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The scammer Mel Puleo thinks that the sun is shining 24 hours a day

C Mel Puleo profile picture LinkedInAs Mel Puleo is providing false information or a notorious liar, he will fail in each business. Not one street team, call center, distributor or salesman will be able to sell something by promising the blue from the sky and shipping trash. Someone, which is interested into solar systems will inform himself and know the prevailing prices. Call centers are only able to generate leads for selling a solar system and are not able to make a final contract for a solar system which has the double price as which is normally usable at the market. Not one will buy a system, which has a price of US$ 40,000 during a cold call. Already this fact shows that Mel Puleo is with his dreams far away from any reality.

At Alibaba Mel Puleo is offering with the title **** No More Electric bills 4 Ever! *** Distributors wanted ZERO OUT OF POCKET (.pdf) solar systems with a nominal capacity of 10 kWp, 20 kWp and 60 kWp at a price between US$ 40,000 and US$ 200,000.

The problem is only that the smallest solar system with a capacity of 10kWp needs the place for 40 collectors. Each collector needs the place of 1.65m2 (13.93 yd2). In total is a place needed of 66m2 (78.94 yd2). Such a system does not fit on all roofs, because not one module is allowed to get a shadow during the full day (for example from a chimney) and all solar modules need to be adjusted to the direction sun.

The offer found at Alibaba is highly overpriced. For example we can find at Anapode Solar (warehouses in California, Colorado, New York and Pennsylvania) a similar offer for a price between US$ 22,640 (Canadian Solar 260Wp Panels) and US$ 25,070 (Hundai 275Wp Panels) with all options included (without the off-grid option) and free shipping included.

His offer is even misleading, because all solar systems are nominated in kWp (kilo Watt peak) and not in KWH (kilo Watt per hour). The energy production is depending on the hours the sun is shining and their intensity. Anyway if it is only a type mismatch or not, the scam can get found in the sentence:

Our 10KWH Produces 87,600-KWH , Our 20-KWH produces 175,200KWH, AND our 60KWH commercial unit produces 525,000-KWH per year

It seems that the sun shines 24 hours a day for the stupid scammer C. Mel Puleo. Let's make a simple recalculation of his naive fallacy: 10 kilo Watt per hour * 24 hours a day * 365 days per year = 87,600. That is simple wrong and shows that the scammer does even not know something about the product he is offering. He even does not understand the difference between sun (solar) and moon (lunar)! For the case that he has been really got an education from an University like he has written in his LinkedIn profile, than this education has been from a very poor quality.

I have calculated for the best orientation (180° S and 40° slope) from a location in Kansas (37.44°N / 98°W) looking for me to be more or less in the middle of the U.S. - for the offered solar systems a result for 10 kWp a yearly total of 17,000 kWh, 20 kWp a yearly total of 34,000 kWp and for the 60 kWp system a yearly total energy production of around 102,000 kWp. Here are the results for the optimal orientation and optimal installation of the solar modules:

10kWp
20kWp
60kWp

It is possible to improve these values a little bit with auto adjusting of the orientation from the solar panels, but that will not bring a big improvement of the results. It seems that the scammer does not know that a solar system is less power producing during cloudy days.

I have used the data from meteoblue.com. You can get similar results by using the online calculator from the PVWatts Calculator from NREL. NREL is a national laboratory of the U.S. Department of Energy, Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, operated by the Alliance for Sustainable Energy, LLC.

Summary: For his victims does it not make any difference if they are getting scammed from C. Mel Puleo's stupidity, incapability or by indent - the result is for them the same. My opinion is as Mel Puleo provides different information about himself, is scamming call centers and does not care about his own offers for end users that he is nothing else than a scammer and never a serious business man. For the case that he got scammed by himself than he guilty by himself too, for trusting someone and not verifying the provided information. In such a case he has failed against his commercial due diligence.

@C. Mel Puleo: An attorney and a law court cannot replace missing intelligence and intelligence is not commercially available. Don't go in the the sun if you have butter on your head.

 

Scammer from U.S. - Mel Puleo - cmpuleoconsulting.com

C.M. PuleoAs more a scammer is in need of earning some money as more unbelievable are coming their offers. One of this scammers is Mel Puleo from cmpuleoconsulting.com. Everybody should know that the margin in the electronics industry are very tight. As more vendors are coming up on the market as lower coming the average prices and margins. That happens in each industry and not only in the electronics and solar industry.

Some background information about prices and margins are getting found by a Google search. For example is written at CleanTechnica from February 2014:

However, prices vary tremendously by region. “Common residential system prices ranged from less than $3.00/W to just above $7.00/W,” the Solar Energy Industries Association wrote in 2014 regarding 2013 figures. The story hasn’t changed much since then, even though prices on both ends have come down.

Woodlawn Associates shows the possible margins a little bit better in their article The Economics of Residential Solar Installation:

The average dealer in our most recent project had revenue of $4.60 per Watt DC ($5.54 per Watt AC) over the past 12 months. The typical dealer had a cost to install of $3.71 per Watt — 80% of revenue. Earlier this year, we found dealers spend an average of 17% of revenue to acquire customers. This leaves only 3% for general and administrative expenses and profit, suggesting typical installer profits are slim. Consider that over the past year Real Goods Solar, the only publically traded firm in the residential installation industry, had G&A expenses alone that averaged 6% of revenue. (Real Goods also lost money during this period.)

The above example shows that not more than 15% - 17% from the complete costs of a solar system can get used for acquiring customers. Don't forget that the costs from Mel Puleo and her C.M. Puleo Consulting company are already included in these costs as he is nothing else running than a consulting company and the trading company makes already no earnings by paying these commission rates. Who will work for free?

By observing the facts from above you need to take a look at the spam offer from Mel Puleo - C.M. Puleo Consulting:

From: Mel Puleo, Solar [mailto:mel@cmpuleoconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Highest Payout for Solar campaign up to 7K/sale

To whom it may concern:

Our company is seeking experienced Telemarketing center in sales. The solar energy industry is growing rapidly in CA and we are building our sales team to meet the demand.

Compensation for each sale can range from $4K to $10K and beyond.

This is the most competitive Compensation in the industry bar none.

$500.00 commission is paid upfront the following week on every sale, the rest gets paid out on install [30/35 days out from the date of sale]

Our Floor commissions include “NO Adders”, this means you keep 100% of your earned compensation, no other Company offers this, and can typically eat away at your overall commission by 30 to 60%.

We will only entertain nothing less than 10 agents to start.

If you're 100% confident, you have killer closers & you feel that your center has what it takes to close over the phone, we have the best trainer in the industry “BAR NONE” that will walk you by the hand until you can fly on your own.

We are also looking for Appointment Setters, call for comp plan.

Feel free to contact us via skype or thru the phone listed below.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thank you.
--

Best Regards,

Mel Puleo

President

C.M. Puleo Consulting

Contact #: (305)-527-8085

mel@cmpuleoconsulting.com

skype: carmine-puleo

The scam gets already shown in the above sentence "Compensation for each sale can range from $4K to $10K and beyond", because a typical solar energy installation for house has less than 5kW and has a usually price range of less than US$ 20,000. If we calculate from this price the maximum from 17% total paid commission than we get including the earnings from C.M. Puleo Consulting only US$ 3,400 and not US$ 4,000 like written in the email offer for the center.

If we take a look at the site Recruiter about the average income from a solar sales representative, than we'll find there the following statement:

A Solar Sales Representative or Assessor gets a compensation ranging between 64000 and 96000 depending on experience and domain knowledge. Solar Sales Representatives and Assessors earn a compensation of Eighty Four Thousand Four Hundred dollars each year.

An average income from US$ 84,400 per year equals to US$ 7,033 per month. Such a sales person needs only to sell two solar systems per month to be a profit for his company if the commission for each sale is US$ 4,000.

As the salary from the sales representative cannot get replaced with telemarketing agents how many sales such a sales representative needs to make per day that the telemarketer and the sales representative are able to earn their income?

Don't forget that from the before calculated total possible commission of US$ 3,400 per sale has to get paid the telemarketer, the sales representative and C. M.Puleo Consulting Company. I hope everybody sees now the scam in the offer above.

Real companies are going offshore for increasing their earnings by lowering their cost per sale and not to spend more. Especially in the technical industry are the margins very tight and each company tries to reduce their own costs. For this reason is already the offer from C.M. Puleo nothing else than a big lie. Under these circumstances are coming the complaints about C.M. Puleo Consulting believable which get found at:

A few from the complains listed above got written by the same person, but that does not make them unbelievable. Combined with the other complaints they are making sense. Especially the Ripoff Report from August 2, 2012 where Mel Puleo complains David Hjorth shows the fails and/or scam history from Mel Puleo:

All the above facts are showing what C. M. Puleo is understanding under business: Having an idea and the earnings, others should risk their hard earned money, doing the work and cry for their earnings because they will not get paid and the investment will never returned. I call such a behavior scam.

The domain registration data of cmpuleoconsulting.com:

Domain Name: cmpuleoconsulting.com
Registry Domain ID: 1777649011_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/
Updated Date: 2016-01-29T00:48:49Z
Creation Date: 2013-02-01T04:45:09Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-01T04:45:09Z
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Registrar IANA ID: 2
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@web.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8003337680
Reseller: 
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Carmelo Puleo
Registrant Organization: C.M. Puleo Consulting LLC
Registrant Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Registrant City: North Miami Beach
Registrant State/Province: FL
Registrant Postal Code: 33160
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3055278085
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant Fax: 
Registrant Fax Ext.:
Registrant Email: melpoint83@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Carmelo Puleo
Admin Organization: C.M. Puleo Consulting LLC
Admin Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Admin City: North Miami Beach
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Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.3055278085
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Admin Email: melpoint83@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Carmelo Puleo
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Tech Street: 3551 NE 169 St Condo 402A 
Tech City: North Miami Beach
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Tech Phone: +1.3055278085
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Name Server: ns14.wixdns.net
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>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-29T00:48:49Z <<<

Update March 12, 2016: A Mel from using the IP address from Costa Rica 190.108.73.13 sent the following message using the contact function of my blog:

Remove this immediately!! or my lawyer will be contacting you on monday morning!!! This is ridicules!!!! My wife and I work ungodly hrs, and for someone who clearly has just way to-much time on their hands to sit behind a PC and make up all this bullshit is beyond what words can describe! I need to know who was the person who placed this as we will spare no expense to go after them legally!!


https://blog.wwpa.com/post/2016/03/12/scammer-from-u-s-mel-puleo-cmpuleoconsulting-com

 

Author information

Name: Mel
E-mail: melp82@gmail.com
IP address: 190.108.73.13
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_5) AppleWebKit/601.4.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0.3 Safari/537.86.4

Already the content of the message shows the character from the person. Instead of explaining where I'm wrong with my opinion, he is threatens only with legal action. The only problem is that he needs to show some evidence in front of the law court. He should also read the full legal disclaimer from this site for knowing my address too. He will need it for selecting the court and in front of the court.

Scammer: Sandeep Yadav - ACE Infosys - aceinfosysos.com

Yadav SandeepIt is every time funny if a scammer contacts me by Skype and does not seems to know why I call him to be a scammer. So has done it Sandeep Yadav too. He does not feel guilty for scamming others. For him is it nothing else than ecommerce and he does not feel himself guilty if the center gets nothing for their hard earned money. I call this kind of business understanding nothing else than scam, fraud, crime, etc.

That Sandeep Yadav is a chronic liar gets already shown at his profile in the section education. It seems that he is even too stupid to fake his own education. On December 18, 2015 I made a pdf-printout from the LinkedIn profile of Sandeep Yadav for my last scammer report ("Scammer: Sandeep Yadav - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosysos.com - does even not know what legal services are"). The pdf-file can get found here. There is written about his education:

Gujarat University
Bachelor of Commerce (B.Com.), Business, Management, Marketing, and
Related Support Services
2013 – 2019

k kaa shahtri comerce college
Master of Computer Applications (M.C.A.), 2013, B
2013 – 2015

While 2019 (we have now 2016) can get accepted as a type mismatch, I did not believe that someone can go working and make two different studies during the last semester of one of his studies. In his profile has been written that he has been working since January 2015 as project manager for the MNC group.

If we take now a look into the LinkedIn profile from Sandeep Yadav (.pdf), than we see there is written (Copy & Paste - it is not a type mismatch from me):

Gujarat Univercity
Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A
2011 – 2014

If we are comparing the data than we see that the Scammer does not know the dates he visited the University and he does not know which University he visited.

The scammer Sandeep Yadav seems to be so proud about his invented education, because this is the most important point in his Skype chat with me. First he complained that I have been calling him to be scammer and afterwards he immediately complained about my statement that he does not have any education. What can you expect from someone, which even don't know which University he visited?

Here is the full Skype communication with the scammer Sandeep Yadav from ACE Infosys. The provided time is GMT+1:

[22.02.2016 06:04:45] yadav sandeep: hello
[22.02.2016 11:23:06] *** yadav sandeep möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen

Hi Rudolf Faix, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[22.02.2016 11:24:12] *** Rudolf Faix hat Kontaktdetails mit yadav sandeep ausgetauscht. ***
[22.02.2016 11:24:31] Rudolf Faix: Hello
[22.02.2016 11:26:28] yadav sandeep: How are you sir ?
[22.02.2016 11:26:43] Rudolf Faix: Thanks, I'm ok
How are you?
[22.02.2016 11:26:55] yadav sandeep: I am good
[22.02.2016 11:28:18] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix you mentioned on Linked In that I am scammer , but i still not understood what scam i did ?
[22.02.2016 11:29:09] Rudolf Faix: Did you not follow the provided link?
[22.02.2016 11:29:45] yadav sandeep: as per that link you have mentioned that i am not Graduate .
[22.02.2016 11:30:16] Rudolf Faix: One moment, I'm searching for your name in the blog
[22.02.2016 11:31:05] yadav sandeep: As we do outsource all shorts of BPO
[22.02.2016 11:31:20] yadav sandeep: voice and non voice projects with reference centers
[22.02.2016 11:31:45] Rudolf Faix: I got it already you made from the online shoe and apparel provider an airline
[22.02.2016 11:33:44] yadav sandeep: revently we got new campaign of Zappos ,that is US based company for E commerce
[22.02.2016 11:34:09] yadav sandeep: and they are starting to give customer support for Airlines
[22.02.2016 11:34:33] yadav sandeep: and in that process we are charging the consultancy from the Advance billing
[22.02.2016 11:34:55] yadav sandeep: So Mr. Faix now tell me what scam we are doing ?
[22.02.2016 11:35:21] Rudolf Faix: Your company is ACE infosys?
[22.02.2016 11:35:48] yadav sandeep: Yeah
[22.02.2016 11:37:26] Rudolf Faix: Zappos Airlines Inbound Voice process
Shipping BPO Non Voice process
Axis Bank
Topbuy.com.au
are all scam campaigns
[22.02.2016 11:38:15] yadav sandeep: You know what is Axis bank process ?
[22.02.2016 11:38:22] Rudolf Faix: Not one campaign is possible by the law of the outsourcing countries
[22.02.2016 11:38:30] yadav sandeep: that checque collection process in India
[22.02.2016 11:38:37] Rudolf Faix: Not one bank is able to outsource some inbound process
[22.02.2016 11:39:47] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix Axis bank process is not Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:40:11] yadav sandeep: that is Checque collection from the Cheque drop boxes
[22.02.2016 11:41:03] Rudolf Faix: Your offer is non voice process for BPO centers
[22.02.2016 11:41:15] yadav sandeep: yes we are
[22.02.2016 11:41:32] yadav sandeep: As we have Aircel Form Filling
[22.02.2016 11:41:49] Rudolf Faix: Which barcode do you like to handle in the shipping BPO non voice process?
[22.02.2016 11:41:51] yadav sandeep: Aircel is leading telecome company in India
[22.02.2016 11:42:26] Rudolf Faix: I have not listed an Aircell campaign
[22.02.2016 11:42:47] yadav sandeep: i am talking at presently we have this one.
[22.02.2016 11:43:26] yadav sandeep: Apart from this we have PF form filling (Providand Fund)
[22.02.2016 11:44:40] Rudolf Faix: I have listed an Airline "Zappos", a barcode shipping process, non voice voice form filling process with no target :), the axis bank, topbuy.com.au
[22.02.2016 11:46:13] yadav sandeep: Zappos Inbound as i said this is not Airline Company they will provid ticketing service to the customer

The promotion for this campaign looks a little bit different than Sandeep Yadav tries to explain now:

If the campaign has been a real one why ACE Infosys has deleted this campaign immediately as my article "Scammer: ACE Infosys - aceinfosysos.com - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosys.co.uk - Niraj Shah" got published? I will not delete an article or a posting if I know that the provided information is true. Even if the information is wrong, than I'll write an update with an excuse and the correct information and strike through the wrong information.

[22.02.2016 11:46:25] Rudolf Faix: In December got listed a Dell inbound project, ADVANCE AND DAILY BILLING WITH INBOUND PROCESS, DIRECT SIGN UP
[22.02.2016 11:46:56] yadav sandeep: Yes we were having Dell Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:47:12] Rudolf Faix: https://blog.wwpa.com/post/2015/12/19/scammer-sandeep-yadav-viral-pithadiya-aceinfosysos-com-does-even-not-know-what-legal-services-are
[22.02.2016 11:47:41] yadav sandeep: there is a Client In India who is already running Dell Non voice and with good performance he got Voice campaign to run
[22.02.2016 11:47:53] Rudolf Faix: ou can download there the pdf file of your own posting
[22.02.2016 11:48:22] yadav sandeep: But he was not able to run that campaign and he outsourced it as a Authorised vendor

Wow, a center, which is not able to run a campaign, can forward/resell this campaign from a big U.S. company, which lets make their contracts from their own attorneys. I think more that the center owner did not read his own contract for the case the campaign existed.

[22.02.2016 11:48:58] yadav sandeep: Viral Pithadia is our web developer

With this message Sandeep Yadav is confirming how much he has learned at the University for his "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A", but I'm sure for this is the University from Gujarat guilty and not he by himself. Only unsuspecting people let registering their domain in the name of some staff. Viral Pithadia is the owner of the domain. If ACE Infosys fires Viral Pithadia than they are losing their domain together with their staff.

[22.02.2016 11:48:59] Rudolf Faix: Sure, because this process does not exist.
[22.02.2016 11:49:25] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix we have all the proofs.
[22.02.2016 11:49:47] yadav sandeep: and running Center In Banglore (India)
[22.02.2016 11:50:13] Rudolf Faix: You only need to take a look at the consumer protection law of the different countries and than you'll see that such a process is not possible by law-
[22.02.2016 11:51:37] yadav sandeep: You have also listed Axis Bank process ?
[22.02.2016 11:51:43] yadav sandeep: so what about that ?
[22.02.2016 11:51:56] yadav sandeep: its not Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:52:20] Rudolf Faix: Yes, banking data are especially protected. No bank likes to run into bankruptcy
[22.02.2016 11:52:50] yadav sandeep: its not to bankruptcy
[22.02.2016 11:53:13] yadav sandeep: Its Cheque collection from the Drop boxes.
[22.02.2016 11:53:39] Rudolf Faix: They will run into bankruptcy as soon the people get it that their data are getting stolen or misused
[22.02.2016 11:53:40] yadav sandeep: and Bank is paying INR 250 for per drop box
[22.02.2016 11:54:12] yadav sandeep: there is no need to use data in this process

Sure there are no data in this process. The data written on the cheques are public data and you can copy it everywhere. It does not matter if a few cheques are missing or someone gets access to the giro accounts as he knows already the account numbers and the names from the cheques. A bank, which offer such a work will run into bankruptcy before she can pay the outsourced center. Not one customer will have trust into such a system.

[22.02.2016 11:54:15] Rudolf Faix: The same way like Zappos is an airline?
[22.02.2016 11:54:56] Rudolf Faix: Checks are the same like money. For this purpose each bank has special security rules.
[22.02.2016 11:55:18] yadav sandeep: In Zappos also no need to use Data its ticket window and ticketing counter like make my trip.

I see how the scammer Sandeep Yadav understands the travel business: Everybody knows that he does not need to provide personal details and credit card information when he is booking a flight. For this reason the airplanes are all empty because the passengers need not provide any payment at the time of booking. For this reason the travel agencies are overbooking the airplane by selling each seat 5 times. If more people are coming to the departure than have place in the airplane the airline simple takes another unused airplane out of the hangar, take the next free grew, make the pre-flight check (which is done within a few minutes), fill some kerosene and start without any flight registration with the remaining people to the same destination.

[22.02.2016 11:56:11] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix Axis bank process sign up we are doing into the Head office of bank in India.
[22.02.2016 11:56:22] Rudolf Faix: Sure an online distributor for shoes, clothing and accesories
[22.02.2016 11:56:40] yadav sandeep: its Ecommerce company

With this statement has confirmed Sandeep Yadav, a "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A", that he even don't know the meaning of the word e-commerce (WikiPedia).

[22.02.2016 11:57:19] Rudolf Faix: Zappos has only made a joint venture promotion at the airport of New York with Jetblue. That has been a marketing gag and not more
[22.02.2016 11:58:26] Rudolf Faix: If you not believe me than go to http://www.zappos.com/
[22.02.2016 12:01:19] Rudolf Faix: Here you'll find the source about their marketing gag http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-airline-passengers-getting-some-love--001-photo.html
[22.02.2016 12:03:07] Rudolf Faix: http://deliverbliss.com/zappos-airlines-a-first-class-ticket-to-customer-experience/
[22.02.2016 12:05:25] Rudolf Faix: As you are offering campaigns, which are not existing and like to take upfront fees, how would you call yourself in this case?
That is scam, fraud, crime
[22.02.2016 12:07:39] yadav sandeep: No Mr. Faix we are always doing the contract that if due to any reason the process not would be there will refund your money
[22.02.2016 12:08:27] yadav sandeep: and we are doing veryfication personally after that only we are outsourcing
[22.02.2016 12:08:54] yadav sandeep: maximum we preffer to outsource the process with reference center.
[22.02.2016 12:09:24] yadav sandeep: where you can check thier payment proofs and all things but with some procedure.
[22.02.2016 12:11:10] Rudolf Faix: It is very simple, you are offering something what does not exist. Others are forwarding me their complaints and I make the background check. If the background check is negative than it will result in an article about the scam.
[22.02.2016 12:12:51] Rudolf Faix: That not all get their money back can get read at:
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/bycompany/ace-infosys-ahmedabad-a408272.html
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-ahmedabad-fraud-amp-scam-company-c1220141
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-ace-infosys-from-ahmedabad-are-fraud-people-c1209262
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-b113440
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-freelance-job-c1159210
[22.02.2016 12:14:47] yadav sandeep: that all is false.

This complaint is only solved because a wrong company got complained. aceinfosys.com, a leading Medical Service Provider company based in California, USA got complained.

Sure we all know it. If it is written about themselves is it all only a defamation. As soon as something is gets written about someone other than it needs to be true! That shows that the education has stopped in the pre-kindergarten area of Sandeep Yadav and his partner in crime Chhaya Sharma:

[22.02.2016 12:14:58] yadav sandeep: we have agreement with them
[22.02.2016 12:15:13] yadav sandeep: they took process and unable to complete that work
[22.02.2016 12:15:35] yadav sandeep: and after completing 2-3 months they are saying need money back
[22.02.2016 12:15:43] yadav sandeep: tell me how its possible
[22.02.2016 12:16:03] yadav sandeep: we are consultant not taking complete money in our pocket
[22.02.2016 12:16:30] yadav sandeep: and if you are not able to complete that work so that is not our folt.
[22.02.2016 12:17:05] yadav sandeep: we have lots of proofs of we made payment to them for whatever they worked.

Sure Mr. Sandeep Yadav, everybody will believe you that the center has been so much thankful that they have written how thankful they are into the Complaint Board. For example is one complaint, which show the kind of payments you have done and which proves you have:

whatever the projects they outsource it’s all fake projects, they charge money too much and they will rotate that money for payments by 10% in the amount what we paid and they won’t respond at all

and

This company has cheated me of 1, 50, 000 for three seats in freelance adposting job saying daily payments. its been over months n i have recieved just bits and pieces of payment, there is a problem while posting, no body is there to provide a solution.

Already these two messages are showing the kind of scam, which ACE Infosys is running. Additonal likes the scammer Sandeep Yadav making us to believe that ACE Infosys is playing man-in-the-middle. For the case that they are really reselling campaigns, what I don't believe, are they guilty by themselves for not verifying their source and are for this reason a partner in crime of the scammer. It does not make any difference if they are the partner in crime or the criminals by themselves. In any case they have broken their commercial duty of diligence. I know for this is again the University from Gujarat guilty, because they did not teach it to the scammer with the "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A". Remains only the question how the University of Gujarat could teach him this business law as the scammer has never visited any University?

Not the centers are not able doing the work on the invented campaigns, the scammers are using a little bit from the upfront fee and let the centers doing something and make a statement that the work got done with too many failures. It is nothing else than a crime!

[22.02.2016 12:18:21] Rudolf Faix: That is your statement and the kind of your processes are all against the consumer protection law. It fits all so nice together
Even with your own words in this conversation: Zappos Inbound as i said this is not Airline Company they will provid ticketing service to the customer
The problem is only that they are even not dealing with tickets
[22.02.2016 12:20:02] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix you should learn more about Zappos.
[22.02.2016 12:20:28] Rudolf Faix: What do you like to teach me about Zappos?
[22.02.2016 12:21:03] Rudolf Faix: Do you like to teach me that travel data are not protected by law?
[22.02.2016 12:22:32] Rudolf Faix: Have you ever read the U.S. Consumer procetion law? Do you know that for each misused record Zappos will pay US$ 16,000 fine? Where are they able to save something by outsourcing?

At this point the scammer Sandeep Yadav from ACE Infosys seems to have been running out of arguments because he did not reply me until now. It looks like that Sandeep Yadav believes that his scammer income will go down because he made the following posting for a new pyramid system:

The site cashpackets.com got registered 55 days ago (Creation Date: 2015-12-27T15:36:00.00Z), is using a privacy protection service and the most visitors are coming from Russia and Ukraine. The only work you need to do is to promote the site for getting new members. Conclusion: Nothing else than a new pyramid system, cheap, quick and dirty programmed as even the FAQ page is not working.

Older reports about ACE Infosys - Sandeep Yadav:

 

Anatomy of a scam - Sun Edison Inc. - Richard Doyen - Emmanuel Salamat (Logan) - Reginald Alexandre

As there a few people which are playing man-in-the-middle is it not easy to discover the real start of the scam. The chain is running from Sun Edison Inc. via Richard Doyen (USA) to Emmanuel Logan (Pakistan) to Reginald Alexandre (USA) until the campaign reach the call center located again in Pakistan. All involved parties have a reason to scam and to use the workforce from others without paying them:

  1. Sun Edison Inc.
    The shares from Sun Edison Inc. getting traded at the New York Stock Exchange (Symbol: SUNE). Sun Edison Inc. is calling themselves:

    SunEdison Inc is a developer and seller of photovoltaic energy solutions, an owner and operator of clean power generation assets. The Company is also engaged in the development, manufacture and sale of silicon wafers to the semiconductor industry.

    By expanding the news from the New York Stock Exchange a lot of investor alerts and calls from attorneys for a class action lawsuit against Sun Edision Inc. are getting found. Investors have lost a lot of money with Sun Edison Inc. Examples for these calls for a class action lawsuit are getting found at Business Wire articles from February 1, 2016, November 12, 2015 and Barron's Tech Trader Daily.

    A call center which is working for a company like Sun Edison Inc. needs to use normally the name of the client and not allowed to say that they are calling from a company with a name like "Home Solar Experts". Hiding the real company name makes only sense if the company Sun Edison Inc. has something to hide.

  2. Richard DoyenRichard Doyen, NJ
    More suspicious to be a scammer is Richard Doyen. He is nothing else than a simple junior salesman at Sun Edison Inc without any previous sales experience. In his LinkedIn profile (.pdf) he is titling himself since June 2015 to be a "Residential Energy Consultant at SunEdison". Any information about a energy or technical background knowledge is in his LinkedIn profile missing. He writes by himself about his job at Sun Edison Inc.:

    SunEdison is the number one renewable energy company in the world. My responsibilities are to facilitate solar sales for qualified home owners in New Jersey. I am building the outside sales force and implementing the SunEdsion culture.

    In the comment to my article Scammer: Reggie Alexandre - centers and others are not getting paid has Richard Doyen written:

    I came to know about this post by Emmanuel as he is working for me in NJ. I am a Residential Energy Consultant at Sun Edison and as far as the leads are concerned which Emmanuel sent me those where pathetic with bad quality. Emmanuel has already shared my feedback for those leads. I haven't payed any money to Emmanuel yet as we didn't get anything out of the leads he sent over. Emmanuel is good guy to work with as he delivers quality work, this is the first time I came across when his quality wasn't good. But he told me that he was moving to another place and he outsource the work to Reggie and further he outsourced it to zeeshan, so that's was the reason why quality wasn't good.

    The above comment got sent from:

    IP Address Country Region City Postal Code
     
    108.35.216.108 US New Jersey Maplewood 07040

    In the above comment is declaring Richard Doyen himself to be a scammer and a liar.

    The first lie gets already found in the comment where Richard Doyen is writing "I came to know about this post by Emmanuel as he is working for me in NJ." This statement is already wrong because Emmanuel Salamat also known as Emmanuel Logan is located in Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan. He is nothing else than "broker" for call center campaigns. He is not working in New Jersey, USA.

    Emmanuel Salamat / Emmanuel Logan has been commenting the article "Scammer: Reggie Alexandre - centers and others are not getting paid" from the IP address:

    IP Address Country Region City ISP
     
    119.153.149.155 Pakistan Punjab Rawalpindi Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited

    It is for a scammer easy to say without bringing up any evidence that the quality of the calls has not been good. That are doing other scammers too. I think more about the case that Sun Edison Inc. is even not knowing that they have hired a call center and that the junior salesman Richard Doyen (he has been at this time less than 6 months the salesman job and did not have any previous experience in energy sales at this time) had the idea to let others working for him.

    Richard Doyen provides at his LinkedIn profile the following career:

    • Assistant Restaurant Manager, September 2001 - September 2005, 4 years 1 month
    • U.S. Army, different jobs, January 2006 - January 2015, 9 years 1 month
    • SunEdison, since June 2005 until now, 9 months

    If we take a look at the previous career from Richard Doyen then the question "From where the sales experience shall come from?" is coming up. It seems that Richard Doyen likes to maximize his own earnings and he simple decided not to pay the peoples working for him.

    Here are some recordings from the generated leads. For data protection reasons I have only removed the personal data. The original files are still available:

      • Recording from November 25, 2015:
      • Recording from December 7, 2015:
      • Recording from December 9, 2015:

    What did the junior salesman Richard Doyen expect to get? Did he expect that the called ones will drop their hard earned money into his postbox? Maybe it is time for the scammer Richard Doyen to wake up from his bad dream?

    For Richard Doyen makes it more sense that the call center needs to name themselves "Home Solar Experts". In such a case he is avoiding complaints and call-backs to his company where his fraud would get discovered.

  3. Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel LoganEmmanuel Logan aka Emmanuel Salamat
    Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan had written on February 4, 2016: "I have paid reggie $300 for 10 approved leads from my own pocket for the lead generation and I have the proof of it with me". It is nice that he has the proof with him, but why did he not show us the proof? I think that the proof does not exist and cannot get shown for this reason.

    For me are there a few more questions still open:

    • Why shall Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan paying for leads from his own pocket? Has there something happened that he has mixed up some leads with other centers?
    • Why got now 10 of the "pathetic with bad quality" leads approved?
    • Why Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan is not knowing the agreement with the call center? There is written that each approved lead has the price of $55 and not $30! Is it another way for maximizing the earnings of the scammers? For me it seems that the scammers Emmanuel Logan and Richard Doyen are working very tight together.
    • Why Emmanuel Salamat should send some money to Reginald Alexandre located in the U.S. as he knows that the call center is located in his own country Pakistan? Would it not be cheaper from the bank transfer fees that he pays the center directly and send to Reginald Alexandre only his own portion of the payment?

    For Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan makes it only sense that the call center is calling with the name "Home Solar Experts" if he likes to trade the generated leads to different clients. In this case he would not have provided the name Sun Edison Inc. as client, but it can be that he is the partner in crime from Richard Doyen or Richard Doyen is his own invention. In any case is the IP Address from Richard Doyen's comment posting not from a proxy server.

  4. Reginald Alexandre / Reggie AlexandreReggie Alexandre aka Reginald Alexandre
    Reggie Alexandre has immediately provided the name of his upstream in the chain. For him is the same information about the company name, the call center is calling from, valid like for Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan.

    Emmanuel Logan has written in his comment: "I have paid reggie $300 ...". That means it has happened in the past. I had a Facebook chat with Reggie Alexandre on February 5, 2016. I have used this public provided information from Emmanuel Salamat for asking Reginald Alexandre. I understand his answer that he will forward the money to the call center as soon as he receive it.

    Here is a screenshot from the Facebook chat with Reginald Alexandre:

    Facebook chat with Reginald Alexandre

    Reginald Alexandre seems to have forgotten, that already a few people are already earning as the campaign have been already in Pakistan. He has been thinking he can make some additional money by bringing the campaign back to the U.S. and forward it again to Pakistan. For this reason he is a partner in crime with the other scammers.

In summary is the campaign nothing else than a scam campaign. The scam started with Richard Doyen and he find some helpers, which did not prove the provided information of the campaign. A junior salesman can even not sell something without a confirmation from a higher instance. It seems that Richard Doyen tried to enrich himself from the work of people living in a low wage country. The greediness from Emmanuel Salamat and Reginald Alexandre completed the scam.

That Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan is nothing else than a big liar gets shown by the fact that the promised $300 did not arrive at the call center in Pakistan until now. Emmanuel Salamat thinks that people are getting full from his empty promises.

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Reggie Alexandre (https://www.facebook.com/reggie.alexandre?fref=ts) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

 

Important information about non-voice processes (form filling, backoffice, etc.) and inbound campaigns

For all, which are still searching for non-voice processes and don't believe that there are no form-filling processes or backoffice work available, I like to give you an actual example for the reason why there are such processes available. The following text is a translation from a press release distributed by the dpa (German Press Agency):

In the so-called "Swissleaks" affair, where client data from the HSBC Private Bank in Geneva got forwarded to authorities from a former HSBC employee, the employee got sentenced to five years.

The judgment of the Swiss Federal Criminal Court in Bellinzona was issued on Friday due to industrial espionage. From further allegations, including breach of commercial confidentiality, the 43-year-old was acquitted. The former employees of HSBC Private Bank, a subsidiary of the British HSBC, had thousands of customer information leaked to the authorities in France. The Bank had spoken of theft and given the loss of data of up to 24,000 customers.

The process was determined by the question of whether the man was an honorable "whistleblower" or an unscrupulous con artist. Based on its data, many celebrities were advised as potential tax evaders in the focus of investigators worldwide. It could not be clearly demonstrated that for the transfer of stolen client data also money flowed.

As you could read above an employee has forwarded customer data to the authorities. Even forwarding data to the authorities is forbidden by law. Think now: Why someone should give you some data and go to jail for it or get high fined? Do you really think that you are more trustfull than government authorities? In this case you should stop taking drugs.

If you are writing into an email or a chat the lie that you had such a process already than you get classified from a real broker as a liar and you'll are getting no information about any available process. Making business is based on trust and nobody can build up trust with someone which is lying. You are even confirming in such a case that you don't have any skills for leading a center.

Fact is that you'll not find any inbound campaign because not one client will give you access to his data. The fines for breaking the data protection law are very high (U.S. $16,000 per record, Europe € 50,000 - € 58,000 per case). One famous case has been AT&T which has paid a fine of $25,000,000 for 280,000 stolen customer records during an outsourcing process. At this time the fines have been cheaper. So why should any client take the risk for getting fined? Normally a broker gets paid from the client who has hired him. As there is no client available the scammer has no other possibility to get money as by selling his dream campaigns to centers.

As you'll find in the social networks offers for non-voice processes and inbound campaigns only against a huge up-front fee is confirming already the scam. It does not make any difference how the fee is getting called. Every work, which is only available against a fee, is nothing else than a SCAM!!!

If you are getting scammed by someone with such or a similar process then you are guilty by yourself because you have been too lazy to inform yourself if the process is possible or not. Your own greed and laziness let you believe that the scammer is trustworthy. In this case you can complaint the scammer and your own stupidity.

If you don't believe the above than use Google and search for "Swissleaks".