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Advance Billing, Advance Payment and Payout US$ 10/Agent/Hour

Don't worry! We're from the InternetSounds good? Does it not sound too good to be true? Think about it. The center owner needs only to pay the travel costs of the trainer!

You are right. Sure, it is a plain advance fee scam. It is the newest idea from the well-known scammer Christine Wisner. Scam reports about Christine Wisner are getting already found at:

Let us take first a look at the terms the scammers are using for their unbelievable offers:

  • Advance Billing
    A billing is every time in advance and does not include an "advance payment". Nobody will pay before he gets a bill. For this reason is a bill nothing else than a simple form without any value if the bill does not get accepted from the recipient. You don't have any guarantee that the bill will get paid.

    Let us take an example: Even the supermarket cashier makes your bill in advance, before he receives the payment. At this time the supermarket cashier even does not know if you are able to pay the sum. That is called "advance billing". The only difference between the scam offers from the social networks and the supermarket is that the customer has to pay the bill before leaving with the purchased goods the supermarket.

  • Advance Payment
    Let me use the same supermarket example for the "Advance payment". If you enter the supermarket and before you take the shopping cart you have to pay the goods which you like to buy. Afterwards you collect your merchandise and go to the cashier again. The cashier will check if you have not taken more than you have paid in advance. For the case you have taken more than you have paid you need to pay the difference. You'll get some money back for the case you did not find all the goods you liked to buy.

    Would you choose such a supermarket for your daily needs? If your answer is no then ask yourself why someone should be someone so stupid and pay you before you did the work? Do you really think that others are silly? A successful business owner does not give you money as a gift. He is only successful because he knows his business and is not irrational acting.

Only scammers are writing such offers into the social networks and are hoping to find a senseless person which is paying their advance fee (however they are calling it - security deposit, consultancy fee, VoIP costs, etc.):


Startec Telecom, full name Startec Global Communications Corp, shares are getting traded at the NASDAQ. At their NASDAQ profile is written:

STARTEC is a rapidly growing, facilities-based international long distance carrier which markets its services to select ethnic U.S. residential communities that have significant international long distance usage. Additionally, to maximize the efficiency of its network

At Startec's company profile is written:

Building on that tradition, Startec is dedicated to being the leading provider of communication services to communities around the globe. Startec services connect worldwide communities spanning the Pacific Rim, Middle East, North Africa, Russia, Central Europe, and North and South America. We provide our services through a flexible network of owned and leased facilities, operating and termination agreements, and resale arrangements. Startec technology assets include an extensive network of IP gateways, international gateways, domestic switches and ownership in undersea fiber optic cables.

Does anybody believe that such a company hires a broker or consultant from Kolkota, India which is a well-known scammer?

Does anyone believe that such a company like Startec Global Telecom is sending a trainer on the costs of the call center from Hongkong to an unknown call center placed in the area of Hyderabad, India?

Such a business behavior would destroy the reputation of a company. The share values of Startec Global Telecom would in such a case go down to the area of the penny stocks and the responsible person would get fired.

Such a company knows how to hire staff, freelancers and subcontractors. If such a company hires someone than the hired one would get paid from them and not opposite round. As such a company is dealing with VoIP they would even make the recordings by themselves and you would even not have the chance to manipulate or edit them. For this reason and the reasons found above is the offer nothing else than a scam.

This scam gets initiated from Christine Wisner and afterwards she changes her identity to Joslyn March and uses the Skype ID joslyn.paul103. At this profile is written that she is from Toronto, Canada. She likes to get a flight ticket from Hongkong to your place while she is chatting from Kolkota, India. Here is her Skype profile:

Skype profile of the scammer Joslyn March - joslyn.paul103

The picture in the above profile got stolen from a photo model and should hide her real nationality.

By searching at Google for the exact phrase "client can stop the process with out any notice during the first 15 days trial period" I found another offer at the already well-known scammer platform

The complete offer of the "US INBOUND CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE WITH VERY GOOD PAYOUT" campaign (.pdf) is the following:

PAYOUT : $10 / Hour / AGENT
TIMING : 24 X 7
NUMBER OF AGENTS : 10 agents 24 x 7

Here gets even offered $10 per hour per agent for a not existing campaign. Which support can get given to the caller if the agent cannot get access to the customer database? Remember that AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for copied/stolen customer data during an outsourcing process. Why shall one company take the risk to get fined like AT&T?

The next question is why a company likes to outsource some telemarketing campaigns offshore? The answer is very simple, they like to save money by taking advantage of a lower wage in the offshore country. If we take a look at the average payment for telemarketers in the USA then the offered payment is the same like in the USA. By taking a look at PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States, than we see that the average salary is $10.07 and the minimum is $7.86 (data from September 2015):

PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States - September 2015

By looking at the data above, we see that telemarketers can get hired for less than $8 per hour. So why should hire a company from the U.S. a broker or consultant from India and offer a higher payment for the telemarketers. A company from the United States can hire and fire in the U.S. telemarketers for less and how they need them. Even the fee for the man-in-the-middle, the useless broker or consultant from India, can get saved in such a case.

Additional gets the same campaign under the tite "US Telecom Customer Service Inbound Only One Slot Available" (.pdf) found at the scammer platform BPO Project World from India. At this site shows the scammer how urgent he needs already money, because he writes that only one slot is remaining on this not existing campaign. Additional have even 12 amateur or "like to be" call centers asked for more information.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to and removed as they are already returning error 404 - not found.


Scammer Wesley Jon Pollard - - -

Wesley Jon PollardWesley Jon Pollard seems to be a scammer, but everybody, who’s got scammed from him, is guilty by himself. Wesley Jon Pollard could not show his face in the social networks and he did not have an own domain. He used the free hosting service from weebly for offering his scam campaigns. These people who have got scammed did not make their homework and there has even been nothing for making a background check. Their own greediness by hunting for a campaign has been the reason for their problems now.

At his LinkedIn account from Wesley Jon Pollard we’ll find a recommendation from a LinkedIn member Barry Bermudez. As Barry Bermudez has given him a recommendation is now the question open if Barry Bermudez is a partner in crime or not?

Updated August 28, 2015 (For this part are updates available take a look at the updates at the end of this article): Another partner in crime can be Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano (no public profile - see the pdf at the end of this report). Wesley Jon Pollard has given her a recommendation beginning with the words “Maria was recently appointed Director with us due to certain qualities she can bring on board that benefit our clients from all around the world ….”. This shows that she has been a director and a decision maker in the organization of Wesley Jon Pollard.

Maria was recently appointed Director with us due to certain qualities she can bring on board that benefit our clients from all around the world. She came highly recommended by a present client who had previously worked very closely with her.

She is very detailed orientated, committed and hard working when it comes to getting clients what they need and always places their first, addressing areas that other brokers cannot offer.

Very unique in many ways, we are very delighted to have Maria on board as a director and look forward to seeing her career being even more successful with us.

Another member found out that the name Wesley Pollard is used at the site It can be that Wesley Pollard is coming active again. The domain got registered in Pakistan:

Registry Domain ID: 1901864881_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL:
Updated Date: 2015-04-12T02:28:45Z
Creation Date: 2015-02-10T13:02:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-10T13:02:26Z
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Registrant Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Registrant Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Registrant City: Lahore
Registrant State/Province: Punjab
Registrant Postal Code: 54000
Registrant Country: PK
Registrant Phone: +92.3334268769
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Admin Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Admin Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Admin City: Lahore
Admin State/Province: Punjab
Admin Postal Code: 54000
Admin Country: PK
Admin Phone: +92.3334268769
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Tech Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Tech Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Tech City: Lahore
Tech State/Province: Punjab
Tech Postal Code: 54000
Tech Country: PK
Tech Phone: +92.3334268769
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-25T01:20:27+0000Z<<<

Scamadviser reports about the domain

Warning: A New Site Involving A High Risk Country
Alert Result: Registered contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: Technical contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: Administrative contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: This website is 195 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: This website setup involves countries known to be high risk
Alert Result: This website is likely to be operating from a high risk country

We cannot be sure that Wesley Jon Pollard is active at the site registered in Pakistan, but on the site we find the names Kristy Beede, Wesley Pollard and Scott Bigelow (the name of a wrestler died January 19, 2007). You can observe that not one of these profiles has a picture. Scammers don't like to provide a manhunt picture by themselves.

As we see is the site registered in Pakistan and the provided addresses on the site are:

OBS, Portman Square, Marylebone, W1H. UK
OBS House, Margarita Heights, Batangas, PH. 4200 Tel: +63091506110390
OBS House, Taconic Road, Greenwich CT 06831 USA. Tel: (860) 377-1909

The UK address does not have any house and phone number. This address is incomplete and seems to got invented.

The US address is incomplete too. If you are using Google maps and take a look at the satellite pictures than you see that this is a forest area where you don't find any named houses.

Wesley Jon Pollard is active with his U.S. phone number on Facebook (, LinkedIn ( and Twitter ( He is offering his scams via

The Philippian address from Bantangas is invented too and the phone number is wrong written. Correct written is the phone number +639156110390. This phone number got used from Wesley Jon Pollard in his LinkedIn Pulse postings:

And we can find the same phone numer at the website from

Unit No. 4, Building No. D, Below Panchratna Apartments, Bhairobi Nala, Wanowrie, Fatima Nagar, Pune - 411040

D/25 B P Township, opposite to GouldSmith School Kolkata - 700094

OBS House Margarita heights batangas PH 4200

Screenshot contact details

Domain registration data of

Registry Domain ID: D9085202-AFIN
Registrar WHOIS Server:
Registrar URL:
Update Date: 2015-01-07T06:06:42Z
Creation Date: 2015-01-07T13:06:42Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-07T13:06:42Z
Registrar:, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: CR184611386
Registrant Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Garia
Registrant City: Kolkata
Registrant State/Province: West Bengal
Registrant Postal Code: 700032
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.7767984645
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID: CR184611388
Admin Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Garia
Admin City: Kolkata
Admin State/Province: West Bengal
Admin Postal Code: 700032
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.7767984645
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID: CR184611387
Tech Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Garia
Tech City: Kolkata
Tech State/Province: West Bengal
Tech Postal Code: 700032
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.7767984645
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-25T2:00:00Z <<<

We had a similar scam from Wilpower Infotech - the name of the scammer has been Christine Wisner:

For the case someone has more information or better information about this case please feel free to contact me and I'll include your proves into the posting.

LinkedIn Profile from Wesley Jon Pollard (.pdf) (995.34 kb)

LinkedIn Profile from Barry Bermudez (.pdf) (646.29 kb)

LinkedIn Profile from Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano (.pdf) (686.21 kb)

Facebook Jon Pollard actual profile (.pdf) (4.44 mb)


Updates August 26, 2015

Bruce Young informed me about Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano:

Maria was scammed too Rudolf, she was made and led to believe by Wes too, victims as well. For Barry, Wes, was with his legit company.

Sim Antonio informed me about Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano:

Its just that this Maria is clean, she was a victim as well.

As for Maria, I think she is not aware, what she told me as we did communicate is that she removed all her connections with Wes

I can vouch for you she is clean, she is a victim as well. She is pursuing Wes as well.

Maria was able to removed Wesley's recommendation . Please Sir, she is absolutely a victim here of Wesley as well.

Christopher Caudle sent me the following email:

Hi ref the post some information for you.

Ref Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano I have been assisting in the hunt for Wesley for a long time but ref Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano she has never been nor is a director for any of his companies, I do know that Wesley put all these recommendations on without her knowledge, and she has been trying to get hold of Wesley ever since to have it removed. She does not have a contract with Wesley and she is a freelancer and is NOT employed by the company as a director. Wesley used her to send out all his documents, contracts etc to centres. So i hope you can correct the post made about her as its not true.

I would say that your criticism of centre owners are unjust in this case, as they did due diligence and everyone they spoke to seemed to point to Wesley's out of the box company as being ok.

As a former friend of Wesley (I am no more since this) I can say that as an ex police officer in the uk, that he has committed fraud and theft against centres. Currently the police are fully aware and are acting to make an arrest soon.

So you know how this started I paste below a copy of the email I sent to the Philippine police regarding Wesley, which has finally led to where we are today after a long and exhaustive investigation by me, obtaining contacts he knows, obtaining all phone numbers of him, and his home address.

I think you are doing a fantastic job keep up the good work, I will give you updates as and when i hear from the police via Maria who has been helping me track Wesley as she is as shocked as everyone is more so.

Crime Report Details;

Blotter 1078pg.0038 of 30th July 2015

National Police No +63746611489

Police Officer dealing: PO2 ELVIRA DULNUAN

From: []
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:03 PM
To: '' <>
Cc: '' <>
Subject: Wesley Jon Pollard

Attached photo of Wesley Jon Pollard with his wife and son.

Dear Sir,

I wish to report Wesley Jon Pollard owner of Out of the Box solutions, as missing presumed kidnaped, since 7th July 2015.

The circumstances around his disappearance are as follows.

I have known Wesley Jon Pollard for many years. He lives in the Philippines and owns the company mentioned, which has a large number of important clients on his books. He arranges call centres for his clients, and makes a point of visiting each one to vet the company and ensure their procedures match their application. His mother is Jacqui Pereira, his sister is Corinna Pollard and he has a daughter Mercedes Pollard.

His itinerary was as follows:-

UK left on 3rd July for Philippines

Arrived Philippines on 5th July

Philippines left on 8th July at 15:05 to Malaysia arriving 18:40

Malaysia left on 8th July at 22:10 to Bangalore India arriving 23:40
Staying at Oberi Hotel

Call made by centre owner Naveen Kumar to Wesley on +639156110390 who answered, Mr Naveen Kumar asked if they should meet, Wesley said no he was tired and he was going to sleep, claiming he was in the Oberi hotel.

Bangalore left on 10th July at 07:50 to Delhi arriving 10:35

Delhi left on 10th July at 11:10 to Dehradul arriving 12 noon.
Staying at JW Marriot hotel

13th July visits to a number of centres in Dehradul
14th July staying in same hotel JW Marriot.

Dehradul left on 15th July at 19:40 to Delhi arriving at 20.30

Staying at Leela Palace Hotel

15th July until 21st July staying in Delhi

22nd July left 10:00 to Mumbai arriving at 12:15
Staying at JW Marriot hotel

Was supposed to meet Naveen Kumar as he was to meet at the centre at 9am, Mr Naveen called him and asked shall he pick him up, to which Wesley said no I have my own arrangement.
Wesley did not show up

Wesley was supposed to be in Mumbai until 27th.

I have checked with all hotels and he neither stayed at the hotels nor made any reservations. His laptop is on and he is showing as away on skype, this is unusual when he goes away he always shows offline. Also he is not answering his mobile, which is again unusual, as he is always contactable. He has not been on his Facebook page since 7th July and we cannot make any contact with him whatsoever.

It is my opinion having served for 10 years with the British Police (now retired) that Wesley Jon Pollard was not in India and never arrived there, I do not believe he was in Malaysia either, and that he is somewhere in the Philippines possibly kidnapped.

He did on a call when drunk one day say to his representative, that he had a million in the bank, this could easily have been overheard, but this is conjecture.

As he still is missing and his clients and centres are very worried about their contracts, I have taken over to try to help Maria Reburiano save his business from problems and I am talking with clients and centres to assure them that Wesley will contact them soon.

I therefore formally request that this case is looked into as a missing person possibly kidnapped, and that appropriate resources are engaged to find Wesley and ensure his safety and safe return.

Lord Christopher Caudle
Direct DDI (+44) 1865731223

Lord Caudle


Update September 8, 2015:

Christopher Caudle likes to get some more publicity in this case and tried to impress me with the following statements on Skype:

From a legal standpoint as it can still be clearly read it would come under slander and libel, as it was not true, the hosting company would also be liable as well. I'm only just saying as I was in the police for 10 years so I know. I would not want to see maria take it down a legal route, which might happen anyway if she ended up harming herself because of all this. Do let me know what you think Rudolf.

That is exactly what everbody likes to read if he is opening Skype. The problem is only that Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano did not only accept the recommendation, where she got called to be a director from Wesley John Pollard, she called herself in her LinkedIn profile "Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano. Title: Director for Sales / BPO (Philippines) at Out of the Box Solutions". As much as I like to help her for the reason that she has tried to help the scammed ones to find Wesley John Pollard, but she has chosen exactly the wrong way for getting help.

The Internet is viral and it is not so easy to get something out of the Internet as many services are archiving the contents. Even Google still lists sites from her publishing, which got already deleted from the source. In her own case you'll find still the entries in Google:
Screenshot Google where Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano calls herself Director of Sales from Out of the Box Solutions

Interesting is in any case that we not only find at Eynsham online an entry where he describes himself as “I served the village as a Section Officer (Sgt) for Thames Valley Police Special Constabulary for 10 years, and started the first Eynsham foot patrols.”, we find an entry at a page with the title “lord chris caudle's Page” (.pdf (197.20 kb)). The page has the first entry from February 2, 2012 (.pdf (180.64 kb)) and the last entry from September 10, 2014. At Christopher Caudle's LinkedIn profile (.pdf (459.36 kb)) does not get anything found about his work as Section Officer. At his LinkedIn profile are only jobs as CEO and chairman listed. It seems that Christopher Caudle is really a multi talent.

Christopher Caudle seems to have a problem with his elf-esteem and likes to title himself to be a Lord. The definition of the British title Lord can get found in the Encyclopaedia Britannica. However the name of Christopher Caudle does not get found in the Members of the UK House of Lords directory.
Christopher Caudle titles himself as Lord Caudle

I don’t know the real background why Christopher Caudle stands up in this way for Maria. Anyone can make his thoughts by himself about the reasons. My opinion is that he thinks to know everything and does not accept any technical arguments from others. He knows the meaning of "it seems to be" otherwise he would not call in his Facebook postings for self-justice, he would use the official and legal way to file his complaints.

I’m sorry for Maria’s publicity in this case and everybody shall accept that she tries to help in the case against Wesley John Pollard. Please don't judge her for her past in this case. Maybe she got cheated too. Everybody is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty and even in the case she get's found guilty for something in this case, is active repentance an extenuation.

Other articles in the connection with the case about Wesley Jon Pollard:


lord-chris-caudle's-Page-CampaignProvider.pdf (197.20 kb)

Lord-Chris-Caudle-(NEW)-UK-PPI-Personal-Injury-Sales-Process.pdf (180.64 kb)

Lord-Caudle-LinkedIn.pdf (459.36 kb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017: The Link to;ProcessType=41&amp;MenuSubID=57 got removed as it already returned error 404 - not found. If you like to know more about Chris Caudle, then visit the page and enter Caudle into the search form. There are some results. :)


Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong

For the case you did not read the start of the scam, then you should start reading at: Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner to get the content of the full case.

As Christine Wisner has not been reachable by any other possibility, I have sent here at 5pm Philippines time a Skype request. Please observe that she is available at her office from 10am until 6pm Philippines time. She accepted the invitation 7 hours and 20 minutes later (0:30am). Normal people, which are working from 10am until 6pm are already sleeping. Only some times they are up at this time.

It even seems that Christine Wisner is not located at the Philippines, because I think that she even don't know the time here. Nobody will make on Skype a conference after midnight. I think that she is located in the German speaking part of Europe or in the USA. The name Wisner and the name Reinhardt, which she tried to use as a reference in the chat, are German names. Only the first name Wendy is not German. There is one more German sounding name involved: Wendy Fischer. The time she has been online is the normal day time in the USA or the evening in Europe.

Christine Wisner is located in India. Her IP address or the proxy, which she is using, is (March 22, 2015 01:18am GMT). This IP has the following information:

General IP Information

Organization: Sistemos Information Technology Private Limited
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP

Geolocation Information for IP:

Country: India
State/Region: West Bengal
City: Kolkata
Postal Code: 700136
Latitude: 22.5697  (22° 34' 10.92? N)
Longitude: 88.3697  (88° 22' 10.92? E)

The given phone numbers in her profile seems to be from a free phone forwarding service, which has been running into bankruptcy or got canceled without prior notice, like it is written in the terms and conditions of such services.

With all here argumentation have been about the comment from Willpower Infotech Limited, which are only an unproven comment to the real facts:

  • The phone numbers +63-2-371 1478 (phone) and +63-2-371 1479 (fax), written in her profile, don't exists and there are no phone directory entries for this phone numbers at the Philippines. A company with land lines will be listed in the public phone directory.

  • The companies,written at her profiles, with the name Western Wood Co., Wildwood Co., Westwood Co. and West Wood Pvt. Ltd. are not existing at the Philippines.

  • The different information about her education at her both profiles

  • The same picture, which is only mirrored and has another cut from the same original

Even the given time has passed for sending me some proves about the above facts. The only result has been that she went in Skype from busy to offline.

As I still have the Austrian Timezone installed at my laptop the time is the Austrian one and not the Philippine time. You have to add 7 hours to the written time.

She could even not give any explanation about this facts in the following Skype chat with me (the screen shots of the chat are attached at the end of this article):

Cristine Wisner


[20.03.2015 10:08:11] *** Rudolf Faix möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen



Hallo christine.wisner, ich möchte Sie als Kontakt aufnehmen. ***

[20.03.2015 17:30:13] *** Christine Wisner hat Kontaktdetails mit Rudolf Faix ausgetauscht. ***

[20.03.2015 19:34:55] Christine Wisner: Hi

[20.03.2015 20:04:34] Christine Wisner: what happened , mr. judgemental !!

[20.03.2015 20:04:55] Christine Wisner: please give your comment and replys ?

[20.03.2015 22:46:01] *** Verpasster Anruf von Christine Wisner. ***

[20.03.2015 22:46:28] Christine Wisner: you should not be pocking nose in others business without knowing things properly !

[20.03.2015 22:48:57] Christine Wisner: I AM WAITIMG TO HEAR FROM YOU MR. JUDGEMENTAL  !!

[20.03.2015 23:27:52] Rudolf Faix: I have been waiting to hear from you yesterday too because I liked to get a statement from you. I have seen that you have even blocked me on LinkedIn. The most of the scammer are doing that, but it does not help them and it makes them only more suspicious!

[20.03.2015 23:29:42] Christine Wisner: Can you come on a call?

[20.03.2015 23:30:12] Rudolf Faix: No, the written word is counting higher than the spoken one.

[20.03.2015 23:31:19] Christine Wisner: that means you should'nt be poking your nose in others business when you don't know the truth

[20.03.2015 23:32:02] Rudolf Faix: I did not hide myself. i have been only sleeping like each normal person.

[20.03.2015 23:32:36] Christine Wisner: if you follow the discussion that has been shared in the group along with the buyer Hope you will understand that you are wrong

[20.03.2015 23:33:13] Rudolf Faix: I have made already the screen shots from this discussion

[20.03.2015 23:33:50] Christine Wisner: somebody said you something and you made a judgement without knowing the fact?

[20.03.2015 23:35:10] Rudolf Faix: I have only listed his "writing" together with his name and I have made some background check and there I have found the two profiles. The two profiles are a fact

[20.03.2015 23:36:09] Christine Wisner: how can you say something about without knowing the fact or working with me?

[20.03.2015 23:36:53] Christine Wisner: I am there in the contact in skype you could have atleast for the truth and proof before you do anything

[20.03.2015 23:37:37] Christine Wisner: you should have some commonsense before you state anything without knowing the fact!

[20.03.2015 23:38:17] Rudolf Faix: Very simple it fit everything together. You blocked me on LinkedIn, you have ther two profiles with different informations which are excluding each other, a company which does not exist and a complaint where you hide yourself instead of trying to solve the conflict. What do I need more for making my opinion?

[20.03.2015 23:39:25] Rudolf Faix: You have been online and you did not respond to my skype invitation.

[20.03.2015 23:40:26] Christine Wisner: once you comment without knowing anything about me we are not genuine thats why I blocked you

[20.03.2015 23:40:48] Rudolf Faix: That says each scammer about himself.

[20.03.2015 23:43:01] Christine Wisner: I will bring centres commenting on the post that you uploaded saying that they all got paid showing their payment proof and proving that you are commenting on someone without knowing the fact and if you can bring other centres who are not paid by Us

[20.03.2015 23:43:38] Christine Wisner: Being an elderly person I should be respecting you and you should also at the same time respect others with their work

[20.03.2015 23:43:47] Rudolf Faix: You are even publishing phone and faxnumbers, which don't ring. What is the sense of it?

[20.03.2015 23:45:46] Christine Wisner: call me accordin to our time zome 10 am -5pm

[20.03.2015 23:45:54] Christine Wisner: you will get hold of me

[20.03.2015 23:46:23] Rudolf Faix: I'm at the Philippines. Only my laptop is showing the Austrian time.

[20.03.2015 23:46:59] Christine Wisner:  but at the end of the day the same question comes !! how can you be judgemental with out knowing the fact ?

[20.03.2015 23:47:47] Rudolf Faix: I have enough facts together for my comment. I only add the communications from the night and this one now

[20.03.2015 23:47:51] Christine Wisner: i say you mr. xxx didnot paid me , will that be the truth

[20.03.2015 23:48:21] Rudolf Faix: That is only a comment. The other facts are showing already enough

[20.03.2015 23:49:05] Christine Wisner: you are mr.all knowing

[20.03.2015 23:49:08] Christine Wisner: TY

[20.03.2015 23:49:40] Rudolf Faix: If you think so, then will it be like this.

[20.03.2015 23:49:46] Christine Wisner: even after showing you the proof , you are arguing with me !

[20.03.2015 23:51:19] Christine Wisner: OK ,i am a fraud for you fine ! please get the facts from :

[20.03.2015 23:51:24] Christine Wisner: wendy.reinhardt33 and chad.saddoris

[20.03.2015 23:51:33] Rudolf Faix: Sorry, but you did not show me anything or give me any explaination about the fact, which I have written. I don't mean the part of Willpower Infotech Limited. I mean that about the 2 profiles, the different education, the missing company, the missing phone book entry of a "company"

[20.03.2015 23:53:01] Rudolf Faix: The Western Wood Co., Wildwood Co., Westwood Co, West Wood Pvt. Ltd.

[20.03.2015 23:53:40] Rudolf Faix: This are the facts and not the information of Willpower Infotech Limited

[20.03.2015 23:55:30] Rudolf Faix: The phone numbers +63-2-371 1478 and +63-2-371 1479, which have not been ringing yesterday during the day. I have called with different phones.

[20.03.2015 23:56:16] Rudolf Faix: Even your friends cannot help you against this facts.

[00:00:50] Rudolf Faix: Both pictures at the profiles are from the same original. They are only mirrored and have another cut. That is a fact too

[00:13:12] Rudolf Faix: I give you until 12 noon time to send me a copy from your registration of the company. You have written that you are in the office from 10am until 6pm. I'll verify it and publish my next article afterwards.


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Christine Wisner tries to save what can still be saved

For the case you have not read the start of the scam, then you should start reading at: Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner to get the content of the full case.

Christine Wisner even expected, that everybody will be available at 2:35am Philippines time or 0:05am Indian time. Normal people, like me are already sleeping at this time. For this I have seen the conference in the morning after I waked up. Already this shows the egoism from Christine Wisner.

Like every scammer, she thinks that she need to write something and that is the only truth. Any document, which can prove her allegations are still missing or simple not available. As she lies already in her profiles, why should someone believe what she is writing now?

The facts that I see in this discussion is only the fake "Transfer Summary Xoom form". That is proven, because Willpower Infotech Limited submitted it and Christine Wisner ignored it completely. If she did not send it to Willpower Infotech, then she would reject immediately the existence of the document.

For the case that Wendy Fischer and Chad Saddoris are even existing (their messages got sent by Christine Wisner - you can prove it at the Skype screen shots at the end of this article), then it seems to be that they are partner in crime with Christine Wisner. It is really not possible that from 154 transmitted leads is not one valid. The three scammer Christine Wisner, Wendy Fischer and Chad Saddoris are even to lazy to document for each reject the reason.

I'm not involved in this case and for this I see the case different than Christine Wisner. For me is it logical that Christine Wisner is a SCAMMER. She could nothing prove during the full conference. My recommendation is to bring her in front of the law court.

As I still have the Austrian Timezone installed at my laptop the time is the Austrian one and not the Philippine time. You have to add 7 hours to the written time.

Christine Wisner

Skype conference with Christine Wisner (screenshots are attached to this article):

[20.03.2015 19:35:25] *** Christine Wisner hat Willpower Infotech Limited, Rudolf Faix hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:37:34 | Bearbeitet 19:37:48] Christine Wisner: please reply gentelmens

[20.03.2015 19:45:47] Christine Wisner: i am waiting for you

[20.03.2015 19:45:55] Christine Wisner: please reply

[20.03.2015 19:47:11] Willpower Infotech Limited: yes

[20.03.2015 19:47:13] Willpower Infotech Limited: miss

[20.03.2015 19:47:17] Willpower Infotech Limited: tell me

[20.03.2015 19:47:27] Christine Wisner: see the leds submitted from monday 9th march , a

[3/13/2015 1:51:31 AM] Wendy Fischer: it seems it is a waste of your time as well

[3/13/2015 1:51:56 AM] Wendy Fischer: you have submitted 154 leads this week

[3/13/2015 1:52:04 AM] Wendy Fischer: 113 Automated Rejections

[3/13/2015 1:52:10 AM] Wendy Fischer: 28 have been evaluated

[3/13/2015 1:52:12 AM] Wendy Fischer: 0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:52:29 AM] Christine Wisner: can you see ths weeks submittion

[3/13/2015 1:52:56 AM] Christine Wisner: till yesterday

[3/13/2015 1:54:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: those are this weeks leads

[3/13/2015 1:54:42 AM] Chad Saddoris: you have submitted 154 leads this week

113 Automated Rejections

28 have been evaluated

0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:54:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: so not good at all

[3/13/2015 1:55:03 AM] Christine Wisner: from 9th mrch

[3/13/2015 1:55:07 AM] Chad Saddoris: yep

[3/13/2015 1:55:28 AM] Wendy Fischer: from Monday, march 9th thru right now

[3/13/2015 1:55:43 AM] Wendy Fischer: so we need to pause you at end of business day

[20.03.2015 19:47:28] Willpower Infotech Limited: Mr mohith here

[20.03.2015 19:47:57] Christine Wisner: CHAD and Wendy is the buyer for your Quality leads

[20.03.2015 19:48:26] *** Christine Wisner hat chatwin.caberte hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:48:55] Christine Wisner: [12:12:58 AM] Chad Saddoris: we gave you the reports our client provides

[12:13:06 AM] Chad Saddoris: and your leads were the worst I've ever seen

[12:13:14 AM] Christine Wisner: i just want you to come and give the report in the group once

[12:13:39 AM] Chad Saddoris: what dates did your run

[12:13:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: I send you a report for the entire date range

[12:14:01 AM] Christine Wisner: thank you , chad

[12:14:08 AM] Chad Saddoris: what dates?

[12:14:15 AM] Chad Saddoris: and tell them their leads were horrible

[12:16:15 AM] Chad Saddoris: when did you start?

[12:16:31 AM] Christine Wisner: yes

[12:17:05 AM] Christine Wisner: i also said them , that due to them i lost your campaign , where you have paid me in the past also

[12:17:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: so what date do you want the report from?

[20.03.2015 19:49:00] *** Willpower Infotech Limited hat Dialhub Info Solutions hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:49:58] Christine Wisner: WILLPOWER , your leads are all horrible quality , and due your quality ,i lost my campaign , that was paying me all the time

[20.03.2015 19:50:31] Christine Wisner: please say your part ??

[20.03.2015 19:52:09] Christine Wisner: say ?

[20.03.2015 19:52:33] Christine Wisner: you dont belive me

[20.03.2015 19:53:03] Christine Wisner: send all your leads submitted in a exel file , here in this group

[20.03.2015 19:53:23] Christine Wisner: and the buyer will directly report you here in this group

[20.03.2015 19:55:38] Willpower Infotech Limited: if my quality were not good, u shud have stopped me then and there only

[20.03.2015 19:56:20] Willpower Infotech Limited:

no feedback from u. u need to work along with us for the quality

[20.03.2015 19:56:36] Willpower Infotech Limited: many time i tred to contact u

[20.03.2015 19:56:47] Willpower Infotech Limited: but no reply from u

[20.03.2015 19:57:32] Christine Wisner: the day i got the report , the next day i asked your partner dailhub to stop dailing from that day and asked him to inform you

[20.03.2015 19:57:35] Willpower Infotech Limited: what u think do our emplyess are working as free of cost

[20.03.2015 19:57:39] Christine Wisner: and he did informed you

[20.03.2015 19:58:16] Christine Wisner: you think your old leads will be billed by MSM ?

[20.03.2015 19:58:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: hello

[20.03.2015 19:58:34] Christine Wisner: yes

[20.03.2015 19:58:42] Willpower Infotech Limited: we buy new DATAS

[20.03.2015 19:59:01] Christine Wisner: either your vendor is fraud

[20.03.2015 19:59:08] Willpower Infotech Limited: its cost of 30k

[20.03.2015 19:59:19] Christine Wisner: or you are giving me old data

[20.03.2015 19:59:33] Christine Wisner: and its not only according to me

Willpower Infotech Limited
Xoom India

[20.03.2015 19:59:50] Christine Wisner: MSM also is reporting that

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Dhiraj Kumar


[20.03.2015 20:00:28] Willpower Infotech Limited: see he that person always say with everyone

[20.03.2015 20:00:34] Willpower Infotech Limited: buy datas

[20.03.2015 20:00:48] Willpower Infotech Limited: from me ill give u frish leads

[20.03.2015 20:00:57] Willpower Infotech Limited: Bla ba bla

[20.03.2015 20:01:37] Willpower Infotech Limited: dialhub has informed us to stop the dialing and later u also informed us to stop and was asked to speak to u on march 9

[20.03.2015 20:02:39] Christine Wisner: listen , i dont have any grudge against you! you got me mad as you re saing this without knowing. MSM , the buyer is not going to pay for the laeds. but the same time he is clearing payout for other centers !

[20.03.2015 20:02:59] Christine Wisner: so i cant pont finger at them

[20.03.2015 20:03:26] Christine Wisner: [3/13/2015 1:54:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: those are this weeks leads

[3/13/2015 1:54:42 AM] Chad Saddoris: you have submitted 154 leads this week

113 Automated Rejections

28 have been evaluated

0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:54:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: so not good at all

[3/13/2015 1:55:03 AM] Christine Wisner: from 9th mrch

[3/13/2015 1:55:07 AM] Chad Saddoris: yep

[3/13/2015 1:55:28 AM] Wendy Fischer: from Monday, march 9th thru right now

[3/13/2015 1:55:43 AM] Wendy Fischer: so we need to pause you at end of business day

now say how will i pay them ?

[20.03.2015 20:05:33] Willpower Infotech Limited:

but u have not answered me when i tried to reach u from that day

Dialhub Info Solutions: what else could be done

[20.03.2015 20:06:07] Christine Wisner: i was not online for 2-3 days

[20.03.2015 20:06:13] Willpower Infotech Limited: oh

[20.03.2015 20:06:15] Willpower Infotech Limited: cool

[20.03.2015 20:06:18] Willpower Infotech Limited: miss

[20.03.2015 20:06:38] Willpower Infotech Limited: ur replying to other center

[20.03.2015 20:06:50] Willpower Infotech Limited: but u dnt have time to reply us

[20.03.2015 20:07:05] Christine Wisner: to some centers who are submitting leads or just joined

[20.03.2015 20:07:12] Willpower Infotech Limited: shall i give chat histry???

[20.03.2015 20:07:34] Willpower Infotech Limited: do u think i dnt have any other center contact

[20.03.2015 20:08:36] Christine Wisner: i am adding you to chad and wendy

[20.03.2015 20:08:56] Christine Wisner: give your 3 weeks report in the group

[20.03.2015 20:09:22] Christine Wisner: and ask them directly

[20.03.2015 20:12:27] Willpower Infotech Limited: finally what is the end for this issue, we have dialed for 3 weeks and let us know what is billable and when will i get the payouts?? that's it

[20.03.2015 20:14:31] Christine Wisner: your quality is a direct issue for the buyers

[20.03.2015 20:14:42] Christine Wisner: but not for other centers

[20.03.2015 20:14:57] Christine Wisner: the buyer is ready to release the billable for others

[20.03.2015 20:15:27] Willpower Infotech Limited: u have to pay many center

[20.03.2015 20:15:37] Willpower Infotech Limited: i knw very well

[20.03.2015 20:15:52] Willpower Infotech Limited: am nt talking abt myself only

[20.03.2015 20:16:04] Willpower Infotech Limited: am fighting for others also

[20.03.2015 20:16:27] Christine Wisner: i have paid centers from you city , today itself

[20.03.2015 20:16:33] Willpower Infotech Limited: i request the other people in the group participate in the discussion

[20.03.2015 20:16:40] Christine Wisner: sure

[20.03.2015 20:18:27] Willpower Infotech Limited:

if quality is the issue, u shud have stopped me. u never gave me any feedback for the transfers made

then y u didnt pay my partner center Dialhub, he is also begging behind you

he is also in my city

[20.03.2015 20:19:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: we sent daily report and we never got any feedback, now tell me whose mistake it is???

answer me for this???

[20.03.2015 20:19:51] Christine Wisner: the moment , i got the report , i paused you the next day

[20.03.2015 20:21:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: can u share the mail in which u have sent the report

[20.03.2015 20:22:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: i got only one report for the last week of february

and what hap to 1st & 2nd week of march

[20.03.2015 20:22:52] Willpower Infotech Limited:

and moreover u have not officially informed me to stop dialing for EDU

[20.03.2015 20:24:37] Christine Wisner: i am shareing the report that i got directly from the buyers end Chad and wendy !

[20.03.2015 22:48:01] Christine Wisner: DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANY THING RUDOLF FAIX ??

[20.03.2015 23:29:11] Dialhub Info Solutions: hello

[20.03.2015 23:30:04] Dialhub Info Solutions: ms. christine, first of u try to respond to the centers, if u don't do it, then name goes in tasks

[20.03.2015 23:37:01] Dialhub Info Solutions: mrs. christine - pls respond to me when i ask u something

Update: The case continues - Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong


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Update: The case continues - Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong


Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner

Yesterday Willpower Infotech Limited contacted me over Skype and he told me that he got scammed from Christine Wisner. He is missing a payment of $15 000 and he cannot contact her. I have tried to contact her by Skype, her phone number +63-2-371 1478 and her fax number +63-2-371 1479. Both numbers are not in service and no reaction on her Skype.

A search at LinkedIn resulted in two profiles for Christine Wisner

Christine Wisner
Managing Director at West Wood Co.
NCR - National Capital Region, Philippines
Marketing and Advertising

Cristine Wisner
Marketing Head at Wildwood Co.
NCR - National Capital Region, Philippines

Aktuell: Westwood Co.

De La Salle Santiago Zobel School
Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA), Business Administration and Management, General
2005 – 2007

ABE International College of Business and Accountancy - Manila Branch
Master of Business Administration (M.B.A.), International Marketing
2006 – 2009

University of Waterloo - St. Paul's United College
Bachelor's degree, Business, Management, Marketing, and Related Support Services
2004 – 2006

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Both profiles get found in the attached pdf documents.

A search in the public phone directory about the company West Wood Pvt. Ltd. ended without any result. Even a reverse lookup has not given any result. A company, which is hidden, will not be able to make any business.

A Google search brought only a result of the Indian company West Wood Pvt Ltd, 15 Annamalai Nagar ,Thillai Nagar, Tiruchirappalli, Tamilnadu ( East ) - 620018, which is trading with Plywood, Veneers & Laminates business and has nothing to do with a marketing company.

Each company, which is trading with something and each marketing company, have at least a website and a registered domain. Companies, which are having a land line are normally listed in the public phone directory.

I recommend to everbody to make a background check about your business partner before starting making business. Carry all the facts together and decide about making business on the base of that information what you could get proved. Don't believe only to the words of a salesperson.

Keep copies of all emails, contracts, chats etc. In such a case you will be able to warn others. If you are getting scammed then take the relevant copies and warn others by listing the scammer in all the call center groups and forums. Inform about the scam as much people as possible.

Christine Wisner _ LinkedIn.pdf (842.1KB)

Christine Wisner _ LinkedIn 2.pdf (223.8KB)

Update: The story continues - Christine Wisner tries to save what can still be saved