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Scammer Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. - gtobpo.com - J K Rana

Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd.The EMail from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. with a link to www.gtobpo.com brought Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd.into my focus for a review about their activities. A look at their homepage has shown me the same ISO 9001:2008 certification and they are the providing the same offers, which are breaking the ISO 9001 rules. The offers are like from each other scammer. Their presentation is the same like we know it from the other scammer already.

An ISO certification says nothing about the quality of their products and services. An ISO certification is only documenting that a company is documenting their internal process flow that each case can get easily traced.

We know from our previous found scammer that they are lazy and we know is it very hard that something get's forgotten, which is stored once at a website. For this i go in one of the web archives and trace back from for get the date at which an offer has appeared first in the Internet.

The site http://web.archive.org/ has taken a snapshot of http://www.gtobpo.com 42 times between November 6, 2011 and March 25, 2015. I think that it will show us the date when the campaigns got offered first and when the last changes happened.

This are the results of web.archive.org for the offers on the site. Some of this offers are getting offered from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. as a new campaign (all data in the list got copied and pasted - not typed):

Business Transcription
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Business-Transcription
Saved 4 times between August 6, 2013 and October 6, 2013.

Health Insurance 5 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-5-PC
Saved 1 time on May 5, 2014

Health Insurance 10 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-10-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

Health Insurance 20 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-20-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

Health Insurance 30 PC
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Health-Insurance-30-PC
Saved 1 time on May 7, 2014

DATA MANAGEMENT PROCESS RBC BANK
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/RBC-BANK
Saved 7 times between August 4, 2013 and February 21, 2014.

CAF Form Filling Project Reliance
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Reliance-CAF-Form-Filling-Project
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 19, 2014.

From Filing Projects State Bank OF India
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/State-Bank-OF-India
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 10, 2014.

Form Filing Projects Syndicate Bank
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Syndicate-Bank
Saved 7 times between August 4, 2013 and May 30, 2014.

Form Filling Project Union Bank
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/Union-Bank
Saved 6 times between August 6, 2013 and May 7, 2014.

USA Tax Number Form Filling
http://www.gtobpo.com/projects/Form-Filling-Project-Banking/USA-Tax-Number-Form-Filling
Saved 5 times between August 6, 2013 and February 10, 2014.

We see that the youngest campaign is the Health Insurance campaign. This campaign is nearly one year old. With this campaign seems to be something wrong if this campaign could not find a center within one year to get sold. If I compare this campaign with the Kathy Sisk Enterprises campaigns, then I can say that their campaigns are now around 10 days listed at my blog and their NDA got 111 times downloaded. For this I have only one explanation for the campaign from Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. and Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. that they are only SCAM.

Health insurance data are high sensible data In the most countries is it forbidden by law to give external people access to such data.

Another interesting fact are the addresses of Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. and Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.:

Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
1-B, Hind Nager L.D.A Colony, Kanpur Road Lucknow 1-B Nanak Arcade 85-A Hind Nagar L.D.A Colony, Opposite Shivalik School, Lucknow-226012 U.P. (INDIA)

For me are both addresses the same one. 

We see in the Facebook timeline of Global Technologiy and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. that the screen shot from the NEW captcha process, jpeg to doc pdf and health insurance process offered by Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. got already shared on November 22, 2013!!!

As scammer are very lazy he did even not remove the negative reviews from his Facebook profile.

At Google+ we find a posting Ashwani Kumar from July 22, 2012:

Öffentlich geteilt  -  22.07.2012
 
 
 a project provider J K Rana who is main person for dealings...he asked me to come and meet him to clear my problems on his fake identity he said that "he has working for last 10 years so there is no doubt on me ,you can come at my office ..." my friend went  and he saw that there was no office and his landlord said that j k rana has arrested for doing fraud around crores and the main accused is ran away. in that case i m lucky where mr. rana was asking money for booking the slots on that time i refused. EVEN YOU CAN CHECK HIS WEB SITE -----WWW.GTOBPO.COM--- still is working but now is only running there is no one for maintenance...Now WHAT TO DO...? NOW i m feel like a pendulum ....i need help any one can help me out  

Additional facts why the offers from Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. are not more than only SCAM:

  • With their offered processes and the requested business fee they are certifying that they have no contract with their client and for this they are not able to give you any guarantees that you’ll get the project and that you’ll get paid.

  • Scammers want to make it harder for the police by using a graphics or a false profile pictures. They do not want to provide a manhunt image by themselves.

  • Scammer are using privacy protection services for hiding the data in their domain registration

  • Each work, where you have to pay to get it is nothing more than SCAM
    If a broker likes to take money from both sites is an absolutely no go! In the case of a dispute he is working for this party, which is paying the higher sum. That disqualifies any business person from being trustful.

  • In Europe and USA the documents are getting scanned and stored as binary documents in a database. Each scan is getting tags that it can easily found again. These tags have the same function like the tag cloud known from the blogs. The only difference is that the document itself gets linked to the customer, supplier, commercial case records which are involved to retrieve the original document. To this system you’ll not get an access because of the security reasons and law for data protection in the “rich” countries.

Additional we find at http://www.consumercomplaints.co/gto-bpo-fake-employees/ 2 complaints about their business:

September 27, 2014:
they say they have the project but in actual they don't have it. Ghanshyam, Santosh, Varun all these people are unfaithful,
they do not know what they need to do, don't know their job and irresponsible
March 6, 2015:
GTO BPO/JOSOFT is a fake company. they say that they have the project. after taking the money they don't provide. totally fake guys. I got cheated with 4 Lacs

My opinion: If you take all this facts and the complaints together, then the result will be that Global Technology and Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. is nothing else then a scammer and the ISO certification is a fake.

Domain registration data of gtobpo.com:

Domain Name: GTOBPO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1673909859_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
Updated Date: 2015-01-10T12:38:00Z
Creation Date: 2011-08-26T09:59:55Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-26T09:59:55Z
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited ([link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City: Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province: Queensland
Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
Registrant Country: AU
Registrant Phone: +45.36946676
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Admin
Admin Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Admin Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Admin City: Nobby Beach
Admin State/Province: Queensland
Admin Postal Code: QLD 4218
Admin Country: AU
Admin Phone: +45.36946676
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Admin
Tech Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Tech Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Tech City: Nobby Beach
Tech State/Province: Queensland
Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218
Tech Country: AU
Tech Phone: +45.36946676
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: 1009.globedns.com
Name Server: 1010.globedns.com
DNSSEC:Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
[link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-02-02T13:32:44+0000Z

Facebook GTOBPO Reviews.pdf (927.92 kb)

Facebook GTOBPO.pdf (11.58 mb)

GTOBPO_ Profile _ LinkedIn.pdf (1.11 mb)

Google plus Ashwani Kumar.pdf (173.23 kb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to the offers found at gtobpo.com removed as they are returning already error 404 - not found.

 

Presumptive scammer Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd - josoftech.com

Josoft Technologies Pvt. LtdJosoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd is bragging with an ISO 9001:2008 certification and proving in their offers that they are breaking the ISO 9001 rules and acting like each other scammer too.

An ISO certification says nothing about the quality of their products and services. An ISO certification is only documenting that a company is documenting their internal process flow that each case can get easily traced.

What is not ISO conform from their site:

  • Try to sell using spam emails
    I have gotten yesterday and E-Mail with the campaign offers from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.
    I have never subscribed to receive emails from them. For this the E-Mail is nothing else then SPAM.

  • If a customer has to pay before he gets a demonstration
    Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. has very well documented in their offer found at the attached pdf document jpeg to doc pdf.pdf that the call center has to pay the business fee “2. The legal agreement process begins immediately after your fee amount has been deposited, and the agreement is couriered out to you for your signature.” before the center knows what it get “3. The demonstration and training package are sent to you within 24 hours after your fee amount has been deposited.
    This is braking all international business rules, because a demonstration has to be FREE OF CHARGE. They like to sell something and for this they cannot make money with a demonstration, Only very stupid people will accept such a rule.

  • A certificate of satisfaction has to be signed before you are starting the work
    In such a case a certificate of satisfaction about the training can only get signed if the work and the quality of the provided images does not differ to this which are provided during the training. A certificate of satisfaction for the project can only get issued after the contract got fulfilled from both parties.
    For the case that they are really ISO certified, the certification has even not the value of the paper on which it got printed!!!

 

Why are the offers from Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. not more than only SCAM:

 

  • With their offered processes and the requested business fee they are certifying that they have no contract with their client and for this they are not able to give you any guarantees that you’ll get the project and that you’ll get paid.

  • Scammers want to make it harder for the police by using a graphics or a false profile pictures. They do not want to provide a manhunt image by themselves.

  • Scammer are using privacy protection services for hiding the data in their domain registration

  • Each work, where you have to pay to get it is nothing more than SCAM
    The way how they are breaking the ISO certification standards and international business rules shows that they are not trustful. Even if a broker likes to take money from both sites is an absolutely no go! In the case of a dispute he is working for this party, which is paying the higher sum. That disqualifies any business person from being trustful.

  • That you need to pay for the work before you even know how it confirms the SCAM too.

  • That you need to give a certificate of satisfaction before you know that the work does not differ from the training is the next SCAM.

  • Take a look at the article about Scamwarning: Book Typing, Proof Reading, All types of Form Filling, HTML Tagging. There you’ll find the description why you’ll not get paid according their accuracy protocol. They have described it in their offer jpeg to doc pdf.pdf by themselves. It is a common way to get a high accuracy by giving the same work to many people and check the results. The problem is only that this way is very expensive for the client and the client will not pay the sum for the work. The client is interested in saving money by going offshore.

  • At their blog they are promising “Our processes are designed to achieve 100% accuracy, and to deliver every project on time and within the budget parameters of the project.” You know now the way how they are reaching 100% accuracy and the way how they are keeping their budget. With OCR reading is only a accuracy of 98% possible.

  • In Europe and USA the documents are getting scanned and stored as binary documents in a database. Each scan is getting tags that it can easily found again. These tags have the same function like the tag cloud known from the blogs. The only difference is that the document itself gets linked to the customer, supplier, commercial case records which are involved to retrieve the original document. To this system you’ll not get an access because of the security reasons and law for data protection in the “rich” countries.

  • By taking a look at the project 5 PC Health Insurance project.pdf and 10 PC Health Insurance project.pdf is the same law situation. The companies in Europe and USA are even not allowed by law to provide you with such a kind data. The video of the Form Filling Offline Data Entry Typing Project shows that the image is written in an OCR character set. There are OCR readers for less than $1000 and software for less than $500 on the market available, which are able to convert such images into text with a accuracy of 98% and faster than you can type. Why client shall pay you for manual work in such a case?

  • Online Image Captcha.pdf
    Such captchas as they have provided by the screenshot are normally generated with a font set and converted into a graphic before saving them. It does not make any sense to type in the captcha, where the result is already known by generating them.

 

Additional we find at http://www.consumercomplaints.co/gto-bpo-fake-employees/ 2 complaints about their business:

September 27, 2014:
they say they have the project but in actual they don't have it. Ghanshyam, Santosh, Varun all these people are unfaithful,
they do not know what they need to do, don't know their job and irresponsible
March 6, 2015:
GTO BPO/JOSOFT is a fake company. they say that they have the project. after taking the money they don't provide. totally fake guys. I got cheated with 4 Lacs

Their address written on their website:
1-B Nanak Arcade 85-A Hind Nagar L.D.A Colony, Opposite Shivalik School, Lucknow-226012 U.P. (INDIA)
Phone: +91 90-26209005

My opinion: If you take all this facts and the complaints together, then the result will be that Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. is nothing else then a scammer and the ISO certification is a fake.

Spam E-mail from josoftech.com:

Von: farzan haider <sales@josoftech.com>
an: rudolffaix@gmail.com
Datum: 22. April 2015 um 13:25
Betreff: !! BPO BUSINESS !! PROJECT DETAILS !! (Josoftech)
: Diese Nachricht ist vor allem aufgrund der an der Konversation beteiligten Personen wichtig.
Welcome to Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. 

Dear Customer,

We thank you for choosing Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

We take pleasure in introducing ourselves as Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd. An ISO Certified Company had it beginnings in 2008 when Global Technology & Outsourcing was formed. The company has grown in size and capability, and in late 2013 the company name was changed to Josoft Technologies Pvt Ltd. We are offering Multiple Data Entry Projects in different sectors like, Banking, Telecom, Insurance, Government undertakings, and are also dealing in Inbound Call centers and Outbound Call centers, B2BB2CLead Generations & TelemarketingMedical & Business transactions. Term and conditions apply.

We request you to kindly find the enclosed attachments to get more insight about our start up projects in Pdf file format and click the links appended below to watch the videos for a better operational understanding with regards to these three projects. 

 

 1., Image to MS word Projects: – Offline data typing projects requiring a minimum of (1 PC). 

         (URL for JPEG to doc video)         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzR7ObxAHCE

 

2., Online Data Entry: - Online data entry work in online portal requiring a minimum of (3 PCs).

        (URL for online Captcha Video)      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Q4aTAgAI0      


3., Health Insurance Projects: - Form-filing projects in provided software requiring a minimum of (5           PCs).   

      (URL for Health insurance Projects)       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB588TkOnYw

 

It shall be our endeavor as always, to provide you a truly satisfying service.

And many more projects available you can visit: www.gtobpo.com  &  www.josoftech.com

Should you face any difficulty in understanding the requirements, please do not hesitate to contact our team, who are always eagerly looking forward to assist / guide you. If you have any suggestions on how we could improve our services further, please write to us at info@josoftech.com pr call our 24-hour IVR +91-9026209005   Customer contact center at  and we will be delighted to hear from you

Warm regards

Ankita singh
sales executive
(Josoft Technologies Pvt. Ltd.)

 

Skype ID :-josoft.technologies9 Phones:- +91-7897086666 Toll free:-  +91-9026209005  Off:  +91 0522 4069893    Email:  info@josoftech.com     Web: http://www.josoftech.com

Domain registration data of josoftech.com:

Domain Name: JOSOFTECH.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1767014904_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
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Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
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Registrar IANA ID: 303
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited (http://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited)
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Admin
Registrant Organization: Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16 Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City: Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province: Queensland
Registrant Postal Code: QLD 4218
Registrant Country: AU
Registrant Phone: +45.36946676
Registrant Phone Ext:
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Tech City: Nobby Beach
Tech State/Province: Queensland
Tech Postal Code: QLD 4218
Tech Country: AU
Tech Phone: +45.36946676
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: contact@privacyprotect.org
Name Server: 1013.globedns.com
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DNSSEC:Unsigned
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http://wdprs.internic.net/
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For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

 

10 PC Health Insurance Project.pdf (73.48 kb)

5 PC Health Insurance project.pdf (75.13 kb)

jpeg to doc pdf.pdf (117.39 kb)

Online image Captcha.pdf (1.10 mb)

Josoft Technologies blogspot in.pdf (1.90 mb)

Facebook Josoft Technologies.pdf (5.01 mb)

GTO BPO - fake employees _ Consumer Complaints.pdf (631.75 kb)

LinkedIn Josoft Technologies Pvt.pdf (1.66 mb)

 

Call centers read the given scripts and conditions very carefully

As more closely I take a look in the offshore outsourcing business as more I come to the conclusion that either the offshore call center themselves should get deceived or it should help to cheat others.

I got the following email with attachments forwarded. For easier reading I have opened the documents and pasted their content into the email. The script shows how the customer is getting betrayed.

It is a game to make the called one afraid that he does not get his medication in the future. That is already a big fault in selling. That has nothing to do with a serious sale. It looks like the client has no chance to sell his products in a serious way to someone. For this purpose he need to use such criminal methods.

If you are looking at the from me read marked parts of the email, then you see that you get only paid if the lead is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies. All other medications are not getting paid.

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: diabetic LT
From: "Visionary Leads" <info@visionaryleads.com>
Date: 2/4/15 10:47 am
To: jorell@visionaryleads.com

OUTSOURCEDIABETIC SCRIPT.DOCX

Hi! Is (patient) available?

Hi (patient)! I'm calling from Health Source. I just want to let you know Mr./Mrs. (patient) that you may no longer be receiving your diabetic supplies in the mail and I just wanted to make sure that you will be getting your diabetes supplies on time.

Do you mind me asking the last time that you got your diabetic supplies in the mail?

Ok! I'm going to get you setup. I just have to verify some basic information.

-Verify the address:

Are you still located at _________?

Can I have you Date of Birth?

Also, can I have your primary health insurance?
(No Medicare Part B or Medicaid)
(Diabetics with Medicare accompanied with private insurance, Share private insurance with Pharma Rep)

Before I'm going to transfer you to the pharmacy specialist that's going to get you setup, I just want ask you if there are any issues with your health that I may be able to help with?

-(Site exaples-e.g. back pain, join pain, diabetic neuropathy etc.)

Because you are eligible to receive a new compounded pain cream at little to no cost to you. The pain cream is a much more effective option than normal medication.
Also, it will help get rid of any pain you may be having.

-Ask for the pain location (start with the most severely affected location)

Ok! Great. Just make sure you CLEARLY STATE that you are willing to switch suppliers to the pharmacy affiliate, so you can receive your mention supplies on time and on a regular basis. Just one second while I get the diabetic specialist on the line. She is going to verify your doctor and make sure you have the proper billing information for your insurance and then we will get that sent out for you immediately.

Please stay on the line okay?
----transfer call----
(WHEN TRANSFERRING A CALL ALWAYS PROVIDE THE DIABETIC’S PRIVATE INSURANCE TO PHARMA SPECIALIST)


DIABETIC LIVE TRANSFER GUIDELINES.DOCX
LIVE XFER DIRECTIONS:

It is important inform the patient they may need to switch suppliers. A Diabetic specialist will explain the detailed options after verifying Contact Info/ Insurance info / Dr. Info.
Specialists will accept introduction with either short or long form info.

  TO TRANSFER A CALL TO THE DIABETIC SPECIALIST: AGENT INTERFACE:
TRANSFER>Presets>MedCare Pharmacy>DIAL WITH CUSTOMER>LEAVE 3 WAY CALL

INTRODUCE THE PATIENT TO THE SPECIALIST AND LET THE AGENT KNOW WHICH PRODUCT THE PATIENT IS INTERESTED IN (EX: DIABETIC TESTING SUPPLIES, PAIN GEL, ETC).

IF YOU HAVE ASKED THE PATIENT FOR INSURANCE/DR INFO, THEN TELL THE SPECIALIST THE INFO YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY WITH THE PATIENT.
PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND LEAVE THE CONFERENCE QUIETLY.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE INTRODUCTION QUIETLY LEAVE THE CALL.
ANY NOISE DURING THE RECORDED ENROLLMENT PROCESS WILL VOID THE LEAD.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

HEALTH SOURCE

- Health Source represents Pharmacy affiliates. Our purpose is to supply quality Pharmacy services and products to the comfort and privacy of our patients homes at little or no cost to the patient.

- We are looking for patients who need diabetic testing supplies.

-We offer all meters/strips, medical supplies, Braces, and Compound Rx Medications shipped to the patients home on a regular basis at no cost to them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agent Notes:

- Remember only transfer when the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy.

- When a patient asks a question that you do not know, simply transfer the call and inform the patient "a diabetic specialist will better answer your question, If you would like I can transfer you now……(xfer to Pharmacy)".

- Engage patients in conversation that will stimulate a positive rapport without wasting time. Be efficient with your time and know when to hangup. Many patients will speak on and on with no intention of enrolling in our service……. Reports, Graphs, and Call-Data Metrics reflect a positive correlation between top producing agents to agents with the longest call time averages.
On average, the best agents spend more time on on each call because they stay close to the script, establish a rapport, all while speaking clearly and slowly.
      Ex: Confirm a street
address/dob/PolicyInfo/doctor/etc, Ask about the weather, mention a personal experience, discuss your health concerns, etc.. NEVER let a patient control a conversation. Stick to the point and get back to your script as quickly as possible.

- Remember only transfer if the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy located in sunny south Florida,

Sent from my iPhone

John Krawczyk
Visionary Leads
CMO
215-949-3636
www.visionaryleads.com
www.seomanagementconsultants.com
www.classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists)
www.diabeticdesk.com

I’ll suggest in this case making for your own security a recording of the transferred call. This is technical possible if your VoIP system is staying in the media path after the transfer. It uses a little bit more traffic but you have afterwards something what you can present to any fraud investing official.


The client is only paying per lead and it seems to be very hard to sell his products. Why else should he write already the fraud into the script?

 

If we take a look at the listed domains in the signature than we find out that:

  • seomanagementconsultants.com is registered at May 15, 2012, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • visionaryleads.com is registered at June 3, 2013, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) is a new domain, registered at September 30, 2014. This site is already registered to an address in India and has a corresponding bad reputation.
  • diabeticdesk.com is also a new domain, registered at November 23, 2014. This site is registered to an India address and has a very high risk.
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) and diabeticdesk.com are hosted at a server, which have one more high risk site on it: ropemediahouse.com
  • Interesting is in any case that ropemediahous.com and classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) have the same owner, who does even not know what is a street and a house number:
    classesanddegree.com: Rope Media Pvt Ltd, Gurgaon, 122001 Haryana, India, +91.9818555403
    ropemediahouse.com: Rope Media Private Limited, Vasant Kunj, 110070 New Delhi, +91.01244306053

If we take a look at the website www.diabeticdesk.com then we know why only leads for diabetic measurement products are getting paid. There is no other product offered then diabetic measurements. Drugs are not offered. For this the necessary drugs will not get shipped. It would be better to get a campaign from or for a drugstore. In such a case the call center will not cheat some people.

 

The name John Krawczyk sounds and seems to be a Polish name. In combination with the facts above I remember an old Austrian proverb: “Come and visit Poland - Your car is already there.”

It seems for me that there is an organized fraud happening. It can be possible too, that John Krawczyk is getting used from the scammer from India.

 

Registration information of the used Domains:

Domain Name: SEOMANAGEMENTCONSULTANTS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1720656451_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-16T10:52:36Z
Creation Date: 2012-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: (215) 609-0122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: (215) 543-5736
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: (215) 609-0122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: (215) 543-5736
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: (215) 609-0122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: (215) 543-5736
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-05T21:00:00Z
Domain Name: VISIONARYLEADS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1805955020_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-06-04 07:52:36
Creation Date: 2013-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: SEO
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 2156090122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: SEO
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 2156090122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: SEO
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: 2156090122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-07-31T19:00:00Z
Domain Name: CLASSESANDDEGREE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1878271185_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Creation Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Registrant Street: Gurgaon
Registrant City: Gurgaon
Registrant State/Province: Haryana
Registrant Postal Code: 122001
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9818555403
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Admin Street: Gurgaon
Admin City: Gurgaon
Admin State/Province: Haryana
Admin Postal Code: 122001
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9818555403
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Tech Street: Gurgaon
Tech City: Gurgaon
Tech State/Province: Haryana
Tech Postal Code: 122001
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9818555403
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: DIABETICDESK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1886767790_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Registrant City: Lucknow
Registrant State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 226010
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9161867901
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Admin City: Lucknow
Admin State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 226010
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9161867901
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Tech City: Lucknow
Tech State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 226010
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9161867901
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM this domain is only at the same Server.
Registry Domain ID: 1860052127_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Creation Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Registrant Street: Vasant Kunj
Registrant Street: Vasant Kun
Registrant City: New Delhi
Registrant State/Province: Delhi
Registrant Postal Code: 110070
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.01244306053
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Admin Street: Vasant Kunj
Admin Street: Vasant Kun
Admin City: New Delhi
Admin State/Province: Delhi
Admin Postal Code: 110070
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.01244306053
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Tech Street: Vasant Kunj
Tech Street: Vasant Kun
Tech City: New Delhi
Tech State/Province: Delhi
Tech Postal Code: 110070
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.01244306053
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-11-17T14:00:00Z

 

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