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Slavery offer: CCL VVT none Voice or Semi-Voice campaign - The Marketing Source
by Rudolf Faix Thursday, September 3, 2015 9:38 AM

This campaign offer is not a scam, but in summary is it even worse than a SCAM because the client likes even to earn from the call center. But the centers are guilty by themselves, if they are accepting the conditions in the contract. Each business owner need to know what he is doing and he is responsible for his own decision.

The client is Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. located at 2419 E Commercial Blvd Ste 100, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308-4042, website http://www.bahamascruiseregistration.com. By taking a look at the website of the U.S. Better Business Bureau (BBB) then we’ll find about the Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. that there have been during the last 3 years 1,253 complaints closed with the BBB from which have been 335 during the last 12 months. Already this shows which kind of business this company is running and how they are handling their customers. You’ll find at the site a government action too, which you can find in my article “FTC and ten state attorneys general take action against political survey robocallers pitching cruise line vacations to the Bahamas”.

Responsible for this campaign is The Marketing Source, Inc. located in 12551 Indian Rocks Rd. Suite 2, Largo., FL 33774 with owner Vance Vogel. A Robbie Middleton is promoting this campaign and makes the billing for this campaign. I don’t know if the conditions for this campaign got invented from the Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. or from The Marketing Source, Inc. It does not really matter, but these conditions are a simple rip-off for the call centers which are working for them:

  • The center is requited to use their CallAssistant System. The center has to pay $10 per week and per connection. The center is required to have at least 10 agents where each agent needs to handle 2 connections at the same time.
    That does not sound very much, but it is at least $200 per week and the center does not really get something for it. My opinion is that profiteering because the phone system itself has a value of around $500 - $600 and the CallAssistant system can only get used for the CCL campaign. This one which likes that this system has to get used has to pay for it. The call center has no benefit from it.

  • CPD (Cost Per Deal) factor (see the Word document VVT CPD Explanation.docx (17.84 kb))
    The CPD reduces or increases the payout for the successful transfer. Already the name proves the cheat. The client does not have any costs per deal as the center gets billed for usage of their systems and for the VoIP minutes. Whether Caribbean Cruise Lines neither The Marketing Source is able to give an explanation for these costs per deal. With other words they like to make money from the call center.

    The costs per deal are even getting increased (lower payout for the center) for the following conditions:
    • Transferring a call where no customer was on the line
      Each cold called customer will hang up if he needs to wait too long for a transfer. In this case is not the call center which is transferring the call guilty

    • Transferring a call where the customer was not interested
      That depends on the mood of the agent which is picking up the line during the life transfer too and cannot get controlled from the sending center.

    • Transferring a call where the customer did not have a credit or debit card
      If the agent which picks up the line is not friendly or says the wrong words, I'll say that I have no credit cards too even if I have said before that I have one. Such a case can get proved by listening the recordings of the sending center only.

    • Transferring a call where mandatory recordings were not played
      If the CallAssistant system is good instead of quick and dirty programmed, then the transfer would not be possible if the mandatory recordings were not played.

    I have seen by myself that additional to the above rules is the transfer counter working wrong. It are getting 40% more transfers counted as really happened and it are getting calls transferred without any action of the agent. All this failures seems to have the only purpose to minimize the payout of the call center.

  • The center is to required to buy VoIP from them
    Together with the other facts is this behaviour strange, because this one, which pays for it has to be able to chose the provider to buy from. As The Marketing Source Inc. and/or the Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. are showing at the points above that they even try to earn by profiteering from the call centers are even here only end user prices billed and not reseller prices.

By taking a look at the website of Caribbean Cruise Line Inc. (http://www.bahamascruiseregistration.com/) we see that their business model is not a trusted one and in not conform with any fair trading standards. At Google are getting a lot more complaints about the Caribbean Cruise Line Inc. found. I list here only a few. At Cruise Critic we can find that the passengers have to participate at a five hours timeshare presentation. At CBS news you can read how their customer get handled and your lead destroyed at the call center you’ll transfer the customer. Some of their methods are getting described at the Rip-Off Report, Complaints Board and Jim Walker’s Cruise Law News. Even at the customer reviews of the U.S. Better Business Bureau are 75% reporting a negative experience, 66.67% will not recommend and 33.33% are undecided in recommending this company.

You see how the Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. is handling their customers. Think about it how you will get handled from them as their supplier! A result can be looking like the following weekly billings sent out from The Marketing Source – Robbie Middleton:

Screenshot about payments to the call center of Krishna Varma

Everybody which is working with such a company like Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. need not wondering himself if the shit from them is coloring themselves too! A business which has during the last 3 years in average 1.15 complaints to get handled per day from the U.S. Better Business Bureau is fighting for the last cent until a government institution will force them to pay. A serious business will avoid to get listed in such a way at the U.S. Better Business Bureau.

Brokers are getting paid from their client to find call centers doing their campaigns and for this the broker are not asking if the center can make profit or not. Scammers like Omer Ali - Oceanspace Innovative service pvt Ltd are offering this campaign against an up-front fee of 2 Lakhs (INR 200,000 ~ US$ 3,014). You can now calculate yourself that in the case you get the campaign from the scammer and you make some little earnings with this campaign that you'll need years for getting your up-front fees back.

Domain registration data from themarketingsource.com:

Domain Name: THEMARKETINGSOURCE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1502506868_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-06-13T14:33:04Z
Creation Date: 2008-06-26T18:43:43Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-06-26T18:43:43Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Vance Vogel
Registrant Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Registrant Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Registrant City: Largo
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 33774
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.7272167773
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: admin@themarketingsource.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Vance Vogel
Admin Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Admin Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Admin City: Largo
Admin State/Province: Florida
Admin Postal Code: 33774
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.7272167773
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: sales@themarketingsource.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Vance Vogel
Tech Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Tech Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Tech City: Largo
Tech State/Province: Florida
Tech Postal Code: 33774
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.7272167773
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: sales@themarketingsource.com
Name Server: NS8047.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS8048.HOSTGATOR.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-09-01T7:00:00Z <<<

Update September 5, 2015: Vance Vogel from The Marketing Source sent a statement from the FTC under which conditions prerecorded messages are allowed to getting played. This statement can get found in the article "FTC Statement Virtual Voice Technology - CallAssistant, L.C. - submitted by The Marketing Source - Vance Vogel"

Update September 7, 2015: Robbie Middleton from The Marketing Source sent a statement. This statement can get found in the article "The Marketing Source - Robbie Middleton - sent a bad joke instead of a proof"

 

Scammer: Omer Ali - Oceanspace Innovative service pvt Ltd - wants to become self-credible by attacking me and my blog
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, September 2, 2015 4:04 AM

Profile picture of Omer AliOmer Ali wants to become self-credible by attacking me and my blog. He even did not make any proper investigations to know, that I’m already retired and for this I’m not offering any services and products on the Internet. I run this blog only for keep myself a little bit busy not getting bored.

On the other hand he is offering campaigns copied from Internet. So he has copied the campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing, which are available for centers without any fees, but they are not available for brokers. F or his “BIG COPY & PASTE WORK” he is asking for 1 lakh – 2 lakhs (INR 100,000 – 200,000). Offers with up-fronts are proving that the broker has no contract with the client. Brokers are getting paid from this one, which is hiring them and you can be sure that not one client will search for a broker in India. In this case he can search for a call center directly too and save even the broker fee.

Omar Ali is using his real name and is running with his partners Abdul Sami and Abdul Adil the registered company Oceanspace Innovative Service Pvt Ltd in India, but from the past we know that even real companies are scamming others. Omar Ali's LinkedIn profile can get found here and the company details at CompanyWiki.in, QuckCompany.in and ZaubaCorp.com.

It seems that he is not clear in his brain because in his stupidity he has sent the emails to both of my email addresses (gmail.com and wwpa.com). I expected from a scammer a little bit more intelligence than that what Omer Ali is showing us. Maybe the missing intelligence is the reason why his company needs to try it now with scamming others.

The email with his SCAM-offer:

Genuine Voice process available Live transfer
omer ali [omerali.oceanspace@gmail.com]
Gesendet:Dienstag, 1. September 2015 22:12

HI,Live transfer campaign available. Interested please ping me.Brokers excuses us

 

1)UK Pension Survey campaign with hotkey transfer.

 

No Leads, No Dialer no VoIP provided.

Payouts £30.00 per accepted lead that meets criteria from client

Payment terms, weekly by wire only.

Minimum agent 10

Consultancy charges applicable

Only 30 seats left,book it fast

Mail us for further more details

 

2)UK Personal Injury campaign with hotkey transfer.

No Leads, No Dialer no VoIP provided.

Payouts £250.00 per accepted claim that meets criteria from client

Payment terms, weekly by wire only.

Min 10 agents to start.

Consultancy charges applicable

Only 30 seats left,book it fast

Mail us for further more details

 

3)Solar Energy Posting Lead Generation Campaign

No Leads, No Dialer no VoIP provided.

Call Centers offer a free In-Home Survey to Homeowners with power bills +$100.00.

Payouts +-$50.00 per approved hot transfer.

Min 10 agents to start.

 

4)Avatar cruise campaign

Agents no need to speak anything

You can buy all the leads,dailer,avatar software n voip provided by us

We charge 2lakhs for 10 agents

We have reference center all over India

 

 

We are running this campaign more than 2 years

 We have reference centers all over India

We have billing proof

Each campaign for 11 months contract

you will be working with us for 11months

11months contract you have to pay 1 lakh

If you want to extent you have to pay extra 50 thousand for 3 years contract.

 

Regards

Omer ali

Managin Director

Oceanspace Innovative service pvt Ltd

Email :omerali.oceanspace@gmail.com

mobile no:7093000300

 

The email from Omar Ali where he tries to attack me. All the named websites are only there for defaming people. Everybody can post what he likes without any proof. At the most sites are even one time email addresses possible. At least I need not make a Google search for the actual collection from my victims which done this postings in a revenge. Even the accusation that I take money for deleting entries from my blog is an invention because it does not help if I delete an entry. The Internet does not forget something and you’ll find the content if the content does not get copied from other sites too at least in the Google cache and in the Internet archives like Way-Back-Machine. Nobody can offer a deletion of some negative content in the Internet:

beware of rudolf
omer ali [omerali.oceanspace@gmail.com]
Gesendet:Mittwoch, 2. September 2015 00:08

Hi Guys,

Please make a true attention to this email!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a Article we found in the web which is clearly describe about the Complain against Mr. Rudolf Faix who has created a blog as :- http://blog.wwpa.com

He posted several campaigns against several BPO Outsourcing companies. Also he did not make any proper investigation about that company whether that company is really genuine or not, then he start..............................................

Here is the link, and the article in which you have found about some facts what and why he doing exactly and how dangerous player this person???????????????/

Please read this article carefully and requesting to share with your comments and reviews as much as possible.Also if you are a members of his group which is created on the FACEBOOK so please also just post this Article link for general people what RUDOLF DO EXACTLY..................................

http://www.consumercomplaints.in/

https://rudolffaix.wordpress.com/

http://rudolffa.blogspot.in/

http://indianconsumercomplaints.in/article.php?id=28421 (2016-02-25: Link removed - the site is actual down)

http://www.complaintlists.com/rudolf-faix-please-have-a-look-the-complaint-against-rudolf-faix-and-what-he-is-demanding/

http://www.complaintboard.com/30695-complaints-l29502.html

http://wwpa.pissedconsumer.com/rudolf-faix-is-a-big-scammer-be-ware-with-the-person-20150210592965.html

http://www.consumercomplaints.co/

http://www.consumerforums.in/

Note:-Also see the one proof for your reference with attachment which is we collected from the web.

Thanks

The domain registration data of my domain wwpa.com - everybody can verify the data at the homepage of Networksolutions just follow the link at Whois search:

Domain Name: WWPA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 444278_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://networksolutions.com
Updated Date: 2015-05-14T12:40:23Z
Creation Date: 1996-05-13T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-05-14T04:00:00Z
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Registrar IANA ID: 2
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@web.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rudolf Faix
Registrant Organization: Rudolf Faix
Registrant Street: Hofkreuzsiedlung 16
Registrant City: 3452
Registrant State/Province: A
Registrant Postal Code: 3452
Registrant Country: AT
Registrant Phone:
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: rfaix@WWPA.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Faix, Rudolf
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Hofkreuzsiedlung 16
Admin City: Trasdorf
Admin State/Province: NOE
Admin Postal Code: 3452
Admin Country: AT
Admin Phone: +43.720030309
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: rfaix@WWPA.COM
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Faix, Rudolf
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Hofkreuzsiedlung 16
Tech City: Trasdorf
Tech State/Province: NOE
Tech Postal Code: 3452
Tech Country: AT
Tech Phone: +43.720030309
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: rfaix@WWPA.COM
Name Server: NS3.WWPA.EU
Name Server: NS4.WWPA.EU
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 23:06:35 GMT <<<

Update September 11, 2015:

Omar Ali prooves with an email that he is not a business man:

Warning Mail
omar ali [oceanspace.omarali@gmail.com]
Gesendet:Freitag, 11. September 2015 08:10

Rudolf Faix Am warning you again n again you fucking bastard if i see my company name anywhere in the blog or any professional website.I will screw happiness, Stop spreading rumors about my company other wise i will publish about you in such a way in all the online portals that you will not be able to do any business,Are you a jobless,instead of spreading rumor about the companies go & work somewhere at least you will get a wages & concentrate on your families instead of concentrate on the world,stop poking your fucking nose in my fucking business.You get that.

Screenshot of the email:
Screenshot of the threatening email from Omer Ali

With the email shows Omar Ali that he did never get any education. For scamming is it not necessary to have more than a big mouth! His prospective customers can read here already what is awaiting them.

 

Blackmailer: Krishna Varma - Hyderabad - iamkrishnavarma@gmail.com
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:51 AM

Blackmail the hobby that paysKrishna Varma does not know that blackmailing is a crime in each country. It is a pity that he got scammed, but that does not give him the right to become himself a criminal and blackmail others which have nothing to do with his case. He tries even to blackmail people which like to help him. Such a person has never learned something or have visited any school and cannot be a trusted business partner. With other words Krishna Varma did everything wrong what he could do wrong. Instead of asking for help and helping by the investigation he tried to blackmail everybody, which he found. With his try to blackmail others he destroyed every possibility that someone can help him.

If someone enters into a business, which does not bring him the expected profit, then he has the possibility to cancel the contract as soon as he gets it that he does not make any profit or he makes some losses. Blackmailing is not a legal way to correct his own wrong decision.

Krishna Varma from Hyderabad, email: iamkrishnavarma@gmail.com, does not understand how the offshore outsourcing business is functioning. Now he tries to impress with big words, baseless threats and blackmailing legal working companies. He is guilty by himself that he got scammed. He simple did not do his homework by making a background check. The mentioned campaign is for centers free available because the broker gets paid from the client.

That is a pity that he got scammed, but he can only file a case against this one, whom he has paid or he has made a contract and not against someone else. If he has paid any upfront fee then this one, which has taken the money has no contract with the client and would have disappeared already. The campaign itself is available for call centers free of charge and does not require any payments. Brokers and customers from brokers are not getting entertained.

The client will not pay something for that what he is not guilty for the case that he got scammed by the man in the middle method. If Krishna Varma likes to lose more money in such a case, than he can file a court case at the local court of the client. The Supreme Court and the court in India are not responsible for the case he has a contract with an U.S. company. Such a threat shows that Krishna Varma anything from business law. It would be recommended that he consults a good local attorney before he attacks others for his own fails. A cheaper way would be to file a case at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC has for this purpose an Complaint Assistant, which can get found at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/.

It is in the US not illegal to hire offshore call centers for calling US customers. Would it be illegal then he liked to be a partner in crime of an illegal activity. He needs to provide victims and proves that called customers got cheated. That will be very difficult for an outsider.

Everybody, who made wrong investments, is guilty by himself. The business is hard and not a playground. Maybe Krishna Varma thinks that he is still playing in the sandpit. If Krishna Varma has made investments without having a valid contract with the client then he is guilty by himself because he did not prove the promises and trusted to the words of the scammer.

I got forwarded the following email with the comment from Robbie Middleton: “I have never seen this name Krishna Varma.”. As I only try to help by listing the scammers without any financial interest I have tried to get in contact with Krishna Varma and asked him to send me the email headers for finding out the scammers. He sent an answer how he felt betrayed, but he did not send one of the email headers, which makes it possible to find the man in the middle. That a man in the middle is exists is fact because he is not known from the client, but he can work.

Instead of delivering the necessary data he tried to attack me too with a baseless complaint where even not proves can get listed and tried to blackmail me too:

 
What is this What the fuck you are doing from peoples Please i have no time to argue with you ok Kindly  tell To robbie to refund my loss pr else i will make you also in the list By a screen shot of your mail

If someone is listing scammer and scams then you'll find revenges wherever some postings are not getting verified. As I'm not offering something or selling something on the Internet I'm not interested in such a case to take any action against such a posting - it would keep me only busy. If someone does not trust me for such a unproved posting than it his problem and not mine. I have not more and not less if someone belives me or not.

Maybe Krishna Varma has been on drugs or drunk as he has written the following email:

From: Krishna Varma [mailto:iamkrishnavarma@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:08 AM
To: middleton
Subject: Fwd: Final Notice For you all TMS/VVT

 

Hello

TMS/VVT

My self i am Krishna Varma  From Hyderabad Leaving near by Your Head Office of VVT .

I have gathered total 19 companies which have been gone loss because of you all and also for your idiotic commissions and VOIP CPD . So here we are gathered and going to file a complaint on India And on the same way at Your place you i think the location of your Judicial Is http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/ and also at http://www.largo.com/department/division.php?structureid=33 and also on India and also in bangladesh and in india total 4 states were ready to put a case on their places and  I know the main Secrets of your business its an illegal to run an BPO Numbers dailling from India and also cheating USA citizens with your Technology.

The Final Conclussion is You have to pay the loss of mines or else i will be go head with all those companies and we all will send you to prison . with complete documentations and posters are also ready to post on your area walls and also in Web and linked IN with complete proofs and conversations of Robbie Vance Donna Dylan And new Guy VVT dont know his name perfectly . even i posted a complaint on your company but no response even a idiot have been commented too i wont leave any . and listen i invested 5 lakhs for systems and salaries of 4 months even i dint paid any uprent to any one i directly contacted to Robbie by seeing add on BPO Friends. 

No more Discussions if you all want to survive cool with your business you have to pay my loss of 3 Lakh because systems are my own no need for that . or else your company will we seased and you all will be in prison . for this even i will spend more 5 Lakhs to do this all. 

If you want you close this issue cool and calm then credit my amount on my account . 

If you wont reply to this mail you will directly get a call . from were the call comes even you wont think .

i am really frustrated with you all i just done for 4 months i have 5 lakhs loss if i do it for 1 year i have to die . if it comes i will die by writing your names and i will mention because of Robbie and Vance i am going to die . 

So clear this issue as soon as possible by this week or else the posts and posters will be going every were and every websites and linked in too... 

And VVT  this message is for the Indian guy you cant understand this tell him to read this 

Hello mr VVT naku ne peru telusu ne vuru telusu me babu garu cheyse pani telusu mariyadhaga nuvu indhulo nunchi thapuko ledu ante ne medha kuda kalipe vestha case motham 24 companies ready ga unnai case veyatanike aa robbie and vance gadi valla naku ochinna nastam 5 lakhs and VOIP baga yekuvga vesthunadu unlimited voip na dagara monthly 500$ ke chesthunna kotha campaigns anni . kani TMS vadu 1350$ for one month ante yearly 1 crore aaa motham motham baitake lagutha nenu yevaro telusukovali anni undhi kada na peru Krishna Varma . na status and na background chupistha . manchiga job cheskuntuunav and freelance lo manchi rating undhi andhuloni ma vurru dagara nundi ochi HYD lo yedo cheskuntunav  chesko kani VVT nunchi thapuko . na dagara proofs tho ready ga unna thatukoleyv direct ga ralengi vellipothav thamudu . 

naku niku ye kakshalu levu kani TMS ekada Indians ne loss chestunaru musti padesthunadu edheyna mana India meda unna respect aaa. 

Voip kavali ante nene estha okka company Voip Kosam valake nenu pay cheskunta . free ga thiskomanu voip charges lekunda bills veyamanu .

Conclusion For this all issues Pay my loss or else Make profits to the centers from now on wards. change your attitude and Way of your Commissions . 

Krishna Varma needs to understand first that he is guilty for his losses by himself. Nobody is pressured into working on this campaign. There are other campaigns without any up-front fees available too. The demand determines the supply. That means if nobody likes to take a campaign then the payment will rise and if many centers like to get this campaign than the payment will come down.

We can compare this case with the following email:

Hello Good day and How are you?
Firstly, I apologize for sending you this sensitive information via E-mail.
I am Mr. George Culmer from Lloyds banking Group United Kingdom.  I saw your
profile and I want to have a Joint Venture with you. You can view my website
and contact me for more details.
http://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/Our-Group/directors/#
PLEASE REPLY ON THIS Email WITH YOUR MOBILE TEL: georgecul042@gmail.comMr.
George Culmer.
Mobile: +44 708 769 1912

The email looks like someone is searching a business partner, but this is only done at the first view. If we take a look at the email headers then we see the source of the email (I have made the source ip bold):

Return-path: <maria@villegaseditores.com>
Envelope-to: someone@somewhere.com
Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:28:43 -0400
Received: from [66.132.241.237] (port=42078
helo=server.villegaseditores.com)
        by wdc003.hawkhost.com with esmtps
(TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256)
        (Exim 4.85)
        (envelope-from <maria@villegaseditores.com>)
        id 1ZV3mt-000G6N-2Q
        for someone@somewhere; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:28:43 -0400
Received: (qmail 13411 invoked by uid 48); 27 Aug 2015 05:48:04 -0400
Received: from 41.220.68.246 ([41.220.68.246]) by
 webmail.villegaseditores.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015
 05:48:03 -0400
Message-ID: <20150827054803.160813uan4n3913n@webmail.villegaseditores.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:48:03 -0400
From: George Culmer <maria@villegaseditores.com>
Reply-to: georgecull042@gmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
Subject: JOIN VENTURE
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=ISO-8859-1;
 DelSp="Yes";
 format="flowed"
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9)
X-EsetId: 37303A296EDFC361617D62

If we take now a look at the location of the ip 41.220.68.246 we will find out that the email got sent from:

IP Address Country Region City ISP
 
41.220.68.246 Nigeria Lagos Lagos Ip Adddress Assigned To Mtn N Mobile Data Services.

Does anybody think that this location is a trusted source?

Does anyone think that Lloyds Banking Group will refund the losses which you'll make with this scam?

If you are not making any background check in such a case and you'll make business in such a case you'll be guilty by yourself for your losses. If you even don't help any investigation in such a case than you are even stupid and have no chance to get anything back.

 

Scammer: TechSai Solutions - techsaisolutions.webs.com - techsaisolutions@gmail.com
by Rudolf Faix Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:55 AM

TechSai Solutions is hiding their identity on the web completely. They are using the free hosting service from webs.com, a free email address from outlook.com and a reply address to techsaisolutions@gmail.com. They don’t have any contact address at their website. Scammers like to have the possibility to disappear easily.

As TechSai Solutions has not enough money for an own domain is their offer nothing else than scam. Every real company takes the comfort of having a real domain and is using their real address for registering it. 

The offered Form Filling process without any accuracy is a dream. Not one client will give you any work without any quality parameters. Don’t forget that the personal computer is nearly 40 years old and for this you’ll not get any form filling process. Millions of data are getting converted every day. This data are getting converted by using programs with 100% accuracy in seconds and not by manual entering them.  Conversation programs are available for a price of under $100 if they are not already included in the toolset of the database. Why shall in this case a company spend thousands of dollars if they can get it for less than $100 and done it within a few minutes?

This is the scam email only for the purpose to scam for an upfront fee (One-Time Consultancy Fees) - If you have paid the scammer will simple disappear:

From: outlook_afd40a95a2f770d0@outlook.com [mailto:outlook_afd40a95a2f770d0@outlook.com] On Behalf Of TechSai Solutions
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:18 AM
Subject: Data Form Filling Process with Fixed Payout (Without Accuracy)‏‏‏‏‏‏

 

HELLO CENTERS

GREETINGS FOR THE DAY,

 We TechSai Solutions are looking for Call Centers who are interested in working on a Data Form Filling Process which is having a Fixed Payout.

For this process / campaign mentioned , the Client will provide an Online Portal to work on and the Agents need to fill the data which would be provided from the Client end on daily basis and submit the same. The demo form & demo data will be provided to the Center if required. The agents need to achieve a Target of 20 forms / agent / day. 

If we have to estimate, approximately 15 minutes are taken on an average by an agent to fill 1 form; if the Calculation is taken further the agents can approximately Fill 25 – 30 Forms very easily on each day basis.

 

Requirements to be fulfilled by the Centre for Client  

 

Working Hours

As per Indian Hours

 

Maximum working hours- 08 Hours / day

 

 

Working Days

Monday – Friday

 

 

Working Timings

09:00 Am – 05:00 Pm ( Indian Standard Time)

 

 

Target

20 Forms / per agent / per day

 

 

Training

Demo Training provided from Client End.

 

05 Days Training.

 

Training provided would be a Dummy Training.

 

Training period not counted in Billing.

 

 

The process is a Fixed Payout Process. Client would be paying $1100 USD for each employee per month. The Fixed pay would be payable by the Client to the Center until the ongoing Contract is Valid as per the Time Period mentioned.

Also the Contract can be further renewed for following 3 Years, depending on the quality and productivity of the Agents and the renegotiation.

The Client will be providing a Bank Guarantee of $10500 USD from their Respective Bank and would be confirmed payable at any Nationalized Bank. The Bank Guarantee is provided for Security of the Center working on the process.

Where-as the Monthly Payout payment would be carried via Wire Transfer. There would be No Deduction or Hold of any payment.

One-Time Consultancy Fees

Royalty Not Charged


Centers interested in the Process can contact us via E-mail or Skype to discuss regarding the process.

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Regards

TechSai Solutions

 

Website: - www.techsaisolutions.webs.com

Skype: - TechSaiSupport

Everybody is stupid and guilty by himself if he pays anything to them. He will get nothing in return!

 

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Scammer Exposed

Scammer: Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. - G. PRADEEP KUMAR - gtspl.in
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:38 PM

Logo Greevio Techno Solutions PVT LTDThe scammer Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. - G. PRADEEP KUMAR - gtspl.in proves with his offer that he does not have any contract with a client. Everybody knows already what will happen if he gives money to an Indian scammer. The scammer will disappear together with the money and the center will get nothing in return for it. The police and the law system in India will do nothing against the scammer. For this reasons even clients are already rejecting to make any business with any company located in India.

A client will never search for an offshore outsourcing broker abroad. He will contact someone which operating in his country otherwise he could hire a call center direct too. In such a case he would even save the salary for the broker or consultant.

Such stupid campaign offers as from the scammer Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. - G. PRADEEP KUMAR are not making the situation better. This idiot even does not know that the electricity billing is in the traditional outsourcing countries already done since more than 40 years by using computers. It seems that he has been under drugs by inventing this campaign because he has written in the subject of the email UK EB Form Filling Process and inside the email UK, US, Canada Electricity Bill Data transcription process. It seems that the scammer G. Pradeep Kumar has never learned to use his brain and he has never seen a school from inside.

In any case you can be 100% sure that there is no and will never be any Electricity Bill Data transcription process from UK, US, CANADA or Australia available! Like each other scammer G. Pradeep Kumar does not like to provide a manhunt picture by himself.

The email with the offer from Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd.:

From: Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. <gtsolutions@outlook.in>
Date: Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:50 AM
Subject: UK EB Form Filling Process
To: "ashwini.koppisetti@gaiangroup.net" <ashwini.koppisetti@gaiangroup.net>


Dear Ashwin Koppisetti,

 

Greetings,

 

Sorry that I could send you mail immediately, so here are the details as we discussed earlier and I ensure u will receive the same from official email address.

 

Project: NON-VOICE Data Transcription process

Process: UK, US, CANADA Electricity Bill Data transcription process.

Work Type: Excel or Client Providing paid software.

Load: 7000 forms/ Agent/ month

Slots: 5 slots available with fixed 10 Seater/slot. (Slot no.s can be increased in 3-6 months time duration based on centre performance.)

Payout: Rs. 25/- per form

Billing: Every 21st day of the month.

Billing Details: Work load for 15 days will be send to the centre and centre had to finish off the transcription work and need to submit back before end of 16th day for every cycle. The work will be under quality check for 3 days and on 19th day based of quality achieved payment will be raised on 20th day.

Then centre received the second cycle work load on 21st day and then centre can start its work from 22nd day.

Charges:

*No consulting or Royalty Charges.
*Rs. 1, 00, 000/- Refundable Security Deposit Applicable, this will be mentioned in agreement.
*Rs. 75, 000/- Software Charges Applicable.
(Optional)
*Rs. 30, 000/- Center registration Charges Applicable.
(Registration details will be send to your official mail id)

 

Technical Requirements: Basic 2007 OS, Basic System and Broad band.

 

 

Regards

G. PRADEEP KUMAR
DIRECTOR
(HR & Operations)
Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
Reg. Off: Sri Sai Building, Basement, New No 102, Old No 337, 
Arcot Road, Kodambakkam, Chennai – 600024.
Web: www.gtspl.in [2016-02-25: Link removed as the domain already not exists]
 

Skype ID: gtspl2013 & gtsolutions.

Domain registration data of gtspl.in:

Domain Name: GTSPL.IN
Registry Domain ID: D7761487-AFIN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-10-15T04:26:43Z
Creation Date: 2013-10-09T09:43:35Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-10-09T09:43:35Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: CR152425793
Registrant Name: Murali T
Registrant Organization: Greevio Techno Solutions
Registrant Street: Avadi
Registrant City: Chennai
Registrant State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Registrant Postal Code: 600054
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +7.200009940
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Registry Admin ID: CR152425795
Admin Name: Murali T
Admin Organization: Greevio Techno Solutions
Admin Street: Avadi
Admin City: Chennai
Admin State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Admin Postal Code: 600054
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +7.200009940
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Registry Tech ID: CR152425794
Tech Name: Murali T
Tech Organization: Greevio Techno Solutions
Tech Street: Avadi
Tech City: Chennai
Tech State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Tech Postal Code: 600054
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +7.200009940
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Name Server: NS63.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS64.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-26T7:00:00Z <<<

 

Update December 10, 2015: Today I received from Pradeep Kumar the following email to both of my email addresses:

Dear Rudolf Faix,

Really shock seeing to you comments upon the Post in which you have judged and projected me with your unwanted comments and meaningless comments with out even knowing whom we are and what we are and what business we are involved in.

We are not consultants and we do not outsource any Projects, infact we are looking for BPO projects.

I really do not understand that where have you find this posting, i have not mailed any such mail or posting in the month of August or before that or after that. That Project that was mentioned in the post was a failure Project for ours, Apart we have also stop access to the mail id mentioned in the post since June 2015 and also lodged complaint against the same since the mail was hacked by someone in the month of June 2015.

Its really disgusting to see the post in which you have projected me completely wrong without knowing anything about me, my company and my Business, just by an unofficial mail without knowing the truth you posted this blog and spoiling our businesses.

I request you to delete the post that you have posted in the blog so that my name does not get spoiled unwanted among my clients, also i have many inquiries from my client for the past few days. So kindly do not indirectly block my business by posting such posts in blogs without knowing anything about us properly.

Kindly delete the post sooner.

Regards

G. PRADEEP KUMAR
DIRECTOR
Greevio Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
Kodambakkam, Chennai - 600024.
(O): +91-9962-322-322

For the case that they have stopped the email-id in June, how it comes that emails got sent on August 26? For the case they deleted the email then they are guilty by themselves if someone other registered exactly the same email address. As Greevio is using a free service for their email they failed their duties of commercial care for the case someone else opened their email account after deletion or hacked the email account, what does not make them more trustful. Why they did not send out any excuse for the case that the email account got really hacked? The sent emails are normally available in the sent folder.

The email address of the email is matching with the email address in their domain registration. In such a case Greevio has to take care that their accounts are not getting hacked. Simple sending out emails and telling afterwards that the account got hacked is not really the way how such problems can get solved. In such a case they have to make investigations and file a case at the law court. The authorities have the possibility to get the logfiles where the IP address is written from where the account got accessed. With the IP address the "hacker" can get located.

Not one hacker has any interest to send out campaign offers under the name of another company. What will happen if the future customer makes a call instead of mailing back. Such a process is too risky for a hacker, because he has the risk during the money transfer that he can fallen into a trap from the police.

Hackers of the kind like mr. Kumar likes to make us to believe are normally found in his own direct environment of the victim. Such hackers can get easily identified.

Another possibility and plausible explanation would be that someone has faked the offer. Such a person can get found in the direct environment from mr. Kumar too. Such a person is normally an enemy of the victim and each email can get tracked back to the sender by using the logfiles. In any case need mr. Kumar file a case at the authorities in this case and wait for judgement for updating the post with the true story. If he has nothing to hide then he will be interested to find the real guilty one, file a case and forward a copy of the judgement to me for publishing it.

It does not help a victim to delete his domain in such a case. It even does not make any sense to delete a domain 11 months before the expiration date. Domains are normally valid for one year. Someone, which likes to change his domain name, knows this already at the time when he needs to extend his domain subscription, because he does not get from the domain fees any money back.

Domain ID:D7761487-AFIN
Domain Name:GTSPL.IN
Created On:09-Oct-2013 09:43:35 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Nov-2015 08:17:43 UTC
Expiration Date:09-Oct-2016 09:43:35 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R101-AFIN)
Status:PENDING DELETE RESTORABLE
Status:HOLD
Status:REDEMPTIONPERIOD

The registration of the new domain greevio.com has done 3 days before the deletion of the old one. Why Mr. Kumar waited additional 20 days before he has written his complaint? 

Domain Name: GREEVIO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1980995246_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-12-09T13:12:52Z
Creation Date: 2015-11-17T04:00:53Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-11-17T04:00:53Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Pradeep Kumar
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Chennai
Registrant City: Chennai
Registrant State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Registrant Postal Code: 600024
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9962322322
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Pradeep Kumar
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Chennai
Admin City: Chennai
Admin State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Admin Postal Code: 600024
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9962322322
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Pradeep Kumar
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Chennai
Tech City: Chennai
Tech State/Province: Tamil Nadu
Tech Postal Code: 600024
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9962322322
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: gtsolutions@outlook.in
Name Server: NS41.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS42.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-12-09T23:00:00Z <<<

If mr. Kumar is a real business man, which is running a center, then he would know about the consumer data protection law from the traditional outsourcing countries, which is not new - it older than 10 years. Why in this case he is offering "Medical Transcription/ Billing/ Coding", "Data Entry", "Back Office", "Data Conversion Services", "Inbound/ Outbound Customer Support/Care", etc. on his website?

How Greevio can offer a "Mailing Support" if they are not able to keep hackers away from their own accounts?

At his domain registry mr. Kumar is showing that he even does not know the difference between a city and a street. It is nice from the ICANN that everybody can file a complain about it.

Which client will have trust into such a company?

 

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