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by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:51 AM

LinkedIn profile picture from Kshitij TripathiI have described at my article Scammer: Apostotlebpo.In - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma how the centers are getting scammed. Here I describe now the way how a scammer tries to get campaigns which he can sell to others without doing some work by himself. A lot of people are dreaming about such an income possibility.

His standard answer "Nobody is paying for shit leads" is nothing else than a self protection. If he would run a real business he would provide a list of the leads together with the reason why the lead is a bad one. As scammers are lazy and everybody can see it in the Skype conversations, which I had with Kshitij Tripathi during one year where he is even too lazy to forward any proofs. He even don't try to get his money back by using the authorities, which he says that he got scammed for. This fact shows that he has only invented the stories and is not able to provide any proof for anything.

After publishing this article Kshitij Tripathi tried to defend himself at LinkedIn. By commenting he has forgotten that he declared himself in the Skype communication with me to be nothing else than a liar:

Kshitij Tripathi

i have proofs of centers of your country ryan valenzuela those are working for me more than one year and they know i how i work still nothing matters lol, keep going i am enjoying

 

For the case that the above statement is not a lie for protecting himself (each proof is missing), then Kshitij Tripathi has lied in the following Skype communication with me, where he tried to make the impression of having a call center. In any case has Kshitij Tripathi confirmed that he is nothing else than a liar. A liar can never be a trusted business partner.

The following Skype communication with Kshitij Tripathi aka KT Robby (Skype: kt.robby) shows the way how he likes to get campaigns for his man-in-the-middle "business". The problem is only that he even don't know how a call center business is functioning and he repeats the same invented story again and again. He thinks that he can even sell some scammer stories to me. It seems that he even don't know that I need only to open the website from LinkedIn or Facebook and pick any random offer to get a source for a new article about a scammer. He has been even too lazy or not able to send me any proof for his stories, which he repeated every time he contacted me on Skype.

[26.04.2015 03:51:53] KT Robby: hello
[26.04.2015 03:51:54] KT Robby: sir
[26.04.2015 06:46:22] *** KT Robby möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen

Hi Rudolf Faix, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[26.04.2015 06:58:18] *** Rudolf Faix hat Kontaktdetails mit KT Robby ausgetauscht. ***
[26.04.2015 08:03:33] KT Robby: hey
[26.04.2015 08:03:58] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[26.04.2015 08:04:17] KT Robby: morning sir
[26.04.2015 08:04:20] KT Robby: i am good
[26.04.2015 08:05:43] KT Robby: well i am looking for campaign just to extend my business, right we are running us based outbound campaign
[26.04.2015 08:06:28] Rudolf Faix: I'm not a campaign broker. I only put scammer on the grill and good offers into the spotlight
[26.04.2015 08:06:39] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:06:44] KT Robby: sorry abt dt
[26.04.2015 08:06:59] KT Robby: so any NPO is in your contact
[26.04.2015 08:07:49] Rudolf Faix: Take a look into my blog there you can find some details including contact details in the menu "Fair business partners"
[26.04.2015 08:07:55] KT Robby: i know a sacam,er , u wanna catch him
[26.04.2015 08:08:27] KT Robby: its will be biggest scam of usa
[26.04.2015 08:08:38] Rudolf Faix: If you can document the scam, then you can forward the proves to my email rudolffaix@gmail.com
[26.04.2015 08:09:48] KT Robby: hez running long distance business from silv communication and saying to custome that i am calling from at&t and verizon and ur monthly telephone bills are going to be cheaper but its not like dt , customer got higher amount of bills
[26.04.2015 08:11:10] Rudolf Faix: That is the difference between promotion and reality. For this the customer needs to complain at the FTC
[26.04.2015 08:11:35] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:12:18] Rudolf Faix: I'm hunting this scammer, which are scamming the call centers.
[26.04.2015 08:12:53] KT Robby: wchich scammer
[26.04.2015 08:13:29] Rudolf Faix: Take a look at http://blog.wwpa.com/category/Scammer-Exposed.aspx
[26.04.2015 08:13:44] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:14:10] Rudolf Faix: There you have all my victims collected
[26.04.2015 08:14:20] KT Robby: alright
[26.04.2015 08:14:52] KT Robby: wat d best i can do i can give u d only rec of customer and agent
[26.04.2015 08:15:46] KT Robby: one recording when they will be saying to customer that nothing will be change nothing will be charge and in the other rec their international and long distance calls are going high
[26.04.2015 08:15:52] KT Robby: and its b to b campaign
[26.04.2015 08:15:59] KT Robby: very highlighted sam
[26.04.2015 08:16:03] Rudolf Faix: You see like I have documented the scam. So I need a link to their profile and to their offer. You should provide also the emais or skype protocols where you got scammed.
[26.04.2015 08:16:31] KT Robby: i dunn want my name plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[26.04.2015 08:17:28] Rudolf Faix: That can be made invisible. Take a look as I have made names invisible too at some screenshots.
[26.04.2015 08:17:53] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:17:58] KT Robby: any reward
[26.04.2015 08:18:24] Rudolf Faix: No, because I'm not earning something by putting scammer on the grill
[26.04.2015 08:18:39] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:18:54] Rudolf Faix: It is only my hobby and a revenge for a friend, which needed to close his center for getting scammed
[26.04.2015 08:19:44] KT Robby: here the client and the centre both are scamming customers
[26.04.2015 08:21:13] Rudolf Faix: I reach only centers and not the clients. The centers are mostly not knowing what they are selling and if the promises getting kept. In this case the only the client is responsible for his campaign
[26.04.2015 08:21:59] Rudolf Faix: The centers are only responsible if they could know about the scam. This is the case with the Windows Pop Up calls
[26.04.2015 08:22:21] KT Robby: i told u this rest of depend n you sir
[26.04.2015 08:22:29] KT Robby: its a veri big scam
[26.04.2015 08:22:39] KT Robby: i can send u d rec if u wants
[26.04.2015 08:22:43] KT Robby: dan u can think
[26.04.2015 08:22:54] Rudolf Faix: Please send me the details
[26.04.2015 08:23:17] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:23:44] KT Robby: but plzzz centre owner knows me so i dunn need my name
[26.04.2015 08:24:19] Rudolf Faix: I'll hide your name in by publishing the scam
[26.04.2015 08:27:28] KT Robby: ok
[26.04.2015 08:28:00] KT Robby: so can u plz suggest any npo for this because its my aim to run a npo campaign plzzz
[26.04.2015 08:28:19] KT Robby: u can take it as a reward if u dunn mind,, sir
[26.04.2015 08:28:35] KT Robby: i know a guy may be u also know him
[26.04.2015 08:28:50] KT Robby: npo name is TELECARE
[26.04.2015 08:29:04] Rudolf Faix: As I have written before, take a look into the menu "Fair Business Partners" of my blog. What is published there is available.
[26.04.2015 08:29:57] KT Robby: ok
[26.04.2015 08:30:06] KT Robby: let me take a look , sir
[26.04.2015 08:30:08] Rudolf Faix: I did not find more then the offered campaigns there
[26.04.2015 08:30:59] Rudolf Faix: The contact details are in each article included
[26.04.2015 08:31:11] KT Robby: ok sir

Like I mentioned before, I did not get any email from him about the scam. For this reason is it for me only a fairy tale.

[27.04.2015 05:08:08] KT Robby: hello sir
[27.04.2015 05:08:39] KT Robby: thnak u for mopening my eyes , in was going to do business with jo soft technologioes with inbound campaign
[27.04.2015 05:08:42] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[27.04.2015 05:08:51] KT Robby: i am okay sir
[27.04.2015 05:09:37] KT Robby: did u scam jo soft technologoes .,, right
[27.04.2015 05:10:09] KT Robby: did u car-tch dam
[27.04.2015 05:10:09] Rudolf Faix: No. I reported them only
[27.04.2015 05:10:31] KT Robby: they ae offerine me for inbound campIGN
[27.04.2015 05:10:43] KT Robby: asking me 10 lakh money
[27.04.2015 05:11:00] Rudolf Faix: each upfront is only a scam
[27.04.2015 05:11:07] KT Robby: okay sir
[27.04.2015 05:11:15] Rudolf Faix: Take a look into my blog under scammer
[27.04.2015 05:11:22] Rudolf Faix: there you find them listed
[27.04.2015 05:11:23] KT Robby: i just look out
[27.04.2015 05:11:28] KT Robby: dts why i asked u
[27.04.2015 05:11:38] KT Robby: thanku so much i just addedc with u
[27.04.2015 05:11:50] KT Robby: otherwise i was losting my money
[27.04.2015 05:11:50] Rudolf Faix: you are welcome
[27.04.2015 05:12:26] KT Robby: hows kathy enteprises for time warner telecom to run b to b campaign for long distance
[27.04.2015 05:12:57] Rudolf Faix: Kathy sisks is a good broker
[27.04.2015 05:13:12] KT Robby: okay
[27.04.2015 05:14:04] KT Robby: can i deal with her
[27.04.2015 05:14:21] Rudolf Faix: Yes, there is no risk
[27.04.2015 05:14:43] KT Robby: thanku so much
[27.04.2015 05:14:51] KT Robby: i send u d rec.
[27.04.2015 05:14:57] KT Robby: give me ur mail id
[27.04.2015 05:15:11] Rudolf Faix: rudolffaix@gmail.com
[27.04.2015 05:15:25] KT Robby: send u wait
[27.04.2015 05:15:52] KT Robby: can u plz suggest kathy for campaign, trust me we can un good
[27.04.2015 05:16:23] KT Robby: its a big scam
[27.04.2015 05:16:35] Rudolf Faix: I have listed Kathy Sisks in the Fair Business Partners
[27.04.2015 05:17:04] KT Robby: company name is SILV communication, united telecom, they just outsorced the campaign in India
[27.04.2015 05:17:24] KT Robby: they are scamiiing usa people for the last 8n yeas
[27.04.2015 05:17:50] Rudolf Faix: OK, are they using the Kathy Sisk Campaigns?
[27.04.2015 05:19:13] KT Robby: noppp
[27.04.2015 05:19:22] Rudolf Faix: OK
[27.04.2015 05:19:28] KT Robby: they got personal long distance campaign
[27.04.2015 05:19:38] KT Robby: can i call u, if u dunn mind
[27.04.2015 05:20:20] Rudolf Faix: Here is it early in the morning and my family is still sleeping. It is 5:20am
[27.04.2015 05:20:42] KT Robby: okay
[27.04.2015 05:20:48] KT Robby: no issue , sir
[27.04.2015 05:21:08] Rudolf Faix: I don't like to wake them up. Later you can call me
[27.04.2015 05:21:20] KT Robby: right now i am working with MAKO Marketing LLC for Diabetics
[27.04.2015 05:21:31] KT Robby: can u plz tell me how sthey guys
[27.04.2015 05:21:40] KT Robby: clieny=t nam eis Omar Solari
[27.04.2015 05:21:45] Rudolf Faix: I don't know them
[27.04.2015 05:22:45] Rudolf Faix: You can check their offers by the provided list: http://blog.wwpa.com/post/scam-and-scammer-how-to-identify-them.aspx
[27.04.2015 05:25:03] KT Robby: but you make a update for kathy sisk for medical compensation for scameers
[27.04.2015 05:25:11] KT Robby: what does it means
[27.04.2015 05:25:49] Rudolf Faix: I did not make an update
[27.04.2015 05:26:05] KT Robby: ok
[27.04.2015 05:26:23] KT Robby: u can check
[27.04.2015 05:26:54 | Bearbeitet 05:27:09] Rudolf Faix: There is only a ping back for a link. 2 campaigns can get combined
[27.04.2015 05:27:36] KT Robby: ok
[27.04.2015 05:27:46] Rudolf Faix: Time Warner and Call Save USA can get combined
[27.04.2015 05:28:01] Rudolf Faix: Where do you see the update?
[27.04.2015 05:28:58] KT Robby: so i can work with kathy for time warner
[27.04.2015 05:29:07] Rudolf Faix: yes

In the above communication Kshitij Tripathi proofs that he is even not able to use Google for searching and verifying offers. He even has been thinking that I'll do it for him for the reason that he is too lazy for it. Instead of taking a look at the provided links he thinks that it easier to ask me for campaigns on Skype.

[06.05.2015 12:13:15] KT Robby: hello sir
[06.05.2015 12:13:16] KT Robby: der
[06.05.2015 12:13:47] Rudolf Faix: Good afternoon
[06.05.2015 12:13:56] Rudolf Faix: How are you?
[06.05.2015 12:14:08] KT Robby: i am doing great sir, what about you
[06.05.2015 12:14:23] Rudolf Faix: Thanks, I'm ok too
[06.05.2015 12:14:45] KT Robby: actually i just send an offical mail to kathy sisk regarding the campaign but still i ahvnt got any reply
[06.05.2015 12:15:27] Rudolf Faix: I have not more information from them as I have published
[06.05.2015 12:15:39] KT Robby: okay
[06.05.2015 12:15:58] KT Robby: any new updates for the genuine clients
[06.05.2015 12:16:17] Rudolf Faix: In this case I would publish them
[06.05.2015 12:17:38] Rudolf Faix: I see only that the NDA from Kathy Sisk got 150 times downloaded until now. That are a lot of requests
[06.05.2015 12:18:04] KT Robby: so i need to work with kathy, correct
[06.05.2015 12:18:30] Rudolf Faix: If you not find some better campaigns
[06.05.2015 12:18:53] KT Robby: ok sir
[06.05.2015 12:19:33] Rudolf Faix: I only list the good offers. I don't have anything from it.
[06.05.2015 12:20:55] KT Robby: tnku so much, i was just requesting you kindly if u can forward a mail from your side on the behalf of me for campaign so that will be my pleasure on working with kathy sisk and i will also help you in finding scammers
[06.05.2015 12:21:40] Rudolf Faix: I have no influence to Kathy Sisks
[06.05.2015 12:22:12] Rudolf Faix: or another person from my blog. I make this only for not getting bored during my retirement
[06.05.2015 12:22:39] KT Robby: ok but u know the point is that they are many appoinmnet for centres reach to kathy
[06.05.2015 12:23:02] Rudolf Faix: Yes, I know it from the downloads from my blog

Depending the on the way he tried to get campaigns from a real broker like Kathy Sisk Enterprises, he will get an answer or not. Normally are marketing agencies not entertaining some campaign brokers from abroad. There are so many call centers available, which are searching for some campaigns that there is no need to hire some people for reselling their campaigns. Campaigns are for call centers free of charge. There is no need to pay for someone, who is only additional announcing real campaigns.

[06.05.2015 12:39:42] KT Robby: hey
[06.05.2015 12:40:24] KT Robby: i ahve got a scammer , i am sendind details in your mail with there ip and everything, i just personally chat with her, she was trying to scam me
[06.05.2015 12:41:00] Rudolf Faix: ok, send it to rudolffaix@gmail.com
[06.05.2015 12:42:17] KT Robby: rfx53@gmx.at
[06.05.2015 12:42:23] KT Robby: sir this is your mail id
[06.05.2015 12:43:40] Rudolf Faix: you can send it to rfx53@gmx.at too
[06.05.2015 12:47:37] KT Robby: i just send u all the details in your rudolffaix@gmail.com check out
[06.05.2015 12:47:54] Rudolf Faix: ok
[06.05.2015 12:56:24] Rudolf Faix: Typical scam from Africa. In this case from Senegal
[06.05.2015 12:56:41] KT Robby: yup
[06.05.2015 12:56:44] KT Robby: from senegal
[06.05.2015 12:57:11] KT Robby: she was trying to scam asking for money
[06.05.2015 12:57:17] KT Robby: its a big one
[06.05.2015 12:57:46] KT Robby: actually my brother is working for indian cyber security
[06.05.2015 12:57:47] Rudolf Faix: This scam is already known since 20 years
[06.05.2015 12:57:53] KT Robby: okay
[06.05.2015 12:58:10] KT Robby: so we just report to cyber cell also
[06.05.2015 12:58:37] Rudolf Faix: Sure, you can report it where ever you like
[06.05.2015 12:58:58] Rudolf Faix: Mostly is sent from hacked email accounts

This time he got really a scam email, but this emails are getting sent out in masses and everybody on the Internet knows this kind of scam already and it did not have anything to do with call centers.

Now it is coming interesting:

[29.08.2015 05:39:46] KT Robby: hello sir
[29.08.2015 05:39:50] KT Robby: how are you
[29.08.2015 05:39:54] KT Robby: i need your help
[29.08.2015 06:34:28] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
Please write your questions
[29.08.2015 06:42:10] KT Robby: sir i was working with mako marketing lls and they tuk my $3515 and get sales of one and half month and blamed me that i am editing the calls
[29.08.2015 06:42:45] Rudolf Faix: Is mako marketing an Indian company?
[29.08.2015 06:42:51] KT Robby: i am really a poor boy any how i started my business just to take rent from my friendz so i was not aware of the rules of paypal
[29.08.2015 06:42:56] KT Robby: its usa company
[29.08.2015 06:43:30] Rudolf Faix: Real USA or only an US address?
[29.08.2015 06:43:44] Rudolf Faix: Check it with the IP addresses of the emails
[29.08.2015 06:44:13] KT Robby: so in the beginning paypal hold my payment so i thought no problem they told me to reverse the payment to the person to whom you are getting payment so i refund my four months payment and he took my whole payment az i make solution of getting payment
[29.08.2015 06:44:47] KT Robby: this is us company a famous company of boca raton , florida
[29.08.2015 06:44:59] KT Robby: omar solari and italo solari both are brothers
[29.08.2015 06:45:14] Rudolf Faix: I don't know this company, but you can file a complaint at the FTC
[29.08.2015 06:45:46] KT Robby: i reqiested him a lot that please refund my those payments wchich you already been paid but he started saying i am talking to my client and all rubbish and dan he blocked me
[29.08.2015 06:45:57] Rudolf Faix: Omar and Italo are not US names.Omar is Arabic. Italo I have never heard
[29.08.2015 06:46:00] KT Robby: you can search www.makomarketing .net
[29.08.2015 06:46:21] KT Robby: yes they are spainish and living in usa trust me
[29.08.2015 06:47:10] KT Robby: please help me because you are the only one who can help me ;; i want to amke a successful person but he stopped my dreams and everything finish
[29.08.2015 06:48:20] KT Robby: my family and no1 is supporting me only i know hw i am survivng ;; i reuuested hima lot that please refund my paymnet wchich you already been paid to em ;ll you already have tuk sales of one and half month dunn give me that payment but he denied and started telling me false promises
[29.08.2015 06:49:07] Rudolf Faix: one moment
[29.08.2015 06:49:40] Rudolf Faix: File your complaint at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
[29.08.2015 06:49:46] KT Robby: whenhe knews that now i got solution of getting $3515 dan on the next day he told me that you were editing the calls and started forcing mem
[29.08.2015 06:49:57] KT Robby: am i will be getting any response on this isr
[29.08.2015 06:50:00] KT Robby: sir
[29.08.2015 06:50:37] Rudolf Faix: You have only the chance to get the case solved if you are filing a complaint at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
[29.08.2015 06:50:56] KT Robby: okay
[29.08.2015 06:51:03] KT Robby: and you cnat do nothing
[29.08.2015 06:51:55] Rudolf Faix: I can only list them as a scammer. This will not bring your money back
[29.08.2015 06:53:05] Rudolf Faix: You need to send your proves to the FTC. They will make a decision on it. It is cheaper to file it by yourself to the FTC than to hire an attorney
[29.08.2015 06:53:16] KT Robby: but please list them they are millionaire one if they gave my little money nothing gone of dam ;; i know how much i work hard and they destroyed my dreams and due to dam
[29.08.2015 06:53:30] KT Robby: can i call you for a while sir
[29.08.2015 06:53:48] Rudolf Faix: My Internet is slow at the moment
[29.08.2015 06:54:02] KT Robby: ok
[29.08.2015 06:55:06] Rudolf Faix: This guy can help you too:
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[29.08.2015 06:55:41] Rudolf Faix: He is advertising "If an US client owns you money I can help"
[29.08.2015 06:55:52] Rudolf Faix: He helped already a few centers

For the case that he got really scammed from Mako Markeing LLC, then he did not make any background check about his client. In this case it seems that he has trusted only to the explanations from Omar and Italo Solari. Not one real millionaire will tell you that he is a millionaire. If he would have made a simple Google search he would have found at least one red flag about them in the Call Centers Forum:

User: JackJill
Date: 24-04-2014, 12:43 PM
I want to spread this info: Blacklist Mako Marketing LLC operated by Italo Solari and Omar Solari. These guys are fraud. They will not honor their payment obligations to call centers. Spread the word. The international call center community should be warned against them. Do not trust them. I will not waste my time with this if we were not defrauded by these persons. I just want to warn all other call centers who may be their current or future victims.

It seems that Kshitij Tripathi has been too lazy to make a simple Google search or too credulous.

It even does not help if he repeats his accusations if he will not send me any proof for the scam. Without any offers, links to offers and profile, copy of contracts, etc. I'll not do something, because the complaint can be a fake too and I don't let myself get used for a private war. I told Kshitij Tripathi already during August where he can get some help in his case. It seems that he did nothing because at the authorities he has to provide some proofs too. For this reason I think that he has the case only and tried to repeat his allegations in the month November:

[19.11.2015 22:52:36] KT Robby: hello
[19.11.2015 22:52:46] KT Robby: sir
[20.11.2015 06:01:30] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[20.11.2015 06:06:24] KT Robby: I am doing gr 8 si r
[20.11.2015 06:06:26] KT Robby: howare you
[20.11.2015 06:06:52] Rudolf Faix: I'm ok. Not one scammer tried to kill me until now. :)
[20.11.2015 06:08:11] KT Robby: ohhh
[20.11.2015 06:09:33] Rudolf Faix: From time to time I need some fresh meat for feeding the homeless cats here. Normally I'm putting a scammer on the grill for them. :)
[20.11.2015 06:09:43] KT Robby: ohhh
[20.11.2015 06:09:45] KT Robby: gr8
[20.11.2015 06:09:53] KT Robby: (nazar)
[20.11.2015 06:10:42] KT Robby: do you remember earlier I discussed to you regarding my payment dt I was scammed by usa client named omar c solari owner of mako marketing llc
[20.11.2015 06:11:07] KT Robby: recently he also scammed one more person as I know
[20.11.2015 06:11:25] KT Robby: dancho krisvim ; she discussed to you on behalf of me
[20.11.2015 06:12:18] Rudolf Faix: To write an article about him I need some facts like campaign offer, links to the offers, links to the profile, etc. You can send me these details to rudolffaix@gmail.com
[20.11.2015 06:12:31] KT Robby: ok sir thanks a lot
[20.11.2015 06:12:49] KT Robby: usually he works with 3-4 months and after dy he tuk payment and never send
[20.11.2015 06:14:10] Rudolf Faix: In this case would be copies about payments good too. and about the return request, etc. Everything which is documenting the scam is helpful
[20.11.2015 06:14:56] KT Robby: how he scammed me
[20.11.2015 06:15:31] Rudolf Faix: As more documentation I get from you as easier is it to write an article
[20.11.2015 06:16:30] Rudolf Faix: In the most cases I can see the scam already in the offer, but in some cases I need to get more. It depends on the kind of the scam
[20.11.2015 06:16:43] KT Robby: I was getting payment in my paypal account but anyhow paypal stopped my payment so the payment of whole 4 month was in my paypal account an dthe whle savings around $5000 and paypal toled me you have two options that either you need ot wait for 6 months dan automatically paymen will transfer to your bank account otherwise you can send the payment to the person whom you got
[20.11.2015 06:17:32] KT Robby: and as I send the payment in his paypal account he just said that you were making mistake sin calls and he tuk all my savings
[20.11.2015 06:17:50] KT Robby: and just due t him I am not able to stand up
[20.11.2015 06:18:01] KT Robby: he tuk my all savings
[20.11.2015 06:18:47] Rudolf Faix: The reader,, which are not involved into the details, need to understand it too.

The mail from paypal will help too in documenting the system.

Wh did you not wait the security time from paypal. Why you sent it back?
[20.11.2015 06:19:35] KT Robby: I needed of money cz there were many expenses so I thought I will transfer the funds into his account an di will us eothe rmode for getting the money
[20.11.2015 06:19:45] KT Robby: but he just tuk my whole savings ;; si r
[20.11.2015 06:20:32] Rudolf Faix: That has been to expect. If you are sure that you are right then never send some money back.
[20.11.2015 06:20:43] KT Robby: he is very rich person dan why did he do this ;;; nothing gone on taking my money but everything gone of mine
[20.11.2015 06:21:05] Rudolf Faix: Are you sure that he is a rich person?
[20.11.2015 06:21:14] KT Robby: he is miaalionair e
[20.11.2015 06:21:23] Rudolf Faix: You can even find beggars on the street in Florida
[20.11.2015 06:21:43] Rudolf Faix: You'll find there people sleeping on the street
[20.11.2015 06:21:45] KT Robby: mako marketing llc
[20.11.2015 06:21:56] KT Robby: ths is his company
[20.11.2015 06:22:21] Rudolf Faix: A company does not guarantee an income. You can create a company there for less than Us$100
[20.11.2015 06:22:23] KT Robby: he is running 300+ centres in world
[20.11.2015 06:22:33] Rudolf Faix: Have you verified it?
[20.11.2015 06:22:42] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:23:12] Rudolf Faix: Did you call all the centers and he has provided you the phone numbers?
[20.11.2015 06:23:30] KT Robby: yes I have his all the details sir
[20.11.2015 06:24:34] Rudolf Faix: I have in Austria around 2000 phone numbers free, which I can use. If you like you can call me too. Especially I'll enjoy if you are calling me on premium numbers. :)
[20.11.2015 06:25:20] Rudolf Faix: If you like to hear different voices - no problem I can switch you to different call center agent too
[20.11.2015 06:25:24] KT Robby: please help me sir
[20.11.2015 06:25:42] Rudolf Faix: Do you see how the scam works by this example?
[20.11.2015 06:25:49] KT Robby: you are th eone who can help me
[20.11.2015 06:25:53] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 06:26:23] Rudolf Faix: I have even phone numbers from the state of NY
[20.11.2015 06:26:31] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:26:41] KT Robby: so any solution for getting the money
[20.11.2015 06:26:58] Rudolf Faix: FTC - Federal Trade Commission
[20.11.2015 06:27:05] KT Robby: what they will do
[20.11.2015 06:27:12] KT Robby: there are many cases running on
[20.11.2015 06:27:17] KT Robby: one more will add
[20.11.2015 06:27:44 | Bearbeitet 06:28:07] Rudolf Faix: Your problem is only that you have sent the money back. That means you have agreed with the complaint to Paypal. So your chance to get the money back will be nearly zero
[20.11.2015 06:28:10] KT Robby: but I have prrof of paypal dt I sne dmoney to omar account
[20.11.2015 06:29:22] Rudolf Faix: He made a complaint to paypal. Paypal told him that he need to file a court case. For this they have locked the amount.
You sent the money back and for this he even don't need to file a court case
[20.11.2015 06:29:49] Rudolf Faix: You have given him the money and have accepted the complaint he made at paypal
[20.11.2015 06:30:07] KT Robby: he didn't made any complaint to paypal
[20.11.2015 06:30:25] Rudolf Faix: In this case paypal would not lock the amount
[20.11.2015 06:30:41] KT Robby: can I call you si r
[20.11.2015 06:31:06] Rudolf Faix: Paypal amounts are normally available after a few days you'll receive them.
[20.11.2015 06:31:16] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:32:09] KT Robby: I mean I have mail copies of the payment wchich I refund to omar account
[20.11.2015 06:32:17] Rudolf Faix: It does not bring anything to call me. I need to have first the documentation of the case. Without the documentation is everything I can say only speculation
[20.11.2015 06:32:44] KT Robby: he seriously killed me completely
[20.11.2015 06:32:52] KT Robby: just due to him I am not able to stand
[20.11.2015 06:33:00] Rudolf Faix: I have only explained you the right situation and how it is interpreted in front of law court when you send money back to someone
[20.11.2015 06:33:17] KT Robby: so I need ot file complaint to ftc
[20.11.2015 06:33:24] Rudolf Faix: For the situation now you are guilty by yourself
[20.11.2015 06:33:31] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 06:33:36] Rudolf Faix: You can file a complaint against him
[20.11.2015 06:33:52] Rudolf Faix: You can take a debt collector
[20.11.2015 06:34:02] Rudolf Faix: That are now your possibilities.
[20.11.2015 06:34:08] KT Robby: how I will get it
[20.11.2015 06:34:30] Rudolf Faix: The chance to get it will be very low because you sent the money back
[20.11.2015 06:35:15] Rudolf Faix: You would be in a better shape if paypal would have taken it back on his complaint
[20.11.2015 06:35:34] KT Robby: but I hve the proof of my paypal wchich I refund to omar paypal account the whole amount an drecs of paypal supervisor in wchich he said payment has been send to his account
[20.11.2015 06:35:59] KT Robby: can paypal take it back again from omar
[20.11.2015 06:36:02] Rudolf Faix: But with this proof you have accepted that you got the amount in an error
[20.11.2015 06:36:09] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:36:18] KT Robby: s I will be getting this paymen t
[20.11.2015 06:36:20] Rudolf Faix: No, because you have sent it back already
[20.11.2015 06:36:49] Rudolf Faix: I think you need to proceed to a law court. That will take a lot of time
[20.11.2015 06:37:51] Rudolf Faix: I hope that you have some evidence about your work that you have better chances against him in front of law court. Evidences are for example call recordings
[20.11.2015 06:38:13] KT Robby: and now dze days is der any campaigns providers from your eyes those are working fine and sending payment properly so I ca run my home
[20.11.2015 06:38:20] KT Robby: yes I have all the evidences
[20.11.2015 06:38:31] KT Robby: i have recording on speaking with omar for payment
[20.11.2015 06:38:49] Rudolf Faix: OK, that will help you,
[20.11.2015 06:39:24] KT Robby: so i need to complaint to ftc
[20.11.2015 06:39:25] Rudolf Faix: There is kathysiskenterprises.com, ianmhaines.co.uk
[20.11.2015 06:40:52] Rudolf Faix: Yes, you need to file a complaint to ftc and you can try the service from Steve Mertensmeyer https://www.linkedin.com/in/myrsdebtcollectorsinc
[20.11.2015 06:41:16] KT Robby: i forward him msg on linked but dint get any reply
[20.11.2015 06:41:32] KT Robby: ianmhaines.co.uk
[20.11.2015 06:41:40] KT Robby: dts the name of company
[20.11.2015 06:41:53] Rudolf Faix: That is the link to his homepage
[20.11.2015 06:42:06] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:43:28] Rudolf Faix: The email of the debt collector Steve Mertensmeyer is SPMERTENSMEYER@MYRSCREDIT.COM
[20.11.2015 06:43:39] KT Robby: ok si r
[20.11.2015 06:43:46] KT Robby: how is dep blue marketing
[20.11.2015 06:43:54] KT Robby: lars b chriatsnsen
[20.11.2015 06:44:27] Rudolf Faix: He is ok too, His campaigns are promoted on my site as "Fair campaign offers"
[20.11.2015 06:44:38] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:44:58] Rudolf Faix: Would I promote a scammer in Fair Campaign offers?
[20.11.2015 06:45:23] KT Robby: no neve r
[20.11.2015 06:45:41] Rudolf Faix: So you have given the answer to your question by yourself
[20.11.2015 06:46:15] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:46:49] KT Robby: but i hope you can understand how they cheat people ;; we wrk very hard and he tuk my whole savings
[20.11.2015 06:47:32] Rudolf Faix: Yes, but for writing an article I need to have the documentation to show too.
[20.11.2015 06:47:46] KT Robby: i will give you everything
[20.11.2015 06:48:07] KT Robby: because ei wants everyone know his face cz in every eyes he is very fiar fr payment
[20.11.2015 06:48:22] Rudolf Faix: It is not enough to name someone to be a scammer without any proof. In this case he can bring me in front of the law court
[20.11.2015 06:49:00] Rudolf Faix: In Europe and U,S. is the law working very well
[20.11.2015 06:49:11] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:49:25] Rudolf Faix: I cannot simple disappear like the people in India
[20.11.2015 06:49:55] Rudolf Faix: Even if it would be possible, I don't like to start from the beginning again.
[20.11.2015 06:50:39] KT Robby: in india i would like to ask you i am getting many mails for back office campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:50:53] KT Robby: and the consultacies are charging upfront
[20.11.2015 06:51:10] Rudolf Faix: Every upfront is only SCAM
[20.11.2015 06:51:21] KT Robby: so in your views is der any good consultacy in india whom i can deal
[20.11.2015 06:51:32] Rudolf Faix: The client has to pay the broker because he has hired him
[20.11.2015 06:51:33] KT Robby: cz they are giving back office campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:51:49] KT Robby: yes ;; you are right sir
[20.11.2015 06:52:20] Rudolf Faix: No, you'll not find one real broker in India. Not one client will hire a broker from India or another low wage country
[20.11.2015 06:53:47] KT Robby: so is der any person in your knowledge whom i can deal for back office campaigns so i can run my life on track ;; please just help me for this cz you must be aware of these people
[20.11.2015 06:54:12] KT Robby: any back office campign wchich i can get from offshore country from any person wchich you knows
[20.11.2015 06:54:54] Rudolf Faix: There are no back office campaigns available because consumer/customer data are protected by law and nobody will give you access to it
[20.11.2015 06:55:26] KT Robby: okay sir
[20.11.2015 06:56:03] Rudolf Faix: For this reason you'll not find any offer without upfront and upfronts are nothing else than SCAMs
[20.11.2015 06:56:13] KT Robby: and any inbound for you know any bo cz you will be in touch of many big people so i can get
[20.11.2015 06:56:16] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:56:41] Rudolf Faix: What can you do with an inbound caller if you not have access to his data?
[20.11.2015 06:57:00] KT Robby: i am talking about inbound campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:57:11] KT Robby: any small campign with 10-20 seaters
[20.11.2015 06:57:33] Rudolf Faix: Yes I know and I have written about an inbound caller!
[20.11.2015 06:58:21] KT Robby: i mean there are many inbound call cntre in indai those are working for usa
[20.11.2015 06:58:28] Rudolf Faix: The same reason why there are no backoffice campaigns available are no inbound campaigns available
[20.11.2015 07:00:16] Rudolf Faix: Not one center from India has an Inbound campaign. Since 1998 is the consumer data protection law available, Each company would get fined with US$ 16,000 per customer record they give you access. AT&T has paid for such a failure US$ 25,000,000 fine
[20.11.2015 07:00:35] Rudolf Faix: Do you think anyone will take such a risk?
[20.11.2015 07:00:57] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 07:01:14] KT Robby: but in new delhi many inbound for uk and usa are running
[20.11.2015 07:01:20] Rudolf Faix: Than you need to search for such an idiot
[20.11.2015 07:01:25] KT Robby: smaal call centres and big centres
[20.11.2015 07:01:32] KT Robby: not like that sor
[20.11.2015 07:01:34] KT Robby: sir
[20.11.2015 07:01:48] Rudolf Faix: UK has fines of € 58,000 per case
[20.11.2015 07:01:53] KT Robby: omg
[20.11.2015 07:02:07] KT Robby: :O
[20.11.2015 07:02:24] Rudolf Faix: So that are nothing else than big lies - the centers which are working on inbound campaigns
[20.11.2015 07:02:58] Rudolf Faix: Remaining Europe (except UK) has fines of € 50,000 per case for giving consumer data out
[20.11.2015 07:05:13] Rudolf Faix: With Europe I mean the European Union. Switzerland is not a member of the European Union, but there the company owner even faces the sieved air in prison for giving consumer data out
[20.11.2015 07:05:30] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 07:05:41] KT Robby: so you mean i can never open an inbound
[20.11.2015 07:06:01] Rudolf Faix: Never because you'll not get access to the data
[20.11.2015 07:06:14] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 07:06:19] Rudolf Faix: The only valid and possible campaign is lead generation
[20.11.2015 07:06:29] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 07:06:35] KT Robby: whom i can delal with
[20.11.2015 07:06:45] KT Robby: Kathy sisk and ian haimes
[20.11.2015 07:06:57] Rudolf Faix: I have given you already all the 3 brokers which I know
[20.11.2015 07:07:02] KT Robby: ok sir
[20.11.2015 07:07:08] Rudolf Faix: Lars you have forgotten in your list
[20.11.2015 07:07:16] KT Robby: hahaaaaaaaaaaa
[20.11.2015 07:07:47] Rudolf Faix: Maybe there are some more out there, but I don't know them
[20.11.2015 07:07:59] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 07:09:11] Rudolf Faix: Outsourcing is dead already, So you'll not find a lot of brokers. The scammers and the greediness of the center owners have destroyed the outsourcing industry already
[20.11.2015 07:09:27] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 07:09:30] KT Robby: you are right
[20.11.2015 07:09:50] Rudolf Faix: The center have traded their data and for this the law got changed
[20.11.2015 07:10:11] Rudolf Faix: That has been the start of the end from the outsourcing industry
[20.11.2015 07:10:44] Rudolf Faix: More than phone directory data are not available for anybody world wide

The above communication shows only that Kshitij Tripathi has not capable of learning. He even don't try the ways of law, which I suggested to him, for getting the money back. That shows that it is not his own money he has lost and he cannot provide any proofs. He expect that other are doing his work and he needs to take only the money. Afterwards he complaints about getting called to be a scammer.

[25.05.2016 05:50:10] KT Robby: hello gm
[25.05.2016 05:50:11] KT Robby: sir
[25.05.2016 05:50:17] KT Robby: here is kshitij tripathi
[25.05.2016 05:50:33] KT Robby: whom abhishek make post about me regarding his scammer friend arib ahmed khan
[25.05.2016 05:50:36] KT Robby: need tot alk you
[25.05.2016 05:50:43] KT Robby: and elt you knwo the whole stiry
[25.05.2016 05:51:08] KT Robby: thye are blaming my name only reason my friend joe johnson has caught them on doing scamming

I have counted during a Google search in the year 2016 9 complaints from different centers posted on different platforms against the Scammer: apostotlebpo.in - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma in the year 2016. Don't forget that the year 2016 is until now only 6 months old. For a detailed list simple read the article Scammer: apostotlebpo.in - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma. This fact shows us that the scammer is Kshitij Tripathi and not someone else.

 

Scammer: Deepankar Sharma - ialfatech.com - alfabrotherscapital.com - rxpaymaster.com - bpo-system.com
by Rudolf Faix Friday, February 26, 2016 12:42 PM

Deepankar Sharma LinkedIn profile pictureThe scammer Deepankar Sharma (.pdf) has been crying to me like "please stop me scamming" or he has been so stupid to show me that he is really a scammer. Both is possible, because in earlier communications he had already shown that he is even too stupid to start a computer from a DVD. With other words the scammer Deepankar Sharma, which calls himself at his LinkedIn profile to be a BPO consultant, don't know which software he can use for call center (he asked me on Skype for it) and which VoIP provider is offering a good service (he asked me on Skype for it earlier) and seems to be in need to read instructions for going to the toilet. Such a guy is never a BPO consultant or a call center owner. He is even for scamming too stupid or too lazy.

In any case the scammer Deepankar Sharma has tried to verify his scam campaigns with my help. The problem is only that he got an unexpected result and a free promotion at my blog.

The scammer Deepankar Sharma provides to phone numbers from India at his Skype profile - +918871384948 and +919074105850:

Skype profile of Deepankar Sharma

Here is my Skype conversation with the scammer. I have marked the important information red and interrupted the communications with my comments:

[25.02.2016 19:00:19] deepankarsharma: Hello sir
[25.02.2016 19:00:21] deepankarsharma: How ru
[25.02.2016 19:00:41] deepankarsharma: One of person from florida offer me inbound they are not charging me anything
[25.02.2016 19:00:57] deepankarsharma: They give me commision 20% per sale
[25.02.2016 19:01:23] deepankarsharma: And i dnt knw much about inbound pls tell me
[25.02.2016 22:36:16] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
Thanks, I'm fine, I hope you are fine too
Be very carefully with the offer, because he is not able to give you accesss to any customer data for the reason of the customer protection law.
[03:41:49] deepankarsharma: http://www.ialfatech.com/
[03:42:01] deepankarsharma: Company website
[03:43:15] deepankarsharma: Tanim ovi the person name
[03:49:03] Rudolf Faix: This website is 167 Days old
The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
The website appears to be less than six months old
[03:54:38] Rudolf Faix: The website has maybe a visitor once a month - http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ialfatech.com#trafficstats
[03:55:07] Rudolf Faix: No other sites are linking to this site
[03:56:04] Rudolf Faix: The name Tanim Ovi is not from an U.S, person
[03:56:21] deepankarsharma: He is from
[03:57:12] deepankarsharma: One more person are there is Malvin
[03:57:14] deepankarsharma: Can you ping me +1-239-285-9143

Nice from Deepankar Sharma to provide his VoIP number from the United States. We'll find that he has even used this phone number for the domain registration for his scam domains and provided at some websites, but let us continue the game and let us see how it is going on.

[03:57:17] Rudolf Faix: That sounds like he is somewhere from Asia, maybe China
[03:57:20] deepankarsharma: That is no
[03:58:26] Rudolf Faix: Funny is their first info contact address "billing@ialfatech.com". That sounds not really good

Wow, it seems that someone has been under drugs as he is using the bookkeeping department as first customer contact. That shows already that the company is not really trustful because the most request are coming about their billing.

[03:58:32] deepankarsharma: Malvin Alfaro is the another guy
[04:01:20] Rudolf Faix: The domain is registered to Malvin Alfaro. It seems that his source is Italy or Spain (from the name). That does not say that he is not U.S: citizen
[04:01:56] Rudolf Faix: You'll find a lot of people with European and Chinese source in the U.S.,
[04:02:55] Rudolf Faix: The registrant email of the domain is: anuj.kamlesh@gmail.com. That sounds very strong like a name from India
[04:03:29] deepankarsharma: Yes
[04:03:36] Rudolf Faix: Domain Name: IALFATECH.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1959242128_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-09-11T15:29:16Z
Creation Date: 2015-09-11T15:29:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-09-11T15:29:16Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Melvin Alfaro
Registrant Organization: IALFATECH LLC
Registrant Street: 8891 Brighton Lane Suite 105
Registrant City: Bonita Springs
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 34135
Registrant Country: VN
Registrant Phone: +1.2392859143
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: anuj.kamlesh@gmail.com

We have here the VoIP phone number from the scammer Deepankar Sharma. Remember it from before, where I should call him. Additional we have the provided "other guy" with the name Melvin Alfaro, an address from Florida, which shall be located in the country VN (Vietnam) and the email address from an Indian guy. I think everybody believes that this is are too many failures that it can be a true information.

Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Melvin Alfaro
Admin Organization: IALFATECH LLC
Admin Street: 8891 Brighton Lane Suite 105
Admin City: Bonita Springs
Admin State/Province: Florida
Admin Postal Code: 34135
Admin Country: VN
Admin Phone: +1.2392859143
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: anuj.kamlesh@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Melvin Alfaro
Tech Organization: IALFATECH LLC
Tech Street: 8891 Brighton Lane Suite 105
Tech City: Bonita Springs
Tech State/Province: Florida
Tech Postal Code: 34135
Tech Country: VN
Tech Phone: +1.2392859143
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: anuj.kamlesh@gmail.com
Name Server: NS65.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS66.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-02-26T3:00:00Z <<<
[04:03:39] deepankarsharma: That name,is indian name
[04:04:50] deepankarsharma: How can i identify that he is genuine or,not
[04:04:58] Rudolf Faix: There is a failure in the registration data too. Registrant Country: VN
Vietnam is not getting found in the US
[04:05:17] Rudolf Faix: The address is a fake
[04:07:41] Rudolf Faix: The provided phone is a mobile phone with provider sprint
[04:08:45] Rudolf Faix: http://m7lqw.s3-website-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/239-285-9143
[04:09:42] Rudolf Faix: The owner of the phone is:
Alfa Brothers Construction
Phone: (239) 285-9143
Fax: (239) 215-8481
Email: mdalfaro@alfabrotherscapital.com
Office: 15761 Marcello Circle Naples, FL 34110
Contractor's License: CRC1331059
[04:11:42] Rudolf Faix: The website from alfabrotherscapital.com has no content about their business
[04:16:35] deepankarsharma: Ok
[04:17:48] Rudolf Faix: The domain got registered on May 27, 2015 and has until now no content
[04:20:40] Rudolf Faix: Why someone from the US shall register a domain in Denmark and does not use it for one year? It is very suspicious
[04:21:31] Rudolf Faix: http://www.ascio.com/whois/show.php?domain=alfabrotherscapital.com
[04:23:44] Rudolf Faix: Here you'll find their real website: http://alfabrotherscapital.weebly.com/
[04:48:16] deepankarsharma: Thanks sir
[04:48:29] Rudolf Faix: you are welcome
[04:49:59] deepankarsharma: Sir i told u before that one of person offer me pharma campaign
[04:50:00] deepankarsharma: http://www.rxpaymaster.com/
[04:50:35] deepankarsharma: Is website and one of us consultant refer me skype id
[04:52:47] deepankarsharma: Here i am sending u some screen shot
[04:52:55] deepankarsharma: Valerie RX
[04:53:11] deepankarsharma: She edu me about pharma campaign
[04:53:23] deepankarsharma: And she also refer,me,one person name Simon miller
[04:54:11] deepankarsharma: Pls check,this is genuine or,not
[04:56:00] Rudolf Faix: The domain rxpaymaster.com does not sound like from a pharma company. The site is protected by a privacy service and only 285 days old
[04:56:33] Rudolf Faix: The site is hosted in Sweden. Very seldom will host an US company abroad
[04:56:59] deepankarsharma: Ok so wht is all about
[04:58:49] Rudolf Faix: http://www.rxpaymaster.com/ is nothing else than a MLM system. The most of these systems are nothing else than fraud or scam
[04:59:22] Rudolf Faix: You can sign up without someone and work for yourself. You need not someone from them.
[05:00:11] deepankarsharma: Ok
[05:01:07] deepankarsharma: Simon miller give me two portal sales and commission portal
[05:01:46] deepankarsharma: http://www.bpo-system.com/logon/logon.php
[05:01:47] deepankarsharma: Login id deepankarsharma4
[05:01:51] Rudolf Faix: That you get by signing up without simon miller too
[05:01:55] deepankarsharma: Password 12345
[05:02:26] Rudolf Faix: The password says already everything about their system :)
[05:02:36] deepankarsharma: https://statistics.bpo-system.com/login
[05:03:04] deepankarsharma: This password i reset
[05:03:05] deepankarsharma: Sir

Not only the password has been very suspicious, there is more suspicious that the domain rxpaymaster.com got created  9 months ago (creation date May 17, 2015) and the "commission portal" domain bpo-system.com is only a few days older than one month (creation date January 21, 2016). Both domains are hidden by a privacy protection service, which does not make them really trustful.

[05:03:26] Rudolf Faix: Don't worry about it
[05:03:40] deepankarsharma: This is genuine
[05:03:54] Rudolf Faix: Hidden domain ownership says already very much
[05:04:05] deepankarsharma: Coz lars might be outsource this campaign
[05:04:10] deepankarsharma: I dnt understand sir
[05:04:51] deepankarsharma: I am very much worried if is fake then i can stop this or genuine then o can start
[05:04:52] Rudolf Faix: Do you mean Lars from DBM
[05:05:59] deepankarsharma: Yes i am,not sure that he outsource this same campaign but he also offer same campaign
[05:07:21] deepankarsharma: Wait
[05:07:23] Rudolf Faix: I don't see any Pharma campaign in the offers from Deep Blue Marketing
[05:09:12] deepankarsharma: Please send your mail,id i will forward u lars mail
[05:09:47] Rudolf Faix: Here you have alll open campaigns from DBM: http://deepbluem.com/category/campaigns/
[05:10:07] Rudolf Faix: rudolffaix@gmail.com is my email
[05:11:58] deepankarsharma: Check ur mail sir

The forwarded Email from the scammer Deepankar Sharma (as the email is a fake I'm listing here only the relevant parts, the full email can get seen in the .pdf format):

deep sharma <dtechnocratssolutions@gmail.com> Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:11 AM
To: rudolffaix@gmail.com


Thanks & Regards'
Deepankar Sharma

From: deep sharma
Sent: ‎04-‎02-‎2016 08:31
To: Lars B Christaisnen [camapigns@deepbluem.com]
Subject: RE: Hourly paid B2C US Pharmacy Hot transfer campaign

Thanks for sending me pharma details. I am interested in this campaign please tell me.

Are you provide me traning. ?
Are you provide me script ?
And what is the payout per sale?

Thanks & Regards'
Deepankar Sharma

From: Lars B Christaisnen [camapigns@deepbluem.com]
Sent: ‎03/‎02/‎2016 23:59
To: 'deep sharma'
Subject: RE: Hourly paid B2C US Pharmacy Hot transfer campaign

You see the type mismatch in the email address of Lars Christian if you copy & paste the email address with the right mouse click to another destination. I have copied the mistake near to the name into brakets and marked the type mismatch red for making it visible. For this reason the communication could never happened as the scammer and faker Deepankar Sharma likes to show. I liked that he forwards me the mail headers from this emails, but he could not do it. 

[05:14:44] Rudolf Faix: Maybe the campaign is new.
[05:16:39] deepankarsharma: This is same as mine pharma campaign
[05:17:01] deepankarsharma: Robert Shindoll
[05:17:10] deepankarsharma: Offer me,that campaign
[05:17:19] Rudolf Faix: I'm not sure. The email address has a problem in the mail you forwarded to me
[05:17:57] deepankarsharma: Ok
[05:18:30] Rudolf Faix: can you copy me the headers? Normally you'll find the headers in google near the date. There is an arrow down menu there you can select "show original"
[05:18:44] deepankarsharma: Link your linkdin id one person Robert Shindoll outsource me,this campaign. He is in your,linkdin id also
[05:18:50] deepankarsharma: Might be u knw him
[05:19:03] deepankarsharma: Wair
[05:19:09] deepankarsharma: Wait
[05:19:20] Rudolf Faix: You'll find at my LinkedIn profile a lot of scammers too
[05:22:48] Rudolf Faix: The correct email address is:
campaigns@deepbluem.com
camapigns@deepbluem.com is that what you have sent in your email.
You could even not have a communication with Lars because I have verified the settings on the mailserver
[05:22:54] deepankarsharma: I will send u mail again when i reached to office
[05:23:25] Rudolf Faix: You see the difference in the email address?
[05:23:59] Rudolf Faix: There is even no office email address available
[05:26:02] deepankarsharma: Got it

Are we in the kindergarten that he needs time for producing a new fake? How stupid is this scammer that he even does not get it that he got caught already? Someone like this likes to be a BPO consultant? I think a kindergarten child has more brain than the scammer Deepankar Sharmar. Who shall hire such a stupid consultant? An interested amateur can deliver a better work than this guy.

[05:28:50] Rudolf Faix: The email needed to bounce back in any case
[05:31:21] Rudolf Faix: At the mailserver are only 3 email addresses for deepbluem.com registered. So don't send me any fakes.
[05:31:39] Rudolf Faix: I'll not help you to invent campaigns!
[05:33:16] deepankarsharma: Sir i got this mail so i forward u i dnt knw that fake or,genuine that why i need ur guidance to identify sir
[05:34:27] Rudolf Faix: From: deep sharma <dtechnocratssolutions@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎04-‎02-‎2016 08:31
To: Lars B Christaisnen <camapigns@deepbluem.com>
[05:35:19] Rudolf Faix: From: Lars B Christaisnen <camapigns@deepbluem.com>
Sent: ‎03/‎02/‎2016 23:59
To: 'deep sharma' <dtechnocratssolutions@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Hourly paid B2C US Pharmacy Hot transfer campaign
[05:37:03] deepankarsharma: Sir what u want to say sir.? Sir my intention is,not,to give u fake id sir. I need ur guidance to not been scam thats why i sentt to u
[05:37:27] Rudolf Faix: There is no "RE:"possible.
[05:38:20] deepankarsharma: Ok
[05:38:37] Rudolf Faix: The mailserver does not know a email address camapigns@deepbluem.com. For this is no "RE:" possible
[05:40:21] Rudolf Faix: As you are showing me a communication between you and an non existent email address are you this one which has faked the emails
[05:40:54] deepankarsharma: I dnt knw that mail,id is fake,or,genuine
[05:41:11] deepankarsharma: Sir if i knw this is fake then i never reply that
[05:41:41] deepankarsharma: Thats why i sent u to identity because u knw very well and,ur,more experience from me
[05:41:46] Rudolf Faix: Each domain is running on an mailserver. If a recipient is wrong than the mailserver rejects the email which arrives
[05:42:23] deepankarsharma: Ok
[05:43:06] Rudolf Faix: For this are getting used the domain mailservers and not freemailers for making business
[05:44:15] deepankarsharma: Ok thanks,sir,for,giving me,info,next time when i get mail,from this,mail,id, i will infrom u
[05:45:03] Rudolf Faix: In this case you need to provide the email headers too

The provided U.S.VoIP phone number gets found in the domain registration data of alfabrotherscapital.com, a company which registers a domain and continues to use their weebly hosting. That is not really a good idea. It shows that nobody from the company has any idea about making business and the business is only existing in a dream. Here is a screenshot from http://alfabrotherscapital.weebly.com/contact-us.html with the provided U.S. VoIP phone number from the scammer :

Screenshow from http://alfabrotherscapital.weebly.com/contact-us.html with the provided U.S. VoIP phone number from the scammer Deepankar Sharma

Does anyone believe that one client from the traditional outsourcing countries will hire such an egghead as an consultant? 

Domain registration data from bpo-system.com:

Domain Name: BPO-SYSTEM.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1996153535_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
Updated Date: 2016-01-21T11:46:10Z
Creation Date: 2016-01-21T11:45:44Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-01-21T11:45:44Z
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City: Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province: Queensland
Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
Registrant Country: AU
Registrant Phone: +45.36946676
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: contact@privacyprotect.org
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Admin
Admin Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Admin Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Admin City: Nobby Beach
Admin State/Province: Queensland
Admin Postal Code: QLD 4218
Admin Country: AU
Admin Phone: +45.36946676
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: contact@privacyprotect.org
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Admin
Tech Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Tech Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Tech City: Nobby Beach
Tech State/Province: Queensland
Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218
Tech Country: AU
Tech Phone: +45.36946676
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: contact@privacyprotect.org
Name Server: ns1.ititch.com
Name Server: ns2.ititch.com
Name Server: ns3.ititch.com
Name Server: ns4.ititch.com
DNSSEC:Unsigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@publicdomaingegistry.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-02-26T07:43:28+0000Z<<<

Domain registration data of alfabrotherscapital.com:

Domain Name: alfabrotherscapital.com
Registry Domain ID: 1932855038_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ascio.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2015-05-27T01:58:22Z
Creation Date: 2015-05-26T21:57:55Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-05-27T01:57:55Z
Registrar: Ascio Technologies, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 106
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +44.2070159370
Domain Status: OK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Melvin Alfaro
Registrant Organization: Alfa Brothers Capital
Registrant Street: 1141 24th Ave NE
Registrant Street: FL
Registrant City: Naples
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 34120
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.2392859143
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: mdalfaro2@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Host Master
Admin Organization: One.com
Admin Street: Kalvebod Brygge 24
Admin City: Copenhagen V
Admin State/Province: Copenhagen V
Admin Postal Code: 1560
Admin Country: DK
Admin Phone: +45.46907100
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +45.70205872
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: hostmaster@one.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Host Master
Tech Organization: One.com
Tech Street: Kalvebod Brygge 24
Tech City: Copenhagen V
Tech State/Province: Copenhagen V
Tech Postal Code: 1560
Tech Country: DK
Tech Phone: +45.46907100
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +45.70205872
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: hostmaster@one.com
Name Server: ns01.one.com
Name Server: ns02.one.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-02-26T08:20:14 UTC <<<

Domain registration data of rxpaymaster.com:

Domain Name: rxpaymaster.com
Registry Domain ID: 1929691416_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com
Registrar URL: https://www.namesilo.com/
Updated Date: 2016-02-24
Creation Date: 2015-05-17
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-05-17
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1479
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namesilo.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6024928198
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Registrant Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Registrant City: Phoenix
Registrant State/Province: AZ
Registrant Postal Code: 85016
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3478717726
Registrant Phone Ext: 
Registrant Fax: 
Registrant Fax Ext: 
Registrant Email: pw-3c20910e06cb41455925919ce036ea14@privacyguardian.org
Registry Admin ID: 
Admin Name: Domain Administrator
Admin Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Admin Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Admin City: Phoenix
Admin State/Province: AZ
Admin Postal Code: 85016
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.3478717726
Admin Phone Ext: 
Admin Fax: 
Admin Fax Ext: 
Admin Email: pw-3c20910e06cb41455925919ce036ea14@privacyguardian.org
Registry Tech ID: 
Tech Name: Domain Administrator
Tech Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Tech Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Tech City: Phoenix
Tech State/Province: AZ
Tech Postal Code: 85016
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.3478717726
Tech Phone Ext: 
Tech Fax: 
Tech Fax Ext: 
Tech Email: pw-3c20910e06cb41455925919ce036ea14@privacyguardian.org
Name Server: ns1.rxpaymaster.com
Name Server: ns2.rxpaymaster.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-02-26 01:39:04

 

Advance Billing, Advance Payment and Payout US$ 10/Agent/Hour
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM

Don't worry! We're from the InternetSounds good? Does it not sound too good to be true? Think about it. The center owner needs only to pay the travel costs of the trainer!

You are right. Sure, it is a plain advance fee scam. It is the newest idea from the well-known scammer Christine Wisner. Scam reports about Christine Wisner are getting already found at:

Let us take first a look at the terms the scammers are using for their unbelievable offers:

  • Advance Billing
    A billing is every time in advance and does not include an "advance payment". Nobody will pay before he gets a bill. For this reason is a bill nothing else than a simple form without any value if the bill does not get accepted from the recipient. You don't have any guarantee that the bill will get paid.

    Let us take an example: Even the supermarket cashier makes your bill in advance, before he receives the payment. At this time the supermarket cashier even does not know if you are able to pay the sum. That is called "advance billing". The only difference between the scam offers from the social networks and the supermarket is that the customer has to pay the bill before leaving with the purchased goods the supermarket.

  • Advance Payment
    Let me use the same supermarket example for the "Advance payment". If you enter the supermarket and before you take the shopping cart you have to pay the goods which you like to buy. Afterwards you collect your merchandise and go to the cashier again. The cashier will check if you have not taken more than you have paid in advance. For the case you have taken more than you have paid you need to pay the difference. You'll get some money back for the case you did not find all the goods you liked to buy.

    Would you choose such a supermarket for your daily needs? If your answer is no then ask yourself why someone should be someone so stupid and pay you before you did the work? Do you really think that others are silly? A successful business owner does not give you money as a gift. He is only successful because he knows his business and is not irrational acting.

Only scammers are writing such offers into the social networks and are hoping to find a senseless person which is paying their advance fee (however they are calling it - security deposit, consultancy fee, VoIP costs, etc.):

PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDITED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN STARTEC TELICOM AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.

Startec Telecom, full name Startec Global Communications Corp, shares are getting traded at the NASDAQ. At their NASDAQ profile is written:

STARTEC is a rapidly growing, facilities-based international long distance carrier which markets its services to select ethnic U.S. residential communities that have significant international long distance usage. Additionally, to maximize the efficiency of its network

At Startec's company profile is written:

Building on that tradition, Startec is dedicated to being the leading provider of communication services to communities around the globe. Startec services connect worldwide communities spanning the Pacific Rim, Middle East, North Africa, Russia, Central Europe, and North and South America. We provide our services through a flexible network of owned and leased facilities, operating and termination agreements, and resale arrangements. Startec technology assets include an extensive network of IP gateways, international gateways, domestic switches and ownership in undersea fiber optic cables.

Does anybody believe that such a company hires a broker or consultant from Kolkota, India which is a well-known scammer?

Does anyone believe that such a company like Startec Global Telecom is sending a trainer on the costs of the call center from Hongkong to an unknown call center placed in the area of Hyderabad, India?

Such a business behavior would destroy the reputation of a company. The share values of Startec Global Telecom would in such a case go down to the area of the penny stocks and the responsible person would get fired.

Such a company knows how to hire staff, freelancers and subcontractors. If such a company hires someone than the hired one would get paid from them and not opposite round. As such a company is dealing with VoIP they would even make the recordings by themselves and you would even not have the chance to manipulate or edit them. For this reason and the reasons found above is the offer nothing else than a scam.

This scam gets initiated from Christine Wisner and afterwards she changes her identity to Joslyn March and uses the Skype ID joslyn.paul103. At this profile is written that she is from Toronto, Canada. She likes to get a flight ticket from Hongkong to your place while she is chatting from Kolkota, India. Here is her Skype profile:

Skype profile of the scammer Joslyn March - joslyn.paul103

The picture in the above profile got stolen from a photo model and should hide her real nationality.

By searching at Google for the exact phrase "client can stop the process with out any notice during the first 15 days trial period" I found another offer at the already well-known scammer platform SaveBpo.com:

The complete offer of the "US INBOUND CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE WITH VERY GOOD PAYOUT" campaign (.pdf) is the following:

CAMPAIGN : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE
PAYOUT : $10 / Hour / AGENT
TIMING : 24 X 7
NUMBER OF AGENTS : 10 agents 24 x 7
ADVANCE BILLING : 15 DAYS PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
TRAINING : PROVIDED BY CLIENT ( 5 DAYS ). UNPAID TRAINING
PROCESS DETAILS : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE. INBOUND CALLS AND EMAIL.
CENTRE MUST COVER THE EXPENSE FOR CLIENTS CENTRE VISIT
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDIATED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN xxxxxxxxxx AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.
COMMERCIAL PART IS INVOLVED PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME

Here gets even offered $10 per hour per agent for a not existing campaign. Which support can get given to the caller if the agent cannot get access to the customer database? Remember that AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for copied/stolen customer data during an outsourcing process. Why shall one company take the risk to get fined like AT&T?

The next question is why a company likes to outsource some telemarketing campaigns offshore? The answer is very simple, they like to save money by taking advantage of a lower wage in the offshore country. If we take a look at the average payment for telemarketers in the USA then the offered payment is the same like in the USA. By taking a look at PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States, than we see that the average salary is $10.07 and the minimum is $7.86 (data from September 2015):

PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States - September 2015

By looking at the data above, we see that telemarketers can get hired for less than $8 per hour. So why should hire a company from the U.S. a broker or consultant from India and offer a higher payment for the telemarketers. A company from the United States can hire and fire in the U.S. telemarketers for less and how they need them. Even the fee for the man-in-the-middle, the useless broker or consultant from India, can get saved in such a case.

Additional gets the same campaign under the tite "US Telecom Customer Service Inbound Only One Slot Available" (.pdf) found at the scammer platform BPO Project World from India. At this site shows the scammer how urgent he needs already money, because he writes that only one slot is remaining on this not existing campaign. Additional have even 12 amateur or "like to be" call centers asked for more information.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to http://www.bpoprojectworld.in/us-telecom-customer-service-inbound-only-one-slot-available/ and http://www.savebpo.com/project/us-inbound-customer-care-service-good-payout/ removed as they are already returning error 404 - not found.

 

Important information about non-voice processes (form filling, backoffice, etc.) and inbound campaigns
by Rudolf Faix Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:01 AM

For all, which are still searching for non-voice processes and don't believe that there are no form-filling processes or backoffice work available, I like to give you an actual example for the reason why there are such processes available. The following text is a translation from a press release distributed by the dpa (German Press Agency):

In the so-called "Swissleaks" affair, where client data from the HSBC Private Bank in Geneva got forwarded to authorities from a former HSBC employee, the employee got sentenced to five years.

The judgment of the Swiss Federal Criminal Court in Bellinzona was issued on Friday due to industrial espionage. From further allegations, including breach of commercial confidentiality, the 43-year-old was acquitted. The former employees of HSBC Private Bank, a subsidiary of the British HSBC, had thousands of customer information leaked to the authorities in France. The Bank had spoken of theft and given the loss of data of up to 24,000 customers.

The process was determined by the question of whether the man was an honorable "whistleblower" or an unscrupulous con artist. Based on its data, many celebrities were advised as potential tax evaders in the focus of investigators worldwide. It could not be clearly demonstrated that for the transfer of stolen client data also money flowed.

As you could read above an employee has forwarded customer data to the authorities. Even forwarding data to the authorities is forbidden by law. Think now: Why someone should give you some data and go to jail for it or get high fined? Do you really think that you are more trustfull than government authorities? In this case you should stop taking drugs.

If you are writing into an email or a chat the lie that you had such a process already than you get classified from a real broker as a liar and you'll are getting no information about any available process. Making business is based on trust and nobody can build up trust with someone which is lying. You are even confirming in such a case that you don't have any skills for leading a center.

Fact is that you'll not find any inbound campaign because not one client will give you access to his data. The fines for breaking the data protection law are very high (U.S. $16,000 per record, Europe € 50,000 - € 58,000 per case). One famous case has been AT&T which has paid a fine of $25,000,000 for 280,000 stolen customer records during an outsourcing process. At this time the fines have been cheaper. So why should any client take the risk for getting fined? Normally a broker gets paid from the client who has hired him. As there is no client available the scammer has no other possibility to get money as by selling his dream campaigns to centers.

As you'll find in the social networks offers for non-voice processes and inbound campaigns only against a huge up-front fee is confirming already the scam. It does not make any difference how the fee is getting called. Every work, which is only available against a fee, is nothing else than a SCAM!!!

If you are getting scammed by someone with such or a similar process then you are guilty by yourself because you have been too lazy to inform yourself if the process is possible or not. Your own greed and laziness let you believe that the scammer is trustworthy. In this case you can complaint the scammer and your own stupidity.

If you don't believe the above than use Google and search for "Swissleaks".

 

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Fraud and Scam

Scammer: 9FRAMES INFO SERVICES LLP - 9frramez.com - 9frames.org
by Rudolf Faix Monday, November 23, 2015 10:35 AM

Logo 9frramez Info Service LLPProfile picture of safiya begumRecently I got forwarded a form filling project "US LOAN CUSTOMERS DATA DIGITALIZATION PROCESS". Already the title told me that the project is nothing else than scam. U.S. consumer date are protected by law. Banking data and loan data are high sensible data and are for this reason to get special protected. Public available are normally not more than data found in a phone directory.

The offer is from 9frramez Info Service LLP, which should be an ISO 9001-2008 certified company for the case even the the ISO certification is not a fake too. Their staff member can even not show her own face at her LinkedIn profile. It seems that Safiya Begum (for the case it is her true name) does not like to provide a manhunt picture by herself. The same is valid for their director, which is using at LinkedIn the name "9 frramez" and a graphic instead of a profile picture. The Facebook profile of 9frramez does not look in a better way.

It seems that both are believing that it is enough to promote dream campaigns and get for their inventions huge advanced fees. In any case is the comment interesting with which I got the campaign description forwarded:

Greetings of the day.

 

please find the attachments of the campaign.

These guys have Diwali offer for me in the payment which ill send you in another mail.

To talk about work, when i visited their registered office they showed me the work in the software they going to provide me for the work. I have seen the the software, seen them working on it.

I had searched for their companies master data in mca21.com an Indian government website. I will send those details too.

when i visited one of their vendor(center which is working on their project like other centers) he told me that he paid some amount while getting the project, though there is a delay in the payback, client is paying the bills without fail. He is running a home based BPO where he is living with his family. He showed me the mails of work he's been allotted. his employees are working through team viewer. I had observed everything and didn't find anything to doubt him.

Coming to 9frames they were a bit rude when i asked them for another center details. Previously they used to call me of their own, but now when i called them about the center details they were rude. I just said them "fine then....thank you".

 

Please go through all of them.

Attached has been the project description as pdf-file and the following screenshot:

The above screenshot shows that the data are computer generated and for this reason already stored in a digital way. There is no need for any manually action to convert the data into another format or storage ares. This can be done by converting data on the direct way. Such a data conversion is faster (depending on the system itself will take such a export/import procedure a few minutes and not 11 months like described in the pdf-file) and is 100% error free. In any case is a dataconversion cheaper than any manual workforce.

For this free invented project the scammer likes to get  "SERVICE FEE Rs.2.00 Lakh + (14% Service Tax) for Each 5 Seats or Rs.3.75 Lakh + (14% Service Tax) for Each 10 Seats". I know that scammer don't like to use their brain and they are thinking if they invent a campaign then it needs to be very expensive. But they are even to stupid to invent a campaign for a scam which can hardly get identified, because their brain is not in training.

That they even ar too stupid to remember their own company name gets shown if we take a look at their company registration data:

LLP Master Data
LLPIN AAB-1940
LLP Name 9FRAMES INFO SERVICES LLP
Number of Partners   0
Number of Designated Partners   3
ROC Code RoC-Hyderabad
Date of Incorporation 31/10/2012
Registered Address 4TH FLOOR,FLAT NO.67,D.NO.54-20/5-3/1 OPP.AMMA RESTAURANT,GURUNANAK COLONY MAI N ROAD VIJAYAWADA Srikakulam AP 520008 IN
Email Id 9framesindia@gmail.com
Previous firm/ company details, if applicable  
Total Obligation of Contribution 100000
Main division of business activity to be carried out in India  72
Description of main division Computer and related activities
Date of last financial year end date for which Statement of Accounts and Solvency filed  
Date of last financial year end date for which Annual Return filed  
LLP Status Active

 

Directors/Signatory Details
DIN/PAN Name Begin date End date
0007176218 GIRISH KONDURU 08/05/2015  
0002896002 VARADA RAJYA LAKSHMI 31/10/2012  
0006361436 TULASI KRISHNA VARADA 31/10/2012  

Even at their domain registration they are not able to write their real company name: 

Domain Name: 9FRAMES.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D164739177-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-10-17T00:20:39.00Z
Creation Date: 2012-02-17T06:37:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-17T06:37:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Registrant Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Registrant Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Registrant Street: BSR PLAZA
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: VIJAYAWADA
Registrant State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Registrant Postal Code: 520008
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +1.8662466199
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Admin Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Admin Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Admin Street: BSR PLAZA
Admin Street:
Admin City: VIJAYAWADA
Admin State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Admin Postal Code: 520008
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +1.8662466199
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Tech Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Tech Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Tech Street: BSR PLAZA
Tech Street:
Tech City: VIJAYAWADA
Tech State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Tech Postal Code: 520008
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +1.8662466199
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Name Server: NS1.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
Name Server: NS2.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-08-16T19:42:11.00Z <<<

The second domain registration data 9frramez.com:

Domain Name: 9FRRAMEZ.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1856910805_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-08-17T13:26:04.00Z
Creation Date: 2014-05-01T10:13:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-05-01T10:13:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Registrant Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Registrant Street: BSR PLAZA
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: VIJAYAWADA
Registrant State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Registrant Postal Code: 520008
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +1.8662466199
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Admin Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Admin Street: BSR PLAZA
Admin Street:
Admin City: VIJAYAWADA
Admin State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Admin Postal Code: 520008
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +1.8662466199
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Tech Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Tech Street: BSR PLAZA
Tech Street:
Tech City: VIJAYAWADA
Tech State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Tech Postal Code: 520008
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +1.8662466199
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Name Server: NS1.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
Name Server: NS2.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-08-16T21:21:44.00Z <<<

Update March 12, 2016: A Neelesh tries to impress me with big words:

Hi there!

It was very nice to see about our company that it is a scam on your blog.

We request you to share your address details to proceed legally on this particular issue.

We have completely gone through our previous track and didn't find nothing wrong with our people.

So, that we have escalated the matter to our admin department to take legal action against you.

We really cannot understand, no such person as mentioned in your blog visited our company and no people have behaved rudely with your people.

Anyways, It is better to you to remove the post asap, else we wanted to file suit on you after have confirmed that there was no such wrong things from our end.

Awaiting for your reply.

Regards
Neelesh
9frramez

Author information

Name: Neelesh
E-mail: neelesh.9frramez@gmail.com
IP address: 49.207.255.142
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.87 Safari/537.36 

It seems that Neelesh is even too lazy to look into the full legal disclaimer of this website or into the domain registration data. There he would find my address he is asking for.

Sure, each scammer does not recognize his own fail. The problem is only that 9frames Info Services LLP does not have any client for the offered campaign because loan data are in the U.S. protected by law and the outsourcing client would get fined with US$ 16,000 per record. If we are calculating how many records a center with 5 or 10 seats can enter during one day then we see that the client would pay millions of dollars for each day as a fine. For this reason the complete offshore outsourcing campaign will not make any sense because the client will pay in sum more than to let it typing by the most expensive staff of his own company.

So Neelesh, please file a law court case and bring the evidence that I'm wrong in my opinion. I'll bring you the victims, which got already scammed from from 9framez Info Services LLP.

 

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