Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

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Do you like to know why the offshore call center industry is going down?

law hammerIf we take a look at the European Data Protection Directive from 1995, followed by the Data Protection Act 1998 and the General Data Protection Regulation from 2012 then you’ll find out that personal data are not allowed to get stored as absolutely necessary. The company, which stores personal data, is full responsible for the usage a misusage of the data. A similar law is in the United States available too. There are even the fines for a misusage of personal data higher. 

In any case is the company, which has stored the data, in front of the law court responsible for the correct usage of the stored data and this one will get prosecuted first. If the company cannot guarantee that their data are protected then they cannot give it offshore for processing them in any way.

As we see in the following example taken from Facebook how this data are getting traded, nobody will take the risk and outsource some of his data processing where personal data are involved. This is an actual offer from Facebook. I have copied the content and marked the important sentence red. A screenshot gets found at the end of this article:

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The source of a data set, which is offered like above, can easily found by comparing the credit card data. You need only to compare the data with the data of the credit card companies. In such a case you’ll find out at which shop or company all this credit cards got used in common.

So for what reason a company shall outsource offshore if this industry is not trustful? They have to pay the fine for something what they are not feeling themselves guilty. The fine is higher than processing the data inside their own company.

Such black sheep in the offshore outsourcing industry have destroyed the whole industry. Nobody has done something against them, because everybody has been looking only at his earning. Now you get presented the bill for your greed and laziness.

Only offshore partner, which can prove that they are trustful, will have a chance to survive - all others will perish.

DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT SOMEONE WILL PAY YOU FOR BRINGING HIM INTO TROUBLES?

 

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Scammer Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. - gtobpo.com - J K Rana

Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd.The EMail from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. with a link to www.gtobpo.com brought Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd.into my focus for a review about their activities. A look at their homepage has shown me the same ISO 9001:2008 certification and they are the providing the same offers, which are breaking the ISO 9001 rules. The offers are like from each other scammer. Their presentation is the same like we know it from the other scammer already.

An ISO certification says nothing about the quality of their products and services. An ISO certification is only documenting that a company is documenting their internal process flow that each case can get easily traced.

We know from our previous found scammer that they are lazy and we know is it very hard that something get's forgotten, which is stored once at a website. For this i go in one of the web archives and trace back from for get the date at which an offer has appeared first in the Internet.

The site http://web.archive.org/ has taken a snapshot of http://www.gtobpo.com 42 times between November 6, 2011 and March 25, 2015. I think that it will show us the date when the campaigns got offered first and when the last changes happened.

This are the results of web.archive.org for the offers on the site. Some of this offers are getting offered from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. as a new campaign (all data in the list got copied and pasted - not typed):

Business Transcription
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Business-Transcription
Saved 4 times between August 6, 2013 and October 6, 2013.

Health Insurance 5 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-5-PC
Saved 1 time on May 5, 2014

Health Insurance 10 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-10-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

Health Insurance 20 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-20-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

Health Insurance 30 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-30-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

DATA MANAGEMENT PROCESS RBC BANK
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/RBC-BANK
Saved 7 times between August 4, 2013 and February 21, 2014.

CAF Form Filling Project Reliance
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Reliance-CAF-Form-Filling-Project
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 19, 2014.

From Filing Projects State Bank OF India
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/State-Bank-OF-India
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 10, 2014.

Form Filing Projects Syndicate Bank
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Syndicate-Bank
Saved 7 times between August 4, 2013 and May 30, 2014.

Form Filling Project Union Bank
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Union-Bank
Saved 6 times between August 6, 2013 and May 7, 2014.

USA Tax Number Form Filling
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/USA-Tax-Number-Form-Filling
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 10, 2014.

We see that the youngest campaign is the Health Insurance campaign. This campaign is nearly one year old. With this campaign seems to be something wrong if this campaign could not find a center within one year to get sold. If I compare this campaign with the Kathy Sisk Enterprises campaigns, then I can say that their campaigns are now around 10 days listed at my blog and their NDA got 111 times downloaded. For this I have only one explanation for the campaign from Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. and Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. that they are only SCAM.

Health insurance data are high sensible data In the most countries is it forbidden by law to give external people access to such data.

Another interesting fact are the addresses of Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. and Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.:

Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
1-B, Hind Nager L.D.A Colony, Kanpur Road Lucknow 1-B Nanak Arcade 85-A Hind Nagar L.D.A Colony, Opposite Shivalik School, Lucknow-226012 U.P. (INDIA)

For me are both addresses the same one. 

We see in the Facebook timeline of Global Technologiy and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. that the screen shot from the NEW captcha process, jpeg to doc pdf and health insurance process offered by Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. got already shared on November 22, 2013!!!

As scammer are very lazy he did even not remove the negative reviews from his Facebook profile.

At Google+ we find a posting Ashwani Kumar from July 22, 2012:

Öffentlich geteilt  -  22.07.2012
 
 
 a project provider J K Rana who is main person for dealings...he asked me to come and meet him to clear my problems on his fake identity he said that "he has working for last 10 years so there is no doubt on me ,you can come at my office ..." my friend went  and he saw that there was no office and his landlord said that j k rana has arrested for doing fraud around crores and the main accused is ran away. in that case i m lucky where mr. rana was asking money for booking the slots on that time i refused. EVEN YOU CAN CHECK HIS WEB SITE -----WWW.GTOBPO.COM--- still is working but now is only running there is no one for maintenance...Now WHAT TO DO...? NOW i m feel like a pendulum ....i need help any one can help me out  

Additional facts why the offers from Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. are not more than only SCAM:

  • With their offered processes and the requested business fee they are certifying that they have no contract with their client and for this they are not able to give you any guarantees that you’ll get the project and that you’ll get paid.

  • Scammers want to make it harder for the police by using a graphics or a false profile pictures. They do not want to provide a manhunt image by themselves.

  • Scammer are using privacy protection services for hiding the data in their domain registration

  • Each work, where you have to pay to get it is nothing more than SCAM
    If a broker likes to take money from both sites is an absolutely no go! In the case of a dispute he is working for this party, which is paying the higher sum. That disqualifies any business person from being trustful.

  • In Europe and USA the documents are getting scanned and stored as binary documents in a database. Each scan is getting tags that it can easily found again. These tags have the same function like the tag cloud known from the blogs. The only difference is that the document itself gets linked to the customer, supplier, commercial case records which are involved to retrieve the original document. To this system you’ll not get an access because of the security reasons and law for data protection in the “rich” countries.

Additional we find at http://www.consumercomplaints.co/gto-bpo-fake-employees/ 2 complaints about their business:

September 27, 2014:
they say they have the project but in actual they don't have it. Ghanshyam, Santosh, Varun all these people are unfaithful,
they do not know what they need to do, don't know their job and irresponsible
March 6, 2015:
GTO BPO/JOSOFT is a fake company. they say that they have the project. after taking the money they don't provide. totally fake guys. I got cheated with 4 Lacs

My opinion: If you take all this facts and the complaints together, then the result will be that Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. is nothing else then a scammer and the ISO certification is a fake.

Domain registration data of gtobpo.com:

Domain Name: GTOBPO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1673909859_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
Updated Date: 2015-01-10T12:38:00Z
Creation Date: 2011-08-26T09:59:55Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-26T09:59:55Z
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited ([link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City: Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province: Queensland
Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
Registrant Country: AU
Registrant Phone: +45.36946676
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Admin
Admin Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Admin Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Admin City: Nobby Beach
Admin State/Province: Queensland
Admin Postal Code: QLD 4218
Admin Country: AU
Admin Phone: +45.36946676
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Admin
Tech Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Tech Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Tech City: Nobby Beach
Tech State/Province: Queensland
Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218
Tech Country: AU
Tech Phone: +45.36946676
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: 1009.globedns.com
Name Server: 1010.globedns.com
DNSSEC:Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
[link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-02-02T13:32:44+0000Z

Facebook GTOBPO Reviews.pdf (927.92 kb)

Facebook GTOBPO.pdf (11.58 mb)

GTOBPO_ Profile _ LinkedIn.pdf (1.11 mb)

Google plus Ashwani Kumar.pdf (173.23 kb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to the offers found at gtobpo.com removed as they are returning already error 404 - not found.

 

Presumptive scammer Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd - josoftech.com

Josoft Technologies Pvt. LtdJosoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd is bragging with an ISO 9001:2008 certification and proving in their offers that they are breaking the ISO 9001 rules and acting like each other scammer too.

An ISO certification says nothing about the quality of their products and services. An ISO certification is only documenting that a company is documenting their internal process flow that each case can get easily traced.

What is not ISO conform from their site:

  • Try to sell using spam emails
    I have gotten yesterday and E-Mail with the campaign offers from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
    I have never subscribed to receive emails from them. For this the E-Mail is nothing else then SPAM.

  • If a customer has to pay before he gets a demonstration
    Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. has very well documented in their offer found at the attached pdf document jpeg to doc pdf.pdf that the call center has to pay the business fee “2. The legal agreement process begins immediately after your fee amount has been deposited, and the agreement is couriered out to you for your signature.” before the center knows what it get “3. The demonstration and training package are sent to you within 24 hours after your fee amount has been deposited.
    This is braking all international business rules, because a demonstration has to be FREE OF CHARGE. They like to sell something and for this they cannot make money with a demonstration, Only very stupid people will accept such a rule.

  • A certificate of satisfaction has to be signed before you are starting the work
    In such a case a certificate of satisfaction about the training can only get signed if the work and the quality of the provided images does not differ to this which are provided during the training. A certificate of satisfaction for the project can only get issued after the contract got fulfilled from both parties.
    For the case that they are really ISO certified, the certification has even not the value of the paper on which it got printed!!!

 

Why are the offers from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. not more than only SCAM:

 

  • With their offered processes and the requested business fee they are certifying that they have no contract with their client and for this they are not able to give you any guarantees that you’ll get the project and that you’ll get paid.

  • Scammers want to make it harder for the police by using a graphics or a false profile pictures. They do not want to provide a manhunt image by themselves.

  • Scammer are using privacy protection services for hiding the data in their domain registration

  • Each work, where you have to pay to get it is nothing more than SCAM
    The way how they are breaking the ISO certification standards and international business rules shows that they are not trustful. Even if a broker likes to take money from both sites is an absolutely no go! In the case of a dispute he is working for this party, which is paying the higher sum. That disqualifies any business person from being trustful.

  • That you need to pay for the work before you even know how it confirms the SCAM too.

  • That you need to give a certificate of satisfaction before you know that the work does not differ from the training is the next SCAM.

  • Take a look at the article about Scamwarning: Book Typing, Proof Reading, All types of Form Filling, HTML Tagging. There you’ll find the description why you’ll not get paid according their accuracy protocol. They have described it in their offer jpeg to doc pdf.pdf by themselves. It is a common way to get a high accuracy by giving the same work to many people and check the results. The problem is only that this way is very expensive for the client and the client will not pay the sum for the work. The client is interested in saving money by going offshore.

  • At their blog they are promising “Our processes are designed to achieve 100% accuracy, and to deliver every project on time and within the budget parameters of the project.” You know now the way how they are reaching 100% accuracy and the way how they are keeping their budget. With OCR reading is only a accuracy of 98% possible.

  • In Europe and USA the documents are getting scanned and stored as binary documents in a database. Each scan is getting tags that it can easily found again. These tags have the same function like the tag cloud known from the blogs. The only difference is that the document itself gets linked to the customer, supplier, commercial case records which are involved to retrieve the original document. To this system you’ll not get an access because of the security reasons and law for data protection in the “rich” countries.

  • By taking a look at the project 5 PC Health Insurance project.pdf and 10 PC Health Insurance project.pdf is the same law situation. The companies in Europe and USA are even not allowed by law to provide you with such a kind data. The video of the Form Filling Offline Data Entry Typing Project shows that the image is written in an OCR character set. There are OCR readers for less than $1000 and software for less than $500 on the market available, which are able to convert such images into text with a accuracy of 98% and faster than you can type. Why client shall pay you for manual work in such a case?

  • Online Image Captcha.pdf
    Such captchas as they have provided by the screenshot are normally generated with a font set and converted into a graphic before saving them. It does not make any sense to type in the captcha, where the result is already known by generating them.

 

Additional we find at http://www.consumercomplaints.co/gto-bpo-fake-employees/ 2 complaints about their business:

September 27, 2014:
they say they have the project but in actual they don't have it. Ghanshyam, Santosh, Varun all these people are unfaithful,
they do not know what they need to do, don't know their job and irresponsible
March 6, 2015:
GTO BPO/JOSOFT is a fake company. they say that they have the project. after taking the money they don't provide. totally fake guys. I got cheated with 4 Lacs

Their address written on their website:
1-B Nanak Arcade 85-A Hind Nagar L.D.A Colony, Opposite Shivalik School, Lucknow-226012 U.P. (INDIA)
Phone: +91 90-26209005

My opinion: If you take all this facts and the complaints together, then the result will be that Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. is nothing else then a scammer and the ISO certification is a fake.

Spam E-mail from josoftech.com:

Von: farzan haider <sales@josoftech.com>
an: rudolffaix@gmail.com
Datum: 22. April 2015 um 13:25
Betreff: !! BPO BUSINESS !! PROJECT DETAILS !! (Josoftech)
: Diese Nachricht ist vor allem aufgrund der an der Konversation beteiligten Personen wichtig.
Welcome to Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. 

Dear Customer,

We thank you for choosing Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

We take pleasure in introducing ourselves as Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. An ISO Certified Company had it beginnings in 2008 when Global Technology & Outsourcing was formed. The company has grown in size and capability, and in late 2013 the company name was changed to Josoft Technologies Pvt Ltd. We are offering Multiple Data Entry Projects in different sectors like, Banking, Telecom, Insurance, Government undertakings, and are also dealing in Inbound Call centers and Outbound Call centers, B2BB2CLead Generations & TelemarketingMedical & Business transactions. Term and conditions apply.

We request you to kindly find the enclosed attachments to get more insight about our start up projects in Pdf file format and click the links appended below to watch the videos for a better operational understanding with regards to these three projects. 

 

 1., Image to MS word Projects: – Offline data typing projects requiring a minimum of (1 PC). 

         (URL for JPEG to doc video)         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzR7ObxAHCE

 

2., Online Data Entry: - Online data entry work in online portal requiring a minimum of (3 PCs).

        (URL for online Captcha Video)      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Q4aTAgAI0      


3., Health Insurance Projects: - Form-filing projects in provided software requiring a minimum of (5           PCs).   

      (URL for Health insurance Projects)       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB588TkOnYw

 

It shall be our endeavor as always, to provide you a truly satisfying service.

And many more projects available you can visit: www.gtobpo.com  &  www.josoftech.com

Should you face any difficulty in understanding the requirements, please do not hesitate to contact our team, who are always eagerly looking forward to assist / guide you. If you have any suggestions on how we could improve our services further, please write to us at info@josoftech.com pr call our 24-hour IVR +91-9026209005   Customer contact center at  and we will be delighted to hear from you

Warm regards

Ankita singh
sales executive
(Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.)

 

Skype ID :-josoft.technologies9 Phones:- +91-7897086666 Toll free:-  +91-9026209005  Off:  +91 0522 4069893    Email:  info@josoftech.com     Web: http://www.josoftech.com

Domain registration data of josoftech.com:

Domain Name: JOSOFTECH.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1767014904_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
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Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City: Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province: Queensland
Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
Registrant Country: AU
Registrant Phone: +45.36946676
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Admin City: Nobby Beach
Admin State/Province: Queensland
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Tech City: Nobby Beach
Tech State/Province: Queensland
Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218
Tech Country: AU
Tech Phone: +45.36946676
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
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Name Server: 1013.globedns.com
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For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

 

10 PC Health Insurance Project.pdf (73.48 kb)

5 PC Health Insurance project.pdf (75.13 kb)

jpeg to doc pdf.pdf (117.39 kb)

Online image Captcha.pdf (1.10 mb)

Josoft Technologies blogspot in.pdf (1.90 mb)

Facebook Josoft Technologies.pdf (5.01 mb)

GTO BPO - fake employees _ Consumer Complaints.pdf (631.75 kb)

LinkedIn Josoft Technologies Pvt.pdf (1.66 mb)

 

Austrian trial: Facebook reproaches Schrems “pseudo-class action”

If the class action lawsuit by 25,000 Facebook users, who are represented by Max Schrems, approved in Vienna in court? That has been the question on Thursday at the beginning of the trial.

Max SchremsOn Thursday, the largest European Data Protection class action was heard on Regional Court for Civil Matters in Vienna in Hall 8. 25,000 Facebook users support the lawsuit, including 3700 Austrians.

At the start of the trial, it was mainly about the competence of the action in Vienna. Facebook denied that the Regional Court in Vienna has the right site to sue the US company. "Facebook has the opinion that they are nowhere actionable. Not in Eire, not in Vienna" explained the lawyer of Max Schrems in his plea that was directed especially to the many media representatives present in the room.

The hype was extreme. Many international journalists were represented. Schrems said: "The media coverage is bizarre. But if less through my activism, but rather caused by the defendant."

Not a "US-style class action"

The Viennese law firm acting for Facebook, called the class action as a "pseudo-class action". "The civil procedure law has no US-style class action, the applicant can go to California, where such methods are permitted." Said the Facebook lawyer Nicholas Pitkowitz in the courtroom from.

"Facebook does not want to be sued. Users do not need to travel to a country where they are not native. The idea of European legislation provides that every consumer can make at his residence claim the right to sue" replied the lawyer from Schrems, Wolfram Proksch.

Reproach: Schrems wants to earn money

The attorneys at Facebook imputed Max Schrems, who represents the Class Members that he is by himself not a consumer. "There is no privacy forum where Schrems is not at the podium," the argument. Reproach: he would make money.

This denies the attorney of Schrems in front of the court. Schrems is living from rental income and a minor job in a company. As evidence he presented the bank statements, as well as the Facebook profile entries that Schrems is making as a consumer. Schrems was still regularly active on Facebook.

Schrems even add at the hearing that he usually do not earn money by privacy panels. "I do not need much in life" said the doctoral student who continues his law degree at the University of Vienna. The question of whether he had ever been thinking to ask for a trade license was laughing denied by Schrems .

Privacy activists

Discussed got also that Schrems is called a "Privacy activists". His answer: "It is politically important to me, to do something for the privacy."

The 500 euros, which will be sought in the context of class action, should also be paid to other consumers. It is therefore not a "debt collection agency," as it Facebook has also accused in the process. The lawyers of Facebook also stiffen on quotes from media reports, on which they intend to nail Schrems.

"Student group"

In front of the court Schrems cleaned up with the myth of the “Vienese student group”. There had been about five friends who have also made a request for information to Facebook. A student group, had never existed. The association "europe-vs-facebook.org" exists. The attorneys at Facebook Schrems also tried to bring him out of concept with leading questions about his "employees".

But according to the lawyers of Facebook is it not possible to assign the rights of consumers to another consumer. The lawyer of Schrems brought the following example: "Just imagine that you have a friend in an EU country and get him a gift from Amazon. However, the product is insufficient. In this case the consumer can also cede claims."

No evidence of capacity

The attorneys at Facebook argued, however, also before the court so that Schrems did not adduce any evidence that proves the "capacity" of the Class represented by him. As these users have agreed to the terms and conditions, they were very well competent.

This Facebook subordinate to its users again "mass insanity" as Schrems already said his opinion on the written statement from Facebook. "For Facebook are their users only a data resource" can get read on Twitter.

Schrems stated at the hearing that he has requested passport or identity cards from all 25,000 class members, which have given a declaration of assignment, to verify the authenticity of their accounts. "These data are on an offline laptop with special hardened Linux operating system," Schrems said. The assignments have been cross-checked.

Also theme has been that Schrems had already introduced during 2011 complaints to the Irish data protection authority and therefore from the perspective of Facebook  Schrems cannot sue in Austria. The attorneys at Facebook saw this as a problem. Schrems claimed to have withdrawn 22 of the 23 complaints already in July 2014.

The survey by the lawyers of Facebook was like an interrogation. Schrems was practically forced to disclose private details of his "friendships". Schrems said, after the hearing: "They have dug every crumb, there is." The lawyers of Facebook already informed before trial to not answer and questions after the first day of the trial.

Schrems was compared to the numerous journalists less taciturn: "I see my chances are good, otherwise I would not do the work myself." He likes to change anything in general and to enforcing all our fundamental rights.  “Will be our data in the future secure? That is the reason for the trial. Not to responsibilities", he referred to the fact that it did not go in the negotiation of content to privacy. "This is the strategy of Facebook, not to talk about data protection." The allegations of Facebook that he wanted to make money have been "totally baseless". "I deserve therefore not one cent."

The Regional Court of Vienna has given both sides three weeks to translate further documents. A decision on the admissibility of the action in Vienna will be given written after six weeks. This decision is likely to be opposed by other instances. Schrems even expects a "long process". "It takes just a long breath."

 

Analyzing the sage.co.uk SCAM – avoid to get scammed this way

Yesterday I got an email with the content that sage.co.uk or staff from them is scamming center owners. As Sage is a big software company from UK I did not believe it. Why should a big company be in need to take a few thousands or Pounds from center owners?

The content of the email has been:

I got Cheated by person called Sameer Ahuja , Ranveer swamy and Leisa Dorcherty , In the name of Business they took $ 490  Fraudulently and Now they are not receiving call and not replying mail also I filed a complaint in Near by Police station , 
sameer Ahuja  Skype id : sameer.sage-inc  , Mobile Number (Office ) - 00447509754621 , (personnel) - 00447509756623

Ranveer Swamy skype id : ranveer.sage-inc
Leisa Dorcherty skype id : leisa.sage-inc
Account number which they have given
Bank Name : State Bank of India
Name: Ranveer Swami
Account no.- 20176913465
IFSC code: SBIN0001161
Branch- IIT Kanpur

Let us verify the data, which seem to be true of this scam.

If someone calls you and he is transmitting his caller id, then it is possible to call him back. If the same person picks up the call than you have at least a phone number, which can get verified. In our case it is a little bit difficult, because the UK data protection act don’t let you make a reverse phone lookup.

Under the UK's data protection act, reverse phone number lookups are against the law. There are however a couple of options, depending on your situation.

If you are receiving nuisance calls, then you should contact your phone provider and lodge a complaint. Should the problem persist, then contacting the police is an option.

Only the area can get located where the call comes from. In our case is it a mobile phone from the area of Jersey.

By having the phone number and the location we find the first reason why the scam is not from Sage. Jersey is in an Island in front of the coast of France. It belongs to the UK territory. Sage is located in Newcastle upon Tyne. If we use Google maps and let us calculate a route, than we see that the shortest route is 781 km and it takes around 11 hours to drive the route without respecting the possible traffic and resulting traffic jam. Nobody will drive to his workplace this distance. On the other side nobody will use a mobile phone from an area, which is around 800km away from his home or workplace and where he needs to use even a ferry going to the island.

The office and the private phone numbers are mobile phone numbers.  A big company like Sage has a land line phone number for their office. They are not using mobile phones for their office.  Manager from a company with the size of Sage will not give you their private phone number. Leisa Docherty is a manager from Sage.

Additional to the reason that you need not pay in Europe for getting some work you can easily verify such offers, which are coming from such companies. Sage has published some phone numbers at their website the offer can get easily verified if you are calling one of their phone numbers. If you have really a contact with one of the manager, then you will be able to pass the gatekeeper.

The next information which seems to be true is the bank account number, because the scammer likes to get the money. The name can be already a fake. It is the age of electronic transactions. For this the name will not get verified during a transaction from the bank as long as the account number is correct.

A company like Sage will every time use their real bank account and not a private account from someone in India. The reason for this is the strict tax law in Europe. Each company need to have a correct financial bookkeeping, which gets verified from time to time from tax officers of the government.

The only possible way to catch the scammer is over their phone number and their bank account.  In our case it the scammer located in India, because the bank account is there. The phone number gets simple forwarded by Voice over IP to any place in the world. Don’t let yourself get fooled bank accounts are normally in the same area where the company is registered. With the usage of electronic banking you have access to your bank account all over the world. For this there is no reason to have a bank account abroad if you have not an affiliate in the country abroad.

All other information cannot get verified. The LinkedIn accounts could got hacked and everybody can chose his Skype ID how he likes to name it. There is no verification for company names by creating an account. Each free combination can get chosen.

Companies are using for their contracts their own registered domain names for sending and receiving emails. Only people, which have something to hide, are hiding themselves by using freemail accounts. Companies, which are using official such freemail accounts have listed them on their homepage too.

The only criticism that can be made sage.co.uk is that they do not respond to emails. Apparently they do not care that criminals are using the name of SAGE. A company that not even not care about the crime, where her name is used, will not take care of the interests of their clients. This is the sign of today's society. Everyone cares only about their personal profits and the profit of their shareholders.

The scammer are speculating with the greed of the people. So don't see the proposed winning - take a look if you are not pay for get nothing!!! A good name in the offer does not guarantee something. Use your brain and make in each case a background check!!!