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Chandra Gupta - Kreation Next - - likes to make money from scammers
by Rudolf Faix Friday, January 22, 2016 7:18 AM social network logoIf I would take some money to removing some entries from my blog, than I would not be better than the scammer. Making money on this way would lead with the time to scam others or into blackmailing of innocent small business owners. That is not my idea for making money. Before I'll go down to this level I would prefer to be a beggar.

Anyway even such an offer shows that this one, which makes the offer, does not understand the nature and structure of the Internet. In the Internet are a lot of services available which like to archive the content of the web and the authors from websites have no influence on it. Examples are Googles Web Cache, WayBack Machine, etc. It is nearly impossible to remove some content from the Internet as the content gets distributed viral. To get something removed from Google you need to get a court order and in this case it will only get removed from the search result in that country from where the court order is coming from. Google is not the only search engine on the web.

If you get under these conditions an invitation for an offer from a company, which seems to be an Internet service provider and is offering at their website "Professional Web Designing", "SEO Expert Solution", "Online Store in no time", dedicated servers and more, for removing content from your own site under the title "Managing Web Reputation", than you think first about a bad joke, a faked sender or some other fraud instead of a real business. How someone can handle your online reputation if he does not know the basics of the Internet?

Under the above condition I got the following invitation for an offer from Chandra Gupta (19 contacts at LinkedIn) - (LinkedIn profile [14 contacts], Facebook page [83 likes]) by using my web contact form:


This is Chandra Gupta from Kreation Next. We have a few clients who would like to remove their complaints from your website and wants us to manage their web reputation. Before getting them into our contract, we would like a quotation from your end for removal of each link / topic from your website, and also a
contact person/number where we can contact you on it.

Also, if possible please provide quotation on bulk & single link basis. The time required for removal of a link/multiple links (say 50 or more links).

Awaiting your reply.
Thanks in advance


Author information
Name: Chandra Gupta
IP address:
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

The only verified information in a web contact form is the ip address from the sender and the user-agent (the browser used from the user) because that information gets resolved from the web server. All other information are entered from the user itself. the site provides the following geolocation data for the ip address

Geolocation data from IP2Location (Product: DB4 updated on 1/2/2016)
IP Address Country Region City ISP India Delhi Delhi Abts Delhi


Geolocation data from EurekAPI (Product: Pro On-demand API)
IP Address Country Region City ISP India West Bengal Kolkata Airtel Broadband
  Continent Latitude Longitude Organization
  Asia 22.5697 88.3697 Airtel Broadband


Geolocation data from DB-IP (Product: Full updated on 1/3/2015)
IP Address Country Region City ISP IN Delhi New Delhi (okhla Phase Iii) Bharti
  Time Zone Latitude Longitude Organization
  Asia/kolkata 28.5492 77.2687 ABTS DELHI


Geolocation data from (On-demand API)
IP Address Country Region City Postal Code IN West Bengal Kolkata 700001
ISP Hostname Organization
AS24560 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services No Hostname ABTS DELHI,


Geolocation data from MaxMind (Product: GeoLiteCity updated on 1/6/2015)
IP Address Country Region City Postal Code Area Code India 28 Kolkata 700001

As the provided email address is from his domain and the name has been fitting to the domain registry data I have answered the request without offering something. To get an answer back I have invented the wrong information that his company is registered in Dehli and his posting has been done from Kolkata:

Hello Chandra Gupta

I think by reading of the attached mail more on a bad joke than a real offer. The IP address is from Kolkata and your company is registered in Dehli - a distance of 2 hours by airplane.
The message got entered at my website at January 20, 2016 09:36am (GMT+1) into the mail form with the following informations:
Author information
Name: Chandra Gupta
IP address:
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

As expected I got a reply from Chandra Gupta as expected with a confirmation that he has sent the offer request, but the request is not from a real business man,which likes to make some business - it is more the email from someone which did not get what he has expected in his hope:

Von: Chandra Gupta []
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Januar 2016 19:25
An: Rudolf Faix
Betreff: Re: AW: CC Scam e-mail - Qoutation for removal of complaints
Mr. Rudolf Faix,

I think you have got confused somewhere. I mailed you from kolkata, that's true, and also we are from kolkata.

Please refer to the following links for more details:

There are a few things I need to clear about:
1. It doesn't take me a two hours journey to reach my office
2. We are based at kolkata
3. I make jokes with friends and family. And I don't make friends at business or make any joke (good or bad) at business.
4. The research you made on our company is a massive failure.
5. Your spellings are disastrous on the mail.

Finally, If you are interested to talk business please send me a quotation rather than pointing out lame excuses to avoid work.


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My answer to the above email is that I'm not commercial available and my opinions are not for sale. Maybe it is hard to believe for some people without any beliefs as some are thinking that everything is commercial available and the big question is only for which price. I don't belong to this kind of people. I don't like to let me pull down to the same level like scammers. I like to be able to look into the mirror without shame.

Why shall I remove a scammer from my blog? Why shall I make it easier for a scammer to continue with his sham business? Why shall I try to make the online reputation work from Chandra Gupta for a scammer easier? As we are here in real life and not in the kindergarten I see no reason to help some scammers as long as they don't change their own life by coming honest. Small scammers don't have the money for hiring someone to improve their online reputation and these scammers which have enough money for this purpose have gotten it from cheating their hard working victims and not from their own hard work. Would it be fair for a first time scammer, which has no money for getting removed, to prefer the serial and organized scammers only for the reason that they have been successful and are paying some money? That would be like carrying water to the sea for making the sea less salty.

Domain registration data from

Registry Domain ID: 1627347787_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
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Registrar URL:
Update Date: 2016-01-14T07:51:25Z
Creation Date: 2010-11-26T01:56:07Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-11-26T01:56:07Z
Registrar:, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Chandra Gupta
Registrant Organization: Kreation Next
Registrant Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Registrant Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Registrant City: kolkata
Registrant State/Province: West Bengal
Registrant Postal Code: 700006
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9830339013
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Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Chandra Gupta
Admin Organization: Kreation Next
Admin Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Admin Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Admin City: kolkata
Admin State/Province: West Bengal
Admin Postal Code: 700006
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Tech Name: Chandra Gupta
Tech Organization: Kreation Next
Tech Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
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Tech City: kolkata
Tech State/Province: West Bengal
Tech Postal Code: 700006
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How much the owner of the site understands from SEO and Internet marketing gets shown at his own site. The Alexa ranking from shows not really impressing values after the site has been 5 years and 56 Days online. The same quality can expected from his new service "Online Reputation Management" too:

The Alexa daily pageviews are interesting too:

Alexa: How engaged are visitors to

What can you expect more from people, which are using phrases like "Finally, If you are interested to talk business please send me a quotation rather than pointing out lame excuses to avoid work.". Only stupid people are calling pressing a simple "unpublish" or "delete" button "work"! That Chandra Gupta has not invented the work by himself gets shown on his own website and his social networks entries. He likes to earn money only from the work of others.

Update January 24, 2016: Chandra Gupta has submitted an email to me and asked for publishing it as add-on to this article. Here is his email:

Mr. Rudolf Faix,

I found your article on me and my company from your website. I have to agree you are a good writer and your spellings have improved a lot. Still you are missing the spelling of the city "Delhi" & "too"(its not 'Dehli', and you pronounce it as 'Dilli').

I thank you for showing interest in me and my company. I haven't seen a stranger in my entire life who has taken such interest and given so much time and effort to research on my profile and background. I should have given you a hug if you were near.

Some of my clients requested for removal of negative links/comments from other websites. Since I am not in the business of SEO or Reputation Management, I asked them to hold the offer while I complete the cost analysis. Before I get them in a contract I wanted to make sure that I can do it and provide them the best price for their request. As such I requested for a quotation from your side as well as other websites owners & staff. I am not at all interested in what business they do or who are they in their personal life. It takes too much effort and time to do so. And after working(Well by work I include my studies too) for 16 hours a day and 365 days a year, I don't get that much energy to do so.

A simple and small event of "request for a quotation for removal of links from your website" can lead to so much issue that you would take me under the microscope and start making wrong assumptions and portray a different image to the world. I didn't think that such a minute little thing can turn out to be an iceberg, that you will start researching on my website and me and turn me out into a parasite.

Well let me tell you what I exactly do:
1. I sell and configure dedicated servers, VPS servers, proxy servers, email gateways, system monitoring system, etc so that it can perform at an optimum level, safely without any unauthorized access attempts from hackers and spammers.
2. Design customized desktop applications and web applications for my customers.

And this is what I do all by myself with a lot of assistance from Google search. I have a small family and I am satisfied with my small earnings and a happy family.

And it takes a lot of hard work and research to take care of each and every minute detail. And I am really sorry to my business as I haven't taken good care of my website and SEO. I have just completed my website a few days back, but still a few tweaks are pending. Well about SEO, I am not an expert. I need to learn on it a bit before I proceed.

I am still a black dot on a black board and I frankly am not such an important guy that you need to spend so much of your valuable time on me and my life. Though its a wrongly assumed small biography, but still, I haven't grown that big yet.

Though I checked your blog too, it is mostly based on scammers and scams, and some info about some good campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing. I think you are a part of the Deep Blue Marketing Team though (Its only my personal view). And you have been blogging for about a year now on the check your last post). As I assumed your work, you are good with seo and your domain is 20 years old. Don't you think you should be within the top 1000 in alexa, with so much of seo experience?

You have spent so much time and effort on writing blogs on spammers, I fear that you may turn out to be a spammer in future if not already. You know, "We are what we do".

Keep yourself safe and happy.

I am a bit rude sometimes, sorry if I have hurt you in anyway.

Finally, a request though, you may or may not do, its your choice. Add this mail to your blog too and don't forget to comment. And also if possible send me an email when done with the link so that I can check it out.

The risk that I'm start to scam is very low, because I'm not active in business. That means that I'm not offering or selling something. I have been hard working in business for more than 35 years and everything comes one time an end. Now I enjoy my life and take it how it comes.

As I have started in the late 70ths to work in the IT industry in Austria I made the experience that everybody helped each other without any restrictions and without asking for something. It has been a simple helping each other. I have continued this kind of working together during all my active time.

Two years ago I have relocated from Austria to the Philippines. Here I found a friend, which needed to close his call center for the reason of getting scammed. For this reason I have taken a look into the offshore outsourcing industry again and found that nearly all the offers are nothing else than scam. I started December 2014 by commenting and writing against the scammers found at the social networks. Since December 2014 I have found only three campaign brokers, which are offering in a serious way campaigns. The three companies are Kathy Sisk Enterprises (USA), Ian Haines Consulting (UK) and Deep Blue Marketing (DBM) - Lars Christiansen (Denmark, Spain, USA, Dominican Republic). All three are offering campaigns without any upfront payments. They are getting paid from the client for searching call centers which are able to fulfill the requirements of the client and not for centers which are able to pay for getting work. That is that what I understand in making a serious business. I'm publishing available campaigns as soon as I get updates from these companies. I'm publishing the campaign offers for free of charge as they help me to show that not all the offers found in the social networks are scam and how real offshore outsourcing business is working.

That I'm independent from the named campaign brokers gets already shown that DBM is the exclusive broker for the Caribbean Cruise Line campaign. That is a real campaign with very tight margins and it is hard for the centers to make some earnings with this campaign. I'm not promoting this campaign. I have even written some negative articles about this campaign. These articles are getting found at:

If you are working for a company you will not have the chance to write negative about a customer of this company. At least you would not long working after such an article for this company.

Don't worry I have been thinking if there is a possibility to monetize my blogs. By showing banner ads will nobody click on it. The most people are already using AdBlocker (I'm using an AdBlocker too). I have been even thinking about placing a donate button on my site, but what will I do if a scammer will donate something and I need to write later on an article about this scammer? I think it is better to let it like it is and stay independent.

About the writing of the capital from India I can say only that in the early 70ths has been written in the Austrian schoolbooks the name as Dehli and that is the way how the city gets pronounced in the German speaking countries. I'm not searching Google for the correct writing of city names. Even in the German version of Wikipedia is written about Delhi/Delhi:

Daneben existiert die Variante Dehlī [ˈd̪eːhlːi], die ursprünglich vor allem von den Muslimen benutzt wurde. Der Name leitet sich vermutlich vom alten Hindustani-Wort dil für „Hügel“ ab.

Translated to English is it:

In addition the variant Dehli [ˈd̪eːhlːi] exists, which was originally used mainly by Muslims. The name properly derives from the ancient Hindustani-word dil for "hill".

I think that there are much bigger problems found in the offshore outsourcing industry than the correct writing of the name from the capital of India where even two versions are existing or to discuss about possible type mismatches.

It is hardly possible to hurt me. We have in German language a proverb: "Wer austeilen kann muss auch einstecken können", translated to English has it the meaning of "Who could kick and punch must be able to stand answers in return".


Advance Billing, Advance Payment and Payout US$ 10/Agent/Hour
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM

Don't worry! We're from the InternetSounds good? Does it not sound too good to be true? Think about it. The center owner needs only to pay the travel costs of the trainer!

You are right. Sure, it is a plain advance fee scam. It is the newest idea from the well-known scammer Christine Wisner. Scam reports about Christine Wisner are getting already found at:

Let us take first a look at the terms the scammers are using for their unbelievable offers:

  • Advance Billing
    A billing is every time in advance and does not include an "advance payment". Nobody will pay before he gets a bill. For this reason is a bill nothing else than a simple form without any value if the bill does not get accepted from the recipient. You don't have any guarantee that the bill will get paid.

    Let us take an example: Even the supermarket cashier makes your bill in advance, before he receives the payment. At this time the supermarket cashier even does not know if you are able to pay the sum. That is called "advance billing". The only difference between the scam offers from the social networks and the supermarket is that the customer has to pay the bill before leaving with the purchased goods the supermarket.

  • Advance Payment
    Let me use the same supermarket example for the "Advance payment". If you enter the supermarket and before you take the shopping cart you have to pay the goods which you like to buy. Afterwards you collect your merchandise and go to the cashier again. The cashier will check if you have not taken more than you have paid in advance. For the case you have taken more than you have paid you need to pay the difference. You'll get some money back for the case you did not find all the goods you liked to buy.

    Would you choose such a supermarket for your daily needs? If your answer is no then ask yourself why someone should be someone so stupid and pay you before you did the work? Do you really think that others are silly? A successful business owner does not give you money as a gift. He is only successful because he knows his business and is not irrational acting.

Only scammers are writing such offers into the social networks and are hoping to find a senseless person which is paying their advance fee (however they are calling it - security deposit, consultancy fee, VoIP costs, etc.):


Startec Telecom, full name Startec Global Communications Corp, shares are getting traded at the NASDAQ. At their NASDAQ profile is written:

STARTEC is a rapidly growing, facilities-based international long distance carrier which markets its services to select ethnic U.S. residential communities that have significant international long distance usage. Additionally, to maximize the efficiency of its network

At Startec's company profile is written:

Building on that tradition, Startec is dedicated to being the leading provider of communication services to communities around the globe. Startec services connect worldwide communities spanning the Pacific Rim, Middle East, North Africa, Russia, Central Europe, and North and South America. We provide our services through a flexible network of owned and leased facilities, operating and termination agreements, and resale arrangements. Startec technology assets include an extensive network of IP gateways, international gateways, domestic switches and ownership in undersea fiber optic cables.

Does anybody believe that such a company hires a broker or consultant from Kolkota, India which is a well-known scammer?

Does anyone believe that such a company like Startec Global Telecom is sending a trainer on the costs of the call center from Hongkong to an unknown call center placed in the area of Hyderabad, India?

Such a business behavior would destroy the reputation of a company. The share values of Startec Global Telecom would in such a case go down to the area of the penny stocks and the responsible person would get fired.

Such a company knows how to hire staff, freelancers and subcontractors. If such a company hires someone than the hired one would get paid from them and not opposite round. As such a company is dealing with VoIP they would even make the recordings by themselves and you would even not have the chance to manipulate or edit them. For this reason and the reasons found above is the offer nothing else than a scam.

This scam gets initiated from Christine Wisner and afterwards she changes her identity to Joslyn March and uses the Skype ID joslyn.paul103. At this profile is written that she is from Toronto, Canada. She likes to get a flight ticket from Hongkong to your place while she is chatting from Kolkota, India. Here is her Skype profile:

Skype profile of the scammer Joslyn March - joslyn.paul103

The picture in the above profile got stolen from a photo model and should hide her real nationality.

By searching at Google for the exact phrase "client can stop the process with out any notice during the first 15 days trial period" I found another offer at the already well-known scammer platform

The complete offer of the "US INBOUND CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE WITH VERY GOOD PAYOUT" campaign (.pdf) is the following:

PAYOUT : $10 / Hour / AGENT
TIMING : 24 X 7
NUMBER OF AGENTS : 10 agents 24 x 7

Here gets even offered $10 per hour per agent for a not existing campaign. Which support can get given to the caller if the agent cannot get access to the customer database? Remember that AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for copied/stolen customer data during an outsourcing process. Why shall one company take the risk to get fined like AT&T?

The next question is why a company likes to outsource some telemarketing campaigns offshore? The answer is very simple, they like to save money by taking advantage of a lower wage in the offshore country. If we take a look at the average payment for telemarketers in the USA then the offered payment is the same like in the USA. By taking a look at PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States, than we see that the average salary is $10.07 and the minimum is $7.86 (data from September 2015):

PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States - September 2015

By looking at the data above, we see that telemarketers can get hired for less than $8 per hour. So why should hire a company from the U.S. a broker or consultant from India and offer a higher payment for the telemarketers. A company from the United States can hire and fire in the U.S. telemarketers for less and how they need them. Even the fee for the man-in-the-middle, the useless broker or consultant from India, can get saved in such a case.

Additional gets the same campaign under the tite "US Telecom Customer Service Inbound Only One Slot Available" (.pdf) found at the scammer platform BPO Project World from India. At this site shows the scammer how urgent he needs already money, because he writes that only one slot is remaining on this not existing campaign. Additional have even 12 amateur or "like to be" call centers asked for more information.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to and removed as they are already returning error 404 - not found.


An unbelievable offer from SYNTEL Pvt. Ltd. Australia - or to rent is more expensive than to buy
by Rudolf Faix Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:21 AM

Amanjit SahotaSYNTEL Pvt. Ltd.An Australian company, with the name Syntel Pvt. Ltd. got registered on June 17, 2013. The "Founding Partner and Director at Syntel Pty Ltd" Amanjit Sahota writes by himself in his LinkedIn profile that he is since August 2014 Director of his own company, makes the company already very suspect. For me it shows that the company did not earn enough in the time from June 2013 until July 2014 for paying his salary and/or he got fired on his other job.

If I read additional in the year 2015 at (2016-02-25: Link removed - Domain not exists): "We have spent the last 6 years perfecting VOIP (Voice Over IP) phone systems which means you can take advantage of the internet to make cheaper, often free calls." than I know that they are notorious liars or they are not able to calculate by using their brain and have not enough money for a pocket calculator. Both is in business worse.

If such a person even does not understand the difference between a LinkedIn company page and a LinkedIn personal profile, then it shows that the person seems have a real problem understanding any rules in business. If I read additional in his profile that his language is Punjabi then I think already about a post forwarding service and not about a local company in Australia.

Anyway the business amateur Amajit Sohota has sent me from his "personal company" profile at LinkedIn the following offer:

G`day Rudolf,

How are ya?

Many thanks for accepting my invite.

The reason I am getting in touch is that we have large presence in Manila and we are growing fast. We have a couple of ex-pats, from Australia, who are recommending our Hosted VPBX Services to customers in Manila. This is going great and I was wondering if this would be something we could partner up with?

The Dealer Agreement is a pretty straight forward arrangement whereby you locate possible opportunities, scope them out and then recommend us to them. We then take care of the rest. If they sign up we are happy to pay the following, which to date is the largest number of seats we have had come on board through a referral in one go:

5,000 Seat Opportunity.
5000 x $10 = $50,000 Up Front Fee

This particular customer went for the $49.95 All inclusive plan.
Therefore the trail is as follows: 5000 x $49.95 = $249,750.00 10% Trail = $24,975.00 Per Month for the 36 Months of the contract.

Most customers opt for either the $15 plan or the $49.95, depending on their needs. There are plans in between, they do not get much take up. We can be bespoke, if the opportunity requires, just let us know and we can amend accordingly. We pride ourselves on being proactive and dynamic.

As you can see the figures are inviting, for the right opportunity. This is, to date, the largest opportunity we have had in Manila.

Please do get back to me on: if this of interest.

My Director of Support will be in Manila in early December and would be happy to meet up, to discuss further. I will be up in early February, so happy to meet then, if that suits.

Enjoy your day and I look forward to hearing from you soon.


0427 550 566
1300 739 885

I really cannot believe that one owner of a 5,000 seat call center can be so stupid to sign-up with such a suspicious company. Does such a call center owner not think about the risk what he has with only one business partner? Such a center needs to get divided into a few sections to reduce the risk of a fail. A serious consultant will warn such people and reject the job if the call center owner does not understand the risk. One example of the risk: If the Internet connection from the place of the center drops for an hour the damage would be 5,000 working hours of his agents! The same can happen with the power connection of the center - only the Internet connection drops normally more often than the power connection.

As the email address provided in the offer is from an Australian domain I think that the prices are in Australian Dollars. Based on the exchange rate from today the up-front fee of AU$ 50,000 has the value of US$ 35,499.51 and the offer the monthly payment from AU$ 24,975 has the value of US$ 17,732.

Nowhere is written what is all included in the "all inclusive" offer. It seems to be only important for Amanjit Sahota to make money instead of explaining his offer. I would kick out such a salesman from my company. VoIP minutes cannot be included because they are different from country to country, from provider to provider and if fixed or mobile phones are get called. The local computers from the centers and the Internet connection of the center cannot be included too because the price is depending on the region of the world. In this case in the "all inclusive" offer can be only be included can the basic hosting and the rental of a phone system. For this is the offered price nothing else than profiteering.

To my reply "Maybe you need to rethink your offer and compare your prices with others on the international market", I got the answer:

G`day Rudolf,

How are ya?

Thanks for the message. We have Call Centres which are primarily for Overseas Clients, so our rates are good for them. Happy to discuss what would work with you.



It seems to be his sales strategy. I don't think that he would be really successful with this strategy.

Let us make a simple calculation example: I would take for security reasons at 4 SQL server, which are storing the data, the configuration of the phone systems and the call detail records. The price for one sql server hardware is around US$ 1,000. In sum we spend US$ 4,000 for our datastorage system. Additonal I would use for 500 seats one phone system based on Linux and Asterisk (Asterisk itself, GoAutoDial or a similar product). The price for one of these phone systems is around US$ 500. As I need 10 from them I spend in sum US$ 5,000. As Linux, Asterisk, GoAutoDial is open source I don't need to pay something for the software and I have enough capacity for a failover in the case that one system dies. Each of the phone systems will get connected to different Internet providers. This will enhance the failover possibilities and reduces the risk of an Internet drop. As more different VoIP providers I'll use as higher would get my security in the case of an error. I even can make a least cost routing between the chosen VoIP providers.

If we take now the above calculation in sum then I have spent until now only US$ 9,000 for the hardware. If I like to use the MS SQL server instead of a Linux open source SQL server than I need to spend additional US$ 650 for the Windows Server Software and US$ 4000 for the MS SQL Server. As I'm using 4 SQL-Server I have to spend in this case US$ 18,600 for the software. Even if we are now counting everything together we spend in sum US$ 27,600. That is even less than the up-front fee from the offer from Syntel Pvt. Ltd. (US$ 35,499.51). I would even make personally the complete server setup for the center for less than the half of the remaining US$ 7,899.517, which this solution is cheaper then the up-front costs from Syntel Pvt. Ltd.

The savings of my suggestion are in this case the "very small" amount of US$ 24.975 each month for 36 months of the contract. That makes the "little" sum of US$ 899,100 during 3 years of operation.

Update November 23, 2015: Syntel sent a message that in the "all inclusive" Plan is VoIP included:

G`day Rudolf,

How are ya? Hope you had a great weekend.

The All Inclusive Plans included All Local/National Calls All 1300/1800 Numbers and All Mobile calls.

Hope that assist. Enjoy the rest of your day.


A call center is working 17 hours a day (call time between 8 am and 9 pm additional 4 time zones on the continent) and 6 days a week calling the U.S. If we take now the minutes generated from a single agent then we need to multiply 60 minutes per hour * 17 hours a day * 26 days per month to see the result of 26,520 minutes an agent is generating during one month. If we divide now the difference between the standard plan and the all inclusive plan (AU$ 34.95 = US$ 25.26) then we see that this sum got offered as flat rate from some VoIP providers for private users. These VoIP providers, which have offered such a flat rate, are getting found now at the VoIP cemetery. The reason is very simple found. We need only divide the US$ 25.26 by the generated minutes from one agent during one month - 26,520. The result is rounded US$ 0.00095249. This minute price is far under the value which are the telecom companies billing under each other for the minutes. Each minute will generate a loss in this case. Not one company will pay you for using their lines.

The all inclusive offer is even worse and the loss for the phone companies higher for the case that this offer is restricted to the Australian phone numbers. The Australian free phone numbers 1300/1800 are not getting called from call centers because call centers need to sell something and not speak with customer services. The interconnect exchange rate is for Australia even at least 10 times higher than from U.S. phone companies. The agent is only 1 hour less generating per day because Australia has only 3 time zones on the continent.


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Scammer Exposed

Scammer: Phani Indra - Malladi Phanindra - - with unbelievable offers
by Rudolf Faix Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:08 AM

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Update November 18, 2015: The following shows how scammer are thinking how they can build up a business and how they are thinking how they can continue if they are getting catched to be scammer.

I have written the article one day after I have warned the scammer Phani Indra - Malladi Phanindra immediately as he had published the scam campaign in Facebook. In the hope that nothing will happen to him, he continued posting copying one campaigns after another from other sources where he even didn't know the source. It did even not make any difference for him if the campaign is genuine or not. He even does not have any knowledge how to identify a scam campaigns and he has ignored my warnings. Only important for him has been to make money. The way to get money and if the payer gets something for his money has not been important for him.

As the most of the campaigns are only available against an advanced fee are the campaigns nothing else than scam. A real client is searching for a broker or consultant which is near of his place and not abroad. The clients likes to have the possibility to make a complaint immediately and directly as soon as something goes wrong. If a client is searching abroad then he is searching directly for a center and not for a middle man. In this case he likes to avoid the kids game "Chinese message" and save the fee for the broker. For this reasons are 99.9% campaign offers with source from low wage countries nothing else than scam.

On this article he has shown an reaction and started to delete the campaign offers from his site after he even used a friend, which tried to explain me in the Facebook group "the campaign is from a friend":

Screenshot from Facebook discussion with the argument that the campaign is from a friend of a friend

My opinion is that people which have such a kind of friends don't need some enemies - such people are already punished with these kinds of friends!

Afterwards he started to delete the campaign from his site In the social networks are the offers still available - only the link to his site is not working. Here a screenshot from the scam offer in Facebook from today morning:

Screenshot from Facebook with the scam offer

As I told him, that he does not have any contract or permission with Deep Blue Marketing and for this he needs to remove the campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing too, he replied: "Are you talking about the UK Boiler Survey campaign with hot key transfer. Project ?". This answer shows that he even does not know the source of the campaigns and he had never any contact with any client or another broker. He has only copied campaigns from suspicious sources in the hope of getting rich from the up-front fees.

After he has deleted some campaigns - only from his site, he sent me the following message at Facebook:

I have just moved all energy campaigns to trash
All done now
I request you to remove my name from your blog
If you find any other scam or fraud projects in my site
Please contact the author

Sorry, but business is not a kindergarten game. For doing business you need to build up a reputation. Only to change the author of the site and using different names for the fraud does not bring a good reputation and does not release the owner of the site from beeing liable for the content. With other words is it nothing else than a nice try for continuing scamming centers by saying it is only a market place. Even a bad reputation is a reputation.

The whole story shows only how the scammers are trying to play man-in-the middle. For the case that the offered campaign is a real campaign how they like to make money with copy & paste. If the campaign is a scam than they get at least the up-front fee. In any case is it scam, because they even don't know who is the provider of the campaign and from where they have copied the campaign.

Original article November 17, 2015: Yesterday I found some unbelievable campaign offers in the social networks. The offers got posted from Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra the owner of the domain A warning about the scam offers got ignored from him, because today morning the offers still exists in the social networks and on his site It seems that he thinks that he can get rich by asking an advanced fee from centers. In one worse case he even thinks that he can get 7 Lacs (US$ 10,574) for a campaign where data from the client need to be accessible to the salesperson. The client will get fined from the US FTC (Federal Trade Commission) with US$ 16,000 per record. AT&T had paid in the past for such a failure, where data got stolen during an outsourcing process and the fines have been even cheaper, US$ 25,000,000. This ones, which don't believe it can take a look at the FTC site or at my report about this case.

Not one client will take the risk to get fined. A client likes to save money by an offshore outsourcing process and not pay more than his top workers get paid for doing the job. As in the traditional outsourcing countries (Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.) the consumer and customer data are protected by the data protection law and the fines for breaking the law are very high, not one client will outsource any campaign where the center needs to have access to their database. It does not matter if the data are getting misused by the center or stolen from by a someone else during a data breach. The business owner is liable in any case because he has collected the data.

Let us take a look at the offered scam campaign first

US International Inbound: Insurance Sector

Project description:

US Customer Care Process is to handle Inbound Calls of the customers who wanted to Inquire / Renew / claim / Transfer Insurance / Address or Other Modification.

  • +/- Calls could be in Health Insurance in regards to : HMO, PPO, EPO and Miscellaneous Insurance of (Visitor Insurance, Green Card holders Insurance, Student Health Insurance,J1 Visa Insurance, OPT Students Insurance, Europe Travel Insurance, Health Insurance for Visa, International Health Insurance, Group Travel Insurance, Short-term Heath Insurance, Discount Cards, Global Employees Group Insurance .

  • +/- Calls could be in Property and Casualty Insurance in regards to: Property (flood, earthquake, home, auto, pet) and Casualty (errors and omissions, workers’ compensation, disability, liability).

  • +/- Calls could be in Reinsurance in regards to: Insurance of Proportional, Non Proportional, Risks Attaching Basis, Losses Occurring basis, Claims –Made basis.

  • +/- Calls could be in vehicle Insurance in regards to: insurance of cars, trucks, motorcycles, and other road vehicles.

  • +/- Calls could be in Life and Health insurance in regards to: Insurance of Health (Dental, Vision, Medications), Life (Long-Term Care, Accidental Death and Dismemberment, Hospital Indemnity), Miscellaneous (Europe Travel Insurance, Trip Cancellation Insurance, Cruise Insurance, Missionaries Insurance, marine Crew Insurance), Annuities (Securities) and Life and Annuities.

Seats : 10 Seats X 3 Shift
Payout : $10 Per Hour Per Agent
Billing : Approx 35 lakhs for 30 Seats. (Advance Billing for 1 Month at the time of Go Live)

Payment methodology: The Business Associate will diligently carry out Inbound Customer Care work; Business Associates will get calls on a regular daily basis as per below mentioned terms and conditions. Client agrees to provide Validation formats/Process document and other necessary information for processing documents to the Business Associate at the time of work commencement. The Business Associate shall submit the Reports as per schedule provided by the client; however Payouts are be released after getting the QC report of (bi-weekly) that particular period. The Client will pay each bill within maximum 5th of each month, all then payouts are going to be release after Quality Check Certificate. The Payout can be raised through e-mail or Fax and followed by hard copy. Q.C will be provided in 10-15 working days.

Quality: The Business Associate shall maintain accuracy of 84.99% for the processed as per Quality score card terms and norms. If the Business Associate cannot reach 84.99% accuracy on 1st submission then the Client shall give the Business Associate another 15 days for rectifying the mistake in future workings and there after the Client has the right to terminate this agreement on receiving 3rd Quality report with a further notice.

Documents Required:

  • Company Profile and DOT Certificate
  • Company’s LOI (Letter of Interest)
  • Director’s Proof along with Senior Management Profile
  • Pan Card o Company’s Registration Proof
  • Center’s Screen Shots

Technical Requirements:

  • 2 MBPS Leased Line + Server ( Min 8 GB RAM IBM X360 with Xeon Processor )
  • 10-12 Seats capacity with 12 computers along with 12 headphones.
  • Dual core Computers (Minimum) + 1 GB RAM.
  • Server: “IBM X360 (Xeon Processor) with 8 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD (Minimum or more than that).
  • PABX, ACD and CRM are from Client Side 4 MBPS Leased Line or we also accept if center wanted to use their Thin Clients shall operate in a Fiber rich environment with its own bandwidth.
  • In Each Slot, A team of 10 (Ten), Agents (the Team), 1 Team Leaders, one Trainer. All mentioned above must be provided in One week, starting from the day this agreement is signed.

Commercial Charges Apply : Signup amount: INR 7,00,000

If you are interested contact us @ or call us at 9701875999/ 8143444986

Please don’t ask for more details as you got them all in this post.

The offered campaign needs the knowledge of an insurance salesman. The education of an insurance salesman takes in Europe 3 years. How can agents, which don't know anything about insurances and centers where even the center owners don't know something about the law in foreign countries, will be able to handle such a job? How good the education in India is and how much interest about foreign laws gets already shown by offering such a sham campaign. The scammer is even too stupid to invent a real scam campaign.

That education of the scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra has been not better than passing far away from any school gets shown by the fact that he requires IBM X360 Xeon Processor for the center. it shows only that he has no idea about the requirements of a call center and the work of a call center. A client will not load any application to the server of the center. Into forms are getting only some text data to the server of the client submitted. Such a datatransfer to websites can get done at the lowest speed of a mobile Internet connection. Depending on the used codec from the center and the VoIP provider is additional a bandwidth between 8kBit/sec and 80kBit/sec per seat necessary. A bandwith of 1MBit/sec would be plenty enough for a center with 10 agents.

The scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra from seems even to be stupid, because I have warned him in a chat about the scam. As everybody can see it in the provided protocol below he agreed with it and continued to post more of his scam campaigns instead of deleting them. The provided timezone is GMT+1:

1:32pm Save Bpo:
Thank you for your caution
Ill look into this
but i see there are 3 centers running this process from 18 months
Can you help me with this ?

1:45pm Rudolf Faix: You can only delete it because it is against the U.S. consumer protection law. Some other option is not possible

1:45pm Save Bpo:
Hmm, Thank you
Well i got partnered with and got these projects
Do you think its worth to work with them ?

1:46pm Rudolf Faix: Each inbound project with consumer data is nothing else than scam (countries: Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.)

1:47pm Save Bpo:
with *

1:47pm Rudolf Faix:
That is nothing else than an advanced fee scam. Agents would even not be able to handle it without a few month training
You should know about the law in the different countries before you are offering something

1:49pm Save Bpo: True

1:49pm Rudolf Faix: the only possible and legit campaigns are lead generation

1:50pm Save Bpo: Ill have a look into them

2:13pm Rudolf Faix: callcenterpartner has the campaign not at their homepage. Have I overseen it?

He did even not stop with his copy and paste process from He even copied the campaign from Deep Blue Marketing where onshore U.S. centers are getting searched. It seems that he thinks that U.S. companies are searching in India or on India websites for campaigns. For this idea you need to have studied, like he has written on his LinkedIn profile, at the Kakatiya University. We all know that intelligence is not commercially acquirable. Without thinking he has copied all campaigns from - even the scam campaigns where data needs to get used, which are protected by law and not one client will give a center access to these data.

The above campaign gets found in the and With other words the scammer even does not know from where he is copyng the campaigns. The only purpose or the campaign offers is to get an advance fee. That is nothing else than SCAM!!! All actions of the scammer are showing only how lazy he is. Malladi Phanindra / Phani Indra is even too lazy to invent his own campaigns. It seems to be very hard for someone which likes to have studied at an University to use his brain.


  • Not one client will risk to get fined with millions of dollars for giving you access to his customer database. The fine is much higher then the client is able to save on such a project.

  • Uneducated agents are not able to handle such a job

  • Everwhere where you have to pay to get some campaigns you'll get only scammed

  • Fees for the broker or consultant need to get paid from this one, which hires the broker or consultant and not from the company which shall do the work.

  • Real brokers with a contract with a client have to work for the client and not for the center for this the client has to pay them

  • Scammers like Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra are thinking they can get rich by creating a website and copy and paste from others without any knowledge of the content. They even don't know that not one client is searching for a broker or consultant from abroad!
    For this reason it does not make any sense to create a platform like in India. Not one client will use it.

  • Scammers from India are normally not listed with their sham companies on the site Ministry of Corporate Affairs ( But be aware you can get scammed from listed companies there too.

Domain registration data from

Domain Name: SAVEBPO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1844257178_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL:
Update Date: 2014-12-24T19:02:11Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar:, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Phani Indra
Registrant Organization: SaveBpo
Registrant Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Registrant Street: Malkajgiri
Registrant City: Hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 500047
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9701875999
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Phani Indra
Admin Organization: SaveBpo
Admin Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Admin Street: Malkajgiri
Admin City: Hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 500047
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9701875999
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Phani Indra
Tech Organization: SaveBpo
Tech Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Tech Street: Malkajgiri
Tech City: Hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 500047
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9701875999
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: NS1.IPAGE.COM
Name Server: NS2.IPAGE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-11-16T12:00:00Z <<<


Scammer - Manoj Kumar Devisetty - -
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:35 PM

We know from previous cases that scammer don't have any education, are not trained to use their brain, are too lazy to do some real work and like to get only your hard earned money. The same is it with Manoj Kumar Devisetty and his domains and

Let us first take a look at the social network profiles of the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty:

Social Network Profiles of the Scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Facebook (pdf) LinkedIn (pdf)
Manoj Kumar Devisetty Works at Voxant SOFT
Went to Ravindra Bharathi Public School (Left in 2006)
Lives in Hyderabad, India
From Vijawada, India
Hyderabad und Umgebung, Indien | IT und Services
Actual: C.E.O
Before: ask4technology, Microsense Private Limited
Education: ravindhrabarathi school
Manoj Kumar Devisetty

He is using the same free email address from Google. He is using the same email address for his scam offers too (the offer gets found at LinkedIn Pulse too):

From: Manoj Kumar Devisetty <>
Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:10 PM
Subject: Business propos

Outbound and Inbound Tech support

We are one of the leading tech support outsource and dial for USA and United Kingdom,As we are looking for he center who want to dial from the our company

We are the only center who pay’s the Hourly Basis in Tech support

Minimum centers 5(Five)

Payout:4$(dollars)/Agent/Hr in prorated basis

Most success rate for tech sales website

Vendors/Consultants: Please don't share the website details to the centers until or unless they

For vendors/consultant:

For access codes Please contact us

                               Phone:+91 8886799995

               United kingdom telephone:(+44) 7031939650

Our access codes will be changed every day at the time of shift timing starts, Access codes will

provide all the centers before one hour of shift starts.

  1. Dial-er provided by us.

  2. Voip and data center has to bare (or) we will provide the both for paid.

  3. Training via online Go-meeting from United kingdom with a cost of 200$ (or) center can choose

  4. Any miss use of the website center has to pay penalty of under the governance of United kingdom & Indian judiciary, Fine of 15000$ which i will also mentioned in SLA and MOU.

    1. Miss-use of the site like fraud sale fine up to 50$-100$ depends up on sales

    2. sharing of access codes to other center fine applied as rule number 4* strictly enabled

    3. All the center has to start dialing with an given Ip address.

    4. Our technology is well equip-ed for the site prevention/centers.

    5. center has to initiate with us S.O.P (Single Point of Contact).

  5. Inbound calls of 5-10 on a day /*conditions applied(if the center had reached success target of 2

  6. weekly target and monthly target enabled. (*Conditions applied)

  7. Payout cycle 15-20 Working days

  8. Center must have static Ip’s to monitor agents/access call recordings


Until now the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty does not know that real technical support is done only by inbound calls. If this inbound calls are getting generated from malware or are based on wrong information given from websites then is it a criminal action which can result in high fines and jail.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty confirms in his email that he does even not know how a phone system (dialer) is working and likes to provide the phone system to the center. If he provides the phone system for the center, then he has to provide the data and VoIP too or he has to provide one phone system seperately for each center. The center have otherwise no control about the usage of their VoIP connection and their own data.

He likes even to sell the training to the centers. Manoj Kumar Devisetty is so stupid that he does not know for whom the centers are working. If he likes to get the work done, then he has to give a training to the centers free of charge!

The way how he likes to get rich quick is shown in the point 4 of his scam offer. There he likes to get dollar fines in the name of United Kingdom and India. That shows that he even did not get any education, because otherwise he would know that the currency in the United Kingdom is the Pound and in India is it the Indian Rupie (INR). Not one country declares fines in a foreign currency.

At the point 4a the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty declares that each fraud sales will get fined between $50 and $100. The only problem is that each sale in technical support is a fraud sale and the complete campain is nothing else than a big fraud or a big scam.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty shows his missing technical knowledge of the Internet in the point 4c. There he likes to provide IP addresses to the centers. If he does not setup a VPN system then he will not be able to provide IP addresses to the centers. Even that the center has to start to dial with a given IP address contradicts the point 1 where he says that the phone system (dialer) gets provided. Dialer are normally building up the phone connection and connect the call to the agents which are in duty.

At point 8 he contradicts himself that the center has to have a static ip address and at point 4c he likes to provide an IP address to the center. Here get it shown that he has no technical understanding and even does not know about what he is writing. It seems to me that the complete offer is nothing else than a copy of phrases from other offers,

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is even using the name and trademark from Microsoft for his scam domain. That is at least misusage of a trademark and can get prosecuted. In his case does it even not help to hide the domain registry data behind a privacy service - he has forgotten that there is a domain registration history services available too:

Registry Domain ID: 1912410038_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL:
Update Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Creation Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar:, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street:
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street:
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street:
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T9:00:00Z <<<

As scammer are too lazy to use their brain he has also forgotten to change his email address by registering his second scam domain:

Registry Domain ID: 1904241447_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL:
Updated Date: 2015-04-22T02:19:44Z
Creation Date: 2015-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar:, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1660
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Registrant Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Registrant Street: hyderabad............
Registrant City: hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 520012
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9000403922
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Admin Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Admin Street: hyderabad............
Admin City: hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 520012
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +91.9000403922
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Tech Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Tech Street: hyderabad............
Tech City: hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 520012
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +91.9000403922
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1 2013775952
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T09:54:07+0000Z<<<

Maybe it is too hard for him to remeber different user names and passwords. In such a case he need to use a little bit of his brain, which seems to be too hard for him.

Anyway he promotes a system called Intelliweb at the website with the following words:

Intelliweb is the highest ranked and award winning company for business service in the world.

We use the most intelligent and efficient technologies servicing business.

The contracdiction for the above sentence gets very fast found if we take a look at the Alexa global ranking of the domain

Alexa ranking of

Additional like the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to live in the same house like Barak Obama - the White House - like it is shown at the contact us page of

White House - 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest, Washington, DC, 20500


Update November 2, 2015:

To show you how the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is working I show you the first message, which he sent to me on July 24, 2015 on LinkedIn. With this message he declares that he has no ideas how offshore centers are working and how to identify scammer. It can also be that he likes to get some information about in which kind of campaigns I would invest:


Need a help from you that to start an voice process or non voice process asap I have already tried some consultant people and paid money to them and lost lakhs of rupees... Will you please advice me how can I process further and what type of works to take do you had one let me know


Yesterday, a few hours after he has taken a look at my LinkedIn profile, he has contacted me again. The content of his message shows that he has even not been following the link and has been too lazy to read my full article about his scam:

Hi saw you post that I'm doing scams and earn a lot of money.

1. I'm not taking any money from centers and all
2. I do have a proof that we are paying regular payments and happy customers
3. And this is the not they to use... And it also mention in the site it is the form of cognialtechnogies

I do respect you comment and updates bit I don't know why you kept me like this.... Will you please let me know where the situation arises from your side. So that we can rectify the errors

The facts are:

  • There is nowhere written that he is earning a lot of money. I cannot know how many stupid people have tried to make some business with the scammer and for this reason I cannot know his income from the scam

  • That he does not take some money from the center is a big lie, because in his offer is written that he likes to get $200 for an online training of the center. Maybe in his scammer dreams are $200 no money or only a tip.

  • With his point 2 "I have a proof that we are paying regular payments ..." he confirms that he likes to play man-in-the-middle. How he can have a proof about regular paymenta if he even did not know two months before which kind of campaigns are legit and which are scam?

  • He even has even forgotten that he is the owner of the domain He tries to play even here man-in-the-middle. The statement "... it is the form of cognialtechnogies" shows only that he has a bad memory!

  • I think that even he does not recognize already his own lies and is living in a dream world. Another possibility is that some drugs or alcohol have already destroyed his brain and he is not able to think logically

To say that he is not using any scam is not enough. I understand it like this that he is producing scam instead of using an existing one:

That you can ask me directly and I'm not using any scam according this I'll be happy that you are delete the post of that. And that's

Based on the information he provided until now I see not any failure or error in my opinion that Manoj Kumar Devisetty with his sites and is nothing else than a scammer! So there is no reason to delete or to correct something.

With his next statement the scammer is already thinking that a phone number from an UK VoIP provider is already a company registration:

My company is n UK also you can check in records sir, as we are moving with good reputation and don't spoil that post

Where is the reputation coming from? I did not find any reputation about one of his domains, which are only 7 and 8 months old. It takes years to build up a good reputation. I know he is a super businessman, which has confirmed three months before that he even don't know how to identify scam offers. Is such a businessman able to build up a good reputation within a few days?

This lie about the UK company can get very easily identified. Each company, which is working B2B needs to have in the European Union a VAT ID. The VAT number is not a secret and has to get provided on each bill. Valid VAT numbers can get verified on a central website. For this reason I asked the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to tell me his VAT number, which he could not provide:

I'm Mr. Rudolf in not working wih you and I doest want to show all the details and you can check in Google search

On this statement I tried to explain him the EU tax and billing rules with the words: "Google is not relevant for this purpose. You have just confirmed that you have even no idea from the billing laws inside the European Union. For this you have no company in the UK. You are nothing else than a scammer. VAT ID's of both parties have to get written on each bill! They are not a secret, they are against tax fraud available!!!"

Bull shit..!! I need not to be get fraud from you and I'm not gaining anything from you and mostly you are not even my clinet to show the proofs and all.... I had just informed you that. With having any relevant kind of information how could you put all by its own way. I don't want to share everyone everything to all to prove my self OK. Thanks Mr.Rudolf please to meet you again this is not personal don't take to the heart everything. And you had a Cline that we had fraud and all if yes, let me know

I know that a scammer cannot provide any proves for this I replied this way: "I know you need not fraud because you make the fraud by yourself. Your lies don't help you and the law is not interested in it what you like or not. Here some information and links about VAT-ID's:"

Mr.Rudolf its own thing to share... if you please dont mine please delete that and i dont want to get a call from all the people.... i had given the basic details about that and more thing i'm not the slave for you to prove the records from all or else leave it

no one intimated that i'm a scammer and non raise a complete on me and took your own decision to make your self Great work

It does not matter or makes any difference if Manoj Kumar Devisetty has already scammed some people or not. He has at least tried to scam somebody. That fact shows the charcter of Manoj Kumar Devisetty and makes him to a scammer instead of a trustful business partner.

I don't know how other people are calling someone which is

  • misusing the name of a trademark
  • thinking that he has his office inside the residence of the U.S. president - the White House
  • registering at least one domain with an incomplete address (street address of is missing or wrong)
  • offering at least one offshore call center campaign which is nothing else than a big scam (outgoing tech support)
  • and lies as soon as he starts typing or open his mouth

For me are such people only SCAMMER, FRAUDSTER and CRIMINALS!!!

Update December 10, 2015: Today I received the answer from the ICANN on my ticket about the Whois Inaccuracy from the domain

Dear Rudolf Faix,

Thank you for submitting a Whois Inaccuracy complaint concerning the domain name ICANN has reviewed and closed your complaint because:

- Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name.

ICANN considers this matter now closed. If you have reason to believe that your complaint should not be closed, please forward this e-mail along with any other relevant information to ICANN Contractual Compliance at . ICANN will review your submission and, if appropriate, forward it to the registrar to ensure compliance.

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Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Manoj Kumar Devisetty ( removed as it returns error 404 - not found.


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