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Don’t make business with Rohit Khatri and Navdeep Bhagia - both are liars
by Rudolf Faix Sunday, April 5, 2015 6:12 AM

Someone, who is posting fake messages about others and wrong proves for destroying the reputation of others, is a criminal and not trustworthy for making any business. It seems it is a fight between scammers. For this all involved parties are very suspect. I'll suggest to Ashish Chettri to start legal actions against Rohit Khatri and Navdeep Bhagia. Character assassination is a crime. Maybe the prosecutor has the opinion that there is an organized crime, as several people were involved.

It got proven that the posting of Rohit Khatri has been a big lie, because he needed to remove it yesterday. Nobody removes a posting if the content is without any harm for him or the content has expired.

Rohit Khatri posted yesterday in Facebook in the group Inbound Tech Support at Cheap Price (the posting is already removed):

Rohit Khatri

Rohit Khatri - Inbound Tech Support Calls at Cheap Price
Guys once again i have blasted the scammer plan. This guy named Ashish Chettri basically from Rana Ghat West Bengal involved in many online scam like western union blocking and pop up calls. He never route any call to anyone neither transfer any cash after blocking the payment. See his bad luck ye mere hatthe chad gaya. "WARNING FOR ALL SCAMMERS I AM AFTER YOU" Seriously yahi haal karunga sabka jo scam karega. If this guy has scamm anyone do let me know this guy is in custody till monday then he will appear at court.

 

 

 

Navdeep Bhagla

 

 

Navdeep Bhagia added the video from YouTube, published August 13, 2014, for proving their allegations:

 

 

 

@Ashish Chettri: I'm sorry, that I believed to the posting from yesterday and that I shared the the posting of this big liars. What seems too good to be true is mostly not true.

Facebook Navdeep Bhagla.pdf (960.81 kb)

Facebook Rohit Khatri.pdf (1.39 mb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link to the Facebook profiles of Rohit Khatri (https://www.facebook.com/rohit.khatri.566) and Navdeep Bhagia (https://www.facebook.com/binnysam) removed as they are returning error 404 - not found.

 

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Scammer Exposed

Jailbreak via e-mail Scams
by Rudolf Faix Monday, March 30, 2015 10:40 AM

JailFile and carved soap gun are past: Modern Fugitive obtained his release by social engineering, as the case of a British prisoner shows.

A prisoner in London succeeded via an e-mail fraud his release.  He smuggled according to the BBC report a smartphone into the jail. He used the smartphone to create a similar sounding domain of the court with a registration of the investigating officer. In e-mails with this TLD he pretended to be a senior official and sent instructions to his dismissal to the prison administration. He got released without difficulty on the 10th of March.

Just three days later, when his defenders wanted to talk to him, the prison staff noticed that M. has been unlawfully removed from the jail. A few days after, M. handed himself later.  So much ingenuity obviously made an impression: both judge and prosecutor M. classified as "brilliant" criminal one, as the BBC writes.

The verdict on the talented social engineer M. is expected in April; he is said to have operated investment fraud under false identities and swindled about more than 1.8 million pounds.

 

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Call centers read the given scripts and conditions very carefully
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:50 AM

As more closely I take a look in the offshore outsourcing business as more I come to the conclusion that either the offshore call center themselves should get deceived or it should help to cheat others.

I got the following email with attachments forwarded. For easier reading I have opened the documents and pasted their content into the email. The script shows how the customer is getting betrayed.

It is a game to make the called one afraid that he does not get his medication in the future. That is already a big fault in selling. That has nothing to do with a serious sale. It looks like the client has no chance to sell his products in a serious way to someone. For this purpose he need to use such criminal methods.

If you are looking at the from me read marked parts of the email, then you see that you get only paid if the lead is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies. All other medications are not getting paid.

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: diabetic LT
From: "Visionary Leads" <info@visionaryleads.com>
Date: 2/4/15 10:47 am
To: jorell@visionaryleads.com

OUTSOURCEDIABETIC SCRIPT.DOCX

Hi! Is (patient) available?

Hi (patient)! I'm calling from Health Source. I just want to let you know Mr./Mrs. (patient) that you may no longer be receiving your diabetic supplies in the mail and I just wanted to make sure that you will be getting your diabetes supplies on time.

Do you mind me asking the last time that you got your diabetic supplies in the mail?

Ok! I'm going to get you setup. I just have to verify some basic information.

-Verify the address:

Are you still located at _________?

Can I have you Date of Birth?

Also, can I have your primary health insurance?
(No Medicare Part B or Medicaid)
(Diabetics with Medicare accompanied with private insurance, Share private insurance with Pharma Rep)

Before I'm going to transfer you to the pharmacy specialist that's going to get you setup, I just want ask you if there are any issues with your health that I may be able to help with?

-(Site exaples-e.g. back pain, join pain, diabetic neuropathy etc.)

Because you are eligible to receive a new compounded pain cream at little to no cost to you. The pain cream is a much more effective option than normal medication.
Also, it will help get rid of any pain you may be having.

-Ask for the pain location (start with the most severely affected location)

Ok! Great. Just make sure you CLEARLY STATE that you are willing to switch suppliers to the pharmacy affiliate, so you can receive your mention supplies on time and on a regular basis. Just one second while I get the diabetic specialist on the line. She is going to verify your doctor and make sure you have the proper billing information for your insurance and then we will get that sent out for you immediately.

Please stay on the line okay?
----transfer call----
(WHEN TRANSFERRING A CALL ALWAYS PROVIDE THE DIABETIC’S PRIVATE INSURANCE TO PHARMA SPECIALIST)


DIABETIC LIVE TRANSFER GUIDELINES.DOCX
LIVE XFER DIRECTIONS:

It is important inform the patient they may need to switch suppliers. A Diabetic specialist will explain the detailed options after verifying Contact Info/ Insurance info / Dr. Info.
Specialists will accept introduction with either short or long form info.

  TO TRANSFER A CALL TO THE DIABETIC SPECIALIST: AGENT INTERFACE:
TRANSFER>Presets>MedCare Pharmacy>DIAL WITH CUSTOMER>LEAVE 3 WAY CALL

INTRODUCE THE PATIENT TO THE SPECIALIST AND LET THE AGENT KNOW WHICH PRODUCT THE PATIENT IS INTERESTED IN (EX: DIABETIC TESTING SUPPLIES, PAIN GEL, ETC).

IF YOU HAVE ASKED THE PATIENT FOR INSURANCE/DR INFO, THEN TELL THE SPECIALIST THE INFO YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY WITH THE PATIENT.
PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND LEAVE THE CONFERENCE QUIETLY.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE INTRODUCTION QUIETLY LEAVE THE CALL.
ANY NOISE DURING THE RECORDED ENROLLMENT PROCESS WILL VOID THE LEAD.


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HEALTH SOURCE

- Health Source represents Pharmacy affiliates. Our purpose is to supply quality Pharmacy services and products to the comfort and privacy of our patients homes at little or no cost to the patient.

- We are looking for patients who need diabetic testing supplies.

-We offer all meters/strips, medical supplies, Braces, and Compound Rx Medications shipped to the patients home on a regular basis at no cost to them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agent Notes:

- Remember only transfer when the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy.

- When a patient asks a question that you do not know, simply transfer the call and inform the patient "a diabetic specialist will better answer your question, If you would like I can transfer you now……(xfer to Pharmacy)".

- Engage patients in conversation that will stimulate a positive rapport without wasting time. Be efficient with your time and know when to hangup. Many patients will speak on and on with no intention of enrolling in our service……. Reports, Graphs, and Call-Data Metrics reflect a positive correlation between top producing agents to agents with the longest call time averages.
On average, the best agents spend more time on on each call because they stay close to the script, establish a rapport, all while speaking clearly and slowly.
      Ex: Confirm a street
address/dob/PolicyInfo/doctor/etc, Ask about the weather, mention a personal experience, discuss your health concerns, etc.. NEVER let a patient control a conversation. Stick to the point and get back to your script as quickly as possible.

- Remember only transfer if the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy located in sunny south Florida,

Sent from my iPhone

John Krawczyk
Visionary Leads
CMO
215-949-3636
www.visionaryleads.com
www.seomanagementconsultants.com
www.classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists)
www.diabeticdesk.com

I’ll suggest in this case making for your own security a recording of the transferred call. This is technical possible if your VoIP system is staying in the media path after the transfer. It uses a little bit more traffic but you have afterwards something what you can present to any fraud investing official.


The client is only paying per lead and it seems to be very hard to sell his products. Why else should he write already the fraud into the script?

 

If we take a look at the listed domains in the signature than we find out that:

  • seomanagementconsultants.com is registered at May 15, 2012, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • visionaryleads.com is registered at June 3, 2013, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) is a new domain, registered at September 30, 2014. This site is already registered to an address in India and has a corresponding bad reputation.
  • diabeticdesk.com is also a new domain, registered at November 23, 2014. This site is registered to an India address and has a very high risk.
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) and diabeticdesk.com are hosted at a server, which have one more high risk site on it: ropemediahouse.com
  • Interesting is in any case that ropemediahous.com and classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) have the same owner, who does even not know what is a street and a house number:
    classesanddegree.com: Rope Media Pvt Ltd, Gurgaon, 122001 Haryana, India, +91.9818555403
    ropemediahouse.com: Rope Media Private Limited, Vasant Kunj, 110070 New Delhi, +91.01244306053

If we take a look at the website www.diabeticdesk.com then we know why only leads for diabetic measurement products are getting paid. There is no other product offered then diabetic measurements. Drugs are not offered. For this the necessary drugs will not get shipped. It would be better to get a campaign from or for a drugstore. In such a case the call center will not cheat some people.

 

The name John Krawczyk sounds and seems to be a Polish name. In combination with the facts above I remember an old Austrian proverb: “Come and visit Poland - Your car is already there.”

It seems for me that there is an organized fraud happening. It can be possible too, that John Krawczyk is getting used from the scammer from India.

 

Registration information of the used Domains:

Domain Name: SEOMANAGEMENTCONSULTANTS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1720656451_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-16T10:52:36Z
Creation Date: 2012-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: (215) 609-0122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: (215) 543-5736
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: (215) 609-0122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: (215) 543-5736
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: (215) 609-0122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: (215) 543-5736
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-05T21:00:00Z
Domain Name: VISIONARYLEADS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1805955020_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-06-04 07:52:36
Creation Date: 2013-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: SEO
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 2156090122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: SEO
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 2156090122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: SEO
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: 2156090122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-07-31T19:00:00Z
Domain Name: CLASSESANDDEGREE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1878271185_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Creation Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Registrant Street: Gurgaon
Registrant City: Gurgaon
Registrant State/Province: Haryana
Registrant Postal Code: 122001
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9818555403
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Admin Street: Gurgaon
Admin City: Gurgaon
Admin State/Province: Haryana
Admin Postal Code: 122001
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9818555403
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Tech Street: Gurgaon
Tech City: Gurgaon
Tech State/Province: Haryana
Tech Postal Code: 122001
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9818555403
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: DIABETICDESK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1886767790_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Registrant City: Lucknow
Registrant State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 226010
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9161867901
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Admin City: Lucknow
Admin State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 226010
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9161867901
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Tech City: Lucknow
Tech State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 226010
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9161867901
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM this domain is only at the same Server.
Registry Domain ID: 1860052127_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Creation Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Registrant Street: Vasant Kunj
Registrant Street: Vasant Kun
Registrant City: New Delhi
Registrant State/Province: Delhi
Registrant Postal Code: 110070
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.01244306053
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Admin Street: Vasant Kunj
Admin Street: Vasant Kun
Admin City: New Delhi
Admin State/Province: Delhi
Admin Postal Code: 110070
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.01244306053
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Tech Street: Vasant Kunj
Tech Street: Vasant Kun
Tech City: New Delhi
Tech State/Province: Delhi
Tech Postal Code: 110070
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.01244306053
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-11-17T14:00:00Z

 

Diabetic Desk.pdf (324KB)

 

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Scammer Exposed

A LinkedIn offer where the broker likes to reinvent the slavery - David Goodstein
by Rudolf Faix Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:17 AM

David Goodstein is searching for a call center at LinkedIn, where he can pull money, the call center has the risk and the work. The difference to the other scams is only, that the offer is very well described including the cheat (I have only picked out the most important parts):

  • "The only thing the customer is responsible for is the monthly monitoring fee. The fee ranges in price between $39 and $60 a month"
    Sorry, who likes the monitoring? In a normal world is it this one, who asks for the monitoring need to pay for it. In this case is it the client, for whom is done the work!

  • "You are responsible for your VOIP minutes"
    Your client is not able to pay the phone bill for the calls to the United States, which are normally traded at www.voicetrading.com for US$ 0.0052 and at www.voicebuy.com between US$ 0.0045 and US$ 0.0075 per minute. This is already too expensive for his customer. How would his customer pay the bill in this case for the call center?
    Sorry Mr. Goodstein, but you like to have a gift? Which gift gets the call center? At this world is nothing for free.

  • "Initially (first 2 weeks) your commission is based off of completed installations only and not on a transfer basis (payout is $150 per installation)."
    Mr. Goodstein, do you really think that someone can survive with $150 for 2 weeks even in a low wage country? Do you really think that you can get someone, which takes the risk of your business for you? I think that nobody will be so stupid and accept such an offer.

  • "We require you to use our Non - Voice Avatar like technology."
    Wow Mr. Goodstein, you like to make a test drive with your Avatar? In such a case you have to pay the agents per hour and not per lead! How the agent will be able to handle difficult and angry people? Mr. Goodstein do you have even recordings for this kind of people? How long is your list of recordings? Should the agent listen to the customer or permanently search for the correct recordings in the list?

  • "After the 2 week trial basis, if we see your team is capable of sending quality transfers on a consistent basis, we will pay you $6 per transfer, with a 60 second buffer)"
    We have seen already that you are not searching for quality. But even $6 is too less, if you accept only 59% of the transfer, like you have sent it in the Excel file, which is attached here. In this case the $6 is only $3.54. Mr. Goodstein, we all know that the US south states lost the war for the slavery. Do you like to reinvent the slavery again?

 

 
The agreement 1a Transfer Agreement - $6 per Transfer  60 second Buffer 01 26 20015:
  • "Except in the case of a predetermined lunch break, force majeure and or technical difficulties outside of the centers control, 80% of ALL logged agents MUST remain dialing during regular business hours with NO EXCEPTIONS. This includes scheduled breaks where no more than 20% of ALL agents may be on break at any given time. Failure to comply with this will result in a financial penalty of 20% of the daily average Billable Leads Generated by the center for EACH day such an infraction occurs."
    Mr. Goodstein: As your offer pays per lead, then you cannot make a penalty for working time or something else. In such a case you have to pay per hour!! What you try is nothing more than a big cheat!!!

  • "Company bears full responsibility for compliance with all state and federal laws regarding the content of their messages(s). Company certifies messages(s) used will be in compliance with 47 U.S.C § 227 or certifies exemption from its requirements."
    Mr. Goodstein: If you not print out this §, then is it invalid in any international agreement. You need to take care, that the "Company" gets informed about this rule. You can use this rule inside the US, but not in international contracts.

  • "Company agrees to pay all reasonable collection and/or attorney’s fees associated with part any investigation or compliant regarding Company’s use of the Service and proprietary technology."
    Mr. Goodstein: You try to give all fees in case of trial to your contractor before judgement day. That is really a nice try, but this is already invalid in international business. A nice try, but you will not be able to use it.

  • "TMI COMMUNICATIONS shall be held harmless in the event calls cannot be affected for any reason. Service and proprietary technology is provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. Due to the nature of our products/services we do not allow refunds or cancellations. All Subscription Services are non refundable and on a month to month basis and are prepay only."
    Mr. Goodstein if you sell a service, which has to use a special technology, then you are responsible for this technology. If this technology is not working, then the customer or the call center has to get an refund. You are only try to cheat everybody!!!

  • "TMI COMMUNICATIONS reserves the right to cancel any scheduled campaign anytime"
    Mr. Goodstein: If you cancel a scheduled campaign, than you have compensate your contractor for this canceling

  • The signature
    Even the signature is invalid, because it use a script font instead of a hand written signature. That is your next try to cheat. Maybe you don't have any business education, but in international business have the documents to get signed in front of a notary and need to get legalized in each country.
All the other documents seems to got written by an amateur and not by using the help of an attorney. As they even don't like to pay for the phone minutes, it can be that a consultancy fee of an attorney has been to expensive too.
 
The agreement 4b - Agreement - Lead Generation - Avatar
  • Point 8 - Competitors Clause
    This clause is invalid as long as you not pay for the time, in your case 3 years, a compensation to your contractor

  • Point 10 - Contract is valid by transmitting it scanned, emailed, faxed etc
    Sorry but nobody is able to replace international law by any agreement. The agreement cannot get executed in this case. 

  • Point 11 - Don't call list, etc
    If TMI Communications is providing dialer and data, then TMI Communications is responsible for this rules. The "company" has no influence to the dialed number,because the leads are getting provided to them. The avatar system is already breaking the rule of TCPA about prerecorded messages. So the crime starts already at TMI Communications and the "company" should be responsible for this criminal act.

 

As Mr. Goodstein did even not sign it in a proper way all the documents have less value then the paper on it will get printed.

The LinkedIn offer from David Goodstein:

Home Security Lead Generation Campaign Available - Dialer, Avatar & Leads Provided for Free Auswahl des Managers

 

David Goodstein

Home Security Live Transfers, with 60 second buffers

Home security Campaign Available– We have 12 different installation groups that we are Master dealers for. They each have their own unique footprint to do installations in. When you combine all the footprints, we are in 44 states, covering over 40,000 zip codes or roughly 90% of the U.S. population. We offer the customer free equipment, free installation and wave out activation fee. The only thing the customer is responsible for is the monthly monitoring fee. The fee ranges in price between $39 and $60 a month. You would be doing lead generation; finding customers that have interest, cooperation are the home owners (not renters) and are not under contract with another security company. 

 

You will live transfer those calls to our closing agents. We will provide you with the dialer, avatar and leads for free. You are responsible for your VOIP minutes. 

 

Minimum 25 agents 

 

Initially (first 2 weeks) your commission is based off of completed installations only and not on a transfer basis (payout is $150 per installation). After the 2 week trial basis, if we see your team is capable of sending quality transfers on a consistent basis, we will pay you $6 per transfer, with a 60 second buffer) We require you to use our Non – Voice Avatar like technology. – Please go to tmicomm.com and review the demo video. 

 

David Goodstein 

TMIComm LLC 

(561) 574 - 4715 

dsgdsg77@gmail.com 

http://tmicomm.com/ 

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The Business Advisor Kaushik Ganguly, with "16 years experience", does not know for whom he is working
by Rudolf Faix Friday, February 13, 2015 1:23 AM

In the night I got a LinkedIn message from Kaushik Ganguly, Business Advisor and Management Consultant for ITES - Call Center industry with 16 years experience A part of this email is:

"what if center fails to perform? what if center fails to retain campaign? what if center do not work seriously? what if center do not have financial strength to run center? what if center close down for other reasons? AND most importantly ... what if center choose not to pay consultant/broker after getting payment from client?? Those all happened in real life with many people

If center talks about giving monthly payment to consultant ... why they can't pay the way they pay to Chartered Accountant, VOIP provider, Dialer company, Lead provider and many others? Why always they make a big issue of paying to consultant ... when they know getting a good profitable campaign is 500% more important then getting audit, voip, dialer or leads!! "

It seems that this "Business Advisor" does not know for whom he is working and who is paying the bill! He did not learn in "16 years" of experience how business is done. That is the same way like you pay for an attorney to bring you into jail.

If he get's paid from the outsourcing company, then he is in need to verify the center to which he suggest to outsource. This cannot only be done by verifying the business register and the credit-worthiness of the center. That has nothing to do with any upfront fee or any other similar fee, however it would get called. As soon as he takes from the chosen center some money he is running into a conflict of his and his customers interest.

If he get's paid from the center, which takes the outsourcing contract, then he is responsible for the credit-worthiness of the outsourcing company and that this company is a real company. Here he has to do the same inspections and researches about the outsourcing company.

If his client, there is no difference if his client is the outsourcing company or the center which is doing the outsourced work, is a fake, he is in a very bad situation, because he is liable to his client and has to compensate his clients damage, because it his fault if he did his research not in full. In this case the "broker" or however he likes to get called, has to show his identity too. Hiding themselves in the anonymity of the internet show only that the is not real and nobody shall do any business with him. Everybody should know that you cannot reach into pocket of a naked one.

What he has written is true, but the word "center" need to get replaced with the phrase "all participating parties".

In any case his explanations are showing only that he is promoting not existing services or campaigns to get new centers, because he stated in his email that he is starting his work for a center not before he gets the order. This is called betraying and is a criminal action, which will get prosecuted.

Even his company iNanoSoft Outsourcing has no domain. The only result found in Googles history is iNanoSoft.de. It has be a software company from Germany, which is already closed.

The LinkedIn Mail communication:

RE:The “genuine campaigns” from the brokers

Kaushik Ganguly Business Advisor and Management Consultant for ITES - Call Center industry with 16 years experience

 

12. Februar 2015, 17:10 Uhr

 

Sie und Kaushik Ganguly sind beide in einem Netzwerk oder einer Gruppe.

There are many misunderstanding and misconceptions around about call center business development ... as well as too much hypocrisy and foolishness. Let's analyse one by one - 

1) someone is making a call center ... without knowledge and experience about this industry? If they have experience ... then why they can't arrange business on their own? If they don't have experience ... then how they expect to get on their terms? 

2) It is demand and supply. If getting business is very easy ... no one will ask for a penny! If very tough ... you have to pay to get. It again depends on center's profile ... if they are big ... all will come to them ... if small center ... they have to try a lot and experiment 

3) People talking about consultant's role should not end with client SLA. Fine, then give him a proper role. Make him your advisor! Don't expect that you will treat someone as broker and he will give A-Z service ... don't demand like a kid! 

4) People expect that consultant (or broker ... whatever you call them) should give a direct client, give unlimited support and should not ask for money ... till center makes money!! Great .... but few questions ... what if center fails to perform? what if center fails to retain campaign? what if center do not work seriously? what if center do not have financial strength to run center? what if center close down for other reasons? AND most importantly ... what if center choose not to pay consultant/ broker after getting payment from client?? Those all happened in real life with many people 

5) If center talks about giving monthly payment to consultant ... why they can't pay the way they pay to Chartered Accountant, VOIP provider, Dialer company, Lead provider and many others? Why always they make a big issue of paying to consultant ... when they know getting a good profitable campaign is 500% more important then getting audit, voip, dialer or leads!! 

Only solution is to build a long term relationship between genuine center and genuine consultant ... based on mutual trust and confidence. Else one can go on bashing consultants/ brokers and end up being cry baby with no progress at all

 

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