Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

Everybody remembers the case of the Panama Papers where shell companies got created for keeping personal financial information private. While offshore business entities are often not illegal, reporters found that some of the Mossack Fonseca shell corporations were used for illegal purposes, including fraud, kleptocracy, tax evasion, and evading international sanctions. A similar kind of company like Mossack Fonseca seems to be A1 Company Services located in Finchley, London, UK. Shell companies can get easily identified by their address which they are using for their mail forwarding service.

One client from A1 Company Services, Leadco Limited, has sent me the following message from using the contact form from my website:

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2016 23:47
An: rudolf.faix@wwpa.com
Betreff: WWPA e-mail - Pension review leads LOA

We are looking for an out bound call centre for pension lead gen or appointement setting is this something you can provide us with?

Author information

Name: Leon thomas
E-mail: Leon@leadcoltd.co.uk
IP address: 135.196.188.253
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 5.1.1; SM-G928T Build/LMY47X) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/50.0.2661.89 Mobile Safari/537.36

The IP address 135.196.188.253 is really from the UK, but at the Internet are many different proxy services available and an UK domain proves nothing. A view at the homepage from leadcoltd.co.uk returned the joke "We are the leading Marketing Brokers", because the domain and the company is less than 2 months old. Additional is the start-up company LeadCo Limited dreaming from hot ice with their requirements where the call center has to Supply their own data and get Paid per lead. With other words the "Leading Marketing Broker" is thinking that others are investing for him that he can make big money. At the payment time the center has to discuss about the quality of the leads. Already these facts are showing that LeadCo Limited has no idea about the business but the owner from the company seems to have enough reasons to hide his real name and his real location.

LEADCO Limited is registered at the UK Companies House:
Company number: 10133813
Address: 1st Floor 2 Woodberry Grove, Finchley, London, England, N12 0DR
Incorporated on 19 April 2016
Capital: £100

Director: MORRIS, Darren, born July 1980, Nationality British

People who have invested into a limited company (the shareholders) are only responsible for any company debts up-to the amount that they have invested and no more. The capital from the company LEADCO Limited is £100. That means if the debts from the company are higher than the £100 and the company has not enough funds for paying their debts they are bankrupt. In this case the creditors are not getting more in sum than £100, independent how high the debts from such a company are.

A Google search for the address "2 Woodberry Grove, Finchley, London, England, N12 0DR" returned 58,700 results. This count of results seems to be too high for a simple company address. It seems that at this place is something running wrong. One of the search results is 15,826 Companies in N12 0DR, Woodberry Grove, London - Endole and you'll find there really more than 15,000 companies listed with their net worth value and their cash in bank.

Google recognizes the search for an address and provides in such a case in the search results Google Maps, Google Earth and Streetview.

Google Streetview shows us only the Finchley Christian Spiritualist Church. Such a big house where 15,826 companies can have their office inside is simple missing. The Finchley Christian Spiritualist Church has house number 4:

The satellite picture from Google Earth shows us that the house with the address 2 Woodberry Grove, Finchley, London, England, N12 0DR is hiding behind the church and cannot get seen from the street:

Don't let yourself get fooled and think that the big building with the caption Homebase - London North Finchley could be the searched address. This building has the address 679 High Rd, North Finchley, London, N12 0DA and is a Warehouse-like chain for home improvement, DIY and garden equipment, plus furniture. Even this building would be to small for having more than 15,000 companies inside.

The answer is very simple and can get found in the search results for the address at Google. At the same address is working the company A1 Company Services - UK Company Formations. Such services are registering companies and are even providing directors, nominee and secretarial services for a small amount. The business term for such a company is shell company.

The domain registration data from leadcoltd.co.uk:

Domain name:
leadcoltd.co.uk

Registrant:
LEADCO LIMITED

Registrant type:
Other UK Entity (e.g. clubs, associations, many universities)

Registrant's address:
1st Floor 2 Woodberry Grove,
London
London
N12 0DR
United Kingdom

Data validation:
Nominet was able to match the registrant's name and address against a 3rd party data source on 19-Apr-2016

Registrar:
Heart Internet Ltd t/a Heart Internet [Tag = HEARTINTERNET]
URL: http://www.heartinternet.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 19-Apr-2016
Expiry date: 19-Apr-2017
Last updated: 19-May-2016

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
bob.ns.cloudflare.com
michelle.ns.cloudflare.com

WHOIS lookup made at 06:01:08 10-Jun-2016

In my previous article Scammer: Ayush Baruwal - Cybersygns Network Private Limited - Genuine Auto Spares - Edata Vendors I have described the company construction from the scammer Ayush Baruwal and his partner in crime Rakesh Shendge Dwarkanath.

Such a construction where the same person is on the one site the seller (Cybersygns Network Private Limited) and the buyer (client: Genuine Auto Spares) makes only sense if the person is a part of an illegal money laundering system or a scammer which likes to earn from his victims.

If Ayush Baruwal would have enough money where it makes some sense to run a money laundering system for himself he would not try to offer his scams to an industry which got already destroyed by scammers and the greediness of the call center owners. He even cannot be a part for any other money laundering process because his own construction, which shows already his commercial inability, would be a high risk for the other team members.

If we take a look at the Alexa global traffic ranking from the sites genuineautospares.com, bijayainc.com and edatavendors.com then we see that not one of the sites is generating any income for the scammer Ayush Baruwal. Only the site genuineautospares.com seems to have around one visitor every 3 months.

The above Alexa rankings are showing that no other sites are linking to the scammer sites and the sites are not generating any traffic. In summary are all the three sites nothing else than a economic write-off.

The scammer Ayush Baruwal proves in his own LinkedIn posting that he has no idea who his customers from Genuine Auto Spares are. Second hand car parts are normally only used from private people and unbranded small car service stations. The small car service stations are knowing which parts they need and where to get them. Private people, which are searching for second hand spare parts are by themselves are car service technicians by themselves or have some car service technicians as friend which helps them. The egghead Ayush Baruwal thinks that he need to put only some agents in front of a computer for giving simple technical support to such people. He even does not know that at the technical support line from the branded distributors are getting handled by master technicians and not from simple call center agents.

With the entry phrase "... the post that was posted against me by @Larry Halili and  now i cannot find the post anywhere" in his LinkedIn Pulse posting likes Ayush Baruwal to connote that the posting "Help us to spread the news! Our Company was robbed by this Scammer Company from Banglore India" got already removed, but the bitter truth for him is only that he seems to be too stupid to use the web browser at LinkedIn and to find his own comments again or he has been drunk and did not know what he is doing.

He lies already with the sentence "Our Clients company Genuine Auto Spares ..." because the Better Business Bureau lists Ayush Baruwal as company owner. How can he be his own client?

Everybody would believe him the sentence "even before I met these Guys I was under the possession of a property to run and operate my own centre", because he would send bills by himself to himself and pay it by taking out the money from the left pocket and put it into the right pocket. The whole scam system would not work in such a case.

The best joke I have read is: "Apart $23,913 USD claimed as Setup fee for Tech/ Chat Support its not what you call this upfront fee". Where is the difference between a setup fee and any other upfront fee? It is only another name for a fee invented by the scammer Ayush Baruwal, which has been playing client, broker and consultant in one person!

Summary: As the profile from the scammer Ayush Baruwal is already full of discrepancies and his statements full of lies can he, his companies, his shell companies and his partners can never be serious and trustful business partners.

If I would take some money to removing some entries from my blog, than I would not be better than the scammer. Making money on this way would lead with the time to scam others or into blackmailing of innocent small business owners. That is not my idea for making money. Before I'll go down to this level I would prefer to be a beggar.

Anyway even such an offer shows that this one, which makes the offer, does not understand the nature and structure of the Internet. In the Internet are a lot of services available which like to archive the content of the web and the authors from websites have no influence on it. Examples are Googles Web Cache, WayBack Machine, etc. It is nearly impossible to remove some content from the Internet as the content gets distributed viral. To get something removed from Google you need to get a court order and in this case it will only get removed from the search result in that country from where the court order is coming from. Google is not the only search engine on the web.

If you get under these conditions an invitation for an offer from a company, which seems to be an Internet service provider and is offering at their website "Professional Web Designing", "SEO Expert Solution", "Online Store in no time", dedicated servers and more, for removing content from your own site under the title "Managing Web Reputation", than you think first about a bad joke, a faked sender or some other fraud instead of a real business. How someone can handle your online reputation if he does not know the basics of the Internet?

Under the above condition I got the following invitation for an offer from Chandra Gupta (19 contacts at LinkedIn) - kreationnext.com (LinkedIn profile [14 contacts], Facebook page [83 likes]) by using my web contact form:

Hello

This is Chandra Gupta from Kreation Next. We have a few clients who would like to remove their complaints from your website and wants us to manage their web reputation. Before getting them into our contract, we would like a quotation from your end for removal of each link / topic from your website, and also a
contact person/number where we can contact you on it.

Also, if possible please provide quotation on bulk & single link basis. The time required for removal of a link/multiple links (say 50 or more links).

Awaiting your reply.
Thanks in advance

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Author information

Name: Chandra Gupta
E-mail: chandragupta@kreationnext.com
IP address: 122.163.17.45
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

The only verified information in a web contact form is the ip address from the sender and the user-agent (the browser used from the user) because that information gets resolved from the web server. All other information are entered from the user itself. the site iplocation.net provides the following geolocation data for the ip address 122.163.17.45:

Geolocation data from IP2Location (Product: DB4 updated on 1/2/2016)

IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
122.163.17.45	India	Delhi	Delhi	Abts Delhi

Google Map for Delhi, Delhi, India (New window)

 

Geolocation data from EurekAPI (Product: Pro On-demand API)

IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
122.163.17.45	India	West Bengal	Kolkata	Airtel Broadband
	Continent	Latitude	Longitude	Organization
	Asia	22.5697	88.3697	Airtel Broadband

Google Map for Kolkata, West Bengal, India (New window)

 

Geolocation data from DB-IP (Product: Full updated on 1/3/2015)

IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
122.163.17.45	IN	Delhi	New Delhi (okhla Phase Iii)	Bharti
	Time Zone	Latitude	Longitude	Organization
	Asia/kolkata	28.5492	77.2687	ABTS DELHI

Google Map for New Delhi (Okhla Phase III), Delhi, IN (New window)

 

Geolocation data from ipinfo.io (On-demand API)

IP Address	Country	Region	City	Postal Code
122.163.17.45	IN	West Bengal	Kolkata	700001
ISP		Hostname		Organization
AS24560 Bharti Airtel Ltd., Telemedia Services		No Hostname		ABTS DELHI,

 

Geolocation data from MaxMind (Product: GeoLiteCity updated on 1/6/2015)

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IP Address	Country	Region	City	Postal Code	Area Code
122.163.17.45	India	28	Kolkata	700001

As the provided email address is from his domain and the name has been fitting to the domain registry data I have answered the request without offering something. To get an answer back I have invented the wrong information that his company is registered in Dehli and his posting has been done from Kolkata:

Hello Chandra Gupta

 

I think by reading of the attached mail more on a bad joke than a real offer. The IP address is from Kolkata and your company is registered in Dehli - a distance of 2 hours by airplane.

 

The message got entered at my website at January 20, 2016 09:36am (GMT+1) into the mail form with the following informations:

Author information

Name: Chandra Gupta
E-mail: chandragupta@kreationnext.com
IP address: 122.163.17.45
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

As expected I got a reply from Chandra Gupta as expected with a confirmation that he has sent the offer request, but the request is not from a real business man,which likes to make some business - it is more the email from someone which did not get what he has expected in his hope:

Von: Chandra Gupta [chandragupta@kreationnext.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Januar 2016 19:25
An: Rudolf Faix
Cc: mailbackup@kreationnext.com
Betreff: Re: AW: CC Scam e-mail - Qoutation for removal of complaints

 

Hello
Mr. Rudolf Faix,

I think you have got confused somewhere. I mailed you from kolkata, that's true, and also we are from kolkata.

Please refer to the following links for more details:
https://secure.kreationnext.com/about-us/contact-us.html
https://maps.google.co.in/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=kreation+next&fb=1&gl=in&hq=kreation+next&hnear=0x39f882db4908f667:0x43e330
e68f6c2cbc,Kolkata,+West+Bengal&cid=0,0,12882392238866733486&t=m&ll=22.594063,88.370762
&spn=0.009787,0.021136&iwloc=A&source=embed
https://secure.kreationnext.com/iso/verify-iso.html

There are a few things I need to clear about:
1. It doesn't take me a two hours journey to reach my office
2. We are based at kolkata
3. I make jokes with friends and family. And I don't make friends at business or make any joke (good or bad) at business.
4. The research you made on our company is a massive failure.
5. Your spellings are disastrous on the mail.

Finally, If you are interested to talk business please send me a quotation rather than pointing out lame excuses to avoid work.

Regards,

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Subject: Re: AW: CC Scam e-mail - Qoutation for removal of complaints
To: Rudolf Faix <rudolf.faix@wwpa.com>
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My answer to the above email is that I'm not commercial available and my opinions are not for sale. Maybe it is hard to believe for some people without any beliefs as some are thinking that everything is commercial available and the big question is only for which price. I don't belong to this kind of people. I don't like to let me pull down to the same level like scammers. I like to be able to look into the mirror without shame.

Why shall I remove a scammer from my blog? Why shall I make it easier for a scammer to continue with his sham business? Why shall I try to make the online reputation work from Chandra Gupta for a scammer easier? As we are here in real life and not in the kindergarten I see no reason to help some scammers as long as they don't change their own life by coming honest. Small scammers don't have the money for hiring someone to improve their online reputation and these scammers which have enough money for this purpose have gotten it from cheating their hard working victims and not from their own hard work. Would it be fair for a first time scammer, which has no money for getting removed, to prefer the serial and organized scammers only for the reason that they have been successful and are paying some money? That would be like carrying water to the sea for making the sea less salty.

Domain registration data from kreationnext.com:

Domain Name: KREATIONNEXT.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1627347787_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2016-01-14T07:51:25Z
Creation Date: 2010-11-26T01:56:07Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-11-26T01:56:07Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
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Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Chandra Gupta
Registrant Organization: Kreation Next
Registrant Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Registrant Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Registrant City: kolkata
Registrant State/Province: West Bengal
Registrant Postal Code: 700006
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +91.9830339013
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: admin@kreationnext.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Chandra Gupta
Admin Organization: Kreation Next
Admin Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Admin Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Admin City: kolkata
Admin State/Province: West Bengal
Admin Postal Code: 700006
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +91.9830339013
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: admin@kreationnext.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Chandra Gupta
Tech Organization: Kreation Next
Tech Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Tech Street: 76/2A Bidhan Sarani, Suite No. D
Tech City: kolkata
Tech State/Province: West Bengal
Tech Postal Code: 700006
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +91.9830339013
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: admin@kreationnext.com
Name Server: NS1.KREATIONNEXT.COM
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DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-21T23:00:00Z <<<

How much the owner of the site understands from SEO and Internet marketing gets shown at his own site. The Alexa ranking from kreationnext.com shows not really impressing values after the site has been 5 years and 56 Days online. The same quality can expected from his new service "Online Reputation Management" too:

The Alexa daily pageviews are interesting too:

What can you expect more from people, which are using phrases like "Finally, If you are interested to talk business please send me a quotation rather than pointing out lame excuses to avoid work.". Only stupid people are calling pressing a simple "unpublish" or "delete" button "work"! That Chandra Gupta has not invented the work by himself gets shown on his own website and his social networks entries. He likes to earn money only from the work of others.

Update January 24, 2016: Chandra Gupta has submitted an email to me and asked for publishing it as add-on to this article. Here is his email:

Hello
Mr. Rudolf Faix,

I found your article on me and my company from your website. I have to agree you are a good writer and your spellings have improved a lot. Still you are missing the spelling of the city "Delhi" & "too"(its not 'Dehli', and you pronounce it as 'Dilli').

I thank you for showing interest in me and my company. I haven't seen a stranger in my entire life who has taken such interest and given so much time and effort to research on my profile and background. I should have given you a hug if you were near.

Some of my clients requested for removal of negative links/comments from other websites. Since I am not in the business of SEO or Reputation Management, I asked them to hold the offer while I complete the cost analysis. Before I get them in a contract I wanted to make sure that I can do it and provide them the best price for their request. As such I requested for a quotation from your side as well as other websites owners & staff. I am not at all interested in what business they do or who are they in their personal life. It takes too much effort and time to do so. And after working(Well by work I include my studies too) for 16 hours a day and 365 days a year, I don't get that much energy to do so.

A simple and small event of "request for a quotation for removal of links from your website" can lead to so much issue that you would take me under the microscope and start making wrong assumptions and portray a different image to the world. I didn't think that such a minute little thing can turn out to be an iceberg, that you will start researching on my website and me and turn me out into a parasite.

Well let me tell you what I exactly do:
1. I sell and configure dedicated servers, VPS servers, proxy servers, email gateways, system monitoring system, etc so that it can perform at an optimum level, safely without any unauthorized access attempts from hackers and spammers.
2. Design customized desktop applications and web applications for my customers.

And this is what I do all by myself with a lot of assistance from Google search. I have a small family and I am satisfied with my small earnings and a happy family.

And it takes a lot of hard work and research to take care of each and every minute detail. And I am really sorry to my business as I haven't taken good care of my website and SEO. I have just completed my website a few days back, but still a few tweaks are pending. Well about SEO, I am not an expert. I need to learn on it a bit before I proceed.

I am still a black dot on a black board and I frankly am not such an important guy that you need to spend so much of your valuable time on me and my life. Though its a wrongly assumed small biography, but still, I haven't grown that big yet.

Though I checked your blog too, it is mostly based on scammers and scams, and some info about some good campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing. I think you are a part of the Deep Blue Marketing Team though (Its only my personal view). And you have been blogging for about a year now on the wwpa.com( check your last post). As I assumed your work, you are good with seo and your domain is 20 years old. Don't you think you should be within the top 1000 in alexa, with so much of seo experience?

You have spent so much time and effort on writing blogs on spammers, I fear that you may turn out to be a spammer in future if not already. You know, "We are what we do".

Keep yourself safe and happy.

I am a bit rude sometimes, sorry if I have hurt you in anyway.

Finally, a request though, you may or may not do, its your choice. Add this mail to your blog too and don't forget to comment. And also if possible send me an email when done with the link so that I can check it out.

The risk that I'm start to scam is very low, because I'm not active in business. That means that I'm not offering or selling something. I have been hard working in business for more than 35 years and everything comes one time an end. Now I enjoy my life and take it how it comes.

As I have started in the late 70^ths to work in the IT industry in Austria I made the experience that everybody helped each other without any restrictions and without asking for something. It has been a simple helping each other. I have continued this kind of working together during all my active time.

Two years ago I have relocated from Austria to the Philippines. Here I found a friend, which needed to close his call center for the reason of getting scammed. For this reason I have taken a look into the offshore outsourcing industry again and found that nearly all the offers are nothing else than scam. I started December 2014 by commenting and writing against the scammers found at the social networks. Since December 2014 I have found only three campaign brokers, which are offering in a serious way campaigns. The three companies are Kathy Sisk Enterprises (USA), Ian Haines Consulting (UK) and Deep Blue Marketing (DBM) - Lars Christiansen (Denmark, Spain, USA, Dominican Republic). All three are offering campaigns without any upfront payments. They are getting paid from the client for searching call centers which are able to fulfill the requirements of the client and not for centers which are able to pay for getting work. That is that what I understand in making a serious business. I'm publishing available campaigns as soon as I get updates from these companies. I'm publishing the campaign offers for free of charge as they help me to show that not all the offers found in the social networks are scam and how real offshore outsourcing business is working.

That I'm independent from the named campaign brokers gets already shown that DBM is the exclusive broker for the Caribbean Cruise Line campaign. That is a real campaign with very tight margins and it is hard for the centers to make some earnings with this campaign. I'm not promoting this campaign. I have even written some negative articles about this campaign. These articles are getting found at:

• September 7, 2015: The Marketing Source - Robbie Middleton - sent a bad joke instead of a proof
• September 5, 2015: FTC Statement Virtual Voice Technology - CallAssistant - from Vance Vogel
• September 3, 2015: Slavery offer: CCL VVT none Voice or Semi-Voice campaign - The Marketing Source
• September 1, 2015: Is the use of the Avatar technology in the U.S. illegal (Robocalls)?
• March 22, 2015: Slavery offer: Virtual Voice Technologies (VVT) Cruise campaign
• February 1, 2015: Not really a new and good idea - playing prerecorded messages

If you are working for a company you will not have the chance to write negative about a customer of this company. At least you would not long working after such an article for this company.

Don't worry I have been thinking if there is a possibility to monetize my blogs. By showing banner ads will nobody click on it. The most people are already using AdBlocker (I'm using an AdBlocker too). I have been even thinking about placing a donate button on my site, but what will I do if a scammer will donate something and I need to write later on an article about this scammer? I think it is better to let it like it is and stay independent.

About the writing of the capital from India I can say only that in the early 70^ths has been written in the Austrian schoolbooks the name as Dehli and that is the way how the city gets pronounced in the German speaking countries. I'm not searching Google for the correct writing of city names. Even in the German version of Wikipedia is written about Delhi/Delhi:

Daneben existiert die Variante Dehlī [ˈd̪eːhlːi], die ursprünglich vor allem von den Muslimen benutzt wurde. Der Name leitet sich vermutlich vom alten Hindustani-Wort dil für „Hügel“ ab.

Translated to English is it:

In addition the variant Dehli [ˈd̪eːhlːi] exists, which was originally used mainly by Muslims. The name properly derives from the ancient Hindustani-word dil for "hill".

I think that there are much bigger problems found in the offshore outsourcing industry than the correct writing of the name from the capital of India where even two versions are existing or to discuss about possible type mismatches.

It is hardly possible to hurt me. We have in German language a proverb: "Wer austeilen kann muss auch einstecken können", translated to English has it the meaning of "Who could kick and punch must be able to stand answers in return".

Update November 21, 2015: Maybe it is not clear enough in the original article, but it does not matter if the scammer is paying the centers or not in this case. The scam starts by generating the calls for the “Tech support”:

• Offered installation calls for Mcafee, Norton, MS Office, Printer setup
  A customer, which buys a product and which is not working on his site, likes to get his money back. For this reason he will complain the seller or the hotline from the manufacturer of the product and will not call someone where he has even to spend more money than he has spent already. This is called guarantee for a product. The producer or seller of the product needs to get the chance to solve the problem before he has to give the money back to the customer. That is consumer law and for this reason are the offers of the “installation calls” nothing else than scam. Nobody will pay for something where he has a right to get it for free.
  
  
• Blue screen calls
  For the case a blue screen happens is there nowhere shown a phone number to call. Real blue screen cases are happening during system malfunctions based on some hardware or memory defects, failures of drivers or by installing some suspicious software. A blue screen cannot get solved from remote and by using some remote desktop programs because these programs are not functioning during the time a blue screen happens. As you need to try to reproduce the problem will it be hard job to do such work from remote with a normal and technical not interested user on the other end.
  
  
• Pop up calls
  If the pop-up is more than a simple promotion the offer is a scam. Even UK Financial Fraud Action is warning to give untrusted people remote access to their computer. Everybody knows how many people are using pop-up blocker and adblocker. The advertising industry is already crying about percentage of people can get reached. How will in this case a scammer generate enough calls which he likes to sell?

In any case call centers should be aware that participating in a fraud system is a criminal action and gets prosecuted. If you buy calls which are getting generated by malware you’ll be in the first line of investigation because of the money flow from the victim to you. Maybe the real criminal disappears in the meantime and you are the only remaining one which gets prosecuted. If the seller can get found is not so bad for you because in this case you’ll get prosecuted only for the dubious purchase but it can come worse too as everybody likes to protect himself in front of law.

The above facts cannot get discussed away. On the other site G. P. Singh tries to use the revenge postings from other scammers to use against me instead of trying to explain me where I’m wrong in my understanding his offer. The same way all other scammers are acting too. The problem is only that there are no evidences and the postings did not get proved from anyone. Richa Softwaresolution has even tried to fake an email from me but could even not provide mailheaders for it. This try can get found in my article Fake emails which seems to be from Rudolf Faix - rudolffaix@gmail.com - rudolf.faix@wwpa.com. Such an email gets shown at the screenshot below:

Original arcticle:

At the LinkedIn profile from G. P. Singh gets shown how a formerly successful businessman has changed to be now a scammer. The statement from G. P. Singh in answer to a comment shows already the scam: "There are no details to send. Decice what you want, place an order, prepay and we deliver the calls. Simple!".

Maybe the scammer does not know that Microsoft, Symantec (Norton), Intel (McAffee) and the manufacturers like Canon, HP, Dell, etc. have their own support hotline where their customers can call free of charge and get support without paying for it. The calls to these support hotlines are even used for improving their products. But it seems that the scammer G. P. Singh has already lost his ability to think and is only interested in getting money for nothing.

For the case that a center owner pays for getting such a kind of calls and he gets really some calls then these calls are getting generated by malware and fake websites. That is a crime which gets prosecuted. In such a case the center owner needs to think how he gets paid for his fraud service. The money flow will make the center owner to a scammer and bring him into the first line of investigation. Here are some examples about tech support scam, which got already prosecuted:

• FTC, Pennsylvania and Connecticut Sue Tech Support Scammers That Took More Than $17 Million From Consumers
• Federal Court Orders Tech Support Scammers to Pay More Than $5.1 Million
• Operators of Alleged Tech Support Scam Settle FTC Charges, Will Surrender Money and Property
• FTC Testifies on Efforts to Stop Illegal Tech Support Scams Before Senate Special Committee on Aging

Here is a screenshot from the scam offer:

Maybe the scammer G. P. Singh needs some money for disappearing because the Stock Fraud Attorney Fitapelli | Kurta is actually searching for more victims of a fraud done by Zen Financial Services and Jonathan Bao:

Broker Complaints: Zen Financial Services and Jonathan Bao

The securities and investment fraud law firm, Fitapelli Kurta, is interested in speaking to investors who have lost money investing with Zen Financial or Jonathan Bao.

Zen Financial Services is an independent financial planning and investment firm based out of in Alhambra, California. Zen Financial Services was established in 2011 by Jonathan Bao. Zen Financial Services specializes in retirement plans, wealth management to high net worth individuals, and small businesses. Zen Financial Services offers investments in common stock, mutual funds, annuities, Roth IRAs, Traditional IRAs, and 401k’s. Zen Financial Services is a small firm, employing approximately one to four people. Zen Financial Services’ main office is located at 205 South Chapel Avenue, Alhambra, CA 91801. Zen Financial Services is not a FINRA member firm and is not registered with the SEC.

Zen Financial Services’ founder and president, Jonathan Bao, has recommended the following securities to investors: ProShares Ultra VIX Short-Term Futures (UVXY) and Dendreon Corporation (DNDN). Jonathan Bao is also registered with Royal Alliance Associates.

These 2x ETFs are highly speculative investments which present a significant amount of risk to investors. These nontraditional ETFs trade on a daily basis, which means they should ideally be sold at the end of each day to accurately predict and maximize profit. The longer these ETFs are held on for, the harder they become to predict and the less likely an investor is to make any money.

If you or someone you know has lost money investing in nontraditional ETFs through Jonathan Bao or Zen Financial Services, Royal Alliance, or one of its other brokers, you may be entitled to full recovery of your losses. The attorneys at Fitapelli Kurta prosecute cases on behalf of investors like you who have lost money as a result of unsuitable investments recommended by firms like Zen Financial Services and Royal Alliance. These cases are taken on a contingency fee basis only, which means our firm will not receive any compensation whatsoever unless and until you recover money.

Cases are filed with the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) and will submit to arbitration. Fitapelli Kurta has filed hundreds of cases before FINRA and has recovered millions on behalf of investors who have fallen victim to broker misconduct. Do not delay. Call 877 – 238 – 4175 to speak directly to an attorney and further discuss the merits of your case.

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Update November 21, 2015 - A statement from Mr. G. P. Singh:

Also, ZenFinancial, has nothing to do with the 'Zen Financial Services' which you are referring to, so please remove this post, ASAP

Maybe he is right in this case, but it is his problem to use the same name of a fraud company. As Microsoft and the other companies are not publishing his phone numbers for their support services remains the question how the calls are generated. The offer includes "Blue Screen calls" and "Pop Up calls". As no phone number gets shown at a blue screen it will be very hard for a scammer to find any arguments why someone should call his number if there is no scareware or malware used for generating this kind of calls. Scareware and malware distribution is a crime!

Update November 21, 2015 - A personal message to me from a Facebook member:

I saw your post regarding Mr Singh. He has a lot of campaigns to offer. I am supposedly going to run his payday loan campaign but a supposed to be 1-2 minutes script to run by an agent he wanted the call to run for 15 minutes. Which is very impossible and the pay is $9 only per succesful transfer. Definitely all centers who gets campaigns from him lost. I have never seen an outbound campaign with a very short script to run on a call for 15 mins or more. I think too hes a scammer. You may check his zen blog page for diff campaigns

In each of the articles about the Caribbean Cruise Line (CCL) – Virtual Voice Technology (VVT) is getting found that the center is guilty by themselves if they are accepting the conditions from The Marketing Source. Business is a risk and not a sandpit where nothing can happen. Even in the email from Robbie Middleton is stated gets found that this campaign “is a VERY tough campaign with tight margins”.

The campaign gets offered as none voice campaign where the agent does not need to speak. That is nothing else than a misleading promotion, because if we take a look at the article “FTC Statement Virtual Voice Technology - CallAssistant, L.C. - submitted by The Marketing Source - Vance Vogel” then we can read that the agent is free in his choice to speak or playing prerecorded messages. The background of the FTC-rule is that it has to be a life agent to be available that the live agent has to speak with the called one if a recording is not available for answering a specific question. It will be seldom happen, but it can happen.

The statement that only Lars is offering the CCL campaign is not correct. Robbie Middleton has simple forgotten that he is offering the campaign at BPO Friends by himself too. Everybody can be sure that other companies have voice systems too, which are conform to the FTC rules.  TMS is not the only company, which has access to such a system. It is only used as an argument for their rip-off. US$ 200/week system costs + VoIP (up to $ 275) for 12 seats (24 connections) are nothing else than profiteering.

We have built for an Austrian satellite TV broadcaster a similar system with click to dial, manual selection of prerecordings and a few more features like play and win, live quiz, dating, shopping, etc. in a multi-language system (German, English, French, Spanish, Polnish), for € 1,450 (~US$ 1,615) including server hardware. This system has assigned 2,200 phone numbers, on this system are working 250 agents and a few full automated services like every 50th caller goes live into the studio, each 100th caller is winning a price, etc. at the same time.

It is not forbidden to make a bad deal. Everybody, who accepting a bad deal, is guilty by himself if he lose money in such a case. It is only from a company expected to recognize a good and a bad deal. If a company defends such a bad deal then such a company is in my opinion very suspect and there seems to be a reason why they are defending such a bad deal. Mostly is the reason that they are earning by themselves.

The construction of the included proof from the email shows more that it is a fake instead of a proof.  I think that CCL and TMS have enough experience in front of the law court collected to know how a proof has to look like. In this case the proof consists of pictures (one company header, and one picture for each “invoice” line), which seems to be from different sources. Such a construction is nowhere accepted as a proof for anything. All necessary parts for an official invoice are missing. It seems even to be a secret to whom the invoice got sent.

In a fair and transparent business is it usage that as soon as a customer likes to use his own or rented systems has the customer to pay the bill for it. How the customer makes his calculation in this case is the problem of the customer and not the problem of the service provider. Already the promotion of the campaign is misleading because there is written “The base rate is $ 2.25 per transfer with additional performance incentives based on quality” (BPO Friends - Robbie Middleton, .pdf (187.38 kb)). In such a case the rate cannot be lower than $ 2.25 for the >60 seconds transfer, but if we take a look at the document VVT CPD Explanation.docx (17.84 kb) we see that the base rate can be lower too.

The email from Robbie Middleton in reaction to my article "Slavery offer: CCL VVT none Voice or Semi-Voice campaign - The Marketing Source - Vance Vogel":

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Robbie Middleton <rmiddleton@themarketingsource.com> wrote:

Rudolph,

What your source neglected to tell you is that there is a list of requirements VVT sends centers at the time of campaign implementation and VVT makes NO claims that this is an easy campaign at any time.  VVT does not even recruit centers at all.  Every center VVt have has either approached VVT via word of mouth or through Lars.  Lars is the ONLY approved broker for the VVT campaign.  VVT actually tell the centers that this is a VERY tough campaign with tight margins and very clearly state all charges.  99% of all center that fail, do so because they do not follow our guidelines.  It is absolutely, positively cheaper and easier to dial using the centers own VOIP and dialer, unfortunately this is ILLEGAL per the TCPA laws as well as infractions of the Telemarketing Sales Rule that would undoubtedly occur if the call centers were not regulated.    TMS and/or VVT receives no profit Login and VOIP charges.  I have copied the most recent invoice for logins associated with 4 centers Lars has referred and feel free to confirm the same with the company that invoices us as well as Lars.  This is the actual amount deducted from the centers commissions and not a penny more.  You can see that VVT IS CHARGED $10/login.  VVT pre-pays this expense on behalf of the centers so they do not have any up-front expense of their own.  VVT provides Leads, VOIP and Logins so they can LAUNCH without investing ANY of their own money.    VVT then deducts this Login and VOIP expense from the centers earned commissions.  There is no charge for leads.  We disperse the amount VVT loads each for VOIP each week evenly amongst all centers based on their percentage of total logins.  We do not profit from this expense either.  Regarding “CPD” and what your source failed to tell you is that VVT is paid by the cruise line on a CPD (Cost Per Deal) basis.  Each centers quality is tracked separately and a quantitative measure of quality is attached to their transfers in terms of “CPD”.  We cannot let centers send calls “at will” with no concern for quality as many of them (even with the CPD +/- structure in place) send calls with no customer on the line, transfer answering machines, transfer customers that requested DNC, etc….. I will send you the complete VVT launch e-mail just as I would a prospective center so you can see the truth.  The fact that VVT must implement so many rules and guidelines is indeed most unfortunate, but don’t let your source fool you into thinking we are “screwing” them.  Rules and guidelines are in place to adhere to all applicable laws and to protect VVT from unethical centers.  We have centers that have been doing the campaign for more than 3 years now and while it isn’t easy, it CAN be profitable when guidelines are adhered to. 

The above email had the following five pictures included as shown belown: 

The invoice header seems to be a fake because I did not find until now one IT company frome the U.S.

• where the office phone number is hidden for privacy reasons from the public phone directory
  
  
• where the office phone number is assigned to Google voice
  
  
• where tel2name.com gives the result: 727-753-9323 - Deane Arteaga Wisteria Cir New Port Richey, Florida instead of Sun Bridge Systems LLC.
  
  
• which writes their own domain name in the heaer of the invoice wrong
  (subbridgesystems.com instead of sunbridgesystems.com)
  
  
• which needs to hide the ownership of their domain behind a privacy service
  
  
• which makes since 2 years and 5 months promotions at her homepage for their registrar Godaddy
  
  
• which has since 2 years and 5 months a homepage with the amazing content
  
  
  
• Buzzfile.com says about SUN BRIDGE SYSTEMS LLC:
  Sun Bridge Systems is located in Oldsmar, Florida. This organization primarily operates in the Business Services, nec business / industry within the Business Services sector. This organization has been operating for approximately 2 years. Sun Bridge Systems is estimated to generate $ 49,000 in annual revenues, and employs approximately 1 people at this single location.

SUN BRIDGE SYSTEMS, LLC is really a company and is listed at Floridas Department of State Division of Corporations (.pdf (119.20 kb)). The company got founded on March 11, 2013 at 5520 Rio Vista Dr., Clearwater, FL. 33760 (Link, .pdf (43.19 kb)) and relocated on April 1, 2014 to 518 Lakewood Dr., Oldsmar, FL 34677 (Link, .pdf (3.30 kb)).

Interesting is that LookUpBear (.pdf (118.69 kb)) tell us that the company SUN BRIDGE SYSTEMS, LLC is listed "under the heading Construction/Contractors which includes businesses that may offer home improvement construction, home construction, roofers, manufacturing of building materials". I know that we all would search for a telcommunications company in exactly this category!

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Link to http://bpofriends.com/profiles/blogs/vvt-free-cruise-non-voice-process removed as it already returns error 404 - not found.