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Scammer from U.S. - Mel Puleo - cmpuleoconsulting.com
by Rudolf Faix Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:16 AM

C.M. PuleoAs more a scammer is in need of earning some money as more unbelievable are coming their offers. One of this scammers is Mel Puleo from cmpuleoconsulting.com. Everybody should know that the margin in the electronics industry are very tight. As more vendors are coming up on the market as lower coming the average prices and margins. That happens in each industry and not only in the electronics and solar industry.

Some background information about prices and margins are getting found by a Google search. For example is written at CleanTechnica from February 2014:

However, prices vary tremendously by region. “Common residential system prices ranged from less than $3.00/W to just above $7.00/W,” the Solar Energy Industries Association wrote in 2014 regarding 2013 figures. The story hasn’t changed much since then, even though prices on both ends have come down.

Woodlawn Associates shows the possible margins a little bit better in their article The Economics of Residential Solar Installation:

The average dealer in our most recent project had revenue of $4.60 per Watt DC ($5.54 per Watt AC) over the past 12 months. The typical dealer had a cost to install of $3.71 per Watt — 80% of revenue. Earlier this year, we found dealers spend an average of 17% of revenue to acquire customers. This leaves only 3% for general and administrative expenses and profit, suggesting typical installer profits are slim. Consider that over the past year Real Goods Solar, the only publically traded firm in the residential installation industry, had G&A expenses alone that averaged 6% of revenue. (Real Goods also lost money during this period.)

The above example shows that not more than 15% - 17% from the complete costs of a solar system can get used for acquiring customers. Don't forget that the costs from Mel Puleo and her C.M. Puleo Consulting company are already included in these costs as he is nothing else running than a consulting company and the trading company makes already no earnings by paying these commission rates. Who will work for free?

By observing the facts from above you need to take a look at the spam offer from Mel Puleo - C.M. Puleo Consulting:

From: Mel Puleo, Solar [mailto:mel@cmpuleoconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Highest Payout for Solar campaign up to 7K/sale

To whom it may concern:

Our company is seeking experienced Telemarketing center in sales. The solar energy industry is growing rapidly in CA and we are building our sales team to meet the demand.

Compensation for each sale can range from $4K to $10K and beyond.

This is the most competitive Compensation in the industry bar none.

$500.00 commission is paid upfront the following week on every sale, the rest gets paid out on install [30/35 days out from the date of sale]

Our Floor commissions include “NO Adders”, this means you keep 100% of your earned compensation, no other Company offers this, and can typically eat away at your overall commission by 30 to 60%.

We will only entertain nothing less than 10 agents to start.

If you're 100% confident, you have killer closers & you feel that your center has what it takes to close over the phone, we have the best trainer in the industry “BAR NONE” that will walk you by the hand until you can fly on your own.

We are also looking for Appointment Setters, call for comp plan.

Feel free to contact us via skype or thru the phone listed below.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thank you.
--

Best Regards,

Mel Puleo

President

C.M. Puleo Consulting

Contact #: (305)-527-8085

mel@cmpuleoconsulting.com

skype: carmine-puleo

The scam gets already shown in the above sentence "Compensation for each sale can range from $4K to $10K and beyond", because a typical solar energy installation for house has less than 5kW and has a usually price range of less than US$ 20,000. If we calculate from this price the maximum from 17% total paid commission than we get including the earnings from C.M. Puleo Consulting only US$ 3,400 and not US$ 4,000 like written in the email offer for the center.

If we take a look at the site Recruiter about the average income from a solar sales representative, than we'll find there the following statement:

A Solar Sales Representative or Assessor gets a compensation ranging between 64000 and 96000 depending on experience and domain knowledge. Solar Sales Representatives and Assessors earn a compensation of Eighty Four Thousand Four Hundred dollars each year.

An average income from US$ 84,400 per year equals to US$ 7,033 per month. Such a sales person needs only to sell two solar systems per month to be a profit for his company if the commission for each sale is US$ 4,000.

As the salary from the sales representative cannot get replaced with telemarketing agents how many sales such a sales representative needs to make per day that the telemarketer and the sales representative are able to earn their income?

Don't forget that from the before calculated total possible commission of US$ 3,400 per sale has to get paid the telemarketer, the sales representative and C. M.Puleo Consulting Company. I hope everybody sees now the scam in the offer above.

Real companies are going offshore for increasing their earnings by lowering their cost per sale and not to spend more. Especially in the technical industry are the margins very tight and each company tries to reduce their own costs. For this reason is already the offer from C.M. Puleo nothing else than a big lie. Under these circumstances are coming the complaints about C.M. Puleo Consulting believable which get found at:

A few from the complains listed above got written by the same person, but that does not make them unbelievable. Combined with the other complaints they are making sense. Especially the Ripoff Report from August 2, 2012 where Mel Puleo complains David Hjorth shows the fails and/or scam history from Mel Puleo:

All the above facts are showing what C. M. Puleo is understanding under business: Having an idea and the earnings, others should risk their hard earned money, doing the work and cry for their earnings because they will not get paid and the investment will never returned. I call such a behavior scam.

The domain registration data of cmpuleoconsulting.com:

Domain Name: cmpuleoconsulting.com
Registry Domain ID: 1777649011_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/
Updated Date: 2016-01-29T00:48:49Z
Creation Date: 2013-02-01T04:45:09Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-01T04:45:09Z
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Registrar IANA ID: 2
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@web.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
Reseller: 
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Carmelo Puleo
Registrant Organization: C.M. Puleo Consulting LLC
Registrant Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Registrant City: North Miami Beach
Registrant State/Province: FL
Registrant Postal Code: 33160
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3055278085
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant Fax: 
Registrant Fax Ext.:
Registrant Email: melpoint83@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Carmelo Puleo
Admin Organization: C.M. Puleo Consulting LLC
Admin Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Admin City: North Miami Beach
Admin State/Province: FL
Admin Postal Code: 33160
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.3055278085
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin Fax: 
Admin Fax Ext.:
Admin Email: melpoint83@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Carmelo Puleo
Tech Organization: C.M. Puleo Consulting LLC
Tech Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Tech City: North Miami Beach
Tech State/Province: FL
Tech Postal Code: 33160
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.3055278085
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech Fax: 
Tech Fax Ext.:
Tech Email: melpoint83@gmail.com
Name Server: ns14.wixdns.net
Name Server: ns15.wixdns.net
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ 
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-29T00:48:49Z <<<

Update March 12, 2016: A Mel from using the IP address from Costa Rica 190.108.73.13 sent the following message using the contact function of my blog:

Remove this immediately!! or my lawyer will be contacting you on monday morning!!! This is ridicules!!!! My wife and I work ungodly hrs, and for someone who clearly has just way to-much time on their hands to sit behind a PC and make up all this bullshit is beyond what words can describe! I need to know who was the person who placed this as we will spare no expense to go after them legally!!


http://blog.wwpa.com/post/2016/03/12/scammer-from-u-s-mel-puleo-cmpuleoconsulting-com.aspx

 

Author information

Name: Mel
E-mail: melp82@gmail.com
IP address: 190.108.73.13
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_5) AppleWebKit/601.4.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0.3 Safari/537.86.4

Already the content of the message shows the character from the person. Instead of explaining where I'm wrong with my opinion, he is threatens only with legal action. The only problem is that he needs to show some evidence in front of the law court. He should also read the full legal disclaimer from this site for knowing my address too. He will need it for selecting the court and in front of the court.

 

Advance Billing, Advance Payment and Payout US$ 10/Agent/Hour
by Rudolf Faix Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM

Don't worry! We're from the InternetSounds good? Does it not sound too good to be true? Think about it. The center owner needs only to pay the travel costs of the trainer!

You are right. Sure, it is a plain advance fee scam. It is the newest idea from the well-known scammer Christine Wisner. Scam reports about Christine Wisner are getting already found at:

Let us take first a look at the terms the scammers are using for their unbelievable offers:

  • Advance Billing
    A billing is every time in advance and does not include an "advance payment". Nobody will pay before he gets a bill. For this reason is a bill nothing else than a simple form without any value if the bill does not get accepted from the recipient. You don't have any guarantee that the bill will get paid.

    Let us take an example: Even the supermarket cashier makes your bill in advance, before he receives the payment. At this time the supermarket cashier even does not know if you are able to pay the sum. That is called "advance billing". The only difference between the scam offers from the social networks and the supermarket is that the customer has to pay the bill before leaving with the purchased goods the supermarket.

  • Advance Payment
    Let me use the same supermarket example for the "Advance payment". If you enter the supermarket and before you take the shopping cart you have to pay the goods which you like to buy. Afterwards you collect your merchandise and go to the cashier again. The cashier will check if you have not taken more than you have paid in advance. For the case you have taken more than you have paid you need to pay the difference. You'll get some money back for the case you did not find all the goods you liked to buy.

    Would you choose such a supermarket for your daily needs? If your answer is no then ask yourself why someone should be someone so stupid and pay you before you did the work? Do you really think that others are silly? A successful business owner does not give you money as a gift. He is only successful because he knows his business and is not irrational acting.

Only scammers are writing such offers into the social networks and are hoping to find a senseless person which is paying their advance fee (however they are calling it - security deposit, consultancy fee, VoIP costs, etc.):

PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDITED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN STARTEC TELICOM AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.

Startec Telecom, full name Startec Global Communications Corp, shares are getting traded at the NASDAQ. At their NASDAQ profile is written:

STARTEC is a rapidly growing, facilities-based international long distance carrier which markets its services to select ethnic U.S. residential communities that have significant international long distance usage. Additionally, to maximize the efficiency of its network

At Startec's company profile is written:

Building on that tradition, Startec is dedicated to being the leading provider of communication services to communities around the globe. Startec services connect worldwide communities spanning the Pacific Rim, Middle East, North Africa, Russia, Central Europe, and North and South America. We provide our services through a flexible network of owned and leased facilities, operating and termination agreements, and resale arrangements. Startec technology assets include an extensive network of IP gateways, international gateways, domestic switches and ownership in undersea fiber optic cables.

Does anybody believe that such a company hires a broker or consultant from Kolkota, India which is a well-known scammer?

Does anyone believe that such a company like Startec Global Telecom is sending a trainer on the costs of the call center from Hongkong to an unknown call center placed in the area of Hyderabad, India?

Such a business behavior would destroy the reputation of a company. The share values of Startec Global Telecom would in such a case go down to the area of the penny stocks and the responsible person would get fired.

Such a company knows how to hire staff, freelancers and subcontractors. If such a company hires someone than the hired one would get paid from them and not opposite round. As such a company is dealing with VoIP they would even make the recordings by themselves and you would even not have the chance to manipulate or edit them. For this reason and the reasons found above is the offer nothing else than a scam.

This scam gets initiated from Christine Wisner and afterwards she changes her identity to Joslyn March and uses the Skype ID joslyn.paul103. At this profile is written that she is from Toronto, Canada. She likes to get a flight ticket from Hongkong to your place while she is chatting from Kolkota, India. Here is her Skype profile:

Skype profile of the scammer Joslyn March - joslyn.paul103

The picture in the above profile got stolen from a photo model and should hide her real nationality.

By searching at Google for the exact phrase "client can stop the process with out any notice during the first 15 days trial period" I found another offer at the already well-known scammer platform SaveBpo.com:

The complete offer of the "US INBOUND CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE WITH VERY GOOD PAYOUT" campaign (.pdf) is the following:

CAMPAIGN : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE
PAYOUT : $10 / Hour / AGENT
TIMING : 24 X 7
NUMBER OF AGENTS : 10 agents 24 x 7
ADVANCE BILLING : 15 DAYS PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
TRAINING : PROVIDED BY CLIENT ( 5 DAYS ). UNPAID TRAINING
PROCESS DETAILS : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE. INBOUND CALLS AND EMAIL.
CENTRE MUST COVER THE EXPENSE FOR CLIENTS CENTRE VISIT
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDIATED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN xxxxxxxxxx AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.
COMMERCIAL PART IS INVOLVED PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME

Here gets even offered $10 per hour per agent for a not existing campaign. Which support can get given to the caller if the agent cannot get access to the customer database? Remember that AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for copied/stolen customer data during an outsourcing process. Why shall one company take the risk to get fined like AT&T?

The next question is why a company likes to outsource some telemarketing campaigns offshore? The answer is very simple, they like to save money by taking advantage of a lower wage in the offshore country. If we take a look at the average payment for telemarketers in the USA then the offered payment is the same like in the USA. By taking a look at PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States, than we see that the average salary is $10.07 and the minimum is $7.86 (data from September 2015):

PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States - September 2015

By looking at the data above, we see that telemarketers can get hired for less than $8 per hour. So why should hire a company from the U.S. a broker or consultant from India and offer a higher payment for the telemarketers. A company from the United States can hire and fire in the U.S. telemarketers for less and how they need them. Even the fee for the man-in-the-middle, the useless broker or consultant from India, can get saved in such a case.

Additional gets the same campaign under the tite "US Telecom Customer Service Inbound Only One Slot Available" (.pdf) found at the scammer platform BPO Project World from India. At this site shows the scammer how urgent he needs already money, because he writes that only one slot is remaining on this not existing campaign. Additional have even 12 amateur or "like to be" call centers asked for more information.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to http://www.bpoprojectworld.in/us-telecom-customer-service-inbound-only-one-slot-available/ and http://www.savebpo.com/project/us-inbound-customer-care-service-good-payout/ removed as they are already returning error 404 - not found.

 

Very Suspicious: jhagvi.com - MIyan Shafeeq - Jhagvi Limited - JPL International
by Rudolf Faix Monday, June 8, 2015 5:51 AM

JHAGVI Limitedjhagvi.com is sending out mass emails by using the list service from mcsv.net (USA) with a lot of suspicious campaigns for call centers. If we take a closer look at them, then we can see that they even don't know their own address.

What makes them suspicious:

  • The given address in the email, 8369 NW 66 ST #8006, MIAMI, FL 33166, is a mail forwarding service in Florida - usabox.com.
  • In their email they are calling themselves Jhagvi Limited
  • At their website they are calling themselves JPL International with the add-on Advance Solutions for your business development
  • House at 10 Rushcliffe Rise, Nottingham, NG5 3HJ, United KingdomAt their website are provided the addresses UK OFFICE: 10 Rushcliffe Rise, Nottingham, NG5 3HJ, United Kingdom and USA OFFICE: 8369 NW 66 ST #8006, MIAMI, FL 33166, United States (the mail forwarding service of usabox.com).
    The history of the house given at UK address (picture at the right) can get found at rightmove.co.uk. If you are using the street-view provided from rightmove.co.uk and Google, you can see that there is no company and the area is a plain residential area.
  • At their LinkedIn profile is one more address provided: Main office: 400 Minuteman Rd Andover, MA 01810, United States with a staff count of 501 - 1000 and founded 2001. At this address gets only found the professional division of The Weather Company wsi.com. The provided address is a FAKE!
  • The domain jhagvi.com is registered to the private person MIyan Shafeeq with the address 9 billington road,London se14 5qh, GB.
  • A company, which is located in Massachusetts, does not use a mail forwarding service for an address in Florida
  • A company, which is located in USA, will not host their Website in Denmark
  • A company, which is located in USA, will not use an registrar for their domain from Denmark
  • A company, which got founded 2001 (LinkedIn), will not wait until July 25, 2010 for registering their domain, especially a company from USA.
  • The last creation date of the domain jhagvi.com is from December 2, 2013
  • Domaintools is reporting 21 historical whois record and 14 webhosting DNS events since Jul 25, 2010. It seems for me that they even did not have enough money to pay the hosting and domain registration fees or they had a problem with their addresses and did not get the bills. :)
  • Their Facebook page got created on December 5, 2010
  • Their first uploaded pictures are from an open house event from JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), a subdivision from the NASA in Pasadena, uploaded December 6, 2010. That are private pictures and have nothing to do with a company JPL International.
  • Their Facebook history shows that they even don't know what they are doing. For me it has the view that they a trying every business and fail in each case:
    Dec 8, 2010: environmental and occupational health and safety management system. JPL is also among the few companies in Saudi Arabia to implement SAP (ERP) software across all site locations in KSA.
    Dec 8, 2010: JPL specialises in large scale oil and gas pipeline construction, along with water transmission projects by leveraging new age construction technologies for over four decades now. JPL has the second largest fleet of equipments in the oil and gas construction industry in India.
    Dec 10, 2010: Our state-of-the-art offshore call centers provide highly specialized and professional services
    July 23, 2011: Get Your Free Business Website Now! JPL, Inc. is now giving away FREE Websites (w/ Hosting) to New & Existing Clients that will outsource their Accounting & Payroll Process with us for just 1 Year. Save a lot on Cost! Let JPL, Inc. take care of your Back Office Needs.
    September 30, 2011: Telemarketer - Work From Home.. Full time permanent Jobs
  • They tried it even with bragging on their Facebook page:
    October 30, 2011: As a valued client of "JPL", you will enjoy all the benefits of a state-of-the-art data center located in Chicago, Illinois, and owned by the JPL Networks, which also provides the physical environment necessary for keeping the servers up and running 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
    The same picture get found at 136 sites and shows The Wells Street Tower:701 S. Wells. A data center is there and places for servers can get rented. You can be sure that the place is not owned by JPL International. They some impression they like to make with another Facebook entry from April 8, 2012, where they are showing the data center of the company Global Switch in Australia. JPL has nothing to do with them. Maybe they try to be a reseller of the services there.
  • Two more addresses are getting found at Facebook:
    July 11, 2011: New Office for Abu Dhabi
    JPL Abu Dhabi have moved to a new office, to accommodate expanding staff. The new office is conveniently located , near Abu Dhabi Mall.
    Our new address is:
    Suite 107. Al Fahad Building, 10th Street, Abu Dhabi
    Conveniently located behind the Ajman Bank and Emirates Insurance Building.
    Google does not find any JPL company at the above address

    March 31, 2012: New Office Opening Ceremony Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 6:00pm
    Shanyuan Street, Zhongguancun, Haidian, Beijing
    The only entry, which gets found at Google at this area is: GAN-GAR - Stardust JPL NASA
    16 Jul 2001 LUKE GAO QI GAO SHAN GAO SHANYUAN GAO WANQING GAO GARBERDINE SIL GARBERDINE RAMONA GARBERS JULIAN W.
  • At the offered Home Security Campaign are leads provided. That is against the US law.
  • The in the email offered campaigns don't get found at the site http://campaigns.jhagvi.com/
  • Alexa says about the domain jhagvi.com: We don't have enough data to rank this website.
    That means the big international company is a big secret at the world wide web. Nobody is visiting the website.

My opinion: We have here a a scammer, which likes to give the impression of a big company. This scammer is not able to finance his own life, because he seems not be able to pay the hosting and domain registration fees in time. Everybody, which likes to make business with him gets pulled over the table.

 

The spam email with the unbelievable offers:

From: Matt Midthun [mailto:info=jhagvi.com@mail228.atl121.mcsv.net] On Behalf Of Matt Midthun
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 8:21 AM
To: =?utf-8?Q??=
Subject: Hot Offers --- June 2015

 

Hot Offers --- June 2015

 

We have New CPL and Pay Per Call offers, for which we are looking Call Centers / Lead Generators with existing traffic.

 

 

1. US Auto Insurance Lead Generation

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: NO

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $3.50

Paid Out: Net 30

Other Instructions: PERFECT ENGLISH AND ABILITY TO SOUND AMERICAN IS GOOD

 

2. US Auto Insurance Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $5 per successful and qualified transfer

Paid Out: Weekly net 7

3. US Mortgage Refi Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $14.00 per call if connect_duration > 120 sec and in_region and during_hours

Paid Out: Weekly net 7

 

4. US Credit Card Debt Settlement Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $20 per call if connect duration is 90 Sec and in_regions and during hours

Paid Out: Weekly net 7

 

5. US Back Brace Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $20 per call if connect duration is 90 Sec and in_regions and during hours

Paid Out: Weekly net 7

 

6. US Solar Energy Lead Generation

Target Area: USA (CA Only)

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $20

Paid Out: bi-Weekly net 15

 

7. US Auto Waranty Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $20

Paid Out: bi-Weekly Net 15

 

 

8. US Education Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $8 per Match and $35 WT to schools

Paid Out: Monthly Net 15

 

 

9. US Health Insurance Live Transfer

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $6.50 per transfer if connect duration 120 sec

Paid Out: Monthly Net 15

 

10. US Home Security Sale

Target Area: USA

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: Yes

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $250-$1250 per install

Paid Out: Weekly Net 14

 

11. UK Auto Loans CPL

Target Area: United Kingdom

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $3

Paid Out: Monthly Net 15

 

 

12. UK Short Terms Loan CPL

Target Area: United Kingdom

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $35

Paid Out: Monthly Net 15

 

13. UK Car Finance Sale Process

Target Area: United Kingdom

B2b or B2C: B2C

Script Provided: YES

Leads Provided: No

Agents To Start: 10

Payout: $200

Paid Out: Monthly Net 15

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Scamadviser says about jhagvi.com:

Suspicious - Review The Data Below
Site is Denmark based, but may also be from the United Kingdom

Website: jhagvi.com
Title: Home
Domain Age: 1 Years, 187 Days
Website Speed: Average
Owner: MIyan Shafeeq
Owner Address: 9 billington road
Owner City: London
Owner Postcode: se14 5qh
Owner Country : United Kingdom

Website Location: Denmark
Probable website origin:-
75%; Denmark
18%; United Kingdom
7%; Netherlands

Notes:-
Alert Result: This website is 1 Years old

Domain registry data:

Domain Name: jhagvi.com
Registry Domain ID: 1837617340_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ascio.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ascio.com
Updated Date: 2014-11-02T00:23:01Z
Creation Date: 2013-12-02T12:02:03Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-12-02T12:02:06Z
Registrar: Ascio Technologies, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 106
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@ascio.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +44.2070159370
Reseller:
Domain Status: OK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: MIyan Shafeeq
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 9 billington road
Registrant City: London
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: se14 5qh
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.7937946819
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: shafeeq1@live.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Host Master
Admin Organization: One.com
Admin Street: Kalvebod Brygge 24
Admin City: Copenhagen V
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code: 1560
Admin Country: DK
Admin Phone: +45.46907100
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +45.70205872
Admin Fax Ext:
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Why all these offered offshore outsourcing campaigns where customer data are involved are nothing else then SCAM?
by Rudolf Faix Tuesday, May 5, 2015 3:08 AM

toys phone cellsLet us take a look first at the data protection law from Australia, European Union and the USA. All this directives and orders have in common that the consumer data are protected by law and this one which has collected them is responsible for the proper use of the collected data. If the data are getting used wrong, then this one, which has collected the data, is responsible in front of the law court for the misusage of the data. The fines are very high. It is not allowed to make data accessible in countries, where this data don’t have at least the same protection like in the country they got collected in respect of the law. Even if consumer data are getting stolen, the company will get prosecuted.

The fines for breaking the law are very high. You can see an example how high the fines are in the article “Data of 280,000 customers stolen: AT & T lost over $ 25 million”. Why companies shall take the risk for paying high fines for making their data accessible to offshore centers? Especially if they find out how the data are getting traded in the call center industry. The following screenshot from Facebook is showing how protected data are getting offered:

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The above screenshot is only one example from many. Such data are not getting offered only on Facebook. You can find such offers at LinkedIn and a lot of sites.

As long as in your country is not the same or a better data protection rule guaranteed by law you are only able to use the already heavy used data, which are traded between the centers. This called one will not be really in the mood to buy something.

Even companies which are transferring consumer data between the USA and the European Union need to be certified by the international U.S.-EU Save Harbor Framework. The certification need to get renewed yearly. You can read about a judgment at "FTC Settles with Two Companies Falsely Claiming to Comply with International Safe Harbor Privacy Framework".

The next problem for call centers is the “Do Not Call List” where you have to scrub up your data against the list. You are declaring by signing up to the Don’t Call List that you are telemarketer and you’ll respect the local law. In this case you make yourself prosecutable to the local law and this law can get executed because you have accepted it before. Ignoring the Don’t Call List can result in high fines. The fines can get international prosecuted.

The next problem for call centers is the “Do Not Call List” where you have to scrub up your data against the list. You are declaring by signing up to the Don’t Call List that you are telemarketer and you’ll respect the local law. In this case you make yourself prosecutable to the local law and this law can get executed because you have accepted it before. Ignoring the Don’t Call List can result in high fines. The fines can get international prosecuted. An example of such a judgment can get read at "Court Grants Partial Summary Judgment in FTC Case Against Dish Network, Finding the Company Liable for Tens of Millions of Telemarketing Violations". That such judgments can get international prosecuted if proven by "Federal Court Orders Tech Support Scammers to Pay More Than $5.1 Million". All the Indian companies, which have been involved in this case, have been running into bankruptcy.

Centers you are searching for inbound campaigns? Think about who will be calling a company. What can you do with an inbound caller if you don’t have access to the consumer data because they are protected by law? For this are all inbound campaigns nothing else then SCAM.

Centers you are searching for form filling processes? Think about which data you need to put into a form. Since years all the consumer data are getting collected at the point of sales. In the USA even the signature get collected from digitizer pad. For copy and paste nobody will pay your agents. There are enough programs for automatize the process available. They are even cheaper than the salary of one agent for a month. For this reason all form filling processes are only scam.

If you think now logically, then you know why all this inbound campaigns and form filling processes are only getting offered with a huge upfront payment. Even the scammer has no other chance to get some money if he does not get it from you. He has no chance to get such a process and cheat you after you have done the work.

Even the client tries to burden all the legal risks to the centers by hiring them on a pay per sale base. For this they can say in front of the law court that they have only bought some leads from you and you have been working on your own risk.

A serious client will support you with phone numbers based on his selection. This phone numbers will be already scrubbed against the Do Not Call list. He will also provide you with an extension to his own phone system because he likes that the called ones are coming back to him for the case they have some questions or need some help.

A serious client will hire a marketing agency in his own country or living area and not a suspicious campaign broker from a low wage country, which try to make money with his campaign. The hired agency has the order to search for the best center for the client and gets paid from the client directly.

All other kinds of clients will burden you up the legal risk and they will provide you with products, which are already well-known from the email spam. For the case that you’ll not make enough sales to survive they even will tell you that you should buy some better data and to provide a better work. They even will lie you by telling that other centers are making sales with each call.

 

Top Outsourcing Concerns
by Rudolf Faix Monday, March 2, 2015 1:30 AM

Hiring an offshore call center provider can make even the most seasoned executive a little bit nervous. In reality, there are many reasons to be nervous. An external company is being hired to speak directly with your customers on your behalf. However, these concerns can be overcome by hiring the right call center. 

Here are the top outsourcing concerns:

  1. Scam
    You'll find scam everywhere where business is done. Especially by doing business over the Internet. For this make a background check about your future business partner. Scammer are lazy, they are even to lazy that they are informing themselves about the business. For this are able to find out if you are talking with a real business partner by asking him specific questions about his work. A scammer will not be able to give you a suitable answer to your questions.

  2. Quality
    You know your product best. If you provide quality by a good presentation of your product, a good FAQ, the differences to your competitors and good sales arguments then it will be easy to get the telemarketers trained to sell your product.

    Don't choose cheap Internet offers for buying the data, which the telemarketer shall call. This data are already heavy used and for this is it difficult to sell something by calling. People, which are already angry at the time picking up their phone, will very seldom take an advantage of even a good offer. The most good data provider are only selling their data packages only inside the country. For this is it very hard for an offshore call center to get such quality data.
    You get what you pay for - nobody is able to work for free for you and a call center is not a data provider. Quality call centers will use your data only for your campaigns.

    So many outsourcing companies do not provide dialing data. Reason is they don't wanna mess with keeping the center up to date, because the company have their agents and other tons of center they work with. In many cases company pays huge amount to other companies in place of giving them data . That is exactly the wrong way for a successful outsourcing. 

    Choose a call center where the agent is immediately on the phone when he calls you. Playing a prerecorded message first will tell to the called one, that a call center is calling, which likes to sell something to him. The most of the dialer are working in a different way. There the agent picks up the phone only if the called one is already in the line.

  3. Loss of control
    Quality call centers are offering features, which are giving you the same possibilities like at an inhouse call center. You can can get:
    * actual status of the calls done for you
    * a spy connection where you can listen the actual call
    * recordings immediately after the hangup of the call
    * actual online call detail records after the call ended
    * a direct connection to the agents working for you
    Use all this possibilities for make the best out of your outsourcing process. The only difference to an inhouse call center is that you can communicate with "your" agents only over the phone or by using some messenger like Skype, Viber, Whatsapp, etc.

  4. Language
    The accent is not so important like the sales talent of the agent. Our best telemarketer in Austria is coming from Romania. If your mother tongue is German, than you hear that she is not a native German speaker, but it does not matter if she sell something to a customer coming from Austria, Germany or Switzerland. She has in any case success. So don't overweight the language barrier. The sale can be even be easier for such people than for native speakers.

  5. Price
    Offshore outsourcing is cheaper than to run your own call center, but don't expect that the big savings are already during the first month. You have to invest some time into the training of "your" agents and you have to listen to the recordings and tell them where they are making failures and give them some information how they can improve their performance. It is the same work like you need to do by hiring a new staff. The savings are coming with the time. Mostly they are starting during the second month.

 

 

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