Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

Yesterday I got an email with the content that sage.co.uk or staff from them is scamming center owners. As Sage is a big software company from UK I did not believe it. Why should a big company be in need to take a few thousands or Pounds from center owners?

The content of the email has been:

I got Cheated by person called Sameer Ahuja , Ranveer swamy and Leisa Dorcherty , In the name of Business they took $ 490  Fraudulently and Now they are not receiving call and not replying mail also I filed a complaint in Near by Police station , 
sameer Ahuja  Skype id : sameer.sage-inc  , Mobile Number (Office ) - 00447509754621 , (personnel) - 00447509756623

Ranveer Swamy skype id : ranveer.sage-inc
Leisa Dorcherty skype id : leisa.sage-inc
Account number which they have given
Bank Name : State Bank of India
Name: Ranveer Swami
Account no.- 20176913465
IFSC code: SBIN0001161
Branch- IIT Kanpur

Let us verify the data, which seem to be true of this scam.

If someone calls you and he is transmitting his caller id, then it is possible to call him back. If the same person picks up the call than you have at least a phone number, which can get verified. In our case it is a little bit difficult, because the UK data protection act don’t let you make a reverse phone lookup.

Under the UK's data protection act, reverse phone number lookups are against the law. There are however a couple of options, depending on your situation.

If you are receiving nuisance calls, then you should contact your phone provider and lodge a complaint. Should the problem persist, then contacting the police is an option.

Only the area can get located where the call comes from. In our case is it a mobile phone from the area of Jersey.

By having the phone number and the location we find the first reason why the scam is not from Sage. Jersey is in an Island in front of the coast of France. It belongs to the UK territory. Sage is located in Newcastle upon Tyne. If we use Google maps and let us calculate a route, than we see that the shortest route is 781 km and it takes around 11 hours to drive the route without respecting the possible traffic and resulting traffic jam. Nobody will drive to his workplace this distance. On the other side nobody will use a mobile phone from an area, which is around 800km away from his home or workplace and where he needs to use even a ferry going to the island.

The office and the private phone numbers are mobile phone numbers.  A big company like Sage has a land line phone number for their office. They are not using mobile phones for their office.  Manager from a company with the size of Sage will not give you their private phone number. Leisa Docherty is a manager from Sage.

Additional to the reason that you need not pay in Europe for getting some work you can easily verify such offers, which are coming from such companies. Sage has published some phone numbers at their website the offer can get easily verified if you are calling one of their phone numbers. If you have really a contact with one of the manager, then you will be able to pass the gatekeeper.

The next information which seems to be true is the bank account number, because the scammer likes to get the money. The name can be already a fake. It is the age of electronic transactions. For this the name will not get verified during a transaction from the bank as long as the account number is correct.

A company like Sage will every time use their real bank account and not a private account from someone in India. The reason for this is the strict tax law in Europe. Each company need to have a correct financial bookkeeping, which gets verified from time to time from tax officers of the government.

The only possible way to catch the scammer is over their phone number and their bank account.  In our case it the scammer located in India, because the bank account is there. The phone number gets simple forwarded by Voice over IP to any place in the world. Don’t let yourself get fooled bank accounts are normally in the same area where the company is registered. With the usage of electronic banking you have access to your bank account all over the world. For this there is no reason to have a bank account abroad if you have not an affiliate in the country abroad.

All other information cannot get verified. The LinkedIn accounts could got hacked and everybody can chose his Skype ID how he likes to name it. There is no verification for company names by creating an account. Each free combination can get chosen.

Companies are using for their contracts their own registered domain names for sending and receiving emails. Only people, which have something to hide, are hiding themselves by using freemail accounts. Companies, which are using official such freemail accounts have listed them on their homepage too.

The only criticism that can be made sage.co.uk is that they do not respond to emails. Apparently they do not care that criminals are using the name of SAGE. A company that not even not care about the crime, where her name is used, will not take care of the interests of their clients. This is the sign of today's society. Everyone cares only about their personal profits and the profit of their shareholders.

The scammer are speculating with the greed of the people. So don't see the proposed winning - take a look if you are not pay for get nothing!!! A good name in the offer does not guarantee something. Use your brain and make in each case a background check!!!

Today I got an add request from Ishita Choudhary and as soon I have accepted her I got immediately an offer. In this offer has been written:

"We will be requiring your company profile for the verification process. If company profile is not available then please provide us any scan copy of your photo ID proof (Aadhar Card / Pan Card / Voting Card / Passport copy / Driving License) with your current profile."

I have been looking at her profile. There I found an agency picture instead one of a real person and only a Google email address. So she hides herself in the anonymity of the Internet. The result for me has been that she has something to hide. How she can even think in this case that somebody will send her a copy of any document. Everybody need to think about identity theft in this case.

She sent me afterwards the address of her homepage (www.amigosoutsourcing.com [2016-02-25: Link removed as the domain already not exists]). I checked first the registry data about scamadviser.com. The result has been:

Alert Result: The owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
Alert Result: This website is 54 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: The website appears to be less than six months old

Afterwards I have been looking at their website. There has been written an address. This seems to be a fake address, because nobody registers his website with an anonymizer service and writes afterwards his real address at the webpage. Doing this does not make any sense.

For a domain, which is 54 days old is the counter shown at their website with 2110 visits and 4195 page views very high. Alexa gives the site a rank of 5 566 540 and a daily page view per visitor of 2. So they have started their counters with an initial value of 2000/4000.

Nobody shall trust such a "company" as long as they are not building up their reputation. As it seems to be normal for them to lie, it would be very difficult for them to build up an online reputation. Even the sentence "Amigos info services started building the ways since 2012.Later converted into Amigos Outsourcing." can be a fake because Google did not find anything historical about "Amigos info services". Changing the name after a few months until 2 years operations make them more suspicious than trustful.

Result: For the case they are a real company then everything what they could do wrong, they did wrong until now.

My LinkedIn mail communication with Ishita Choudhary from amigosoutsourcing.com:

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 03:17 (GMT + 1):

Hello Sir,

Hope You Are Doing Very Well!!

Ishita Choudhary(Business Development Executive)

Hello Sir,

Greetings for the day.

Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd

Amigos Outsourcing started building the ways for our esteemed clients since 2013. In December 2014, Amigos Outsourcing converted from Partnership firm to Pvt. Ltd Company as Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd is the leading BPO company in Jaipur, Rajasthan. We believe in innovation and quality services and serves the finest & well-known domestic & an International clients. We focus on complimenting offshore call center outsourcing with an internal improvements that increase the efficiency and profitability of our clients Stakeholders.

Currently we have projects like :

• Matrimonial form filling (Offline)
• Southern E-bill form filling (Offline)
• Resume writing (Online)
• Business Directory (Online)
• E- Book Publishing (Online)
• Publisher Data Form Filling (offline)

We will be requiring your company profile for the verification process. If company profile is not available then please provide us any scan copy of your photo ID proof (Aadhar Card / Pan Card / Voting Card / Passport copy / Driving License) with your current profile.

After getting the company profile and approval is done, commercial details will provided immediately.

Please do the needful.

It would be our pleasure to work with you.

Hoping for the positive response.

Thanking you.

For More Details:

Skype:ishita.choudhary5

Mail:choudharyishita89@gmail.com

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 03:35 (GM+1):

Hi Ishita

If you like to verify someone, then you cannot hide yourself in the anonymity of the Internet. I think more that you have a reason why you hide yourself behind a agency picture.

Take a look at my homepage at http://www.wwpa.com. There is listed what and at which condition we are working.

Unlike you, I do not need to hide myself and I can use my real name and my own picture in my profile.

Read first this: http://fraud-systems.wwpa.com/post/identity-theft and if you don't believe me than go directly to https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-fraud-schemes/identity-theft

best regards

Rudolf

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 03:53 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

Thanks for your Advise.

We are not hiding our identity.we have genuine process.

you can visit our website.

www.amigosoutsourcing.com

and you can take to chance work with us..

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 03:58 (GMT+1):

Hello Ishita

How you call this if you are not calling it hiding:

Alert Result: The owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
Alert Result: This website is 54 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: The website appears to be less than six months old

best regards

Rudolf

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 04:02 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

I know now dayz 99% scam does happen.

but you want to do business then make deal to someone trust them and after that if you found any fraud you can case them.

100% legal documents,pdc,bg we provide.

Thanking You

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 04:12 (GMT+1):

Hello Ishita

As you are hiding yourself, nobody will send you any document copies. If you like to verify my business than you can take the information found at the link Imprint (https://blog.wwpa.com/page/imprint) and there you'll find at which office my company is registered ("Authority in accordance with ecommerce law: Bezirkshauptmannschaft Tulln").

You have:

• a freemail address
• a picture of an agency at your profile
• a hidden registered domain
• and you are less than 2 month in business

For this facts you have to prove your identity first!

best regards

Rudolf

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 13:26 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

i agree with you ,I am not forcing you to trust us.

have a nice day.

Thanking You.

Since I have started my private war against the scammer, I have noticed that a lot of people at LinkedIn have changed their profile picture. Some of them have put their real picture at their profile and some have removed their pictures. This one, which have removed their pictures are trying to hide something from you.

Every scammer likes to hide his identity, because he likes to disappear as soon as he received your money. For this you should ignore offers, which are coming with the following fails:

• Profiles without pictures
  
  
• Profiles with pictures from celebrities, photo models, animals, flowers, arts, company logos, etc. Use Google image search for finding out such pictures.
  
  
• Domains, where the domain owner is hidden by an anonymization service
  
  
• Domains, where the domain owner is named like “Domain Admin”, “Domain Owner”, etc.
  
  
• Domains, where the email address of the domain owner is an address of a freemail service. They have needed a real email address too for registering their freemail address.
  
  
• People, which like to communicate with you only by using a service from a freemailer. It is ok, if the first contact is done by a freemailer, but afterwards they should use their own email address.
  
  
• People, which have no other contact possibility then skype. They are only wasting your high valued time
  
  
• Offers, which sounding too good to be true (like get thousands of dollars for doing nearly nothing). Nobody can give you money as a gift
  
  
• Offers, which suggest you that you need to be fast to get it. Take a look how many times such offers are getting repeated. You have all time of the world to prove the offer and for making a background check
  
  
• Offers, where you have to pay any fees like upfront, consulting, etc. for getting it. Even they are a fake if they are promising it that you get it back after a few months.

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