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Tech Support Scammer: G. P. Singh - zenfinancial.com
by Rudolf Faix Friday, November 20, 2015 9:04 AM

G. P. SinghUpdate November 21, 2015: Maybe it is not clear enough in the original article, but it does not matter if the scammer is paying the centers or not in this case. The scam starts by generating the calls for the “Tech support”:

  • Offered installation calls for Mcafee, Norton, MS Office, Printer setup
    A customer, which buys a product and which is not working on his site, likes to get his money back. For this reason he will complain the seller or the hotline from the manufacturer of the product and will not call someone where he has even to spend more money than he has spent already. This is called guarantee for a product. The producer or seller of the product needs to get the chance to solve the problem before he has to give the money back to the customer. That is consumer law and for this reason are the offers of the “installation calls” nothing else than scam. Nobody will pay for something where he has a right to get it for free.

  • Blue screen calls
    For the case a blue screen happens is there nowhere shown a phone number to call. Real blue screen cases are happening during system malfunctions based on some hardware or memory defects, failures of drivers or by installing some suspicious software. A blue screen cannot get solved from remote and by using some remote desktop programs because these programs are not functioning during the time a blue screen happens. As you need to try to reproduce the problem will it be hard job to do such work from remote with a normal and technical not interested user on the other end.

  • Pop up calls
    If the pop-up is more than a simple promotion the offer is a scam. Even UK Financial Fraud Action is warning to give untrusted people remote access to their computer. Everybody knows how many people are using pop-up blocker and adblocker. The advertising industry is already crying about percentage of people can get reached. How will in this case a scammer generate enough calls which he likes to sell?

In any case call centers should be aware that participating in a fraud system is a criminal action and gets prosecuted. If you buy calls which are getting generated by malware you’ll be in the first line of investigation because of the money flow from the victim to you. Maybe the real criminal disappears in the meantime and you are the only remaining one which gets prosecuted. If the seller can get found is not so bad for you because in this case you’ll get prosecuted only for the dubious purchase but it can come worse too as everybody likes to protect himself in front of law.

The above facts cannot get discussed away. On the other site G. P. Singh tries to use the revenge postings from other scammers to use against me instead of trying to explain me where I’m wrong in my understanding his offer. The same way all other scammers are acting too. The problem is only that there are no evidences and the postings did not get proved from anyone. Richa Softwaresolution has even tried to fake an email from me but could even not provide mailheaders for it. This try can get found in my article Fake emails which seems to be from Rudolf Faix - rudolffaix@gmail.com - rudolf.faix@wwpa.com. Such an email gets shown at the screenshot below:

 

Original arcticle:

At the LinkedIn profile from G. P. Singh gets shown how a formerly successful businessman has changed to be now a scammer. The statement from G. P. Singh in answer to a comment shows already the scam: "There are no details to send. Decice what you want, place an order, prepay and we deliver the calls. Simple!".

Maybe the scammer does not know that Microsoft, Symantec (Norton), Intel (McAffee) and the manufacturers like Canon, HP, Dell, etc. have their own support hotline where their customers can call free of charge and get support without paying for it. The calls to these support hotlines are even used for improving their products. But it seems that the scammer G. P. Singh has already lost his ability to think and is only interested in getting money for nothing.

For the case that a center owner pays for getting such a kind of calls and he gets really some calls then these calls are getting generated by malware and fake websites. That is a crime which gets prosecuted. In such a case the center owner needs to think how he gets paid for his fraud service. The money flow will make the center owner to a scammer and bring him into the first line of investigation. Here are some examples about tech support scam, which got already prosecuted:

Here is a screenshot from the scam offer:

LinkedIn posting of the scam

Maybe the scammer G. P. Singh needs some money for disappearing because the Stock Fraud Attorney Fitapelli | Kurta is actually searching for more victims of a fraud done by Zen Financial Services and Jonathan Bao:

Broker Complaints: Zen Financial Services and Jonathan Bao

The securities and investment fraud law firm, Fitapelli Kurta, is interested in speaking to investors who have lost money investing with Zen Financial or Jonathan Bao.

Zen Financial Services is an independent financial planning and investment firm based out of in Alhambra, California. Zen Financial Services was established in 2011 by Jonathan Bao. Zen Financial Services specializes in retirement plans, wealth management to high net worth individuals, and small businesses. Zen Financial Services offers investments in common stock, mutual funds, annuities, Roth IRAs, Traditional IRAs, and 401k’s. Zen Financial Services is a small firm, employing approximately one to four people. Zen Financial Services’ main office is located at 205 South Chapel Avenue, Alhambra, CA 91801. Zen Financial Services is not a FINRA member firm and is not registered with the SEC.

Zen Financial Services’ founder and president, Jonathan Bao, has recommended the following securities to investors: ProShares Ultra VIX Short-Term Futures (UVXY) and Dendreon Corporation (DNDN). Jonathan Bao is also registered with Royal Alliance Associates.

These 2x ETFs are highly speculative investments which present a significant amount of risk to investors. These nontraditional ETFs trade on a daily basis, which means they should ideally be sold at the end of each day to accurately predict and maximize profit. The longer these ETFs are held on for, the harder they become to predict and the less likely an investor is to make any money.

If you or someone you know has lost money investing in nontraditional ETFs through Jonathan Bao or Zen Financial Services, Royal Alliance, or one of its other brokers, you may be entitled to full recovery of your losses. The attorneys at Fitapelli Kurta prosecute cases on behalf of investors like you who have lost money as a result of unsuitable investments recommended by firms like Zen Financial Services and Royal Alliance. These cases are taken on a contingency fee basis only, which means our firm will not receive any compensation whatsoever unless and until you recover money.

Cases are filed with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) and will submit to arbitration. Fitapelli Kurta has filed hundreds of cases before FINRA and has recovered millions on behalf of investors who have fallen victim to broker misconduct. Do not delay. Call 877 – 238 – 4175 to speak directly to an attorney and further discuss the merits of your case.

Our consultations are always free.

Call 877 – 238 – 4175 now.

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Update November 21, 2015 - A statement from Mr. G. P. Singh:

Also, ZenFinancial, has nothing to do with the 'Zen Financial Services' which you are referring to, so please remove this post, ASAP

Maybe he is right in this case, but it is his problem to use the same name of a fraud company. As Microsoft and the other companies are not publishing his phone numbers for their support services remains the question how the calls are generated. The offer includes "Blue Screen calls" and "Pop Up calls". As no phone number gets shown at a blue screen it will be very hard for a scammer to find any arguments why someone should call his number if there is no scareware or malware used for generating this kind of calls. Scareware and malware distribution is a crime!

Update November 21, 2015 - A personal message to me from a Facebook member:

I saw your post regarding Mr Singh. He has a lot of campaigns to offer. I am supposedly going to run his payday loan campaign but a supposed to be 1-2 minutes script to run by an agent he wanted the call to run for 15 minutes. Which is very impossible and the pay is $9 only per succesful transfer. Definitely all centers who gets campaigns from him lost. I have never seen an outbound campaign with a very short script to run on a call for 15 mins or more. I think too hes a scammer. You may check his zen blog page for diff campaigns

 

Why all these campaign offers from the low wage countries are SCAM?
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, June 3, 2015 9:13 AM

Scam SchoolA company, which likes to outsource a campaign, is searching for a consultancy or outsourcing agency locally. The reason for this is that they like to feel save and have the same law situation for a contract. A local company can get easily verified. The hired consultancy agency gets paid from the outsourcer directly. It is normal that this one, which hires someone, pays the bill for it. For this are all these campaign offers with upfronts, royalty or however the fee is getting called nothing else then scam, because it shows that the broker or consultant does not have any contract with the client.

If a outsourcer is searching on the Internet abroad, then this one will not search for a consultancy agency or broker. Such a company is searching directly for a center, which can do the work. The contract structure and the verification process will be much more costly in time and workforce then to hire a consultant, which is doing all the work for them.

Additional has each one to respect the law in the destination country of the call. Consumer and customer data are in the traditional outsourcing countries (Australia, Canada, Europe Union, Ireland, New Zealand, USA, etc.) protected by law and are not allowed that others get access to them. Even if customer data are getting stolen this one, which has stored them, has to pay a fine. A nice example for this is the case from AT&T where 280,000 customer records got stolen from their own call center staff. AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for this case.  Do you really think that one of such companies give you access to their customer database when they are expecting such fines?

This shows already the reason why all the offered inbound and form filling campaigns are nothing else then scam.  You need only to think about it who is calling or which kind of forms should get filled. The most calls a company receive are coming from customers of the company. What can you do with such an incoming call if you have no access to the customer database? You are only able to forward the call to somebody, which has access to it. In such a case this one can pick up the call by himself too. The company will not save anything by outsourcing such a process. So why they shall outsource this kind of process?

Think now about the form filling process. Such campaigns have been available before the digital revolution has started. I started programming computer systems around 38 years ago. Since 30 years are already personal computer available. 1986 got the SQL (Structured Query Language) the first standardization. Since around 20 years are SQL databases in common use for storing data. That means all the data, which should get filled in forms, are already since more than 20 years digital available and the programs are able to fill forms automatically. There is no need to enter some data manually – the digital Stone Age is already a long time over! Why should you pay someone for a copy and paste work if there are programs are available which are doing the work within seconds?

Do you really think that any author is writing by hand or on a type writer? The first program I remember having used for writing letters has been Wordstar. The version 1 got sold already in the year 1978. It has been running on the CP/M System from Digital Research already and got later on ported to the system of MSDOS. Since 1983 is Microsoft Word available. Why should an author use a type writer or write his books by hand in this case? It is much easier to type it on a computer and forward it by email to the publisher, the editor can make easily his changes and forward it directly to the pressroom. With the export function is it easily to bring the book without typing into the eBook format. There is no manual interaction necessary. The books are getting stored for a reissue. Even old book got already digitalized during the past 30 years. So there is no need for eBook typing. Think about it, why should you pay an upfront fee for such a work? The answer is very simple: The scammer cannot get paid from any client for the invented process and the upfront fee is his only possible income in this case!

The next big scam is the tech support where the center should buy calls and charge the caller for the provided service.  In this case the center takes the risk about the way the calls are getting generated. A legal way to generate such calls is with advertising not possible. With advertisings at the best visited sites you can get one or two calls per day, because everybody knows someone, which can help by computer problems. The most common problems are network and driver problems. With network problems you have no access to the remote computer and cannot give any help. Driver installation from remote is very difficult too because in the most times you need exactly the model of the hardware part. An end user will not be able to tell it to you. In such a case are only the calls remaining, which are generated by scareware. Such scareware is illegal and the center can up in jail for making money generated by scareware, viruses, ransomware, etc. As the center is making money with the incoming calls is it reasonable that the center is the programmer or the distributor of the criminal software. The seller of the calls will be already trackless disappeared in such a case and the center owner will be alone in front of the law court. The devil takes the hindmost.

 

Which campaigns are remaining for offshore call centers in such a case?

The situation is very simple.  Campaigns other than lead generations from already heavy used data, which are getting traded between the centers, are not really available.

All the offered products from the real campaigns are on a pay per sale base and are well known from the spam emails. To sell such products by already heavy used calling data is not really easy and profitable. It is only profitable for the outsourcer because he is even saving the cost for the staff and has no risk about his product which is unsaleable on a normal way. For the center is it like fishing in troubled waters by taking all the risk.

 

Tech Support Scammer: Mani Miller on Facebook
by Rudolf Faix Friday, May 8, 2015 7:42 AM

Mani MillerThe following offer on Facebook from Mani Miller is a typical Windows Pop Up Scareware offer like it is described at SCAM: Windows pop up calls - the best way to end up in jail: At the end of the comments confirms Mani Miller by himself, that he is not serious. 

That he knows that he is selling illegal generated calls gets proven by the messages he sent to me using the Facebook chat at the same time.

This posting with the offer gets found at Facebook:

 
2 hrs · Edited · 
 

Contact number :- 8860676851 
These calls are available at 500 fix price
pop up smtym blue screen.,
microsoft security ,
Webpage detected virus.,
security threats,
security breaches,
computer compromised, blinking pop ups,
freez pop ups,
System slow,
Viruse detected,
Webpage redirecting,
Hacker found,
Calls rate are fix 500Rs for centre and resellers 
Call valume atleast 50

 
Like · Comment · 

 

At the same time I got on Facebook the following messages from Mani Miller:

  • Mani Miller

    Hello sir hope you doing good

     

    By the way don't you like to see me that and m doing my job here posting some adds

     

    Humble request to u please stopped it on my profile and posts

     

    Thank you

     

    Besr wishes to u

     
     
  • 4:42am
     
     
  • 4:58am
     
     
    Mani Miller

    Hi, I don't like the things you are posting. Would you please stop? Thanks.

 

I know that scammer don't like my postings. His message shows only that he knows that he is offering illegal generated calls and he does not like to stop offering them. At least he is friendly asking. Other scammer are more rude.

Another offer of illegal calls for MAC get's found at Mani Millers profile on Facebook:

 
2 hrs · 
 

Call are available windows Mac @500k minimum orders 100calls

 — at MD Infotech services Pvt Ltd.

As Mani Miller has given a recommendation for MD Infotech services Pvt Ltd. that they are working together in generating and selling the illegal calls.

The edit history of the posting is:

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  • Mani Miller
    2 hours ago
    Rohit adhikari
    pop up smtym blue screen.,
    microsoft security ,
    Webpage detected virus.,
    security threats,
    security breaches,
    computer compromised, blinking pop ups,
    freez pop ups,
    System slow,
    Viruse detected,
    Webpage redirecting,
    Hacker found,
    Calls rate are fix 500Rs for centre and resellers 
    Call valume atleast 50
     
  • Mani Miller
    2 hours ago
    Contact number :- 8860676851 
    These calls are available at 500 fix price
    pop up smtym blue screen.,
    microsoft security ,
    Webpage detected virus.,
    security threats,
    security breaches,
    computer compromised, blinking pop ups,
    freez pop ups,
    System slow,
    Viruse detected,
    Webpage redirecting,
    Hacker found,
    Calls rate are fix 500Rs for centre and resellers 
    Call valume atleast 50

 

Facebook offer: Mani Miller - Contact nu...6851 These calls are....pdf (389.55 kb)

Facebook profile: Mani Miller Facebook Profile.pdf (3.13 mb)

Facebook page: MD Infotech services Pvt Ltd..pdf (1.22 mb)

 

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Scammer Exposed

Scam campaign from mpavistechnologies.com
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, May 2, 2015 8:38 AM

mpavistechnologies.comI had one campaign listed from mpavistechnologies.com, which has not been scam. I have delisted this campaign as soon as I found Tech Support offers from mpavistechnolgies in Facebook. The tech support offers are all scam. The calls are getting generated by scareware, which is called computer fraud. From advertisements, even on Google, you'll not get enough calls, that it will be profitable to sell the calls. All the consumer protection organizations around the world are already warning about the "Tech Support calls".

I got forwarded a campaign from mpavistechnlogies.com. mpavistechnologies.com did not send me the campaign description directly, because they know that I'll classify such a campaign only as scam.

Q & A

You will be calling potential customers all over the U.S. Looking for customers, who are interested, cooperative, are the home owner and are not currently under contract with another security company.  You will live transfer those calls to our closing agents.

Do you charge set up fees?
We do not charge set up fees nor do we charge for the right to do the campaign. All we ask is that you pay for your VOIP.

We are investing in you - We supply the dialer, Leads and the VAKA (non-voice software). This all costs money that we provide to you for free - We also are investing our time, not only getting you set up, but also the initial and ongoing training.

 

  • If you decide to supply the dialer, then are the costs of the dialer your problem and not the problem of the call center. The call center can do nothing to influence this costs and for this are this costs not the problem of the center. Any existing dialer or the call center is not increasing his value because it is not get used. 

  • Data and leads are the problem of the client. If the data or the leads are not good, then the best call center will fail. 

  • You like to use VAKA, for this are the costs for the software your problem and not the problem of the center. If you think VAKA is the best solution for you, then you need to supply it and you'll never be able to bill it to the call center.

  • You are investing your time? If you decide to that a call center has to use your system, then you have to train them on your software. For this you get paid from the client!

So you have can even not say that you are investing already enough for the center if you are really investing NOTHING!!!

 

What are the VOIP charges?
The cost of the VOIP is .0079 per minute - You should budget $2 - $4 per agent per day

Can you use your own VOIP Provider?
No. We require that everyone use our VOIP provider, both the opening centers and the closing centers. The reason we do it is to avoid all the tech issues and to provide you with accurate reporting on all calls. Our calling plan allows for all the calls to be connected through tier one and two providers and offer more termination points and outgoing channels that any other provider. Because everyone is on the same system, using the same VOIP provider we do not experience latency issues, echoes, delays and disconnections. The calls are clean and flawless.

Do you profit from the centers using your VOIP Provider?
No. We do not profit from this. You get charged, what we get charged.

Can you deduct the VOIP from future payouts?
The VOIP must be prepaid in order to get started. It is not our VOIP Company (3rd party) - We do not pay it for you.
We will set up the VOIP account for you and provide you with the web portal and show you how to proceed

You will have complete control, as you will have access to the Web Portal (VOIP provider) there, you will be able to load your minutes and receive your VOIP reports

As you provide dialer, leads, client software, etc. you should not search for call centers, which are paying your VoIP minutes. The call centers have no possibility to influence the dialing behavior, the data quality and all surroundings. For this you have to provide the VoIP minutes too. In this case you can run your own center with your own agents. For what you'll need some call centers in this case? With this offer you show that you need them only for paying your phone bills and the salary of the agents!!!

YOU SHOW WITH THIS OFFER ALREADY THAT YOU NOT TRUST INTO THE CAMPAIGN!!!

PayPal
You must set up a PayPal account both to make payment to VOIP provider and to receive payment from us. It is really simple to do - Just go to their website and set up an account - It is the easiest method and the cheapest

What is the pay out?
We will pay you $6 per transfer, with a 60 second buffer

What is a 60 second buffer and why is it needed?
A 60 second buffer means, that when the call is transferred the closing agent has 60 seconds to determine if the transferred call was a qualified transfer, meaning the customer was interested, cooperative, was the home owner (not a renter) and was not under contract with another security company - if the call goes 60 seconds or greater, the transferred call will be considered billable and therefore you will be paid on it.

Here you show exactly what I have said before. You don't trust your data and your product. For this you offer a pay per sale. You are proofing that already in your next sentence "they must be a home owner". With this you show that you have data, but they are not selected to be from home owners. The call center shall sort the data out for you. With such data you can only offer a pay per hour per agent!!!

What are the qualifications for a transferred call?
There are 2 criteria for the calls to be transferred - 1) they must be a home owner and not a renter 2) they must not be under contract with another security company. They can have a preexisting security system; they just can’t be under contract, meaning the contract must have expired. We cannot accept either of the above - Therefore, it is in the agreement - If we see that you are transferring an unacceptable amount of renters or customers that are under contract, we will terminate the arrangement. - It means your agents are not doing their jobs, asking the correct questions and getting the correct answers

What can my center achieve?
That really all depends upon you and your agents - Your agents should be able to achieve 4 billable transfers per day each - Keep in mind, in an 8 hour day that is only 1 transfer every 2 hours. Your agents will be speaking to 500 people a day - That’s 1 out of every 125 people.

Your agents will be dialing 3000 - 5000 numbers per day each - speaking with between 300 - 500 customers a day

Let us make an example: In average a call gets answered after 3 times ringing. 3 times ringing is taking around 15 seconds. If we are dialing 3000 numbers then we can calculate the dialing time of 15 seconds * 3000 calls / 3600 = 12.5 hours for a 10 hours working day (Monday until Thursday).

The other way is you are using a dialer, which is already illegal in the USA. In this case you need to have a lot of money for the fine from the FTC. If you have millions of dollars why do you cry in this case about the VoIP minutes? It is nice from you that you are providing the dialer, because in this case you will get the punishment and not the center.

Take a look at http://news.wwpa.com/post/2015/04/30/ftc-and-ten-state-attorneys-general-take-action-against-political-survey-robocallers-pitching-cruise-line-vacations-to-the-bahamas.aspx. The responsible companies got punished with fines over 5 millions of dollars. Why are you crying about VoIP minutes and hourly rates for the agents if you have so much money in your wallet?

In any case your system is dialing and that need to be done on your own bill and not on the bill of the center. The center has no influence on this dial behavior.

 

What is your pay schedule?
The week starts on Friday and ends on Thursday - You will be paid the next day (Friday) - You will be paid via PayPal.

Is it possible to send payment to our international merchant account?
No, only if it is attached to your PayPal Account.

Calling Schedule
All times are based on EST. At present, we are open from 9am - 7pm EST Monday - Thursday, 9am - 5pm EST, Friday and 12pm - 5pm EST on Saturday.

53 hours of calling per week = 3180 minutes * 0.0079 = 25.122 $/week or in average 4.187 per day (6 days)

Training.
The scripts and training, we will provide them once the agreement is returned

Please go to tmicomm.com and watch the demo video.
I will personally do a live the training session with all your agents. The training will last approximately 1 1/2 hours. The training is divided into 4 sections 1) Background on the campaign 2) Dialer how it works – how to transfer 3) VAKA – How it works – how the system is laid out, what the recordings to use and when 4) listen to sample recordings of agents on their first days on the job. This will illustrate what the agents can expect and what not to do. It will get them past the learning curve quickly.

Your agents will then role play with each other - One will act as the customer, the other the agent. This will help get them familiarized with the system. Once you feel the agents are proficient, you will be free to start dialing.

Reports Disclosure
You will receive reports everyday showing exactly how many transfers were sent, how many of them where billable, all call durations and how much money is due.

You will also be granted admin access to the dialer reports. You will be able to live monitor your agent’s calls. Have access to all the recordings both, on the opening side and also on the closing side. In addition, you will be able to monitor your agent’s activity. You will know when they sign in, when they are on pause, how many calls they took and the result.

How long does it take to set up?
The set up process is very easy. Once we receive the agreement back, we will set you up in the system. Once that is complete, we will set up your VOIP account. You will then prepay your VOIP. Once set up you will change the audio settings on each agents work station. It will take a few minutes for each one. We will provide explicit directions that are easy to follow. In the event, you still need help our tech department will assist you. The whole process lasts about an hour.

this is http://tmicomm.com/main/?page_id=32
training which we will follow

mpavistechnologies.com shows with this offer that they have no idea from the call center business and from the rules of the FTC. They are only searching for someone, which is taking the risk for their campaigns. This one, which takes the risk has no possibility to influence and reduce the risk.

 

 

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Scammer Exposed

systweak.com: a fraudster with Microsoft Gold Partner certification
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, April 22, 2015 1:59 AM

Fraud AlertAt my research for the roots of the Tech Support scam offers in the call center industry I have found the company Systweak India - domain systweak.com. It is one of the sources of the "Tech support calls", which are getting traded at Facebook in the call center and outsourcing groups all over the Asia and India.

The scam is working the following way:

  • Once they have programmed system tools on shareware base. Maybe at this time they had some sense, but with the further development and improvement of Windows this tools have been coming obsolete. Other companies are even providing already such tools for free or including similar products into their own offers. So they have been coming greedy and added to their products scare warnings and are showing a phone number where their victims have to call for help.

  • This incoming calls get sold to call centers, which have more or less a script and some provided tools for giving paid help to the caller. The call center is billing for their service directly the customer. This makes the scam dangerous for the call center, because in this case the money flow shows that the call center is the scammer. They will get prosecuted even they know it or don't know it that they are helping in scamming others. 

  • If their victim calls the phone number he has to pay a high price for the help. If their victim agrees and pays the scam fee, then they are installing more fraud software on the victims computer. Even the call center agent, which should solve the problem does not know about the scareware which is included in the provided tools.

 

Even if the scam has not been planned from the beginning, the system "Pay Per Sale" leaded to the scam. The greediness of the call center owners has driven the agents to sell as much as they can. Each business need to try to earn from their investment. If they buy something on stock then they need to try to make profit out of this stock. Nobody can work for free because we all need some money to pay our daily needs. This leads to such a fraud behavior too. If this has been the real case then it has been the self shot for Systweak. Even if the paid help is planned for one or more years, the problem exists, that the customer is reaching another call center then this one he has paid for his subscription. This new call center likes to get money too and does not work for free - remember the service is a "pay per sale" offer.

They are selling the calls, because they are thinking that they cannot get prosecuted by doing this. The first, which is coming into the spotlight is the owner of the phone number and this one, which takes the money. Indeed it is difficult to follow all the trades, which are done between the brokers, but it is not impossible. The first one, which are getting prosecuted are the helpers of the fraud and scam. In this case are it the call center owners, their agents and the owner of the published phone numbers.

At easycounter.com can get seen how much traffic is generated by the site systweak,com, With this counters can get calculated how many computer user are falling into their trap. You can see a screenshot from April 21, 2015:

Systweak Traffic from esycounter 

In the following screenshot are the top countries listed where the traffic comes from:

SysTweak Worldwide Audience from Easycounter

 

It was a coincidence that I found the right domain. As the domain has been suspicious for me, because nobody can give up to 70% commission on his products if the product is competitive priced. I made my standard search procedure as following:

A short reputation research at scamadviser.com brought the result:

ALERT: Low Trust Rating. This Site May Not Be Safe to Use.

I found the following comments at scamadviser:

  • Susan Swanson Speulda
    Susan Swanson Speulda · Contractor at Apollo Education Group
    Totally got screwed. Owes me a $400 refund but said I had to pay $200 to get it
    Put a startup password on my computer but told me I had to pay to get the password. Told them I wouldn't and the said f you. Computer being worked on but may need a new motherboard. Don't do business with them!
     
     
  • Joanne Jan Naujokas
    Joanne Jan Naujokas · RITI
    I paid 198 for one year service and they have cleaned up my computer at least 6 times so far. I think they are from India but have always been great and polite and yes try to sell more but I don't accept.
     
     
  • openid (signed in using AOL)
    I'll tell you the truth. Systweak are an absolute nightmare, son't get involved, don't download shit from these parasites. They are all about scamming. Their "regcleanpro" software is just a hijacked app that they then use to extort more money from you. They are based in Jaipur and they will steal your money and ruin your pc. DON'T DO IT.

 

Norton SecuredMicrosoft Gold PartnerBy taking a look at http://systweak.com/ I have found the Microsoft PartnerGold Application Development Logo and the Norton SECURED powered by Symantec logo.

The Norton secured logo means only that they are using a security certificate from Symantec. This only confirms only that the correct server is communicating with you and certificate can get reviewed by clicking on the Norton logo. The result is shown in the following screenshot:

Norton Secured

 

More interesting is the Microsoft Partner Gold Application Development, which really leads to the site https://pinpoint.microsoft.com/en-IN/Companies/4295548206 (see the site at the pdf attachment) and confirms the partnership of Systweak India.

As Systweak is offering a Premium Support at their website and the customer complains about "Owes me a $400 refund but said I had to pay $200 to get it Put a startup password on my computer but told me I had to pay to get the password." makes all the surroundings of this company a little bit suspect. So I decided to search a little bit at Google and other sites.

WOT (Web Of Trust) is rating them based on user comments are from 100 ratings 92 complaints about scam, malware and scareware.

Scambook.com reports:

Information about Systweak Inc. was first submitted to Scambook on Sep 10, 2011. Since then the page has accumulated 4 consumer complaints. On average users reported $106.80 of damages. Scambook's investigation team reached out to this company a total of 1 times, Scambook Investigators last contacted them on Apr 23, 2013.

In a comment at downloads.cnet.com we find:

"STOP!!!! DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT!!!!"

March 25, 2014  |  By dwillpirate

 |  Version: Advanced System Optimizer 3.1.648.6846

Pros

Initially it seemed to be a great system to search my entire computer, find errors and fix them, but....

Cons

I installed the program after what I now know were fake "HP Help" guys from India recommended it. First off, it would install older versions of drivers that would end up causing more problems. My computer ran fine prior to the program and continued to slow down more and more over time. Eventually it got to the point where my computer would freeze after 5 minutes of use. I bought a new hard drive and loaded ASO first, and immediately my computer began to run extremely slow, using 100% of CPU space. I called the tech support number and got another guy from India who again tried to sell me the same "maintenance plan" as before that cost $350. It is an absolute scam to try to get people to pay for more unneeded service.

Summary

DO NOT USE THIS PRODUCT. If you have any version of it on your computer, get it off, it will cause you nothing but problems. It is a Trojan Horse that actually introduces more problems to your computer, which Systweak will "fix" for hundreds more dollars. STAY AWAY!!!

Similar complaints are getting found at the site RipoffReport.

At Postseek,com is documented, that the software is not easy to get uninstalled and it is very hard to get rid of all the pop ups.

At the Microsoft community is the scam well documented too. There are 11 pages full of this topic

At the complaintsboard.com you'll also find their fraud described,

2-spyware.com: Lists an uninstall solution and a lot of user comments about the Systweak product RegClean Pro:

As you can see from our review, RegClean Pro is legitimate application, but we do not recommend using it. After testing it, we found that it fails to detect all registry errors and also displays exaggerated scan results that are filled with doubtful issues. If you have already purchased it, its owners offer a money guarantee. We would recommend you to use it. If you want to remove RegClean Pro from the system, you can do that by using  SpyHunter or STOPzilla, or by following these manual removal steps:

Bleeping Computer.com has a removal instruction for the people, which cannot get rid of the Systweak product regclean pro. It shows how difficult it is to uninstall the malware from India.

Spybot has published a removal instruction for this kind of malware too,

This list can get endless continued. A Google search of "systweak scam" returns around 285 000 results, a search about "systweak malware" returns around 343 000 results and a search about "systweak scareware" 74 100 resuilts.

Even a court order for a similar scam gets found at onguardonline.gov:

A U.S. District Court recently ordered the operators of several international tech support scams to pay more than $5.1 million for convincing people that their computers were riddled with viruses and then charging for bogus support services.

We’ve (onguardonline.gov) written before about tech support scammers. They call and claim to work for well-known companies like Microsoft, Norton or McAfee. They say your computer is infected with malware and then ask for remote access so they can “fix” it. Or they place ads in online search results to trick you into calling them.

 

So don't use their software. You'll get scammed. The calls for the provided numbers are getting traded in the call center industry in Asia. There will be even some others get found, which try to copy the system.

Products from systweak:

 

  • Advanced Disk Recovery
  • Advanced Driver Updater
  • Advanced Email Backup
  • Advanced Email Printer
  • Advanced Email Utilities
  • Advanced Privacy Protector
  • Advanced System Optimizer
  • Advanced System Protector
  • Anvanced Vista Optimizer
  • Boost XP
  • CacheBoost Professional
  • Cacheboost Server Edition
  • Disk Speedup
  • Memory Zipper Plus
  • Mobile Junk Cleaner
  • Mobile Registry Cleaner
  • Mobile Startup Cleaner
  • Netbook Optimizer
  • RegClean Pro
  • Right Backup
  • System Speedup
  • Systweak Photo Album
  • Systweak Photo Studio
  • TuneupMyMac
  • WinClean Pro

 

 

systweak.com whois:

Domain Name: SYSTWEAK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 77920662_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2013-07-29T07:59:02.00Z
Creation Date: 2001-09-28T11:40:21.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2022-09-28T11:40:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: SHRISHAIL RANA
Registrant Organization: SYSTWEAK INC
Registrant Street: E-73,CHITRANJAN MARG,
Registrant Street: C-SCHEME
Registrant City: JAIPUR
Registrant State/Province: RAJASTHAN
Registrant Postal Code: 302001
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.1412367857
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +91.911412562982
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: GO4HOSTING HOSTMASTER
Admin Organization: CYBER FUTURISTICS-GO4HOSTING
Admin Street: D-61,SHIV HEERA PATH,C-SCHEME,
Admin City: JAIPUR
Admin State/Province: IN
Admin Postal Code: 302001
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +1.911412770440
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +91.911412363604
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: SHRISHAIL RANA
Tech Organization: SYSTWEAK INC
Tech Street: E-73,CHITRANJAN MARG,C-SCHEME
Tech City: JAIPUR
Tech State/Province: RAJASTHAN
Tech Postal Code: 302001
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +91.1412367857
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: .911412562982
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: DNS1.STABLETRANSIT.COM
Name Server: DNS2.STABLETRANSIT.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
 

Systweak India _ JAIPUR,...an _ Microsoft Pinpoint.pdf (308.08 kb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link to the Facebook profile Susan Swanson Speulda (https://www.facebook.com/susan.speulda) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

 

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