Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

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What can happen if you are using a picture from the Internet for your profile - FUNNY

I found an offer for a campaign on Facebook, where the typical words for a SCAM (limited seats only) have been written. I dropped my standard comment at this posting.

I did not need to wait a long time and I got a reply from Amrin Khan. There she had written: "and the things you are commenting is even spoiling the real people also". This reply has been the reason to take a closer look into her profile.

A Google image search brought two videos and 291 pictures. I did not need to search a for a long time and found her profile picture at a site bangalore.localnexo.in where she offered herself as "LOW PRICE GIRLS IN BANGALORA"

 

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones

LinkedIn offer from Amrin Kahn

low price girls in bangalora offer from localnexo - same profile picture as the LinkedIn offer

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link to the Facebook profile Amrin Khan (https://www.facebook.com/mehevish.khan) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

 

Analyzing the sage.co.uk SCAM – avoid to get scammed this way

Yesterday I got an email with the content that sage.co.uk or staff from them is scamming center owners. As Sage is a big software company from UK I did not believe it. Why should a big company be in need to take a few thousands or Pounds from center owners?

The content of the email has been:

I got Cheated by person called Sameer Ahuja , Ranveer swamy and Leisa Dorcherty , In the name of Business they took $ 490  Fraudulently and Now they are not receiving call and not replying mail also I filed a complaint in Near by Police station , 
sameer Ahuja  Skype id : sameer.sage-inc  , Mobile Number (Office ) - 00447509754621 , (personnel) - 00447509756623

Ranveer Swamy skype id : ranveer.sage-inc
Leisa Dorcherty skype id : leisa.sage-inc
Account number which they have given
Bank Name : State Bank of India
Name: Ranveer Swami
Account no.- 20176913465
IFSC code: SBIN0001161
Branch- IIT Kanpur

Let us verify the data, which seem to be true of this scam.

If someone calls you and he is transmitting his caller id, then it is possible to call him back. If the same person picks up the call than you have at least a phone number, which can get verified. In our case it is a little bit difficult, because the UK data protection act don’t let you make a reverse phone lookup.

Under the UK's data protection act, reverse phone number lookups are against the law. There are however a couple of options, depending on your situation.

If you are receiving nuisance calls, then you should contact your phone provider and lodge a complaint. Should the problem persist, then contacting the police is an option.

Only the area can get located where the call comes from. In our case is it a mobile phone from the area of Jersey.

By having the phone number and the location we find the first reason why the scam is not from Sage. Jersey is in an Island in front of the coast of France. It belongs to the UK territory. Sage is located in Newcastle upon Tyne. If we use Google maps and let us calculate a route, than we see that the shortest route is 781 km and it takes around 11 hours to drive the route without respecting the possible traffic and resulting traffic jam. Nobody will drive to his workplace this distance. On the other side nobody will use a mobile phone from an area, which is around 800km away from his home or workplace and where he needs to use even a ferry going to the island.

The office and the private phone numbers are mobile phone numbers.  A big company like Sage has a land line phone number for their office. They are not using mobile phones for their office.  Manager from a company with the size of Sage will not give you their private phone number. Leisa Docherty is a manager from Sage.

Additional to the reason that you need not pay in Europe for getting some work you can easily verify such offers, which are coming from such companies. Sage has published some phone numbers at their website the offer can get easily verified if you are calling one of their phone numbers. If you have really a contact with one of the manager, then you will be able to pass the gatekeeper.

The next information which seems to be true is the bank account number, because the scammer likes to get the money. The name can be already a fake. It is the age of electronic transactions. For this the name will not get verified during a transaction from the bank as long as the account number is correct.

A company like Sage will every time use their real bank account and not a private account from someone in India. The reason for this is the strict tax law in Europe. Each company need to have a correct financial bookkeeping, which gets verified from time to time from tax officers of the government.

The only possible way to catch the scammer is over their phone number and their bank account.  In our case it the scammer located in India, because the bank account is there. The phone number gets simple forwarded by Voice over IP to any place in the world. Don’t let yourself get fooled bank accounts are normally in the same area where the company is registered. With the usage of electronic banking you have access to your bank account all over the world. For this there is no reason to have a bank account abroad if you have not an affiliate in the country abroad.

All other information cannot get verified. The LinkedIn accounts could got hacked and everybody can chose his Skype ID how he likes to name it. There is no verification for company names by creating an account. Each free combination can get chosen.

Companies are using for their contracts their own registered domain names for sending and receiving emails. Only people, which have something to hide, are hiding themselves by using freemail accounts. Companies, which are using official such freemail accounts have listed them on their homepage too.

The only criticism that can be made sage.co.uk is that they do not respond to emails. Apparently they do not care that criminals are using the name of SAGE. A company that not even not care about the crime, where her name is used, will not take care of the interests of their clients. This is the sign of today's society. Everyone cares only about their personal profits and the profit of their shareholders.

The scammer are speculating with the greed of the people. So don't see the proposed winning - take a look if you are not pay for get nothing!!! A good name in the offer does not guarantee something. Use your brain and make in each case a background check!!!

 

Centers go into direction quality – learn first to say “NO” to offers

This week I have found an advertisement at LinkedIn: 

Wanted Centers for PPI & PBA
We provide Data dialer with voips experienced and new centers are welcome. Thanks

 

As there has been no contact address given and his profile did not have any contact address stored, I have dropped my email address in the comments. As a reply I got the invitation for a Skype conversation. The guy has been from UK and seemed to be a direct customer, but he even did not remember his own advertisement. 

 

First he tried that we are using our own data for dialing. I explained him that we are only dialing with data provided by our customer and we are not reusing this data for other campaigns. It will not make us trustful using data from one customer for another customer’s campaign.

After an explanation about the difference in the quality of data coming from local agencies to these ones, which are getting traded between the centers and which are already heavy used, he dropped the message:

"We provide them profiled data and at the time of invoice we deduct the price of data that we provide center"

 

At this time i decided to drop the business and send him to other centers.

A call center is working for the customer. If the customer does not have data, then this data need to get bought by the customer. If a customer does not like to pay the data, which are getting used only for him, already, then the full business is it not worth to get done. The most good address broker are selling the data only inside their country. If a customer likes to bill this addresses and maybe his own stock of addresses to the call center, than he will find thousands of reasons too, for not paying his bills. I don't need such a kind of customer.

 

Call centers are service providers. They need to work with the material that they get provided by their customer. If the customer likes to get quality, than the customer has to provide quality too.

 

Who scammed whom? I recommend to all: Do NOT pay any upfront!

Today I have found a nice complaint at an offer from LinkedIn. It shows how the scammer are scamming each other. It seems like a normal business for them.

Found at: https://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=5899068376386396165&gid=3794594&goback=%2Enmp_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1#commentID_null

hemanth rao
BPO Projects Out Sourcer
hi shanu hru u nicely escaped and because of u company which u worked is suffering here and u changed mobile no twice nice bpo business ur doing baby....very soon chennai will catch u enjoy till that time......

hemanth rao
BPO Projects Out Sourcer
very soon chennai cops will catch u.... ur providing fake projects to companies.....dont worry ur time is up and chapter is close .....very soon other new centers who gives comments on ur posting they will also come to know how big cheater u are.......

Shanu Thomas
Business Development Manager
ha ha what a joke which company is suffering because of me and my mobile number i changed you try once again it will ring only and if i am fake means you also fake because i was taking process from you only right hemanth.and chennai cops have lots of work y they will catch me you ran from bangalore to hyderabad and what is this new joke you are creatingyou people dont have any other work or what.and dont worry now i am giving process to those companies only who from previously working with me and they are working properly

Shanu Thomas
Business Development Manager
if chennai are suffering means because of you and sai ugainder not because of me and please dont start again all that fun again here dont worry i am not going to take your centers

Alagiri srinivasan
Managing Director at AERO WEB TECHNOLOGIES
hemanth wat about that pradeep process pdf to doc conversion u guys wont give work load and qc report also wats going thr . sai from ardent told me you guys will going to refund the amount but when u will do that.

Shanu Thomas
Business Development Manager
No one will refund money I also given center they told they will refund but not yet and now they blaming others centers are suffering

 

My recommendation:

DON'T PAY ANY UPFRONT HOWEVER THE FEE IS CALLED!!!

 

 

A typical product, which is unsaleable: Timesharing

I got during the weekend the following email:

I’m one of your followers here in LinkedIn. We are a new call center here at the Philippines. We are currently dialing 2 outbound campaigns. But i think our current campaigns are not fitted for us. Our clients have positive feedbacks with our agents. But I think our income is not enough to cover our expenses.
We are currently dialing timeshare. For the month of January of the current year we had 60 confirmed appointments but only 14 showed up. Our expenses range for270k-300k. Income is not enough for us to grow. 

The problem is:

  • You’ll not find for this kind of vacations a lot of people.

  • Why should the people limit their self by making for the rest of their life their vacations at the same place?

  • Would you buy something what you use once a year?

  • If you rent a hotel room and have problem with the service, then you’ll change the hotel. With timeshare is this not possible.

  • If there is nature catastrophe or an accident, which makes the beach unusable, then you would not make in such an area vacations. If you have timeshare, you have to pay in any case.

  • If you like to make vacations at another place of the world, you’ll not save anything. Who knows what will happen the next minute. Why you shall make a decision now for the rest of your life?

  • What happens, if the timeshare company runs into bankruptcy? You lose your money or your value too.

 

Such a product will get bought only from some stupid people. Especially if they have time after saying yes on the phone until going there, they can inform themselves about the system. In such a case they will not show up for making the contract.

I can only say the call center owner is guilty by himself. Maybe he has seen only the amount of the commission and not the product.

BROKERS; YOU MAKE YOURSELF UNBELIEVABLE WITH SUCH PRODUCTS!

CALL CENTERS, IF YOU GET SUCH OFFERS WORK ONLY ON A HOURLY PAID RATE!