Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

For the case you did not read the start of the scam, then you should start reading at: Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner to get the content of the full case.

As Christine Wisner has not been reachable by any other possibility, I have sent here at 5pm Philippines time a Skype request. Please observe that she is available at her office from 10am until 6pm Philippines time. She accepted the invitation 7 hours and 20 minutes later (0:30am). Normal people, which are working from 10am until 6pm are already sleeping. Only some times they are up at this time.

It even seems that Christine Wisner is not located at the Philippines, because I think that she even don't know the time here. Nobody will make on Skype a conference after midnight. I think that she is located in the German speaking part of Europe or in the USA. The name Wisner and the name Reinhardt, which she tried to use as a reference in the chat, are German names. Only the first name Wendy is not German. There is one more German sounding name involved: Wendy Fischer. The time she has been online is the normal day time in the USA or the evening in Europe.

Christine Wisner is located in India. Her IP address or the proxy, which she is using, is 103.26.200.188 (March 22, 2015 01:18am GMT). This IP has the following information:

General IP Information

Geolocation Information for IP: 103.26.200.188

The given phone numbers in her profile seems to be from a free phone forwarding service, which has been running into bankruptcy or got canceled without prior notice, like it is written in the terms and conditions of such services.

With all here argumentation have been about the comment from Willpower Infotech Limited, which are only an unproven comment to the real facts:

• The phone numbers +63-2-371 1478 (phone) and +63-2-371 1479 (fax), written in her profile, don't exists and there are no phone directory entries for this phone numbers at the Philippines. A company with land lines will be listed in the public phone directory.
  
  
• The companies,written at her profiles, with the name Western Wood Co., Wildwood Co., Westwood Co. and West Wood Pvt. Ltd. are not existing at the Philippines.
  
  
• The different information about her education at her both profiles
  
  
• The same picture, which is only mirrored and has another cut from the same original

Even the given time has passed for sending me some proves about the above facts. The only result has been that she went in Skype from busy to offline.

As I still have the Austrian Timezone installed at my laptop the time is the Austrian one and not the Philippine time. You have to add 7 hours to the written time.

She could even not give any explanation about this facts in the following Skype chat with me (the screen shots of the chat are attached at the end of this article):

[20.03.2015 10:08:11] *** Rudolf Faix möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen

Hallo christine.wisner, ich möchte Sie als Kontakt aufnehmen. ***

[20.03.2015 17:30:13] *** Christine Wisner hat Kontaktdetails mit Rudolf Faix ausgetauscht. ***

[20.03.2015 19:34:55] Christine Wisner: Hi

[20.03.2015 20:04:34] Christine Wisner: what happened , mr. judgemental !!

[20.03.2015 20:04:55] Christine Wisner: please give your comment and replys ?

[20.03.2015 22:46:01] *** Verpasster Anruf von Christine Wisner. ***

[20.03.2015 22:46:28] Christine Wisner: you should not be pocking nose in others business without knowing things properly !

[20.03.2015 22:48:57] Christine Wisner: I AM WAITIMG TO HEAR FROM YOU MR. JUDGEMENTAL  !!

[20.03.2015 23:27:52] Rudolf Faix: I have been waiting to hear from you yesterday too because I liked to get a statement from you. I have seen that you have even blocked me on LinkedIn. The most of the scammer are doing that, but it does not help them and it makes them only more suspicious!

[20.03.2015 23:29:42] Christine Wisner: Can you come on a call?

[20.03.2015 23:30:12] Rudolf Faix: No, the written word is counting higher than the spoken one.

[20.03.2015 23:31:19] Christine Wisner: that means you should'nt be poking your nose in others business when you don't know the truth

[20.03.2015 23:32:02] Rudolf Faix: I did not hide myself. i have been only sleeping like each normal person.

[20.03.2015 23:32:36] Christine Wisner: if you follow the discussion that has been shared in the group along with the buyer Hope you will understand that you are wrong

[20.03.2015 23:33:13] Rudolf Faix: I have made already the screen shots from this discussion

[20.03.2015 23:33:50] Christine Wisner: somebody said you something and you made a judgement without knowing the fact?

[20.03.2015 23:35:10] Rudolf Faix: I have only listed his "writing" together with his name and I have made some background check and there I have found the two profiles. The two profiles are a fact

[20.03.2015 23:36:09] Christine Wisner: how can you say something about without knowing the fact or working with me?

[20.03.2015 23:36:53] Christine Wisner: I am there in the contact in skype you could have atleast for the truth and proof before you do anything

[20.03.2015 23:37:37] Christine Wisner: you should have some commonsense before you state anything without knowing the fact!

[20.03.2015 23:38:17] Rudolf Faix: Very simple it fit everything together. You blocked me on LinkedIn, you have ther two profiles with different informations which are excluding each other, a company which does not exist and a complaint where you hide yourself instead of trying to solve the conflict. What do I need more for making my opinion?

[20.03.2015 23:39:25] Rudolf Faix: You have been online and you did not respond to my skype invitation.

[20.03.2015 23:40:26] Christine Wisner: once you comment without knowing anything about me we are not genuine thats why I blocked you

[20.03.2015 23:40:48] Rudolf Faix: That says each scammer about himself.

[20.03.2015 23:43:01] Christine Wisner: I will bring centres commenting on the post that you uploaded saying that they all got paid showing their payment proof and proving that you are commenting on someone without knowing the fact and if you can bring other centres who are not paid by Us

[20.03.2015 23:43:38] Christine Wisner: Being an elderly person I should be respecting you and you should also at the same time respect others with their work

[20.03.2015 23:43:47] Rudolf Faix: You are even publishing phone and faxnumbers, which don't ring. What is the sense of it?

[20.03.2015 23:45:46] Christine Wisner: call me accordin to our time zome 10 am -5pm

[20.03.2015 23:45:54] Christine Wisner: you will get hold of me

[20.03.2015 23:46:23] Rudolf Faix: I'm at the Philippines. Only my laptop is showing the Austrian time.

[20.03.2015 23:46:59] Christine Wisner:  but at the end of the day the same question comes !! how can you be judgemental with out knowing the fact ?

[20.03.2015 23:47:47] Rudolf Faix: I have enough facts together for my comment. I only add the communications from the night and this one now

[20.03.2015 23:47:51] Christine Wisner: i say you mr. xxx didnot paid me , will that be the truth

[20.03.2015 23:48:21] Rudolf Faix: That is only a comment. The other facts are showing already enough

[20.03.2015 23:49:05] Christine Wisner: you are mr.all knowing

[20.03.2015 23:49:08] Christine Wisner: TY

[20.03.2015 23:49:40] Rudolf Faix: If you think so, then will it be like this.

[20.03.2015 23:49:46] Christine Wisner: even after showing you the proof , you are arguing with me !

[20.03.2015 23:51:19] Christine Wisner: OK ,i am a fraud for you fine ! please get the facts from :

[20.03.2015 23:51:24] Christine Wisner: wendy.reinhardt33 and chad.saddoris

[20.03.2015 23:51:33] Rudolf Faix: Sorry, but you did not show me anything or give me any explaination about the fact, which I have written. I don't mean the part of Willpower Infotech Limited. I mean that about the 2 profiles, the different education, the missing company, the missing phone book entry of a "company"

[20.03.2015 23:53:01] Rudolf Faix: The Western Wood Co., Wildwood Co., Westwood Co, West Wood Pvt. Ltd.

[20.03.2015 23:53:40] Rudolf Faix: This are the facts and not the information of Willpower Infotech Limited

[20.03.2015 23:55:30] Rudolf Faix: The phone numbers +63-2-371 1478 and +63-2-371 1479, which have not been ringing yesterday during the day. I have called with different phones.

[20.03.2015 23:56:16] Rudolf Faix: Even your friends cannot help you against this facts.

[00:00:50] Rudolf Faix: Both pictures at the profiles are from the same original. They are only mirrored and have another cut. That is a fact too

[00:13:12] Rudolf Faix: I give you until 12 noon time to send me a copy from your registration of the company. You have written that you are in the office from 10am until 6pm. I'll verify it and publish my next article afterwards.

For the case you have not read the start of the scam, then you should start reading at: Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner to get the content of the full case.

Christine Wisner even expected, that everybody will be available at 2:35am Philippines time or 0:05am Indian time. Normal people, like me are already sleeping at this time. For this I have seen the conference in the morning after I waked up. Already this shows the egoism from Christine Wisner.

Like every scammer, she thinks that she need to write something and that is the only truth. Any document, which can prove her allegations are still missing or simple not available. As she lies already in her profiles, why should someone believe what she is writing now?

The facts that I see in this discussion is only the fake "Transfer Summary Xoom form". That is proven, because Willpower Infotech Limited submitted it and Christine Wisner ignored it completely. If she did not send it to Willpower Infotech, then she would reject immediately the existence of the document.

For the case that Wendy Fischer and Chad Saddoris are even existing (their messages got sent by Christine Wisner - you can prove it at the Skype screen shots at the end of this article), then it seems to be that they are partner in crime with Christine Wisner. It is really not possible that from 154 transmitted leads is not one valid. The three scammer Christine Wisner, Wendy Fischer and Chad Saddoris are even to lazy to document for each reject the reason.

I'm not involved in this case and for this I see the case different than Christine Wisner. For me is it logical that Christine Wisner is a SCAMMER. She could nothing prove during the full conference. My recommendation is to bring her in front of the law court.

As I still have the Austrian Timezone installed at my laptop the time is the Austrian one and not the Philippine time. You have to add 7 hours to the written time.

Skype conference with Christine Wisner (screenshots are attached to this article):

[20.03.2015 19:35:25] *** Christine Wisner hat Willpower Infotech Limited, Rudolf Faix hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:37:34 | Bearbeitet 19:37:48] Christine Wisner: please reply gentelmens

[20.03.2015 19:45:47] Christine Wisner: i am waiting for you

[20.03.2015 19:45:55] Christine Wisner: please reply

[20.03.2015 19:47:11] Willpower Infotech Limited: yes

[20.03.2015 19:47:13] Willpower Infotech Limited: miss

[20.03.2015 19:47:17] Willpower Infotech Limited: tell me

[20.03.2015 19:47:27] Christine Wisner: see the leds submitted from monday 9th march , a

[3/13/2015 1:51:31 AM] Wendy Fischer: it seems it is a waste of your time as well

[3/13/2015 1:51:56 AM] Wendy Fischer: you have submitted 154 leads this week

[3/13/2015 1:52:04 AM] Wendy Fischer: 113 Automated Rejections

[3/13/2015 1:52:10 AM] Wendy Fischer: 28 have been evaluated

[3/13/2015 1:52:12 AM] Wendy Fischer: 0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:52:29 AM] Christine Wisner: can you see ths weeks submittion

[3/13/2015 1:52:56 AM] Christine Wisner: till yesterday

[3/13/2015 1:54:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: those are this weeks leads

[3/13/2015 1:54:42 AM] Chad Saddoris: you have submitted 154 leads this week

113 Automated Rejections

28 have been evaluated

0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:54:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: so not good at all

[3/13/2015 1:55:03 AM] Christine Wisner: from 9th mrch

[3/13/2015 1:55:07 AM] Chad Saddoris: yep

[3/13/2015 1:55:28 AM] Wendy Fischer: from Monday, march 9th thru right now

[3/13/2015 1:55:43 AM] Wendy Fischer: so we need to pause you at end of business day

[20.03.2015 19:47:28] Willpower Infotech Limited: Mr mohith here

[20.03.2015 19:47:57] Christine Wisner: CHAD and Wendy is the buyer for your Quality leads

[20.03.2015 19:48:26] *** Christine Wisner hat chatwin.caberte hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:48:55] Christine Wisner: [12:12:58 AM] Chad Saddoris: we gave you the reports our client provides

[12:13:06 AM] Chad Saddoris: and your leads were the worst I've ever seen

[12:13:14 AM] Christine Wisner: i just want you to come and give the report in the group once

[12:13:39 AM] Chad Saddoris: what dates did your run

[12:13:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: I send you a report for the entire date range

[12:14:01 AM] Christine Wisner: thank you , chad

[12:14:08 AM] Chad Saddoris: what dates?

[12:14:15 AM] Chad Saddoris: and tell them their leads were horrible

[12:16:15 AM] Chad Saddoris: when did you start?

[12:16:31 AM] Christine Wisner: yes

[12:17:05 AM] Christine Wisner: i also said them , that due to them i lost your campaign , where you have paid me in the past also

[12:17:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: so what date do you want the report from?

[20.03.2015 19:49:00] *** Willpower Infotech Limited hat Dialhub Info Solutions hinzugefügt ***

[20.03.2015 19:49:58] Christine Wisner: WILLPOWER , your leads are all horrible quality , and due your quality ,i lost my campaign , that was paying me all the time

[20.03.2015 19:50:31] Christine Wisner: please say your part ??

[20.03.2015 19:52:09] Christine Wisner: say ?

[20.03.2015 19:52:33] Christine Wisner: you dont belive me

[20.03.2015 19:53:03] Christine Wisner: send all your leads submitted in a exel file , here in this group

[20.03.2015 19:53:23] Christine Wisner: and the buyer will directly report you here in this group

[20.03.2015 19:55:38] Willpower Infotech Limited: if my quality were not good, u shud have stopped me then and there only

[20.03.2015 19:56:20] Willpower Infotech Limited:

no feedback from u. u need to work along with us for the quality

[20.03.2015 19:56:36] Willpower Infotech Limited: many time i tred to contact u

[20.03.2015 19:56:47] Willpower Infotech Limited: but no reply from u

[20.03.2015 19:57:32] Christine Wisner: the day i got the report , the next day i asked your partner dailhub to stop dailing from that day and asked him to inform you

[20.03.2015 19:57:35] Willpower Infotech Limited: what u think do our emplyess are working as free of cost

[20.03.2015 19:57:39] Christine Wisner: and he did informed you

[20.03.2015 19:58:16] Christine Wisner: you think your old leads will be billed by MSM ?

[20.03.2015 19:58:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: hello

[20.03.2015 19:58:34] Christine Wisner: yes

[20.03.2015 19:58:42] Willpower Infotech Limited: we buy new DATAS

[20.03.2015 19:59:01] Christine Wisner: either your vendor is fraud

[20.03.2015 19:59:08] Willpower Infotech Limited: its cost of 30k

[20.03.2015 19:59:19] Christine Wisner: or you are giving me old data

[20.03.2015 19:59:33] Christine Wisner: and its not only according to me

Willpower Infotech Limited

[20.03.2015 19:59:50] Christine Wisner: MSM also is reporting that

Willpower Infotech Limited

[20.03.2015 20:00:28] Willpower Infotech Limited: see he that person always say with everyone

[20.03.2015 20:00:34] Willpower Infotech Limited: buy datas

[20.03.2015 20:00:48] Willpower Infotech Limited: from me ill give u frish leads

[20.03.2015 20:00:57] Willpower Infotech Limited: Bla ba bla

[20.03.2015 20:01:37] Willpower Infotech Limited: dialhub has informed us to stop the dialing and later u also informed us to stop and was asked to speak to u on march 9

[20.03.2015 20:02:39] Christine Wisner: listen , i dont have any grudge against you! you got me mad as you re saing this without knowing. MSM , the buyer is not going to pay for the laeds. but the same time he is clearing payout for other centers !

[20.03.2015 20:02:59] Christine Wisner: so i cant pont finger at them

[20.03.2015 20:03:26] Christine Wisner: [3/13/2015 1:54:29 AM] Chad Saddoris: those are this weeks leads

[3/13/2015 1:54:42 AM] Chad Saddoris: you have submitted 154 leads this week

113 Automated Rejections

28 have been evaluated

0 are billable

[3/13/2015 1:54:48 AM] Chad Saddoris: so not good at all

[3/13/2015 1:55:03 AM] Christine Wisner: from 9th mrch

[3/13/2015 1:55:07 AM] Chad Saddoris: yep

[3/13/2015 1:55:28 AM] Wendy Fischer: from Monday, march 9th thru right now

[3/13/2015 1:55:43 AM] Wendy Fischer: so we need to pause you at end of business day

now say how will i pay them ?

[20.03.2015 20:05:33] Willpower Infotech Limited:

but u have not answered me when i tried to reach u from that day

Dialhub Info Solutions: what else could be done

[20.03.2015 20:06:07] Christine Wisner: i was not online for 2-3 days

[20.03.2015 20:06:13] Willpower Infotech Limited: oh

[20.03.2015 20:06:15] Willpower Infotech Limited: cool

[20.03.2015 20:06:18] Willpower Infotech Limited: miss

[20.03.2015 20:06:38] Willpower Infotech Limited: ur replying to other center

[20.03.2015 20:06:50] Willpower Infotech Limited: but u dnt have time to reply us

[20.03.2015 20:07:05] Christine Wisner: to some centers who are submitting leads or just joined

[20.03.2015 20:07:12] Willpower Infotech Limited: shall i give chat histry???

[20.03.2015 20:07:34] Willpower Infotech Limited: do u think i dnt have any other center contact

[20.03.2015 20:08:36] Christine Wisner: i am adding you to chad and wendy

[20.03.2015 20:08:56] Christine Wisner: give your 3 weeks report in the group

[20.03.2015 20:09:22] Christine Wisner: and ask them directly

[20.03.2015 20:12:27] Willpower Infotech Limited: finally what is the end for this issue, we have dialed for 3 weeks and let us know what is billable and when will i get the payouts?? that's it

[20.03.2015 20:14:31] Christine Wisner: your quality is a direct issue for the buyers

[20.03.2015 20:14:42] Christine Wisner: but not for other centers

[20.03.2015 20:14:57] Christine Wisner: the buyer is ready to release the billable for others

[20.03.2015 20:15:27] Willpower Infotech Limited: u have to pay many center

[20.03.2015 20:15:37] Willpower Infotech Limited: i knw very well

[20.03.2015 20:15:52] Willpower Infotech Limited: am nt talking abt myself only

[20.03.2015 20:16:04] Willpower Infotech Limited: am fighting for others also

[20.03.2015 20:16:27] Christine Wisner: i have paid centers from you city , today itself

[20.03.2015 20:16:33] Willpower Infotech Limited: i request the other people in the group participate in the discussion

[20.03.2015 20:16:40] Christine Wisner: sure

[20.03.2015 20:18:27] Willpower Infotech Limited:

if quality is the issue, u shud have stopped me. u never gave me any feedback for the transfers made

then y u didnt pay my partner center Dialhub, he is also begging behind you

he is also in my city

[20.03.2015 20:19:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: we sent daily report and we never got any feedback, now tell me whose mistake it is???

answer me for this???

[20.03.2015 20:19:51] Christine Wisner: the moment , i got the report , i paused you the next day

[20.03.2015 20:21:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: can u share the mail in which u have sent the report

[20.03.2015 20:22:25] Willpower Infotech Limited: i got only one report for the last week of february

and what hap to 1st & 2nd week of march

[20.03.2015 20:22:52] Willpower Infotech Limited:

and moreover u have not officially informed me to stop dialing for EDU

[20.03.2015 20:24:37] Christine Wisner: i am shareing the report that i got directly from the buyers end Chad and wendy !

[20.03.2015 22:48:01] Christine Wisner: DO YOU NEED TO SAY ANY THING RUDOLF FAIX ??

[20.03.2015 23:29:11] Dialhub Info Solutions: hello

[20.03.2015 23:30:04] Dialhub Info Solutions: ms. christine, first of u try to respond to the centers, if u don't do it, then name goes in tasks

[20.03.2015 23:37:01] Dialhub Info Solutions: mrs. christine - pls respond to me when i ask u something

Update: The case continues - Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong

Update: The case continues - Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong

As more closely I take a look in the offshore outsourcing business as more I come to the conclusion that either the offshore call center themselves should get deceived or it should help to cheat others.

I got the following email with attachments forwarded. For easier reading I have opened the documents and pasted their content into the email. The script shows how the customer is getting betrayed.

It is a game to make the called one afraid that he does not get his medication in the future. That is already a big fault in selling. That has nothing to do with a serious sale. It looks like the client has no chance to sell his products in a serious way to someone. For this purpose he need to use such criminal methods.

If you are looking at the from me read marked parts of the email, then you see that you get only paid if the lead is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies. All other medications are not getting paid.

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: diabetic LT
From: "Visionary Leads" <info@visionaryleads.com>
Date: 2/4/15 10:47 am
To: jorell@visionaryleads.com

OUTSOURCEDIABETIC SCRIPT.DOCX

Hi! Is (patient) available?

Hi (patient)! I'm calling from Health Source. I just want to let you know Mr./Mrs. (patient) that you may no longer be receiving your diabetic supplies in the mail and I just wanted to make sure that you will be getting your diabetes supplies on time.

Do you mind me asking the last time that you got your diabetic supplies in the mail?

Ok! I'm going to get you setup. I just have to verify some basic information.

-Verify the address:

Are you still located at _________?

Can I have you Date of Birth?

Also, can I have your primary health insurance?
(No Medicare Part B or Medicaid)
(Diabetics with Medicare accompanied with private insurance, Share private insurance with Pharma Rep)

Before I'm going to transfer you to the pharmacy specialist that's going to get you setup, I just want ask you if there are any issues with your health that I may be able to help with?

-(Site exaples-e.g. back pain, join pain, diabetic neuropathy etc.)

Because you are eligible to receive a new compounded pain cream at little to no cost to you. The pain cream is a much more effective option than normal medication.
Also, it will help get rid of any pain you may be having.

-Ask for the pain location (start with the most severely affected location)

Ok! Great. Just make sure you CLEARLY STATE that you are willing to switch suppliers to the pharmacy affiliate, so you can receive your mention supplies on time and on a regular basis. Just one second while I get the diabetic specialist on the line. She is going to verify your doctor and make sure you have the proper billing information for your insurance and then we will get that sent out for you immediately.

Please stay on the line okay?
----transfer call----
(WHEN TRANSFERRING A CALL ALWAYS PROVIDE THE DIABETIC’S PRIVATE INSURANCE TO PHARMA SPECIALIST)


DIABETIC LIVE TRANSFER GUIDELINES.DOCX
LIVE XFER DIRECTIONS:

It is important inform the patient they may need to switch suppliers. A Diabetic specialist will explain the detailed options after verifying Contact Info/ Insurance info / Dr. Info.
Specialists will accept introduction with either short or long form info.

  TO TRANSFER A CALL TO THE DIABETIC SPECIALIST: AGENT INTERFACE:
TRANSFER>Presets>MedCare Pharmacy>DIAL WITH CUSTOMER>LEAVE 3 WAY CALL

INTRODUCE THE PATIENT TO THE SPECIALIST AND LET THE AGENT KNOW WHICH PRODUCT THE PATIENT IS INTERESTED IN (EX: DIABETIC TESTING SUPPLIES, PAIN GEL, ETC).

IF YOU HAVE ASKED THE PATIENT FOR INSURANCE/DR INFO, THEN TELL THE SPECIALIST THE INFO YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY WITH THE PATIENT.
PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND LEAVE THE CONFERENCE QUIETLY.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE INTRODUCTION QUIETLY LEAVE THE CALL.
ANY NOISE DURING THE RECORDED ENROLLMENT PROCESS WILL VOID THE LEAD.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

HEALTH SOURCE

- Health Source represents Pharmacy affiliates. Our purpose is to supply quality Pharmacy services and products to the comfort and privacy of our patients homes at little or no cost to the patient.

- We are looking for patients who need diabetic testing supplies.

-We offer all meters/strips, medical supplies, Braces, and Compound Rx Medications shipped to the patients home on a regular basis at no cost to them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agent Notes:

- Remember only transfer when the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy.

- When a patient asks a question that you do not know, simply transfer the call and inform the patient "a diabetic specialist will better answer your question, If you would like I can transfer you now……(xfer to Pharmacy)".

- Engage patients in conversation that will stimulate a positive rapport without wasting time. Be efficient with your time and know when to hangup. Many patients will speak on and on with no intention of enrolling in our service……. Reports, Graphs, and Call-Data Metrics reflect a positive correlation between top producing agents to agents with the longest call time averages.
On average, the best agents spend more time on on each call because they stay close to the script, establish a rapport, all while speaking clearly and slowly.
      Ex: Confirm a street
address/dob/PolicyInfo/doctor/etc, Ask about the weather, mention a personal experience, discuss your health concerns, etc.. NEVER let a patient control a conversation. Stick to the point and get back to your script as quickly as possible.

- Remember only transfer if the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy located in sunny south Florida,

Sent from my iPhone

John Krawczyk
Visionary Leads
CMO
215-949-3636
www.visionaryleads.com
www.seomanagementconsultants.com
www.classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists)
www.diabeticdesk.com

I’ll suggest in this case making for your own security a recording of the transferred call. This is technical possible if your VoIP system is staying in the media path after the transfer. It uses a little bit more traffic but you have afterwards something what you can present to any fraud investing official.

If we take a look at the listed domains in the signature than we find out that:

• seomanagementconsultants.com is registered at May 15, 2012, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
• visionaryleads.com is registered at June 3, 2013, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
• classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) is a new domain, registered at September 30, 2014. This site is already registered to an address in India and has a corresponding bad reputation.
• diabeticdesk.com is also a new domain, registered at November 23, 2014. This site is registered to an India address and has a very high risk.
• classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) and diabeticdesk.com are hosted at a server, which have one more high risk site on it: ropemediahouse.com
• Interesting is in any case that ropemediahous.com and classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) have the same owner, who does even not know what is a street and a house number:
  classesanddegree.com: Rope Media Pvt Ltd, Gurgaon, 122001 Haryana, India, +91.9818555403
  ropemediahouse.com: Rope Media Private Limited, Vasant Kunj, 110070 New Delhi, +91.01244306053

If we take a look at the website www.diabeticdesk.com then we know why only leads for diabetic measurement products are getting paid. There is no other product offered then diabetic measurements. Drugs are not offered. For this the necessary drugs will not get shipped. It would be better to get a campaign from or for a drugstore. In such a case the call center will not cheat some people.

The name John Krawczyk sounds and seems to be a Polish name. In combination with the facts above I remember an old Austrian proverb: “Come and visit Poland - Your car is already there.”

It seems for me that there is an organized fraud happening. It can be possible too, that John Krawczyk is getting used from the scammer from India.

Registration information of the used Domains:

Domain Name: SEOMANAGEMENTCONSULTANTS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1720656451_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-16T10:52:36Z
Creation Date: 2012-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: (215) 609-0122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: (215) 543-5736
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: (215) 609-0122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: (215) 543-5736
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: (215) 609-0122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: (215) 543-5736
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-05T21:00:00Z

Domain Name: VISIONARYLEADS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1805955020_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-06-04 07:52:36
Creation Date: 2013-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: SEO
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 2156090122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: SEO
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 2156090122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: SEO
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: 2156090122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-07-31T19:00:00Z

Domain Name: CLASSESANDDEGREE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1878271185_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Creation Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Registrant Street: Gurgaon
Registrant City: Gurgaon
Registrant State/Province: Haryana
Registrant Postal Code: 122001
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9818555403
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Admin Street: Gurgaon
Admin City: Gurgaon
Admin State/Province: Haryana
Admin Postal Code: 122001
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9818555403
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Tech Street: Gurgaon
Tech City: Gurgaon
Tech State/Province: Haryana
Tech Postal Code: 122001
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9818555403
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z

Domain Name: DIABETICDESK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1886767790_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Registrant City: Lucknow
Registrant State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 226010
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9161867901
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Admin City: Lucknow
Admin State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 226010
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9161867901
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Tech City: Lucknow
Tech State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 226010
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9161867901
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z

Domain Name: ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM this domain is only at the same Server.
Registry Domain ID: 1860052127_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Creation Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Registrant Street: Vasant Kunj
Registrant Street: Vasant Kun
Registrant City: New Delhi
Registrant State/Province: Delhi
Registrant Postal Code: 110070
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.01244306053
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Admin Street: Vasant Kunj
Admin Street: Vasant Kun
Admin City: New Delhi
Admin State/Province: Delhi
Admin Postal Code: 110070
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.01244306053
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Tech Street: Vasant Kunj
Tech Street: Vasant Kun
Tech City: New Delhi
Tech State/Province: Delhi
Tech Postal Code: 110070
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.01244306053
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-11-17T14:00:00Z

Diabetic Desk.pdf (324KB)

A business is only good if the risk is low and the earnings are high. In the following offer is it a good business only for the SCAMMER. The center owner has even the risk to end up in jail while the scammer is hiding himself.

A friend forwarded me the following offer and asked me about my opinion:

Hello!
We outsource US Inbound Technical Support Campaign! from more than 3 years and complete genuine in terms of accounts & calls. We operate from Mumbai, India. We do not charge any Royalty, consulting fees & security deposit.
We keep transparency in our Business.

The following are the details of the process:-
Agents required: 10 or more
Technician: 1 or more
US Toll Free Number
Payment Gateway
Dialer
Lease line with minimum speed of 2 MBPS
Website (Optional)
Computer's with good configuration.(Windows 7 preferred)

Pricing for Windows, Pop u calls: (Prepaid System)
1. Price for 10-50 calls  - Rs. 850/- per call
2. Price for 51-100 calls - Rs. 800/- per call
3. Price for 101-200 calls - Rs. 750/- per call
4. Price for 201-350 calls - Rs. 700/- per call
Note: 30 paid test calls per day will be provided only for 3 days at start, 30 calls for 3 days.

The following are the details of the US Inbound Tech Support Campaign:-
1. Campaign will be running for minimum 10 calls only.
2. The payment for the campaign will be in advance. Minimum 48 working hours ago (Wire Transfer). No Credit is given on any grounds.
3. Calls will be received from US / Canada customers only.
4. Timings for the campaign to start are 10:00 pm to 5:00 am IST (Monday - Friday).
5. Call recording to be provided, if required.
6. Center should have a US / Canada Toll Free Number only.
7. Minimum 10 - 12 calls will be routed per slot.
8. Daily MIS report for the calls is to be shared at EOD compulsorily for verification. If not shared, the report provided from contractor will be final and undebatable..
9. If any issue or problem occurs, campaign will be paused and will be active once it is approved by the Contractor itself.
10. Any called missed or abandoned due to lack of technology or late communication will be counted as paid call to the client.
11. Calls Category – Webmail calls, Pop up calls, Antivirus calls, Tablet calls, PC running slow, MAC calls, Printer calls, Antivirus not downloading or running etc..
12. We are no where concerned whether the center makes sale's out of the Inbound calls or not.
As we provide the best calls and there is also some effort shown from the center to up-sell the customers.
13. No replacement for calls will be given on any grounds.

PS: No free or test calls provided. Only Serious Call Centers / BPO contact me and please don't waste mine as well as your time.

Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Priyesh Rao
Cell - +91 9820557973
Skype - priyesharao
Website - www.euroanswerllc.com
Reference Center in Begumpet, Hyderabad

The scammer Aldiablos Infotech Pvt. Ltd. likes now to continue by sending out emails.  Instead of showing that they are real people and are making real business they try to go another way.

Their only problem has been that scamadviser reports about aldiablos.com:

Alert Result: The owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.

Others have made some more investigations and have found at http://www.complaintboard.in/complaints-reviews/aldiablos-infotech-pvt-ltd-l325773.html:

I had given a check of 0000 to Aldiablos BPO LTD, to procure the business. But the information that was given to me before giving the check was different and after giving the check they turned back on their words. They were supposed to give me the reference centers but they did not provide me with the reference centers. When asked about it they were not able to provide me the same with no explanations. It was then when i came to know that Aldiablos BPO Ltd is the same company as Smart Consultancy. Both the companies are running in the same office. when questioned the Director Abhishek Dubey, he told me that Aldiablos BPO Ltd is no longer associated with Smart Consultancy. But the security check that i was given had Vikram Pratap Singh's signature on it. When confronted with the same, Dubey had no answers and he walked out. This is a complete fraud. Later on i receive an email from Bhoomi Jani. She sent an email to me with the details of the same process and the email was sent under Smart Consultancy's name but when spoke to her on the phone she said she was with Aldiablos BPO Ltd. They operate under various names, namely, Smart Consultancy, Smart Human Resources, Euphoria Technologies, Aldiablos BPO Pvt Ltd. They keep on cheating people of the money and do not deliver the promised project. They do not have any work with them and they create their own project to fool people. People like Vikram Singh, Sonal Chauhan, Abhishek Dubey, Imran Mallik, Siddharth Sharma, Bhoomi Jani are the once flooding the professional network sites with their useless projects and try to prey on to innocent center owners. Even the new employees for their company do not know the exact work. They show of their premises and plush offices to the people and con them. The reason i am writing this is so that others who are planning to work with Smart Consultancy, Smart Human Resources, Euphoria Technologies, Aldiablos BPO Pvt Ltd, do not get duped and are saved.

Others

Rohan Mathews

Please call - Sanjay - 8108552492.

07 August 2013

Abraham Joseph

@Rohan: Who is sanjay? Give a back ground so that I can call him.

05 September 2013

Pravin Manjarekar

Hello please share your details or call me as I have invested my money in aldiablos infotech pvt ltd. I am having a terrible time after reading your comments. Request you to call me on 8087509154. Thanka

18 December 2013

Pravin Manjarekar

Myself pravin manjarekar from Mumbai. I had paid certain amount to Aldiablos Infotech for a project. Unfortunately even as they were about to give me the project i asked for refund as I needed the money due to my financial crisis. So they have politely as a company should paid me my half amount without any hesitation. And they would be paying me my balance amount in some time.

I dont have any grievances with Aldiablos. my contact no is 8087509154. Thanks

19 February 2014

Pravin Manjarekar

Hie guys..they are a fraud company.. and they have not returned my money... dot do business with them.. theynwill just take ur money and never give you any project.. call me on 8087509154 for further info

13 April 2014

Paresh Sojitra

Hello Chaitanya

 

You have also mentioned about Euphoria Technologies involved in this?

Anyone has any fraud experience with Euphoria Technologies as well?

07 May 2014

Chaitanya Bhise

Hi Paresh

I had mentioned Euphoria Technologies purely based on hearsay but after investigation and a lot of research Euphoria Technologies is not a part of the Smart Consultancy Group and is a entirely different company.

17 July 2014

Chaitanya Bhise

Hi Everyone I have not been in touch with these complaints as i was travelling so did not get time to update the status. As per my last comment i have already mailed the Grahak Seva to remove the name for Euphoria Technologies and hence request anyone and everyone to disregard the complaint against Euphoria Technologies as I have been satisfied with my investigation and research that Euphoria Technologies is a fair company. Thanks

17 July 2014

Hitendra Patil

Chaitanya can you give me your contact number?

01 August 2014

Bobby George

08605428718

12 August 2014

Komal Shrivastav

yes this is tottaly fruad company

smart consaltany and aldiablos infotech pvt ltd both are same company.

this company's all member are fraud not given a services

25 September 2014

Praksah Chatterjee

Need help regarding Aldiablos Infotech Pvt Ltd... i got a call from Prachi Sharma from Aldiablos Infotech Pvt Ltd and she offered me a business outsource (IT Support). The total investment is of 15 Lacks ... please guide if i should go for it or not

13 October 2014

Priya Agarwal

Hello

I would suggest do not go for the same as the previous comments which are written are totally correct and the people here are been cheated and create multiple Id's and than call for the projects and all

06 November 2014

Abraham Chacko

Hi

 

Can someone let me know if these companies are geunuine .1) Wizards Technologies 2) Euphoria Technoloiges Surat. Need to know about these companies before i sign a deal with them.

 

Regards

10 November 2014

Harshad Jagtap

Now they have started same business with new name sci solutions go through link scisolutions.us

07 January 2015

Amarnath Goli

Hii

This people wasting the time with delaying the updates after signing up!!

16 February 2015