Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

Update November 18, 2015: The following shows how scammer are thinking how they can build up a business and how they are thinking how they can continue if they are getting catched to be scammer.

I have written the article one day after I have warned the scammer Phani Indra - Malladi Phanindra immediately as he had published the scam campaign in Facebook. In the hope that nothing will happen to him, he continued posting copying one campaigns after another from other sources where he even didn't know the source. It did even not make any difference for him if the campaign is genuine or not. He even does not have any knowledge how to identify a scam campaigns and he has ignored my warnings. Only important for him has been to make money. The way to get money and if the payer gets something for his money has not been important for him.

As the most of the campaigns are only available against an advanced fee are the campaigns nothing else than scam. A real client is searching for a broker or consultant which is near of his place and not abroad. The clients likes to have the possibility to make a complaint immediately and directly as soon as something goes wrong. If a client is searching abroad then he is searching directly for a center and not for a middle man. In this case he likes to avoid the kids game "Chinese message" and save the fee for the broker. For this reasons are 99.9% campaign offers with source from low wage countries nothing else than scam.

On this article he has shown an reaction and started to delete the campaign offers from his site after he even used a friend, which tried to explain me in the Facebook group "the campaign is from a friend":

My opinion is that people which have such a kind of friends don't need some enemies - such people are already punished with these kinds of friends!

Afterwards he started to delete the campaign from his site savebpo.com. In the social networks are the offers still available - only the link to his site is not working. Here a screenshot from the scam offer in Facebook from today morning:

As I told him, that he does not have any contract or permission with Deep Blue Marketing and for this he needs to remove the campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing too, he replied: "Are you talking about the UK Boiler Survey campaign with hot key transfer. Project ?". This answer shows that he even does not know the source of the campaigns and he had never any contact with any client or another broker. He has only copied campaigns from suspicious sources in the hope of getting rich from the up-front fees.

After he has deleted some campaigns - only from his site, he sent me the following message at Facebook:

I have just moved all energy campaigns to trash
All done now
I request you to remove my name from your blog
If you find any other scam or fraud projects in my site
Please contact the author

Sorry, but business is not a kindergarten game. For doing business you need to build up a reputation. Only to change the author of the site and using different names for the fraud does not bring a good reputation and does not release the owner of the site from beeing liable for the content. With other words is it nothing else than a nice try for continuing scamming centers by saying it is only a market place. Even a bad reputation is a reputation.

The whole story shows only how the scammers are trying to play man-in-the middle. For the case that the offered campaign is a real campaign how they like to make money with copy & paste. If the campaign is a scam than they get at least the up-front fee. In any case is it scam, because they even don't know who is the provider of the campaign and from where they have copied the campaign.

Original article November 17, 2015: Yesterday I found some unbelievable campaign offers in the social networks. The offers got posted from Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra the owner of the domain savebpo.com. A warning about the scam offers got ignored from him, because today morning the offers still exists in the social networks and on his site savebpo.com. It seems that he thinks that he can get rich by asking an advanced fee from centers. In one worse case he even thinks that he can get 7 Lacs (US$ 10,574) for a campaign where data from the client need to be accessible to the salesperson. The client will get fined from the US FTC (Federal Trade Commission) with US$ 16,000 per record. AT&T had paid in the past for such a failure, where data got stolen during an outsourcing process and the fines have been even cheaper, US$ 25,000,000. This ones, which don't believe it can take a look at the FTC site or at my report about this case.

Not one client will take the risk to get fined. A client likes to save money by an offshore outsourcing process and not pay more than his top workers get paid for doing the job. As in the traditional outsourcing countries (Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.) the consumer and customer data are protected by the data protection law and the fines for breaking the law are very high, not one client will outsource any campaign where the center needs to have access to their database. It does not matter if the data are getting misused by the center or stolen from by a someone else during a data breach. The business owner is liable in any case because he has collected the data.

Let us take a look at the offered scam campaign first

US International Inbound: Insurance Sector

Project description:

US Customer Care Process is to handle Inbound Calls of the customers who wanted to Inquire / Renew / claim / Transfer Insurance / Address or Other Modification.

• +/- Calls could be in Health Insurance in regards to : HMO, PPO, EPO and Miscellaneous Insurance of (Visitor Insurance, Green Card holders Insurance, Student Health Insurance,J1 Visa Insurance, OPT Students Insurance, Europe Travel Insurance, Health Insurance for Visa, International Health Insurance, Group Travel Insurance, Short-term Heath Insurance, Discount Cards, Global Employees Group Insurance .
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Property and Casualty Insurance in regards to: Property (flood, earthquake, home, auto, pet) and Casualty (errors and omissions, workers’ compensation, disability, liability).
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Reinsurance in regards to: Insurance of Proportional, Non Proportional, Risks Attaching Basis, Losses Occurring basis, Claims –Made basis.
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in vehicle Insurance in regards to: insurance of cars, trucks, motorcycles, and other road vehicles.
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Life and Health insurance in regards to: Insurance of Health (Dental, Vision, Medications), Life (Long-Term Care, Accidental Death and Dismemberment, Hospital Indemnity), Miscellaneous (Europe Travel Insurance, Trip Cancellation Insurance, Cruise Insurance, Missionaries Insurance, marine Crew Insurance), Annuities (Securities) and Life and Annuities.

Seats : 10 Seats X 3 Shift
Payout : $10 Per Hour Per Agent
Billing : Approx 35 lakhs for 30 Seats. (Advance Billing for 1 Month at the time of Go Live)

Payment methodology: The Business Associate will diligently carry out Inbound Customer Care work; Business Associates will get calls on a regular daily basis as per below mentioned terms and conditions. Client agrees to provide Validation formats/Process document and other necessary information for processing documents to the Business Associate at the time of work commencement. The Business Associate shall submit the Reports as per schedule provided by the client; however Payouts are be released after getting the QC report of (bi-weekly) that particular period. The Client will pay each bill within maximum 5th of each month, all then payouts are going to be release after Quality Check Certificate. The Payout can be raised through e-mail or Fax and followed by hard copy. Q.C will be provided in 10-15 working days.

Quality: The Business Associate shall maintain accuracy of 84.99% for the processed as per Quality score card terms and norms. If the Business Associate cannot reach 84.99% accuracy on 1st submission then the Client shall give the Business Associate another 15 days for rectifying the mistake in future workings and there after the Client has the right to terminate this agreement on receiving 3rd Quality report with a further notice.

Documents Required:

• Company Profile and DOT Certificate
• Company’s LOI (Letter of Interest)
• Director’s Proof along with Senior Management Profile
• Pan Card o Company’s Registration Proof
• Center’s Screen Shots

Technical Requirements:

• 2 MBPS Leased Line + Server ( Min 8 GB RAM IBM X360 with Xeon Processor )
• 10-12 Seats capacity with 12 computers along with 12 headphones.
• Dual core Computers (Minimum) + 1 GB RAM.
• Server: “IBM X360 (Xeon Processor) with 8 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD (Minimum or more than that).
• PABX, ACD and CRM are from Client Side 4 MBPS Leased Line or we also accept if center wanted to use their Thin Clients shall operate in a Fiber rich environment with its own bandwidth.
• In Each Slot, A team of 10 (Ten), Agents (the Team), 1 Team Leaders, one Trainer. All mentioned above must be provided in One week, starting from the day this agreement is signed.

Commercial Charges Apply : Signup amount: INR 7,00,000

If you are interested contact us @ contact.savebpo@gmail.com or call us at 9701875999/ 8143444986

Please don’t ask for more details as you got them all in this post.

The offered campaign needs the knowledge of an insurance salesman. The education of an insurance salesman takes in Europe 3 years. How can agents, which don't know anything about insurances and centers where even the center owners don't know something about the law in foreign countries, will be able to handle such a job? How good the education in India is and how much interest about foreign laws gets already shown by offering such a sham campaign. The scammer is even too stupid to invent a real scam campaign.

That education of the scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra has been not better than passing far away from any school gets shown by the fact that he requires IBM X360 Xeon Processor for the center. it shows only that he has no idea about the requirements of a call center and the work of a call center. A client will not load any application to the server of the center. Into forms are getting only some text data to the server of the client submitted. Such a datatransfer to websites can get done at the lowest speed of a mobile Internet connection. Depending on the used codec from the center and the VoIP provider is additional a bandwidth between 8kBit/sec and 80kBit/sec per seat necessary. A bandwith of 1MBit/sec would be plenty enough for a center with 10 agents.

The scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra from savebpo.com seems even to be stupid, because I have warned him in a chat about the scam. As everybody can see it in the provided protocol below he agreed with it and continued to post more of his scam campaigns instead of deleting them. The provided timezone is GMT+1:

1:32pm Save Bpo:
Thank you for your caution
Ill look into this
but i see there are 3 centers running this process from 18 months
Can you help me with this ?

1:45pm Rudolf Faix: You can only delete it because it is against the U.S. consumer protection law. Some other option is not possible

1:45pm Save Bpo:
Hmm, Thank you
Well i got partnered with callcentersindia.com and got these projects
Do you think its worth to work with them ?

1:46pm Rudolf Faix: Each inbound project with consumer data is nothing else than scam (countries: Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.)

1:47pm Save Bpo:
Sorry
with callcenterpartner.com *

1:47pm Rudolf Faix:
That is nothing else than an advanced fee scam. Agents would even not be able to handle it without a few month training
You should know about the law in the different countries before you are offering something

1:49pm Save Bpo: True

1:49pm Rudolf Faix: the only possible and legit campaigns are lead generation

1:50pm Save Bpo: Ill have a look into them

2:13pm Rudolf Faix: callcenterpartner has the campaign not at their homepage. Have I overseen it?

He did even not stop with his copy and paste process from callcenterpartners.com. He even copied the campaign from Deep Blue Marketing where onshore U.S. centers are getting searched. It seems that he thinks that U.S. companies are searching in India or on India websites for campaigns. For this idea you need to have studied, like he has written on his LinkedIn profile, at the Kakatiya University. We all know that intelligence is not commercially acquirable. Without thinking he has copied all campaigns from callcenterpartners.com - even the scam campaigns where data needs to get used, which are protected by law and not one client will give a center access to these data.

The above campaign gets found in the callcentersform.com and rssing.com. With other words the scammer even does not know from where he is copyng the campaigns. The only purpose or the campaign offers is to get an advance fee. That is nothing else than SCAM!!! All actions of the scammer are showing only how lazy he is. Malladi Phanindra / Phani Indra is even too lazy to invent his own campaigns. It seems to be very hard for someone which likes to have studied at an University to use his brain.

Summary

• Not one client will risk to get fined with millions of dollars for giving you access to his customer database. The fine is much higher then the client is able to save on such a project.
  
  
• Uneducated agents are not able to handle such a job
  
  
• Everwhere where you have to pay to get some campaigns you'll get only scammed
  
  
• Fees for the broker or consultant need to get paid from this one, which hires the broker or consultant and not from the company which shall do the work.
  
  
• Real brokers with a contract with a client have to work for the client and not for the center for this the client has to pay them
  
  
• Scammers like Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra are thinking they can get rich by creating a website and copy and paste from others without any knowledge of the content. They even don't know that not one client is searching for a broker or consultant from abroad!
  For this reason it does not make any sense to create a platform like savebpo.com in India. Not one client will use it.
  
  
• Scammers from India are normally not listed with their sham companies on the site Ministry of Corporate Affairs (http://www.mca.gov.in/DCAPortalWeb/dca/SearchCIN.do). But be aware you can get scammed from listed companies there too.

Domain registration data from savebpo.com:

Domain Name: SAVEBPO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1844257178_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-12-24T19:02:11Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
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Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Phani Indra
Registrant Organization: SaveBpo
Registrant Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Registrant Street: Malkajgiri
Registrant City: Hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 500047
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9701875999
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Phani Indra
Admin Organization: SaveBpo
Admin Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Admin Street: Malkajgiri
Admin City: Hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 500047
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9701875999
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Phani Indra
Tech Organization: SaveBpo
Tech Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Tech Street: Malkajgiri
Tech City: Hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 500047
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9701875999
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Name Server: NS1.IPAGE.COM
Name Server: NS2.IPAGE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-11-16T12:00:00Z <<<

We know from previous cases that scammer don't have any education, are not trained to use their brain, are too lazy to do some real work and like to get only your hard earned money. The same is it with Manoj Kumar Devisetty and his domains microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com and cognialtechnologies.net.

Let us first take a look at the social network profiles of the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty:

Social Network Profiles of the Scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Facebook (pdf)		LinkedIn (pdf)
	Works at Voxant SOFT Went to Ravindra Bharathi Public School (Left in 2006) Lives in Hyderabad, India From Vijawada, India	C.E.O Hyderabad und Umgebung, Indien | IT und Services Actual: C.E.O Before: ask4technology, Microsense Private Limited Education: ravindhrabarathi school

He is using the same free email address manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com from Google. He is using the same email address for his scam offers too (the offer gets found at LinkedIn Pulse too):

From: Manoj Kumar Devisetty <manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 2:10 PM
Subject: Business propos

Outbound and Inbound Tech support

We are one of the leading tech support outsource and dial for USA and United Kingdom,As we are looking for he center who want to dial from the our company

We are the only center who pay’s the Hourly Basis in Tech support

Minimum centers 5(Five)

Payout:4$(dollars)/Agent/Hr in prorated basis

Most success rate for tech sales website

Vendors/Consultants: Please don't share the website details to the centers until or unless they

For vendors/consultant: www.microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com

For access codes Please contact us Viaemail:manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com

                               Phone:+91 8886799995

               United kingdom telephone:(+44) 7031939650

Our access codes will be changed every day at the time of shift timing starts, Access codes will

provide all the centers before one hour of shift starts.

1. Dial-er provided by us.
   
   
2. Voip and data center has to bare (or) we will provide the both for paid.
   
   
3. Training via online Go-meeting from United kingdom with a cost of 200$ (or) center can choose
   
   
4. Any miss use of the website center has to pay penalty of under the governance of United kingdom & Indian judiciary, Fine of 15000$ which i will also mentioned in SLA and MOU.
   
   
   1. Miss-use of the site like fraud sale fine up to 50$-100$ depends up on sales
      
      
   2. sharing of access codes to other center fine applied as rule number 4* strictly enabled
      
      
   3. All the center has to start dialing with an given Ip address.
      
      
   4. Our technology is well equip-ed for the site prevention/centers.
      
      
   5. center has to initiate with us S.O.P (Single Point of Contact).
      
      
5. Inbound calls of 5-10 on a day /*conditions applied(if the center had reached success target of 2
   
   
6. weekly target and monthly target enabled. (*Conditions applied)
   
   
7. Payout cycle 15-20 Working days
   
   
8. Center must have static Ip’s to monitor agents/access call recordings

Until now the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty does not know that real technical support is done only by inbound calls. If this inbound calls are getting generated from malware or are based on wrong information given from websites then is it a criminal action which can result in high fines and jail.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty confirms in his email that he does even not know how a phone system (dialer) is working and likes to provide the phone system to the center. If he provides the phone system for the center, then he has to provide the data and VoIP too or he has to provide one phone system seperately for each center. The center have otherwise no control about the usage of their VoIP connection and their own data.

He likes even to sell the training to the centers. Manoj Kumar Devisetty is so stupid that he does not know for whom the centers are working. If he likes to get the work done, then he has to give a training to the centers free of charge!

The way how he likes to get rich quick is shown in the point 4 of his scam offer. There he likes to get dollar fines in the name of United Kingdom and India. That shows that he even did not get any education, because otherwise he would know that the currency in the United Kingdom is the Pound and in India is it the Indian Rupie (INR). Not one country declares fines in a foreign currency.

At the point 4a the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty declares that each fraud sales will get fined between $50 and $100. The only problem is that each sale in technical support is a fraud sale and the complete campain is nothing else than a big fraud or a big scam.

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty shows his missing technical knowledge of the Internet in the point 4c. There he likes to provide IP addresses to the centers. If he does not setup a VPN system then he will not be able to provide IP addresses to the centers. Even that the center has to start to dial with a given IP address contradicts the point 1 where he says that the phone system (dialer) gets provided. Dialer are normally building up the phone connection and connect the call to the agents which are in duty.

At point 8 he contradicts himself that the center has to have a static ip address and at point 4c he likes to provide an IP address to the center. Here get it shown that he has no technical understanding and even does not know about what he is writing. It seems to me that the complete offer is nothing else than a copy of phrases from other offers,

The scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is even using the name and trademark from Microsoft for his scam domain. That is at least misusage of a trademark and can get prosecuted. In his case does it even not help to hide the domain registry data behind a privacy service - he has forgotten that there is a domain registration history services available too:

Domain Name: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1912410038_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Creation Date: 2015-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-03-23T07:16:26Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
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Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: MICROSOFTCERTIFIEDTECHNICIAN.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
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Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
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DNSSEC: unsigned
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>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T9:00:00Z <<<

As scammer are too lazy to use their brain he has also forgotten to change his email address by registering his second scam domain:

Domain Name: COGNIALTECHNOLOGIES.NET
Registry Domain ID: 1904241447_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainshype.com
Registrar URL: www.domainshype.com
Updated Date: 2015-04-22T02:19:44Z
Creation Date: 2015-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-20T09:12:19Z
Registrar: Domainshype.com, Inc
Registrar IANA ID: 1660
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Registrant Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Registrant Street: hyderabad............
Registrant City: hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 520012
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9000403922
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Admin Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Admin Street: hyderabad............
Admin City: hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 520012
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +91.9000403922
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Manoj Kumar Devisetty
Tech Organization: Cognialtechnologies
Tech Street: hyderabad............
Tech City: hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 520012
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +91.9000403922
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: manojkumardevisetty@gmail.com
Name Server: gns13.hostgator.in
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>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-10-31T09:54:07+0000Z<<<

Maybe it is too hard for him to remeber different user names and passwords. In such a case he need to use a little bit of his brain, which seems to be too hard for him.

Anyway he promotes a system called Intelliweb at the website http://cognialtechnologies.net/about with the following words:

Intelliweb is the highest ranked and award winning company for business service in the world.

We use the most intelligent and efficient technologies servicing business.

The contracdiction for the above sentence gets very fast found if we take a look at the Alexa global ranking of the domain cognialtechnologies.net:

Additional like the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to live in the same house like Barak Obama - the White House - like it is shown at the contact us page of cognialtechnologies.net:

Update November 2, 2015:

To show you how the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty is working I show you the first message, which he sent to me on July 24, 2015 on LinkedIn. With this message he declares that he has no ideas how offshore centers are working and how to identify scammer. It can also be that he likes to get some information about in which kind of campaigns I would invest:

Hi,

Need a help from you that to start an voice process or non voice process asap I have already tried some consultant people and paid money to them and lost lakhs of rupees... Will you please advice me how can I process further and what type of works to take do you had one let me know

Regards
Manoj

Yesterday, a few hours after he has taken a look at my LinkedIn profile, he has contacted me again. The content of his message shows that he has even not been following the link and has been too lazy to read my full article about his scam:

Hi saw you post that I'm doing scams and earn a lot of money.

1. I'm not taking any money from centers and all
2. I do have a proof that we are paying regular payments and happy customers
3. And this is the not they to use... And it also mention in the site it is the form of cognialtechnogies

I do respect you comment and updates bit I don't know why you kept me like this.... Will you please let me know where the situation arises from your side. So that we can rectify the errors

The facts are:

• There is nowhere written that he is earning a lot of money. I cannot know how many stupid people have tried to make some business with the scammer and for this reason I cannot know his income from the scam
  
  
• That he does not take some money from the center is a big lie, because in his offer is written that he likes to get $200 for an online training of the center. Maybe in his scammer dreams are $200 no money or only a tip.
  
  
• With his point 2 "I have a proof that we are paying regular payments ..." he confirms that he likes to play man-in-the-middle. How he can have a proof about regular paymenta if he even did not know two months before which kind of campaigns are legit and which are scam?
  
  
• He even has even forgotten that he is the owner of the domain cognialtechnologies.com. He tries to play even here man-in-the-middle. The statement "... it is the form of cognialtechnogies" shows only that he has a bad memory!
  
  
• I think that even he does not recognize already his own lies and is living in a dream world. Another possibility is that some drugs or alcohol have already destroyed his brain and he is not able to think logically

To say that he is not using any scam is not enough. I understand it like this that he is producing scam instead of using an existing one:

That you can ask me directly and I'm not using any scam according this I'll be happy that you are delete the post of that. And that's

Based on the information he provided until now I see not any failure or error in my opinion that Manoj Kumar Devisetty with his sites microsoftcertifiedtechnician.com and cognialtechnologies.net is nothing else than a scammer! So there is no reason to delete or to correct something.

With his next statement the scammer is already thinking that a phone number from an UK VoIP provider is already a company registration:

My company is n UK also you can check in records sir, as we are moving with good reputation and don't spoil that post

Where is the reputation coming from? I did not find any reputation about one of his domains, which are only 7 and 8 months old. It takes years to build up a good reputation. I know he is a super businessman, which has confirmed three months before that he even don't know how to identify scam offers. Is such a businessman able to build up a good reputation within a few days?

This lie about the UK company can get very easily identified. Each company, which is working B2B needs to have in the European Union a VAT ID. The VAT number is not a secret and has to get provided on each bill. Valid VAT numbers can get verified on a central website. For this reason I asked the scammer Manoj Kumar Devisetty to tell me his VAT number, which he could not provide:

I'm Mr. Rudolf in not working wih you and I doest want to show all the details and you can check in Google search

On this statement I tried to explain him the EU tax and billing rules with the words: "Google is not relevant for this purpose. You have just confirmed that you have even no idea from the billing laws inside the European Union. For this you have no company in the UK. You are nothing else than a scammer. VAT ID's of both parties have to get written on each bill! They are not a secret, they are against tax fraud available!!!"

Bull shit..!! I need not to be get fraud from you and I'm not gaining anything from you and mostly you are not even my clinet to show the proofs and all.... I had just informed you that. With having any relevant kind of information how could you put all by its own way. I don't want to share everyone everything to all to prove my self OK. Thanks Mr.Rudolf please to meet you again this is not personal don't take to the heart everything. And you had a Cline that we had fraud and all if yes, let me know

I know that a scammer cannot provide any proves for this I replied this way: "I know you need not fraud because you make the fraud by yourself. Your lies don't help you and the law is not interested in it what you like or not. Here some information and links about VAT-ID's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAT_identification_number"

Mr.Rudolf its own thing to share... if you please dont mine please delete that and i dont want to get a call from all the people.... i had given the basic details about that and more thing i'm not the slave for you to prove the records from all or else leave it

no one intimated that i'm a scammer and non raise a complete on me and took your own decision to make your self Great work

It does not matter or makes any difference if Manoj Kumar Devisetty has already scammed some people or not. He has at least tried to scam somebody. That fact shows the charcter of Manoj Kumar Devisetty and makes him to a scammer instead of a trustful business partner.

I don't know how other people are calling someone which is

• misusing the name of a trademark
• thinking that he has his office inside the residence of the U.S. president - the White House
• registering at least one domain with an incomplete address (street address of cognialtechnologies.com is missing or wrong)
• offering at least one offshore call center campaign which is nothing else than a big scam (outgoing tech support)
• and lies as soon as he starts typing or open his mouth

For me are such people only SCAMMER, FRAUDSTER and CRIMINALS!!!

Update December 10, 2015: Today I received the answer from the ICANN on my ticket about the Whois Inaccuracy from the domain cognialtechnologies.net:

Dear Rudolf Faix,

Thank you for submitting a Whois Inaccuracy complaint concerning the domain name cognialtechnologies.net. ICANN has reviewed and closed your complaint because:

- Based on the current Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting, cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name.


ICANN considers this matter now closed. If you have reason to believe that your complaint should not be closed, please forward this e-mail along with any other relevant information to ICANN Contractual Compliance at compliance@icann.org . ICANN will review your submission and, if appropriate, forward it to the registrar to ensure compliance.

Please do not reply to this email (replies to closed complaints are not monitored by ICANN staff).

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Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Manoj Kumar Devisetty (https://www.facebook.com/mdevisetty) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

Scammers like WeyBee Solutions - Sangini Mishra from venturasoftwares.com can get easily identified by reading their offers. Such scammers don't have any education and no idea from outsourcing work. As they are even too lazy to learn this scammers are offering campaigns which are not possible by the data protection law in the traditional outsourcing countries.

You can also be sure that not one outsourcing client is searching for a broker or consultant abroad. In such a case the outsourcing client could search for center which is doing his work directly and save the payment for the broker or consultant. An outsourcing client is searching for a broker or consultant in his area for the reason that if something is running wrong to have someone to complain directly.

The email from Sangini Mishra - you'll find my comments after each offer:

From: sangini mishra [mailto:sanginimishra259@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:49 PM
Subject: BPO PROJECTS

 

HI ,

Greetings from VS,

We are international BPO Provider.

Our Company and Projects details are as below.

 

Ventura software’s is a fast growing Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) and a Data Center Solutions Company based at Gujarat, India. We provide cost effective and value added Data Center solutions to our clients. We leverage on our experience and expertise to offer unmatched BPO and Data Center services. Our solutions are customized to reduce cost, increase productivity and quality.

you can visit our website www.venturasoftwares.com

 

Project Details:-

 

1) HR PAY ROLL

This project is an online project .

you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 31 fields in a one form.

We will provide you minimum 180 forms and maximum 200 forms per day per seat.

Payout is Rs 1 per field i.e. Rs 31 per form.

Rework will also provide, if you will get low accuracy.

 

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 139500/- with maximum forms (4500*31) per seat.

This Projects work is available for Monday to Friday (5 days a week). Saturday is available for rechecking the work.

Advance charges is  Rs22000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

95.01%-100.00%                   :   100% PAYMENT

90.01%-95.00%                     :    80%  PAYMENT

85.01%-90.00%                     :    60%  PAYMENT

80.01%-85.00%                     :    40%  PAYMENT

75.01%-80.00%                     :    20%  PAYMENT

61.01%-75.00%                     :    1 TIME REWORK FOR FIRST MONTH

< 60.01%                                :    NO REWORK

The facts:

• Payroll calculation gets done monthly
• The data for the payroll calculation are getting stored in a database
• Each database has an import and export function
• Payroll data are protected by law in the traditional outsourcing countries

If you are using your brain then you'll get it that the above campaign is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Not one company makes the payroll calculation manually
  
  
• Each payroll calculation program stores the data in a database and each database has an import/export function. So why someone needs to enter data manually if he has the possibility to do it fast and with 100% accuracy?
  
  
• A company, which has a staff count of more than 4000 (200 forms per agent per day * 20 days per month) has the necessary reporting software to get the results with 100% accuracy and by pressing only one button. They don't need some manually with failures entered data!!!
  
  
• If you take a look at the accuracy table then you already get it that they have the data available to verify the entered data. So why they shall pay you for something they don't need?
  
  
• Why a company shall take the risk getting fined by outsourcing such a kind of data processing?

2) FISCAL

This project is an offline project , you have to fill the entries on the client software.  There are 28 fields in a one form.

We will provide you 6000 forms for 25 days per seat.

Payout is Rs 22 per form.

Monthly earning with full accuracy is 1,32,000/

Rework will also provide, if you will get low accuracy.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance charges will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

98% - 100%          : Rs 22 per form

96% - 97.99%       : Rs17 per form

93% - 95.99%       : Rs 13 per form

90% - 92.99%       : Rs 9 per form

87% - 89.99%       : Rs 5 per form

85% - 86.99%       : Rework available once

< 85%                   : NO REWORK

The facts:

• Not one company will make their tax reporting manually.
• In the most traditional outsourcing countries are getting tax declarations transmitted electronically
• Failures is reporting tax will result in a fine in the high of 100% of the wrong reported tax

By using your own brain then you'll find out the above work is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Not one company makes the tax calculation manually
  
  
• Each tax calculation program stores the data in a database and each database has an import/export function and each tax calculation program will transmit the results directly to the tax office or will generate the complete form for the tax office. So why someone needs to enter data manually if he has the possibility to do it fast and with 100% accuracy?
  
  
• A company, which has a staff count of more than 6000 (6000 forms per agent per month) has the necessary tax calculation and reporting software to get the results with 100% accuracy and by pressing only one button. They don't need some manually with failures entered data!!!
  
  
• If you take a look at the accuracy table then you already get it that they have the data available to verify the entered data. So why they shall pay you for something they don't need?
  
  
• Tax data are protected by the data protection law. So why shall a company take the risk getting fined by outsourcing such a kind of data processing?

3) PURCHASE

This project is an offline project, you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 38 fields in a one form.

We will provide you minimum 230 forms and maximum 250 forms per day per seat.

Payout is Rs 0.55 per field i.e.Rs 20.9 per form.

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 114950/- with maximum forms (5500*20.9) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

95.01%-100.00%          :   50 paisa per field

90.01%-95.00%            :   30 paisa per field

85.01%-90.00%            :    20 paisa per field

80.01%-85.00%            :    10 paisa per field

< 80.01%                      :    NO REWORK

purchase.docx (291.43 kb)

The Word document contains only the following screenshot:

Such a form filling is useless for the following reasons:

• As at the scan is no billing address found is it not possible to use such a bill in the financial records of the buyer. The buyer could collect the trashed bills in front of the supermarket too.
  
  
• The supermarket itself has a digital readable form stored in their own database. They don't need manual entered data.
  
  
• As there are accuracy parameters given are the correct data available for calculating the accuracy result. So why someone should pay you for something what is available?

4) MEDICLAIM

This project is an offline project , you have to fill the entries on the client software.       There are 70 fields in a one form.

We will provide you 4000 forms for 22 days per seat.

Payout is Rs 0.50 per field i.e. Rs 35 per form.

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 140000/- (4000*35) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

100%- 97%        :  35 INR/FORM

96.9%-93%        :  30  INR/FORM

92.9%-87%         :  20  INR/FORM

86.9%-80%         :  7  INR/FORM

79.9%-60%         :   3  INR/FORM

59.9%-40%         :   1  INR/FORM

< 40%                 :   NO REWORK

mediclaim.docx (286.73 kb)

The Word document contains only the following screenshot:

The offered form filling process is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Medical data are in the traditional outsourcing countries - in this case USA - highly protected by law. Fines for breaking the law are dramatically and ruinous. Not one company takes the risk to get fined for breaking the law.
  
  
• As in the USA are getting such data directly collected at the place where the data apply. This data are getting transmitted electronically to the insurance company. There is no reason to enter data manually.
  
  
• Here does the scammer even don't know who is responsible for bandwidth, server, software, training, technical  support. The outsourcing client likes to get the work done on his way. For this are all this charges the problem of the client and not the problem of the center which is doing the work!!! Maybe the scammer has been drunk or under drugs by inventing this caampaign.

5) Checking Work:-

250 pages will provide for checking

Time Duration is 15 Days.

Monthly earning with full accuracy is Rs. 25000/-

Advance charges is  Rs10000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

90.1% - 100.0%      :25,000/- (Rs 100/- Per page)

80.1% - 90.0%        :18,750/- (Rs 75/- Per Page)

70.1% - 80.0%        :12,500/- (Rs 50/- Per Page) 

60.1% - 70.0%        :6250/- (Rs 25/- Per Page)

50.1% - 60.0%        :3000/- (Rs 12/- Per Page)    

Below 50.1%           :Nil (Slot terminate)

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XENA5207804eb547183.txt (4.77 kb)

I have converted the .tif file to a standard .jpg file to show it immediately here:

The above offered work is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• As we see the above text is nothing else than a scanned computer printout. That means the text is already electronically stored available. The owner of the copyright has the text in a computer readable form stored available. If someone else like to copy it, than is it against the copyright law and the fines for breaking the copyright law are very high in the traditional outsourcing countries. For this reason nobody will offer such a work.
  
  
• As this job has accurancy parameters given, the result needs to get proven against the available data. So why someone shall pay you for a work, which is already done?

6) EXCEL

This project is an offline project,  you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 15 columns in a one row.

Time Duration is 11  Days.

We will provide you 5000 rows per seat.

Payout is Rs 9 per row.

Earnings with full accuracy is Rs.35000/- (5000*7) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs10000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

97.01%-100.00%   :   INR 7.00 per row

95.01%-97.00%     :   INR 5.50 per row

94.51%-95.01%     :   INR 4.50 per row

93.01%-94.01%     :   INR 3.50 per row

92.01%-93.01%     :   INR 2.00 per row

90.01%-92.01%     :   INR 1.00 per row

< 90.01%               :   No Rework

The above work offer is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• We see that the content is nothing else than a computer generated list. If a computer can generate the list the above way then it is possible to generate the output result in the way how the data are needed. That is a much faster and cheaper way than to enter the data manually. So why someone should pay you for something what he can have faster and with 100% accuracy.
  
  
• As there are accuracy parameters in the project offer are the data already available to calculate the accuracy. So why someone should give you work and pay you for it if he has the result already available?

 7) LOAN

This project is an online project, you have to fill the entries on the client software.

We will provide you 26 forms per day per seat.

There are 250 to 300 fields in a one form.

Working day is Tuesday to Saturday (5 days a week) and working hours is 8 per day.

Payout is fixed USD 1000 per month per seat.

There is NO accuracy level.

There is NO BLANK field allowed.

Advance charges is  Rs22000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance charges is fully refundable in the  1^st billing.

loan1.TIF (139.16 kb)

I have converted the above .tif file to a standard .jpg file to show the form here:

The above form filling offer is nothing else than scam, because banking data (loan are banking data) are highly protected by the data protection law. Such data are getting collected at the front desk of the bank where their client is asking for the loan. The banking staff is updating or entering the data directly to the computer. There is no reason to outsource such a work and take the risk for getting fined from the government.

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if you have any queries than contact us.
Please fill free to contact us.
Contact details: Sangini Mishra
Contact number: 7048278826

Thanks & Regards

Sangini  Mishra

If some center owner gets scammed from WeyBee Solutions - venturasoftwares.com - Sangini Mishra, then he is guilty by himself because he is more stupid than the scammer.

The fact that the work is for the center only against hudge up-front fees available confirms that the scammer WeyBee Solutions - venturasoftwares.com - Sangini Mishra has no contract with any client and for this reason no other income possibility than the up-front fee. Every word in the above email is nothing else than a big lie!!!

Domain registration data of venturasoftwares.com: 

Domain Name: VENTURASOFTWARES.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1928488761_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WeyBee Solutions
Registrant Organization:
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It is difficult for offshore call centers to provide their services by using a legal way. On one side they need to work lucrative on the other side they need to keep themselves on the law and government regulations of the destination country of their calls, what makes their work very difficult.

If you are watching the following video or read the transcript from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan, then you’ll get it that you are not allowed to greet the called one with a recording and if the center likes to sell something – what is in the most cases the reason for the call from an offshore call center – then the client of the center needs to have a written permission of their victims, which should get called.

The first problem with the greeting done by a life person can get easily handled by adjusting the dial system that every time is at least one free agent is available who can take the call immediately and greet the called one.

If the client provides calling data the second problem can get solved too. In respect to the data protection law is the client not allowed to provide more detailed information as can get found in a public phone directory. In any case should keep the center a copy of the data transmission or the email with the access to the data for having a proof. The center shall keep the proofs at least 10 years in evidence.

We can find the following explanations from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan about Robocalls at the homepage of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC):

Few things can be more annoying than answering the phone while you're in the middle of something — and then being greeted by a recording.

If you receive a robocall trying to sell you something (and you haven’t given the caller your written permission), it’s an illegal call. You should hang up. Then, file a complaint with the FTC and the National Do Not Call Registry.

Transcript from the video above:

If you have a telephone, robocalls may be ruining your day. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you answer the phone and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, it's a robocall. If the recording is a sales message and you haven't given your written permission to get calls from the company on the other end, the call is illegal period.

So when you get an illegal robocall, here's what to do. Hang up the phone. Don't press one to speak to a live operator. And don't press any other number to get off the list. If you respond by pressing any number, it will probably just lead to more robocalls.

You might consider contacting your phone provider and asking them to block the number and whether they charge for that service. Remember that telemarketers change caller ID information easily and often. So it might not be worth paying a fee to block a number that will change.

Finally, contact the FTC to report your experience. You can do that online at ftc.gov or by calling 1-877-FTC-HELP. To learn more about illegal robocalls and what the FTC is doing to stop them, visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Another video from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan give some more information:

Transcript of the video above:

If you have a telephone, it probably seems like illegal robo calls are out of control. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you pick up the phone, and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, that's a robocall.

Consumers are getting more and more robo calls, and they are not happy about it. As the number of calls has multiplied, the number of complaints has, too. The reason for the spike in robo calls has to do with technology. Companies are using auto dialers, that can send out thousands of phone calls every minute, for an incredibly low cost.

What's important is that the companies that use this technology don't bother to screen for the numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry. If a company doesn't care about obeying the law, you can be sure they're trying to scam you. You've probably gotten robo calls about candidates running for office, or charities asking for donations. These robo calls are allowed. But any robo call that's trying to sell you something probably is illegal, unless you've given your written permission to get calls from that company.

The FTC has stopped billions, yes billions, of robo calls in the last two years. Tracing these calls is a tough job, and there are a few reasons for that. One, is that many different companies use the same, or very similar, recorded messages. Another, is that they fake the caller ID information that you see on your phone. That's called caller ID spoofing, and new technology makes it very easy to do. And the third, is that the robo callers often place the calls through internet technology, that hides their location.

At the FTC, we're continuing our aggressive enforcement efforts. And we're also looking for innovative, technological solutions to the robo call problem. For more information, please visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Don’t forget that the fines in the U.S. are very high. Everybody who needs to defend himself in front of the law court will think first about himself and will very fast forget his given promises only for the reason that the fine will be a little bit less drastically. Your client will be coming first into the focus of the investigators, because you are selling his products. So your client or broker will in the best case provide the contact details of his partner in crime to the state attorney for getting a better deal for his own judgement. He will even try to make you alone guilty for his own fails. You need to have in this case proofs for your own protection and defense.

The very stupid scammer Sagar Gupta has tried to scam my LinkedIn friends to get campaigns. He writes that he even has experience in “banking” campaigns. I hope that all are already knowing already that a bank will never outsource any campaign because their customer data are high protected by the law. For the case a bank staff forwards any information about a customer to someone else outside of the bank he will end up in jail and the bank needs to pay a high fine for the security breach. For this reason the Scammer Sagar Gupta can only have any experience on his own banking account for the case he has one.

The scammer Sagar Gupta is from India and seems to use a call forwarding service from Canada. If he would be really located in Canada, then he would know where he need to search for clients and campaigns. His behavior shows only that he is a big liar.

As I have in sum more than 2,000 “friends” at the social networks, mostly call centers and scammers, will it be a hard job for a scammer to find out exactly the three trusted campaign-broker friends which are offering campaigns without any upfront. Not one of the three will allow others trading their campaigns. For this is there no chance for a scammer in getting rich by using this way.

The LinkedIn email from the scammer Sagar Gupta:

On 8/20/15, 12:21 PM, Sagar Gupta wrote:
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Hello Mr. Kothari,

As per our telephonic conversation, I am sending you this email containing overview of my profile and details of company. I got your reference and details from Mr. Rudolf Faix for the BPO campaigns.

My name is Sagar Gupta. I am CEO | Co-founder of Weboitte company which is located in the region of Kitchener/Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. I just started a call center business in India with the name of Webourney Consulting Services Pvt Ltd. I am expecting a lot from this company, everything has been done just seeking for some clients as the first step. My level of expertise in this business is sales, telecommunication, marketing, banking and many more. As a start-up I am looking for genuine clients and projects. Me and my company are good for inbound/outbound and back-end services and also we are specialist in chat support field.

Moving forward I want to make good relation in the market of a call center. I will look forward for your reply.


Thanks and Regards’
Sagar Gupta
CEO | Webourney Consulting Services
+1 5199983030

If you get some campaigns offered from the scammer Sagar Gupta or from Webourney Consulting Services you should put the email into the trash box. It is only a waste of time and money to deal with such a scammer. You can also be sure that I don't support and campaign trader which are asking for any fees or deposits from the centers. Please ask me for a confirmation for the case that someone use my name for any recommendation in making business with you. It is for your own security.