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Scammer - Manoj Kumar Devisetty - microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com - cognialtechnologies.net
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:35 PM

We know from previous cases that scammer don't have any education, are not trained to use their brain, are too lazy to do some real work and like to get only your hard earned money. The same is it with Manoj Kumar Devisetty and his domains microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com and cognialtechnologies.net.

Let us first take a look at the social network profiles of the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty:

Social Network Profiles of the Scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Facebook (pdf) LinkedIn (pdf)
Manoj Kumar Devisetty Works at Voxant SOFT
Went to Ravindra Bharathi Public School (Left in 2006)
Lives in Hyderabad, India
From Vijawada, India
C.E.O
Hyderabad und Umgebung, Indien | IT und Services
Actual: C.E.O
Before: ask4technology, Microsense Private Limited
Education: ravindhrabarathi school
Manoj Kumar Devisetty

He is using the same free email address manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com from Google. He is using the same email address for his scam offers too (the offer gets found at LinkedIn Pulse too):

From: Manoj Kumar Devisetty <manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:10 PM
Subject: Business propos


Outbound and Inbound Tech support

We are one of the leading tech support outsource and dial for USA and United Kingdom,As we are looking for he center who want to dial from the our company

We are the only center who pay’s the Hourly Basis in Tech support

Minimum centers 5(Five)

Payout:4$(dollars)/Agent/Hr in prorated basis

Most success rate for tech sales website

Vendors/Consultants: Please don't share the website details to the centers until or unless they

For vendors/consultant: www.microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com

For access codes Please contact us Viaemail:manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com

                               Phone:+91 8886799995

               United kingdom telephone:(+44) 7031939650

Our access codes will be changed every day at the time of shift timing starts, Access codes will

provide all the centers before one hour of shift starts.

  1. Dial-er provided by us.

  2. Voip and data center has to bare (or) we will provide the both for paid.

  3. Training via online Go-meeting from United kingdom with a cost of 200$ (or) center can choose

  4. Any miss use of the website center has to pay penalty of under the governance of United kingdom & Indian judiciary, Fine of 15000$ which i will also mentioned in SLA and MOU.

    1. Miss-use of the site like fraud sale fine up to 50$-100$ depends up on sales

    2. sharing of access codes to other center fine applied as rule number 4* strictly enabled

    3. All the center has to start dialing with an given Ip address.

    4. Our technology is well equip-ed for the site prevention/centers.

    5. center has to initiate with us S.O.P (Single Point of Contact).

  5. Inbound calls of 5-10 on a day /*conditions applied(if the center had reached success target of 2

  6. weekly target and monthly target enabled. (*Conditions applied)

  7. Payout cycle 15-20 Working days

  8. Center must have static Ip’s to monitor agents/access call recordings

 

Until now the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty does not know that real technical support is done only by inbound calls. If this inbound calls are getting generated from malware or are based on wrong information given from websites then is it a criminal action which can result in high fines and jail.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty confirms in his email that he does even not know how a phone system (dialer) is working and likes to provide the phone system to the center. If he provides the phone system for the center, then he has to provide the data and VoIP too or he has to provide one phone system seperately for each center. The center have otherwise no control about the usage of their VoIP connection and their own data.

He likes even to sell the training to the centers. Manoj Kumar Devisetty is so stupid that he does not know for whom the centers are working. If he likes to get the work done, then he has to give a training to the centers free of charge!

The way how he likes to get rich quick is shown in the point 4 of his scam offer. There he likes to get dollar fines in the name of United Kingdom and India. That shows that he even did not get any education, because otherwise he would know that the currency in the United Kingdom is the Pound and in India is it the Indian Rupie (INR). Not one country declares fines in a foreign currency.

At the point 4a the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty declares that each fraud sales will get fined between $50 and $100. The only problem is that each sale in technical support is a fraud sale and the complete campain is nothing else than a big fraud or a big scam.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty shows his missing technical knowledge of the Internet in the point 4c. There he likes to provide IP addresses to the centers. If he does not setup a VPN system then he will not be able to provide IP addresses to the centers. Even that the center has to start to dial with a given IP address contradicts the point 1 where he says that the phone system (dialer) gets provided. Dialer are normally building up the phone connection and connect the call to the agents which are in duty.

At point 8 he contradicts himself that the center has to have a static ip address and at point 4c he likes to provide an IP address to the center. Here get it shown that he has no technical understanding and even does not know about what he is writing. It seems to me that the complete offer is nothing else than a copy of phrases from other offers,

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is even using the name and trademark from Microsoft for his scam domain. That is at least misusage of a trademark and can get prosecuted. In his case does it even not help to hide the domain registry data behind a privacy service - he has forgotten that there is a domain registration history services available too:

Domain Name: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1912410038_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Creation Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: NS1.GLOBEHOST.IN
Name Server: NS2.GLOBEHOST.IN
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T9:00:00Z <<<

As scammer are too lazy to use their brain he has also forgotten to change his email address by registering his second scam domain:

Domain Name: COGNIALTECHNOLOGIES.NET
Registry Domain ID: 1904241447_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainshype.com
Registrar URL: www.domainshype.com
Updated Date: 2015-04-22T02:19:44Z
Creation Date: 2015-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar: Domainshype.com, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1660
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Registrant Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Registrant Street: hyderabad............
Registrant City: hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 520012
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9000403922
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Admin Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Admin Street: hyderabad............
Admin City: hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 520012
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +91.9000403922
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Tech Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Tech Street: hyderabad............
Tech City: hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 520012
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +91.9000403922
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Name Server: gns13.hostgator.in
Name Server: gns14.hostgator.in
DNSSEC:Unsigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-complaints@logicboxes.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1 2013775952
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T09:54:07+0000Z<<<

Maybe it is too hard for him to remeber different user names and passwords. In such a case he need to use a little bit of his brain, which seems to be too hard for him.

Anyway he promotes a system called Intelliweb at the website http://cognialtechnologies.net/about with the following words:

Intelliweb is the highest ranked and award winning company for business service in the world.

We use the most intelligent and efficient technologies servicing business.

The contracdiction for the above sentence gets very fast found if we take a look at the Alexa global ranking of the domain cognialtechnologies.net:

Alexa ranking of cognialtechnologies.net

Additional like the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to live in the same house like Barak Obama - the White House - like it is shown at the contact us page of cognialtechnologies.net:

White House - 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest, Washington, DC, 20500

 

Update November 2, 2015:

To show you how the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is working I show you the first message, which he sent to me on July 24, 2015 on LinkedIn. With this message he declares that he has no ideas how offshore centers are working and how to identify scammer. It can also be that he likes to get some information about in which kind of campaigns I would invest:

Hi,

Need a help from you that to start an voice process or non voice process asap I have already tried some consultant people and paid money to them and lost lakhs of rupees... Will you please advice me how can I process further and what type of works to take do you had one let me know

Regards
Manoj

Yesterday, a few hours after he has taken a look at my LinkedIn profile, he has contacted me again. The content of his message shows that he has even not been following the link and has been too lazy to read my full article about his scam:

Hi saw you post that I'm doing scams and earn a lot of money.

1. I'm not taking any money from centers and all
2. I do have a proof that we are paying regular payments and happy customers
3. And this is the not they to use... And it also mention in the site it is the form of cognialtechnogies

I do respect you comment and updates bit I don't know why you kept me like this.... Will you please let me know where the situation arises from your side. So that we can rectify the errors

The facts are:

  • There is nowhere written that he is earning a lot of money. I cannot know how many stupid people have tried to make some business with the scammer and for this reason I cannot know his income from the scam

  • That he does not take some money from the center is a big lie, because in his offer is written that he likes to get $200 for an online training of the center. Maybe in his scammer dreams are $200 no money or only a tip.

  • With his point 2 "I have a proof that we are paying regular payments ..." he confirms that he likes to play man-in-the-middle. How he can have a proof about regular paymenta if he even did not know two months before which kind of campaigns are legit and which are scam?

  • He even has even forgotten that he is the owner of the domain cognialtechnologies.com. He tries to play even here man-in-the-middle. The statement "... it is the form of cognialtechnogies" shows only that he has a bad memory!

  • I think that even he does not recognize already his own lies and is living in a dream world. Another possibility is that some drugs or alcohol have already destroyed his brain and he is not able to think logically

To say that he is not using any scam is not enough. I understand it like this that he is producing scam instead of using an existing one:

That you can ask me directly and I'm not using any scam according this I'll be happy that you are delete the post of that. And that's

Based on the information he provided until now I see not any failure or error in my opinion that Manoj Kumar Devisetty with his sites microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com and cognialtechnologies.net is nothing else than a scammer! So there is no reason to delete or to correct something.

With his next statement the scammer is already thinking that a phone number from an UK VoIP provider is already a company registration:

My company is n UK also you can check in records sir, as we are moving with good reputation and don't spoil that post

Where is the reputation coming from? I did not find any reputation about one of his domains, which are only 7 and 8 months old. It takes years to build up a good reputation. I know he is a super businessman, which has confirmed three months before that he even don't know how to identify scam offers. Is such a businessman able to build up a good reputation within a few days?

This lie about the UK company can get very easily identified. Each company, which is working B2B needs to have in the European Union a VAT ID. The VAT number is not a secret and has to get provided on each bill. Valid VAT numbers can get verified on a central website. For this reason I asked the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to tell me his VAT number, which he could not provide:

I'm Mr. Rudolf in not working wih you and I doest want to show all the details and you can check in Google search

On this statement I tried to explain him the EU tax and billing rules with the words: "Google is not relevant for this purpose. You have just confirmed that you have even no idea from the billing laws inside the European Union. For this you have no company in the UK. You are nothing else than a scammer. VAT ID's of both parties have to get written on each bill! They are not a secret, they are against tax fraud available!!!"

Bull shit..!! I need not to be get fraud from you and I'm not gaining anything from you and mostly you are not even my clinet to show the proofs and all.... I had just informed you that. With having any relevant kind of information how could you put all by its own way. I don't want to share everyone everything to all to prove my self OK. Thanks Mr.Rudolf please to meet you again this is not personal don't take to the heart everything. And you had a Cline that we had fraud and all if yes, let me know

I know that a scammer cannot provide any proves for this I replied this way: "I know you need not fraud because you make the fraud by yourself. Your lies don't help you and the law is not interested in it what you like or not. Here some information and links about VAT-ID's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number"

Mr.Rudolf its own thing to share... if you please dont mine please delete that and i dont want to get a call from all the people.... i had given the basic details about that and more thing i'm not the slave for you to prove the records from all or else leave it

no one intimated that i'm a scammer and non raise a complete on me and took your own decision to make your self Great work

It does not matter or makes any difference if Manoj Kumar Devisetty has already scammed some people or not. He has at least tried to scam somebody. That fact shows the charcter of Manoj Kumar Devisetty and makes him to a scammer instead of a trustful business partner.

I don't know how other people are calling someone which is

  • misusing the name of a trademark
  • thinking that he has his office inside the residence of the U.S. president - the White House
  • registering at least one domain with an incomplete address (street address of cognialtechnologies.com is missing or wrong)
  • offering at least one offshore call center campaign which is nothing else than a big scam (outgoing tech support)
  • and lies as soon as he starts typing or open his mouth

For me are such people only SCAMMER, FRAUDSTER and CRIMINALS!!!

Update December 10, 2015: Today I received the answer from the ICANN on my ticket about the Whois Inaccuracy from the domain cognialtechnologies.net:

Dear Rudolf Faix,

Thank you for submitting a Whois Inaccuracy complaint concerning the domain name cognialtechnologies.net. ICANN has reviewed and closed your complaint because:

- Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name.


ICANN considers this matter now closed. If you have reason to believe that your complaint should not be closed, please forward this e-mail along with any other relevant information to ICANN Contractual Compliance at compliance@icann.org . ICANN will review your submission and, if appropriate, forward it to the registrar to ensure compliance.

Please do not reply to this email (replies to closed complaints are not monitored by ICANN staff).

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Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Manoj Kumar Devisetty (https://www.facebook.com/mdevisetty) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

 

U.S. FTC - The Federal Trade Commission - Illegal Robocalls
by Rudolf Faix Monday, August 31, 2015 7:44 AM

It is difficult for offshore call centers to provide their services by using a legal way. On one side they need to work lucrative on the other side they need to keep themselves on the law and government regulations of the destination country of their calls, what makes their work very difficult.

If you are watching the following video or read the transcript from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan, then you’ll get it that you are not allowed to greet the called one with a recording and if the center likes to sell something – what is in the most cases the reason for the call from an offshore call center – then the client of the center needs to have a written permission of their victims, which should get called.

The first problem with the greeting done by a life person can get easily handled by adjusting the dial system that every time is at least one free agent is available who can take the call immediately and greet the called one.

If the client provides calling data the second problem can get solved too. In respect to the data protection law is the client not allowed to provide more detailed information as can get found in a public phone directory. In any case should keep the center a copy of the data transmission or the email with the access to the data for having a proof. The center shall keep the proofs at least 10 years in evidence.

We can find the following explanations from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan about Robocalls at the homepage of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC):

Few things can be more annoying than answering the phone while you're in the middle of something — and then being greeted by a recording.

If you receive a robocall trying to sell you something (and you haven’t given the caller your written permission), it’s an illegal call. You should hang up. Then, file a complaint with the FTC and the National Do Not Call Registry.

Transcript from the video above:

If you have a telephone, robocalls may be ruining your day. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you answer the phone and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, it's a robocall. If the recording is a sales message and you haven't given your written permission to get calls from the company on the other end, the call is illegal period.

So when you get an illegal robocall, here's what to do. Hang up the phone. Don't press one to speak to a live operator. And don't press any other number to get off the list. If you respond by pressing any number, it will probably just lead to more robocalls.

You might consider contacting your phone provider and asking them to block the number and whether they charge for that service. Remember that telemarketers change caller ID information easily and often. So it might not be worth paying a fee to block a number that will change.

Finally, contact the FTC to report your experience. You can do that online at ftc.gov or by calling 1-877-FTC-HELP. To learn more about illegal robocalls and what the FTC is doing to stop them, visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Another video from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan give some more information:

Transcript of the video above:

If you have a telephone, it probably seems like illegal robo calls are out of control. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you pick up the phone, and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, that's a robocall.

Consumers are getting more and more robo calls, and they are not happy about it. As the number of calls has multiplied, the number of complaints has, too. The reason for the spike in robo calls has to do with technology. Companies are using auto dialers, that can send out thousands of phone calls every minute, for an incredibly low cost.

What's important is that the companies that use this technology don't bother to screen for the numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry. If a company doesn't care about obeying the law, you can be sure they're trying to scam you. You've probably gotten robo calls about candidates running for office, or charities asking for donations. These robo calls are allowed. But any robo call that's trying to sell you something probably is illegal, unless you've given your written permission to get calls from that company.

The FTC has stopped billions, yes billions, of robo calls in the last two years. Tracing these calls is a tough job, and there are a few reasons for that. One, is that many different companies use the same, or very similar, recorded messages. Another, is that they fake the caller ID information that you see on your phone. That's called caller ID spoofing, and new technology makes it very easy to do. And the third, is that the robo callers often place the calls through internet technology, that hides their location.

At the FTC, we're continuing our aggressive enforcement efforts. And we're also looking for innovative, technological solutions to the robo call problem. For more information, please visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Don’t forget that the fines in the U.S. are very high. Everybody who needs to defend himself in front of the law court will think first about himself and will very fast forget his given promises only for the reason that the fine will be a little bit less drastically. Your client will be coming first into the focus of the investigators, because you are selling his products. So your client or broker will in the best case provide the contact details of his partner in crime to the state attorney for getting a better deal for his own judgement. He will even try to make you alone guilty for his own fails. You need to have in this case proofs for your own protection and defense.

 

Scammer: Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal - Ganesh Dhananjay Godse - Bankruptcy ARIMA APP STORE
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, August 19, 2015 3:31 AM

Ganesh Dhananjay GodseThis case shows what happens if people try to build up a business without having enough funds and not any knowledge about business. They are promising and making orders in the hope to earn. The result is a big fail. It seems to be in India usual to simple disappear after failing in business. In any case it is a big crime to escape in this way from the responsibility. Such a behavior results in other countries in a prison sentence.

As much as I understand the anger of the call center owner Amith D'Silva that he lost money by this process as much he is guilty by himself too. They started to sell a product in January, which has not been available at this time. In such a case they tried to sell dreams. At this time the alarm bells have to ring already.

If I read the following LinkedIn Pulse article found at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/beware-arima-app-store-which-fraud-company-amith-d-silva?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_POST, then I get the impression that not one of the participating parties had any knowledge how to build up a business. Even I'm not able to classify them as amateurs. Amateurs have more knowledge about a business than all the participating people including the call center owner. How a call center can promote a product under their own phone numbers and email addresses without any knowledhe how the product is working? How they can handle in such a case complaints from the customers if they are running into failures? The customers are calling this number back from which they got called.

It seems that even the app-store got programmed cheap, quick, dirty and without any knowledge of international standards. Nobody has made any tests of the ready product. An European court would decide in each case to negligent bankruptcy offense and the CEO must be personally liable, since the commercial due diligence has been violated.

The LinkedIn Pulse article shows exactly the fails of both parties:

BEWARE of ARIMA APP STORE which is a Fraud Company

Pritesh Pradeep SaitwalHey Everyone,
I would like to give you a brief about my worst experience with Arima App Store and would recommend each and everyone to read. The Directors Mr. Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal and Ganesh Dhananjay Godse met Prachin Shirsat in the Train through a friend who were seeking a Call Center for their Project so known as Arima App Store around in September 2014. Prachin then introduces them to Mr. Amith D'Silva Proprietor Of Corona Borealis & Crux Services which is a Call Center based in Jesal Park, Bhayandar (East).

Mr. Ganesh Godse & Mr. Pritesh Saitwal from Arima App Store wanted the calling to be on $10 / Sale on which our company had disagreed since it was a new company and they wanted Leads to be generated and closed. We came upon an agreement on which $4 was decided per hour per seat upon which a mail was sent from Mr. Ganesh Godse on January 08, 2015. In the start Mr. Ganesh had promised the payment would be received within Net 7 days from the Invoice raising.

The process then started on January 15, 2015 and the website was first shown on February 18, 2015 upon which the website was very normal that no Software Developer would have put his application or software with a charge of INR 2000.00 for a lifetime. The script which was supposed to be given by Arima App Store where as it was not produced by Arima App Store. We prepared the Script for Arima App Store where no charges were charged to them and training was given from our end where as Information was only given by Mr. Ganesh Godse. Upon receiving complains from the clients who then told the agents working for Arima App Store that the website is not up to date. Please update the website and then give us a call. Complains were sent to Ganesh in Verbal as well as thru mails. Ganesh then informed us to stop the process on February 06, 2015 upon which we were informed that the first web designer has been changed and he is bringing into the picture a new web designer who will make the website up to date and one of the best. We had a meeting with the Web Designer upon which we discussed the pros and cons of the website. The Project was then put on hold. A call was made to Mr. Ganesh Godse on February 08,2015 to release the first payment. He then informed that he will arrange for the funds along with the February 2015 Payment. We never charged him for the days we kept our center closed due to his Website being updated. We helped him since he was new and was seeking support for his company to grow since he showed us decency.

The project then started on February 20, 2015 upon which the Website was satisfactory and the clients were ready to move ahead and invest but this time they wanted a mail explaining about the website and what are the features. We then informed Mr. Ganesh Godse to prepare the mails on which he prepared a mail with just these words as mentioned below

Hi NAME,
Welcome To Arima Apps Store

Username - Name89
Password - 5898#8

Thanks for joining Arima App Store.

Regards
Arima App Store

The clients then were getting irate on the agents who were calling and we also informed Mr. Ganesh Godse who used to come twice or thrice a week to the office that in this manner we cannot get business in this manner for his company. He then informed us that the web designer does not understand how to make the mail and for him he does not know since he is new and does not have a background about Marketing and Sales. He asked if we could help him and we did send him 6 different mail formats. But they were not published the way we had prepared them and the web designer who say they were professionals were engaged in different issues in the website they were facing due to the website for eg. the mobile number when saved in the database used to show us +1 and then the mobile number of India or some awkward numbers. When we asked Ganesh about the payment he said he will make arrangements on March 15, 2015 as he does not have the funds with him and he has put all the money in the website. The dates were then extended to March 22, 2015 then went to March 28, 2015. The reason he said was he had applied for a loan which was not sanctioned. Then Mr. Ganesh Godse from Arima App Stores came to the office on April 08, 2015 and informed us to stop the calling henceforth and he will try to make arrengements of the payments by April 22, 2015 but to be on a safer side he gave us Cheques Dated May 02, 2015. When asked him how he is making arrangements he said he has given a builder some 12 Lakhs as investment upon which the builder is giving him 9 Lakhs. When asked for the papers he said he will bring it and has never shown. He then called me on the April 30, 2015 requesting me that the funds have not been arranged and to inform all agents not to put the cheque. He said he will arrange the funds and has been giving us dates after dates. The final date was July 25, 2015 upon which he said he will transfer the amount by Saturday July 25, 2015 or Monday July 27, 2015. When I called him from my number he does not answer and when I called him from another number at 11am he picked up the phone and informed that he is on his way to transfer the funds. I informed him to answer the phone but neither he answers the phone neither does he call back. Then at 1pm I call him from another number and he answers the call when I ask him about the money he says give me 10mins and thereafter neither he picked up the calls neither reverted to the messages. A payment of nearly 7 Lakhs is pending. Mr. Ganesh Godse from Arima App Store is not trust worthy in dealing with. I am putting his cheques and also lodging a complain and have informed the same to the agents to do so. This is what we get in return for helping a person and supporting him setting up his company. I have Mails, Screenshots which after lodging a complain will pull him to court. I never wanted all this but since he is not reverting back to my messages, Phone Calls, Mails. The only option left is pull Arima App Store and specially Ganesh Godse to court. He will show you the grass in greener on the other side but when he takes you there it just a desert. Luckily no Investors or No Centers have taken his process otherwise they would have repented like how we are doing. Please be careful Of Arima App Store before investing a rupee. They give false commitments. If you want proofs I can submit.

Proofes from the failed project:

1. Mail as on January 08, 2015

From: Arima Store <arimaapps@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:13 PM
Subject: Sales Process
To: amith.dsilva@live.in


Hi Amith,
 
This email is in the reference to our discussion on sales process of Arima Apps Store
 
 

Arima Profile

Arima Apps is a unique place where users can take advantage of a private online hard disk dedicated to storing, publishing, and sharing, material and Personal content for mobile devices -- including pictures, ringtones, wallpapers, logos, as well as the most appropriate applications for each users' mobile phones. & pc Services provided to the registered users which can be adapted and then sent to Cell Phones throughout the World. Arima app store brings you the wide range of Apps and Games to download from. Which are available to download for OS like Android, iOS, Windows. Currently, Arima Apps provides its Users a web-based online hard disk, dedicated to storing, publishing and sharing material and personal content for Cell Phones (ie applications, pictures, games, utilities, logos, ringtones, images and audio executable files). Arima Apps Users may save, share and distribute their personal files over the Web, via Mobile, and to virtually any Cell Phone in the World. Users enjoy the use of a private area to save their material. User content can be kept private or can be made available to the entire Arima Apps community, depending on the wishes of the posting User. Arima Apps provides a Service for storing, publishing, managing and sharing personal mobile content for all Cell Phones – regardless of Cell Phone manufacturer and wireless service provider. Personal mobile content on Arima Apps public area can also be downloaded to any PC and mobile device.

Opportunity for Call Center

The Distribution of Wealth Across iOS and Android Apps, July 31, 2012

The iTunes App Store and Google Play now offer more than 600,000 apps each.  And Apple’s most recent earnings call revealed that the company has paid out more than $5.5 billion to developers since the launch of the App Store.

Let’s start with market growth. Likewise, premium and in-app purchase revenue is increasing at a rate of 50%,from $4.5 billion in 2011 to $6.7 billion in 2012

 

Depending on what source you use there are anywhere from 5 to 6 billion mobile subscribers worldwide. Many of these subscribers are using apps every day. This is the perfect time to start your very own marketing business in apps and apps store. We are bringing this Opportunity for call centers.

 

1. We are outsourcing $4 per hr/seat

2. Minimum require area 500 square feet commercial

3. Seating arrangement minimum 07

4. Contract of 11 months

5. Daily Target of 5 sales per agent

 

Role of Call Center

 

Distribute Apps | Android Developers

 Apps on Arima Store

The most amazing platform in the world for uploading Android/IOS/Windows apps. Cloud-connected and always synced, it's never been easier for users to find and download apps...

It’s quick and easy to register and begin distributing apps on Arima Store.

 

Before you begin

There is a onetime $34 registration fee charged for Arima Store Developer Console account. We charge this fee to encourage higher quality products on Arima Store (ie. less products with SPAM).

Developer must be located in a supported country to distribute apps on Arima Store. There are additional requirements to sell apps on Arima Store.

 

Registering as a Developer

Log in to the Arima account that will act as the Account Owner for your Developer Account.

Visit the Developer Console signup page to begin registration.
During registration, must accept Developer Distribution Agreement to continue. If account has previously been in violation of this agreement, you cannot register as Arima store Developer.

Pay the registration fee using a valid payment method.

Fill out account details, including your Developer Name. This is the name that is displayed on the Arima apps Store.

Please note that it may take up to 48 hours for your Arima Store Developer Console registration to be fully processed

 

Thanks
Arima Team
 
2. Process Was Kept On Hold from February 08,2015 Till February 20, 2015 
Reason : The Website was not up to date and was not looking professional. When we were calling the clients they just saw the website and said they were not interested. Even the mails which was sent to the clients were as follows
 
Hi NAME,
                 Welcome To Arima Apps Store
 
Username - Name89
Password - 5898#8
 
Thanks for joining Arima App Store.
 
Regards
Arima App Store
 
Mr. Ganesh Godse (Arima App Store) informed us that he has changed the Web Developer and given the Web Designing work to a company called Aabit Soft and the web designer also came to our office to make an inquiry as too what the clients were saying to make the website perfect. Hence the process was closed till February 21, 2015. When we asked about the payment he said he was short on cash and hence invested all his money in the website work. He informed us he would give January and February Billing together by the 15th Of March 2015.
 
3. Process Started on February 21, 2015
 
4. Whatsapp Proof from 20th February 2015 (Part is in English and part is in Hindi).
 
20/02/15 9:39:03 am: Ganesh Godse: www.chupamobile.com
 
21/02/15 9:59:47 am: Ganesh Godse: aane ke liye der hogi muze.. ek meeting hai wo khtam karake aaunga 2 baje tak
 
21/02/15 9:59:51 am: Ganesh Godse: sorry
 
03/03/15 10:06:05 am: Ganesh Godse: Not able to come today because of illness
 
05/03/15 10:08:39 am: Ganesh Godse: Not able to today becouse of some meeting with investers in pune.. call center panel and mail things wil take time to done it wil be done on saturday night..
 
05/03/15 11:00:11 am: Ganesh Godse: Mail ka jaam 3 baje tak ho jayega
 
07/03/15 3:00:19 pm: Ganesh Godse: Yes we can send the mail now .. I wil cl in hr send mails at night
 
07/03/15 3:00:31 pm: Ganesh Godse: And also I wil send data
 
09/03/15 11:11:15 am: Ganesh Godse: Amith sir payment ka nahi ho pa raha hai arragement.. aap is month me arrange kar lo agale mahine ke 26-27 tak ho jayega humari taraf se
 
14/03/15 11:40:21 am: Ganesh Godse: W m will be late .. wil come at 5 pm
 
19/03/15 9:28:49 am: Ganesh Godse: Will come at 4 pm
 
25/03/15 5:42:28 pm: Ganesh Godse: Devloper no-8898517323
 
30/03/15 10:12:00 am: Amith D'Silva: Surendra - +91-7208-0158-70
Reema - +91-7208-0158-74
Bharti - +91-7208-0158-77
 
30/03/15 10:13:37 am: Amith D'Silva: Call our Customer Service on +91-7208-0158-70/78
 
07/04/15 10:28:40 am: Amith D'Silva: Please give me some good news abt the cash
 
07/04/15 4:50:08 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kabhi tak aa rahe ho
 
07/04/15 4:51:32 pm: Amith D'Silva: They are asking me abt the money continuously and secondly abt the mails
 
07/04/15 5:22:33 pm: Ganesh Godse: Aaj nahi ho paraha ammount ka sir mai kuch solution nikal ke aap ko cl karata hu thodi der me
 
07/04/15 5:24:18 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kitna ho paa raha hai
 
07/04/15 5:24:38 pm: Amith D'Silva: 50k ho sakta hai
 
07/04/15 5:24:54 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unko Feb ka dekhe shaant kara du
 
07/04/15 5:25:12 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unke ghar se bahut problem ho raha hai
 
07/04/15 5:25:34 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unlog ne mere kehne pe 7 tarik bola tha ghar waalo ko
 
07/04/15 9:16:42 pm: Ganesh Godse: I have sent you mail please check out
 
07/04/15 10:07:19 pm: Amith D'Silva: Where r u.
 
07/04/15 10:07:34 pm: Amith D'Silva: I am waiting for u in the office
 
07/04/15 10:23:10 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aa rahe ho ki nahi... Ye tou batao.
 
07/04/15 10:23:33 pm: Amith D'Silva: I have called the people for the cash
 
07/04/15 10:23:43 pm: Amith D'Silva: It is better if u talk
 
10/04/15 3:10:23 pm: Ganesh Godse: 2bdf4d94ab963da747de6139c2012393.jpg <attached>
 
10/04/15 3:10:46 pm: Ganesh Godse: 14fdf20a8e0097dc8959d5a5e0b390bc.jpg <attached>
 
10/04/15 3:11:34 pm: Ganesh Godse: 70de010a77c9bfcff218d1017608c69c.jpg <attached>
 
10/04/15 3:11:55 pm: Amith D'Silva: Picture blurr hai
 
10/04/15 3:12:05 pm: Amith D'Silva: Nazar nahi aa raha hai properly
 
10/04/15 3:12:29 pm: Ganesh Godse: Clear nahi aa rahi mai mail karata hu
 
10/04/15 3:12:35 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ok
 
10/04/15 3:12:56 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aap ki taraf se kuch hua payment ka
 
10/04/15 3:13:07 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kitna tak aap kar sakte ho
 
10/04/15 3:13:38 pm: Ganesh Godse: Abhi muze be jarurat hai 20000 ka
 
10/04/15 3:13:50 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kyuki agents ke ghar pe bahut problem ho rahi hai
 
10/04/15 3:14:00 pm: Ganesh Godse: Mera to loan ka aayega tabhi hoga
 
10/04/15 3:14:39 pm: Amith D'Silva: Woh tou problem hai ab waqt nahi hai
 
10/04/15 3:27:14 pm: Amith D'Silva: Mail bhej diya
 
10/04/15 9:53:02 pm: Ganesh Godse: Car ka nahi ho payega Amitsir
 
11/04/15 9:43:10 am: Amith D'Silva: Kitne baaje tak a rahe ho
 
11/04/15 9:43:23 am: Ganesh Godse: 11.30
 
11/04/15 9:44:10 am: Amith D'Silva: 10000 tak cash ho paayenga aap se
 
11/04/15 9:45:27 am: Ganesh Godse: Nahi ho payega sir
 
11/04/15 9:45:56 am: Amith D'Silva: Chaalo thik hai
 
11/04/15 9:46:46 am: Ganesh Godse: Mai chek leke aata hu 2 tarikh ka unko bol do sir
 
11/04/15 9:47:24 am: Amith D'Silva: Woh tou aapke saamne baat karta hu
 
12/04/15 11:03:26 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua phone kiya tha
 
12/04/15 11:03:48 pm: Amith D'Silva: Maine 2 baar phone kiya tha aapne jawab nahi diya
 
02/05/15 7:52:54 am: Ganesh Godse: Cl me
 
02/05/15 7:53:00 am: Ganesh Godse: Kal kaam nahi hua
 
02/05/15 7:53:53 am: Ganesh Godse: Jaldi hone ke kuch chances bhi nahi hai aur 2-3din idhar rehake dekhata hu kya hota hai
 
02/05/15 9:53:51 am: Ganesh Godse: Please inform to employees do not deposit heir cheques in bank
 
02/05/15 10:03:39 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji sab ko paise ki zaroorat hai. Reema ko chennai jaana hai 5 tarik ko. Vo paisa maang rahi thi. Mujhe bhi pressure aa raha hai. Aap 2 ya 3 fin mat karo yaha pe 1.5 months ho gaya hai. Dusri taraf project mil raha hai par le nahi sakta kyuki rolling ke liye paise nahi hai
 
02/05/15 10:03:55 am: Amith D'Silva: Center chalo karoo tou kaise
 
02/05/15 10:04:56 am: Amith D'Silva: Sab bills chukta karoonga tou hi center chaloo kar sakta hu
 
02/05/15 2:19:31 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji Reema ka daddy nahi sunn rahe hai woh bol rahe hai woh cheque daalne jaa raha hai aur bounce ho gay woh office ke yaha pe aake tamasha kar denga
 
02/05/15 2:20:11 pm: Amith D'Silva: Mein nahi jaanta aap kuch karo kyuki har jagah mera naam kharab ho raha hai
 
02/05/15 2:20:58 pm: Amith D'Silva: Unki baat bhi sahi thi kitne mahine se paisa atak gaya hai
 
02/05/15 2:22:57 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ab kuch jyaada pressure aa raha hai
 
03/05/15 12:39:35 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kisi bhi halat mein mujhe kal tak paisa karke de dou ek tou reema ke dad ke saath mera muh ki boli ho gayi aur woh aa rahe hai office mein hungama karne. Mein kyu apna company ka ya area mein apna naam kharaab karoo
 
07/05/15 8:04:54 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir mai abhi bhi pune me hu .. aap jab free ho cl karana
 
07/05/15 8:04:54 am: Ganesh Godse: I Want to talk to you
 
08/05/15 2:15:47 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua kal call kiya tha par aap meeting mein busy teh
 
08/05/15 2:16:09 pm: Amith D'Silva: Phone karke information tou de dou
 
08/05/15 2:16:21 pm: Amith D'Silva: Idhar har din tension badh raha hai
 
08/05/15 2:16:53 pm: Amith D'Silva: Aaj aapko phone kiya toh mobile switch kar diya aapne
 
08/05/15 2:17:18 pm: Amith D'Silva: Please call karo mujhe
 
08/05/15 2:42:42 pm: Ganesh Godse: Baat chal rahi hai abhi tak final nahi hua jaise he hota hai mai bata dunga
 
08/05/15 2:44:32 pm: Amith D'Silva: Kal aaye teh meter leke jaane ke liye Reliance waale aur bole ki bill nahi bara tou ek saath connection kat denge aur reconnection ke liye Santacruz jaana padenga
 
08/05/15 2:44:44 pm: Amith D'Silva: Problems bahut badh gayi hai
 
12/05/15 6:53:28 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir amount kuch ho nahi pa raha hai.. july me wo amount aayega to de dunga
 
12/05/15 10:40:28 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap problem nahi samaj rahe ho meri... Aap phone bhi nahi utha rahe ho naa phone kar rahe ho...
 
12/05/15 10:44:05 am: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji phone tou uthao
 
12/05/15 10:44:25 am: Amith D'Silva: Aisa nahi uthane se problem solve ho jaayenga lagta hai
 
12/05/15 10:44:41 am: Amith D'Silva: July tak nein intezaar bahi kar sakta
 
12/05/15 10:45:05 am: Amith D'Silva: I cannot wait till july
 
12/05/15 10:46:17 am: Amith D'Silva: Please keep your car an take the money or sell your property or lease it. Do anything now this is the height please understand. We are facing problems after problems
 
12/05/15 10:47:24 am: Amith D'Silva: For u it is easy to give dates  after dates yeah everything is coming on the head
 
12/05/15 2:38:37 pm: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji i have spoken to my friend and he explained to me on the builder's part as too what we can do too procure the loan. So call me  once u r free so i can explain.
 
12/05/15 11:04:55 pm: Amith D'Silva: When r u planning on meeting me
 
13/05/15 7:14:50 am: Ganesh Godse: Amit sir mera builder se baat nahi ho paya kal mai apana phone bhul gaya tha hotel me
 
13/05/15 7:15:11 am: Ganesh Godse: Mai aaj baat karake cl karata hu
 
13/05/15 10:17:50 am: Amith D'Silva: Ok. But before u speak to the builder call me cause i need to tell u wht the person told me
 
18/05/15 9:22:33 pm: Ganesh Godse: Wil cl u tomorrow evening
 
18/05/15 9:22:34 pm: Ganesh Godse: Wil cl u tomorrow evening
 
I had sent the above mentioned  chat of whatsapp to my Email as Back Up.
 
I do not have the chat from 18th May 2015 Till 05th July 2015 Cause my phone crashed.
 
5. Whatsapp Proof from 05th July 2015 (Part is in English and part is in Hindi).
 
05/07/15 19:49:23: Amith D'Silva: What is happening of the cash
 
05/07/15 19:49:39: Amith D'Silva: Y r u not answering the call
 
06/07/15 04:49:46: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap answer mat dou ab. Mujhse galti ho gayi ki maine aapko waqt bahut diya mujhe mera paise chukane ke liye
 
06/07/15 05:04:13: Amith D'Silva: I have tried calling u several times but of no use cause u never answer and u don't have the courtesy of even calling or even sending me a message. Not even me the people who have worked hard even when they all you. You never answer. As per your words you were suppose to give me a certain amount today the 6th of July 2015. But since u r neither answering the phone and neither calling back I assume you are not planning on giving me the amount. I am putting the cheque given by you on the 07th of July 2015. If it bounces I am putting a complain along with the documentation that is your pan card copy, ration card copy etc. along with the recordings and screenshots and mail copies. I will register a complain with the cops as well as put in the newspaper. I have waited and given you enough time but I am sorry to tell I did a mistake. So now it is high time to take an action against you. This is for your information. Thanks
 
06/07/15 05:06:48: Amith D'Silva: Please don't call me cause i am not interested in your jazz which you have been giving me from the past so many months. I have waited enough and even the poor people working for you have waited enough.
 
06/07/15 07:05:26: Ganesh Godse: Sir payment ka arrangement nahi hua 25 ko milega definitely.
 
06/07/15 07:10:46: Ganesh Godse: 25 ko mera payment aaye ga dusare ke bharose thoda problem hota hai aap to samaz sakate ho..
 
06/07/15 07:15:05: Ganesh Godse: Itana wait kiya hai aapane 25 tak wait karo please
 
06/07/15 07:15:41: Ganesh Godse: 100% ho jayega 25th ko
 
06/07/15 07:16:41: Ganesh Godse: Aapaka Phone uthake na bol nahi paa raha tha isaliye nahi uthaya.
 
06/07/15 07:17:15: Ganesh Godse: 25% nahi hua to jo aap chahe kar lijiye bas 25 tak time dijiye
 
06/07/15 07:17:47: Ganesh Godse: Sure ho jayega
 
16/07/15 18:20:58: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kya ho raha hai phir se phone nahi utha rahe ho
 
16/07/15 18:21:54: Amith D'Silva: Abhi kya progress hai
 
16/07/15 18:23:01: Amith D'Silva: Please situation already out of control jaa chuka hai
 
16/07/15 18:24:57: Amith D'Silva: Need atleast 3 lakhs now on the 25th
 
16/07/15 18:25:13: Amith D'Silva: With 2 Lakhs nothing is going to happen
 
16/07/15 18:26:59: Amith D'Silva: The interest will also be levied on the total billing cause I have to also pay Interest.
 
16/07/15 18:32:41: Amith D'Silva: I will be putting the cheque as per 3 Lakhs - Bharti's Cheque - Reema's Cheque - Surendra's Cheque. Please also make arrangements of the remaining amount at the earliest. I will be putting the cheque on the 26th of July 2015. Please make a note and keep sufficient balance. I will not wait for another day also. 25th of July 2015 is d the last. You also know how much I have waited. It is a long time now.
 
16/07/15 18:33:02: Amith D'Silva: I am waiting for ur call
 
16/07/15 18:35:00: Ganesh Godse: Cl me
 
16/07/15 19:05:31: Amith D'Silva: Call kar raha hu tou utha nahi rahe ho
 
18/07/15 21:37:37: Amith D'Silva: Kya ho raha hai Ganeshji... Mujhe phone karo urgent hai...
 
19/07/15 00:02:09: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji aap phone pe baat nahi kar sakte tou message pe baat karo
 
19/07/15 00:02:37: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe batao 25 tarik ko kya amount de rahe ho
 
19/07/15 11:09:16: Amith D'Silva: Chalo thik hai matlab aapke taraf se koi jawab nahi aa raha hai
 
19/07/15 11:09:24: Amith D'Silva: Itne din se phone kar raha hu
 
19/07/15 11:09:31: Amith D'Silva: Messages bhej raha hu
 
19/07/15 11:09:44: Amith D'Silva: But there is no reply from your end
 
19/07/15 11:11:15: Amith D'Silva: I will not call you and disturb you that too for my money. I am tired of all the requesting part. Now I will put your cheque on Monday. Thanks.
 
19/07/15 11:13:25: Amith D'Silva: U r not understanding the problems I am facing. So be it.
 
19/07/15 11:38:44: Amith D'Silva: Kya hua Ganeshji
 
19/07/15 11:38:55: Amith D'Silva: Online ho par answer nahi de rahe ho
 
19/07/15 11:39:26: Ganesh Godse: Abhi tak payment hath me nahi hai to kya batau aapako
 
19/07/15 11:39:48: Ganesh Godse: 25 ko banda deta hu bola hai
 
19/07/15 11:40:00: Amith D'Silva: Idhar Interest pe maine paise uthaya hai.
 
19/07/15 11:40:11: Ganesh Godse: Jaise haath me aata hai cl kar dunga
 
19/07/15 11:40:16: Amith D'Silva: Matlab confirm nahi hai naa
 
19/07/15 11:40:30: Amith D'Silva: Call uthaya karo
 
19/07/15 11:40:42: Amith D'Silva: Phone saamne se kar nahi rahe ho
 
19/07/15 11:41:21: Amith D'Silva: Aaj tak maine hi phone kiya hai aapko
 
19/07/15 11:41:54: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe bhi malum hai 25 ko aapko paise milne waale hai
 
19/07/15 11:42:02: Amith D'Silva: Lekin baat tou karo
 
19/07/15 11:42:05: Ganesh Godse: Muze sabake cheque ke photo nikal ke bhejne bolo whatsapp pe
 
19/07/15 11:42:30: Ganesh Godse: Employees ke
 
19/07/15 11:43:04: Ganesh Godse: Kal tak bheja to bhi chalega
 
19/07/15 11:43:39: Amith D'Silva: Mein abhi kuch baat nahi karunga
 
19/07/15 11:44:01: Amith D'Silva: Woh sab ko salary chaiye
 
19/07/15 11:44:11: Ganesh Godse: Kisase? Employees se?
 
19/07/15 11:44:19: Amith D'Silva: Paise aane ke baad baat karunga
 
19/07/15 12:05:23: Amith D'Silva: a03b3b643ac621d502aac049623bd010.jpg <attached>
 
21/07/15 14:08:37: Amith D'Silva: Hi
 
21/07/15 14:08:47: Amith D'Silva: Did u speak to the builder
 
21/07/15 14:08:51: Amith D'Silva: Any news
 
21/07/15 14:09:05: Amith D'Silva: About the Cash
 
21/07/15 14:15:49: Amith D'Silva: Please do give me an update
 
22/07/15 08:29:04: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji 25th ka kya ho raha hai.. Baat hua builder se.
 
22/07/15 10:10:39: Ganesh Godse: Baat nahi hua abhi tak .. but send me ur account details. Mai Saturday ko ya Monday ko payment transfer kar dunga
 
22/07/15 14:08:36: Amith D'Silva: Ok. Here the light has gone once it comes will surely send you the account details. Thanks for releasing the pressure of my head.
 
23/07/15 17:30:08: Amith D'Silva: Bank Details 
Payee Name : Corona Borealis
Bank Account Number : 1062000100174301
Bank Name : Karnataka Bank
Branch : Bhayandar
City : Mumbai
MICR Code : 400052010
IFSC Code : KARB0000106
Branch Code : 000106
Address : Shop No. 12, Ostwal Ornate, Jesal Park, Bhayandar (E.) Thane - 401105
Swift Code : KARBINBBOSB
 
23/07/15 19:32:45: Ganesh Godse: Current hai ya saving?
 
23/07/15 19:33:50: Amith D'Silva: It is a Current A/c
 
24/07/15 15:46:04: Amith D'Silva: Please send me the address on which Arima App Store is registered
 
24/07/15 15:46:15: Amith D'Silva: For the Invoice Billing
 
24/07/15 20:37:43: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji kya hua
 
25/07/15 08:14:48: Amith D'Silva: Please give me an update
 
25/07/15 08:18:07: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji mujhe please batao ki kya ho raha hai. Kal se phone naa kar rahe ho naa uthao rahe ho. Kyu ghuma rahe ho.
 
25/07/15 08:32:12: Ganesh Godse: Mai bahar tha raat mai jaise somwar ko paise mil jayenge to aap ko send kar dunga
 
25/07/15 08:44:55: Amith D'Silva: Phone ko answer karo
 
25/07/15 08:45:21: Amith D'Silva: Maine aapko Agreement ka mail bheja hai
 
25/07/15 08:45:33: Amith D'Silva: Aaj mein sab Invoices bhejta hu
 
25/07/15 13:49:07: Amith D'Silva: Monday ki confirm kar dena please. Please Tuesday mat karo and secondly mujhe receipt bhej dou Transfer ka. So i can follow up withe the bank
 
25/07/15 13:49:35: Amith D'Silva: Monday Ko Confirm kar dena.
 
25/07/15 13:53:02: Amith D'Silva: If not on Tuesday we are putting the cheques. We cannot wait anymore. We are facing problems after problems. It is high tome you realise what we are going through. Each day is tough to remove.
 
25/07/15 13:53:13: Amith D'Silva: Please understand the problem
 
25/07/15 18:46:43: Amith D'Silva: Please check the mail sent by you on Jan 08 2015 at 12:13pm with the subject Sales Process sent by you where you have clearly mentioned $4/ Hr
 
26/07/15 23:52:09: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji please do it tomorrow
 
26/07/15 23:52:27: Amith D'Silva: Did u receive the cash
 
27/07/15 08:42:28: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji naa aap mera messages ka answer de rahe ho naa aap mera mails ka answer de rahe ho na aap phone ka answer de rahe ho
 
27/07/15 08:45:40: Amith D'Silva: That means you are playing around so now It is better for me to go ahead and put your cheques and lodge a complain on you and your company along with all your mails, documentation, messages. Cause u r just playing around. If you were genuine u would have answered the calls, messages and mails.
 
27/07/15 08:46:50: Amith D'Silva: I cannot wait anymore.
 
27/07/15 08:47:42: Amith D'Silva: I am tired of all the requesting. This is what we get for supporting you for 7 months.
 
27/07/15 08:51:55: Amith D'Silva: You were saying 25th of July 2015 ka date final hai. We waited. Ab kya 27th of July 2015 hai aaj ab tak nahi aaya cash. Kya vishwas rakho aapke upar. Aap mujhe bataye. Upar se aapne process kisi aur ko outsource kiya hai. Bewakoof samajte ho kya aap mujhe. Call Center Industry hai. Aaj forums mein aapka aur aapke Company ka naam dalunga sab proofs ke saath. Pareshan kar diya hai aapne. Ab sehan ke bahar ho gaya hai.
 
27/07/15 08:53:26: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe aapse koi lena dena nahi hai. Mera bill clear karo aur aap apne raaste aur mein aapne raaste. Aap mujhe majboor kar rahe ho yeh sab karne ke liye.
 
27/07/15 08:55:15: Amith D'Silva: Mujhe yeh message ka answer mat dou nahi tarik. 25th July 2015 aapka wada tha. 
 
27th July 2015 aapne waqt maanga woh aaj hai. Let's see.
 
27/07/15 08:59:19: Amith D'Silva: I told you several times please answer the phone even if you do not have the money. For what are you ashamed off not talking over the phone. I helped you put with the script, mails. This is what i get in return. This is the reason i never gave u a investor. Jab aap mera paisa de nahi paa rahe ho Investor ka kaha se chuka paonge. I will put this in the papers as well. Where you and your company's name is in jeopardy and you can believe that. Thanks
 
27/07/15 09:56:29: Amith D'Silva: Today is the final day please don't ask for tomorrow cause i cannot give you another day any more. I am facing problems because of you. Please understand my problem. It is the height now. After giving you time you do not full fill your promise.27/07/15 10:03:04: Amith D'Silva: FYI I will be putting all mails, Screenshots of Arima App Store, your Pan Card Copy with the Pan Number AOZPG4501R, election Card No. RMV1409549, Pritesh's Documents, Messages & Cheque Copies after they bounce.
 
27/07/15 10:10:08: Amith D'Silva: I helped you with your mails on Arima App Store, The Script of Arima Store and by giving you enough time for the payment. 7 months is a big time. How much longer can I also wait. I have to pay people as well. Why can't you understand my problem. I like to do business in a proper manner to build a long term relationship. I do not have anything against you or your company. I just want my hard work to be paid for.
 
27/07/15 10:13:25: Amith D'Silva: Even I never charged you for the days you kept the center closed. Ask any center the money is charged when the process is on hold. Now I feel I need to charge you for the Script, Mails and Days that you have told to hold the process Where my billing was on. Who will give so many benefits and what do I get in return no reply from your end and no reply on my payments.
 
27/07/15 10:21:41: Amith D'Silva: After I put all of this in the newspaper you only think No Investor will Invest in Arima App Store or you anymore. No Call Center will run your process. Problems aapko hoga mujhe nahi. Aapko joke lagta hai to thik hai lekin aaj ka last day hai kal mein cheque dal raha hu. And once the cheque bounces i will start all the other procedures. This is for your information.
 
27/07/15 11:14:17: Amith D'Silva: As per telephonic talks please send me the receipt of NEFT and  RTGS. Please do it by today an please answer my call.
 
27/07/15 12:01:01: Amith D'Silva: Has the transfer been done. What's happening
 
27/07/15 12:04:31: Amith D'Silva: I m calling and you are not answering the phone again. Drop a message.
 
27/07/15 12:19:08: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji please let me know only one thing is the transfer happening or not. Yes or No. I will not disturb you. I will continue with my procedure thereafter. Giving you time till 1 cause there after the banks are closed.
 
27/07/15 13:34:56: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji mere ghar pe aaye hai ladka cheque lene ke liye jisse maine paise liya tha.
 
27/07/15 13:36:58: Amith D'Silva: Call 10 minute mein karta hu bolte ho aur call karne pe kaat rahe ho. Dusre ka phone utha rahe ho mera number dekhte hi nahi utha rahe ho.
 
27/07/15 13:37:15: Amith D'Silva: Messages padh ke anjaan ban rahe ho
 
27/07/15 14:39:09: Amith D'Silva: I am putting the Cheque of the full amount tomorrow in d morning and have informed the same to the agents thereafter once your cheque bounces will lodge a complain against you and your Company Arima App Store with all the written proofs. Along with the FIR Copy will put it in the papers.
 
27/07/15 19:11:18: Amith D'Silva: I have tried reaching you several times and you do not have the courtesy of calling or neither answering the phone. You think this is all a joke. But you do not know what We are going through.
 
27/07/15 20:19:12: Amith D'Silva: Ganeshji i don't think u r even bothered about your Company Arima App Store otherwise you would have paid the part payment today as promised by you and as you said in your message that after the 
27th of July 2015 to go ahead in lodging a complaint. I am doing the same. So tomorrow We are putting the cheques and if it bounces will drag you to court. Now no need of your messages and calls cause we have given you ample time to full fill your commitment.
 
27/07/15 20:20:00: Amith D'Silva: Where you have played a fool with our trust.
 
28/07/15 11:53:53: Amith D'Silva: I have made the post and will post it on Linked In, Facebook, Twitter and everywhere informing of the Fraud you have done. I do not like doing this but since you are not giving my money. I have to do this and make sure no 1 else falls trap to you or Arima App Store.
 
There are more verbal talks and now Ganesh Godse - +91-9833-168-987 has ran away to Dhanakwadi, Pune, Maharashtra, India. 

Domain registration data from arimaapps.com:

Domain Name: ARIMAAPPS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1879088742_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-10-06T11:05:38Z
Creation Date: 2014-10-06T11:05:38Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-10-06T11:05:38Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Ganesh Patil
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Pune
Registrant Street: Pune
Registrant City: mumbai
Registrant State/Province: Maharashtra
Registrant Postal Code: 222222
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9422881066
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: arima@nxglabs.in
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Ganesh Patil
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Admin Street: Pune
Admin Street: Pune
Admin City: mumbai
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Admin Postal Code: 222222
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.8898517323
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: dharambir.aabitsoft@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Ganesh Patil
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Pune
Tech Street: Pune
Tech City: mumbai
Tech State/Province: Maharashtra
Tech Postal Code: 222222
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9422881066
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: arima@nxglabs.in
Name Server: NS1.ARIMAAPPS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ARIMAAPPS.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-07-29T2:00:00Z <<<

Ganesh Dhananjay Godse:

Ganesh Dhananjay Godse

Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal:

Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal

 

Pritesh Pradeep Saitwal - PAN card

Godase Ganesh Dhananjay - PAN card

Balance Sheet 2015.pdf (71.54 kb)

 

Android Ransomware - Porn Droid
by Rudolf Faix Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:03 AM

AndroidAs of late, zscaler ran over another variation of Porn Droid - an Android ransomware variation guaranteeing to be from the FBI, which blames individuals for watching youngster porn and after that requests a fine of USD 500.

It at first seems to the client as though they are downloading an obscene feature, yet once the client taps on the document, it takes on the appearance of the Google patch overhaul and traps the client into introducing the application.

Screenshot Update Patch Installation
It looks like a patch application

In the wake of clicking "Continue", the malware requests head access to the gadget asking for consents, for example, "Erase all data", "Set storage encryption", "Change the screen-unlock password" as demonstrated in screenshot beneath.

Screenshot: Activate Device Administrator - Porn Droid
Admin access

Once the client taps on the "ACTIVATE" button, the malware gets head control of the gadget and locks it while showing a fake FBI cautioning as seen underneath. It bolts the client's telephone by incapacitating keyguard and sets top need for the malware application which guarantees that no other application or client action can override the malware application's movement.

Screenshot: FBI device lock
FBI warning message

Screenshot: FBI Paypal payment
Payment tab

The FBI cautioning screen additionally contains dynamic data significant to the tainted gadget, for example, the program history, IMEI number, telephone number and casualty's photo, which has been taken by the malignant application. This is done to threaten the end client as a notice message proposes that the data will be utilized by the FBI to recognize the client if the fine is not paid.

Screenshot: FBI with user information
Screen with user information

Detailed analysis: zscaler ThreatLab

 

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Scam campaign from mpavistechnologies.com
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, May 2, 2015 8:38 AM

mpavistechnologies.comI had one campaign listed from mpavistechnologies.com, which has not been scam. I have delisted this campaign as soon as I found Tech Support offers from mpavistechnolgies in Facebook. The tech support offers are all scam. The calls are getting generated by scareware, which is called computer fraud. From advertisements, even on Google, you'll not get enough calls, that it will be profitable to sell the calls. All the consumer protection organizations around the world are already warning about the "Tech Support calls".

I got forwarded a campaign from mpavistechnlogies.com. mpavistechnologies.com did not send me the campaign description directly, because they know that I'll classify such a campaign only as scam.

Q & A

You will be calling potential customers all over the U.S. Looking for customers, who are interested, cooperative, are the home owner and are not currently under contract with another security company.  You will live transfer those calls to our closing agents.

Do you charge set up fees?
We do not charge set up fees nor do we charge for the right to do the campaign. All we ask is that you pay for your VOIP.

We are investing in you - We supply the dialer, Leads and the VAKA (non-voice software). This all costs money that we provide to you for free - We also are investing our time, not only getting you set up, but also the initial and ongoing training.

 

  • If you decide to supply the dialer, then are the costs of the dialer your problem and not the problem of the call center. The call center can do nothing to influence this costs and for this are this costs not the problem of the center. Any existing dialer or the call center is not increasing his value because it is not get used. 

  • Data and leads are the problem of the client. If the data or the leads are not good, then the best call center will fail. 

  • You like to use VAKA, for this are the costs for the software your problem and not the problem of the center. If you think VAKA is the best solution for you, then you need to supply it and you'll never be able to bill it to the call center.

  • You are investing your time? If you decide to that a call center has to use your system, then you have to train them on your software. For this you get paid from the client!

So you have can even not say that you are investing already enough for the center if you are really investing NOTHING!!!

 

What are the VOIP charges?
The cost of the VOIP is .0079 per minute - You should budget $2 - $4 per agent per day

Can you use your own VOIP Provider?
No. We require that everyone use our VOIP provider, both the opening centers and the closing centers. The reason we do it is to avoid all the tech issues and to provide you with accurate reporting on all calls. Our calling plan allows for all the calls to be connected through tier one and two providers and offer more termination points and outgoing channels that any other provider. Because everyone is on the same system, using the same VOIP provider we do not experience latency issues, echoes, delays and disconnections. The calls are clean and flawless.

Do you profit from the centers using your VOIP Provider?
No. We do not profit from this. You get charged, what we get charged.

Can you deduct the VOIP from future payouts?
The VOIP must be prepaid in order to get started. It is not our VOIP Company (3rd party) - We do not pay it for you.
We will set up the VOIP account for you and provide you with the web portal and show you how to proceed

You will have complete control, as you will have access to the Web Portal (VOIP provider) there, you will be able to load your minutes and receive your VOIP reports

As you provide dialer, leads, client software, etc. you should not search for call centers, which are paying your VoIP minutes. The call centers have no possibility to influence the dialing behavior, the data quality and all surroundings. For this you have to provide the VoIP minutes too. In this case you can run your own center with your own agents. For what you'll need some call centers in this case? With this offer you show that you need them only for paying your phone bills and the salary of the agents!!!

YOU SHOW WITH THIS OFFER ALREADY THAT YOU NOT TRUST INTO THE CAMPAIGN!!!

PayPal
You must set up a PayPal account both to make payment to VOIP provider and to receive payment from us. It is really simple to do - Just go to their website and set up an account - It is the easiest method and the cheapest

What is the pay out?
We will pay you $6 per transfer, with a 60 second buffer

What is a 60 second buffer and why is it needed?
A 60 second buffer means, that when the call is transferred the closing agent has 60 seconds to determine if the transferred call was a qualified transfer, meaning the customer was interested, cooperative, was the home owner (not a renter) and was not under contract with another security company - if the call goes 60 seconds or greater, the transferred call will be considered billable and therefore you will be paid on it.

Here you show exactly what I have said before. You don't trust your data and your product. For this you offer a pay per sale. You are proofing that already in your next sentence "they must be a home owner". With this you show that you have data, but they are not selected to be from home owners. The call center shall sort the data out for you. With such data you can only offer a pay per hour per agent!!!

What are the qualifications for a transferred call?
There are 2 criteria for the calls to be transferred - 1) they must be a home owner and not a renter 2) they must not be under contract with another security company. They can have a preexisting security system; they just can’t be under contract, meaning the contract must have expired. We cannot accept either of the above - Therefore, it is in the agreement - If we see that you are transferring an unacceptable amount of renters or customers that are under contract, we will terminate the arrangement. - It means your agents are not doing their jobs, asking the correct questions and getting the correct answers

What can my center achieve?
That really all depends upon you and your agents - Your agents should be able to achieve 4 billable transfers per day each - Keep in mind, in an 8 hour day that is only 1 transfer every 2 hours. Your agents will be speaking to 500 people a day - That’s 1 out of every 125 people.

Your agents will be dialing 3000 - 5000 numbers per day each - speaking with between 300 - 500 customers a day

Let us make an example: In average a call gets answered after 3 times ringing. 3 times ringing is taking around 15 seconds. If we are dialing 3000 numbers then we can calculate the dialing time of 15 seconds * 3000 calls / 3600 = 12.5 hours for a 10 hours working day (Monday until Thursday).

The other way is you are using a dialer, which is already illegal in the USA. In this case you need to have a lot of money for the fine from the FTC. If you have millions of dollars why do you cry in this case about the VoIP minutes? It is nice from you that you are providing the dialer, because in this case you will get the punishment and not the center.

Take a look at http://news.wwpa.com/post/2015/04/30/ftc-and-ten-state-attorneys-general-take-action-against-political-survey-robocallers-pitching-cruise-line-vacations-to-the-bahamas.aspx. The responsible companies got punished with fines over 5 millions of dollars. Why are you crying about VoIP minutes and hourly rates for the agents if you have so much money in your wallet?

In any case your system is dialing and that need to be done on your own bill and not on the bill of the center. The center has no influence on this dial behavior.

 

What is your pay schedule?
The week starts on Friday and ends on Thursday - You will be paid the next day (Friday) - You will be paid via PayPal.

Is it possible to send payment to our international merchant account?
No, only if it is attached to your PayPal Account.

Calling Schedule
All times are based on EST. At present, we are open from 9am - 7pm EST Monday - Thursday, 9am - 5pm EST, Friday and 12pm - 5pm EST on Saturday.

53 hours of calling per week = 3180 minutes * 0.0079 = 25.122 $/week or in average 4.187 per day (6 days)

Training.
The scripts and training, we will provide them once the agreement is returned

Please go to tmicomm.com and watch the demo video.
I will personally do a live the training session with all your agents. The training will last approximately 1 1/2 hours. The training is divided into 4 sections 1) Background on the campaign 2) Dialer how it works – how to transfer 3) VAKA – How it works – how the system is laid out, what the recordings to use and when 4) listen to sample recordings of agents on their first days on the job. This will illustrate what the agents can expect and what not to do. It will get them past the learning curve quickly.

Your agents will then role play with each other - One will act as the customer, the other the agent. This will help get them familiarized with the system. Once you feel the agents are proficient, you will be free to start dialing.

Reports Disclosure
You will receive reports everyday showing exactly how many transfers were sent, how many of them where billable, all call durations and how much money is due.

You will also be granted admin access to the dialer reports. You will be able to live monitor your agent’s calls. Have access to all the recordings both, on the opening side and also on the closing side. In addition, you will be able to monitor your agent’s activity. You will know when they sign in, when they are on pause, how many calls they took and the result.

How long does it take to set up?
The set up process is very easy. Once we receive the agreement back, we will set you up in the system. Once that is complete, we will set up your VOIP account. You will then prepay your VOIP. Once set up you will change the audio settings on each agents work station. It will take a few minutes for each one. We will provide explicit directions that are easy to follow. In the event, you still need help our tech department will assist you. The whole process lasts about an hour.

this is http://tmicomm.com/main/?page_id=32
training which we will follow

mpavistechnologies.com shows with this offer that they have no idea from the call center business and from the rules of the FTC. They are only searching for someone, which is taking the risk for their campaigns. This one, which takes the risk has no possibility to influence and reduce the risk.

 

 

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