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What they could do wrong, they did wrong: Ishita Choudhary - amigosoutsourcing.com

Today I got an add request from Ishita Choudhary and as soon I have accepted her I got immediately an offer. In this offer has been written:

"We will be requiring your company profile for the verification process. If company profile is not available then please provide us any scan copy of your photo ID proof (Aadhar Card / Pan Card / Voting Card / Passport copy / Driving License) with your current profile."

I have been looking at her profile. There I found an agency picture instead one of a real person and only a Google email address. So she hides herself in the anonymity of the Internet. The result for me has been that she has something to hide. How she can even think in this case that somebody will send her a copy of any document. Everybody need to think about identity theft in this case.

She sent me afterwards the address of her homepage (www.amigosoutsourcing.com [2016-02-25: Link removed as the domain already not exists]). I checked first the registry data about scamadviser.com. The result has been:

Alert Result: The owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
Alert Result: This website is 54 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: The website appears to be less than six months old

Afterwards I have been looking at their website. There has been written an address. This seems to be a fake address, because nobody registers his website with an anonymizer service and writes afterwards his real address at the webpage. Doing this does not make any sense.

For a domain, which is 54 days old is the counter shown at their website with 2110 visits and 4195 page views very high. Alexa gives the site a rank of 5 566 540 and a daily page view per visitor of 2. So they have started their counters with an initial value of 2000/4000.

Nobody shall trust such a "company" as long as they are not building up their reputation. As it seems to be normal for them to lie, it would be very difficult for them to build up an online reputation. Even the sentence "Amigos info services started building the ways since 2012.Later converted into Amigos Outsourcing." can be a fake because Google did not find anything historical about "Amigos info services". Changing the name after a few months until 2 years operations make them more suspicious than trustful.

Result: For the case they are a real company then everything what they could do wrong, they did wrong until now.

My LinkedIn mail communication with Ishita Choudhary from amigosoutsourcing.com:

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 03:17 (GMT + 1):

Hello Sir,

Hope You Are Doing Very Well!!

Ishita Choudhary(Business Development Executive)

Hello Sir,

Greetings for the day.

Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd

Amigos Outsourcing started building the ways for our esteemed clients since 2013. In December 2014, Amigos Outsourcing converted from Partnership firm to Pvt. Ltd Company as Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd is the leading BPO company in Jaipur, Rajasthan. We believe in innovation and quality services and serves the finest & well-known domestic & an International clients. We focus on complimenting offshore call center outsourcing with an internal improvements that increase the efficiency and profitability of our clients Stakeholders.

Currently we have projects like :

  • Matrimonial form filling (Offline)
  • Southern E-bill form filling (Offline)
  • Resume writing (Online)
  • Business Directory (Online)
  • E- Book Publishing (Online)
  • Publisher Data Form Filling (offline)

We will be requiring your company profile for the verification process. If company profile is not available then please provide us any scan copy of your photo ID proof (Aadhar Card / Pan Card / Voting Card / Passport copy / Driving License) with your current profile.

After getting the company profile and approval is done, commercial details will provided immediately.

Please do the needful.

It would be our pleasure to work with you.

Hoping for the positive response.

Thanking you.

For More Details:

Skype:ishita.choudhary5

Mail:choudharyishita89@gmail.com

 

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 03:35 (GM+1):

Hi Ishita

If you like to verify someone, then you cannot hide yourself in the anonymity of the Internet. I think more that you have a reason why you hide yourself behind a agency picture.

Take a look at my homepage at http://www.wwpa.com. There is listed what and at which condition we are working.

Unlike you, I do not need to hide myself and I can use my real name and my own picture in my profile.

Read first this: http://fraud-systems.wwpa.com/post/identity-theft and if you don't believe me than go directly to https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-fraud-schemes/identity-theft

best regards

Rudolf

 

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 03:53 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

Thanks for your Advise.

We are not hiding our identity.we have genuine process.

you can visit our website.

www.amigosoutsourcing.com

and you can take to chance work with us..

 

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 03:58 (GMT+1):

Hello Ishita

How you call this if you are not calling it hiding:

Alert Result: The owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
Alert Result: This website is 54 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: The website appears to be less than six months old

best regards

Rudolf

 

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 04:02 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

I know now dayz 99% scam does happen.

but you want to do business then make deal to someone trust them and after that if you found any fraud you can case them.

100% legal documents,pdc,bg we provide.

Thanking You

 

Rudolf Faix, February 12, 2015 04:12 (GMT+1):

Hello Ishita

As you are hiding yourself, nobody will send you any document copies. If you like to verify my business than you can take the information found at the link Imprint (https://blog.wwpa.com/page/imprint) and there you'll find at which office my company is registered ("Authority in accordance with ecommerce law: Bezirkshauptmannschaft Tulln").

You have:

  • a freemail address
  • a picture of an agency at your profile
  • a hidden registered domain
  • and you are less than 2 month in business

For this facts you have to prove your identity first!

best regards

Rudolf

 

Ishita Choudhary, February 12, 2015 13:26 (GMT+1):

Hello Rudolf,

i agree with you ,I am not forcing you to trust us.

have a nice day.

Thanking You.

 

Spamming at LinkedIn and similar websites

Yesterday I got an email from a spammer. A part of the content is:

"As for the spamming I also have a marketing background, spamming is a great form of advertising, everyone gets spammed in one form or another when you really think about, look at a car, it has its manufacturer's name on it, drive down EDSA or any of the main roads in Manila and you will see globe, Smart all spamming. Its how businesses survive, by pushing your name out there, it proves that you are a genuine business."

I don’t know from where he has this marketing background, but in Europe you learn already in the second grade, that a permanently repetition of the same content will get ignored from your target audience. Observe it by yourself. You are mostly driving the same way daily. How many of the promotions, which get seen on the road, you recognize really? How many promotions are you watching in the TV and how many times you use the time of the promotion shown in TV for doing something different, like take a fresh beer from the refrigerator, going to toilet, etc.?

For this the promotion agencies are developing every time new ideas for making the promotion different and distribute it on a different way. In USA the marketing agencies have already found a way that their promotion does not get directly into the trash box. They are offering coupons, where you can save something by buying the product. These coupons are getting collected from the people. The negative aspects of this form of marketing you can even watch it at the Philippines at the TV station "Travel & Living" by watching "Extreme Couponing".

LinkedIn knows about spamming too. At LinkedIn is it possible to block updates from a member. This is done by a link on the upper right side of each posting at the start page, where you can block the postings from this member. In such a case all posts don’t get shown from this member. I have used it already for two members. It works for me perfect. The disadvantage of this is that I’m not see some interesting posts of this members too, but with this I can survive. Others, which are not spamming, have interesting posts too.

Spamming proves only that the product cannot get sold and the spammer is searching for someone, which is stupid enough for buying it. It never proves that the company or the product is genuine. A real and authentic product gets sold by the first advertisement. 

 

Avoiding getting scammed - make a background check

Where ever business is done, fraudsters are not far away. You’ll get scammed if you have to trust to someone met over the internet.  Make in each case a background check of your future business partner.

If you get the offer by using a professional membership site like LinkedIn and the profile has no picture from a real person uploaded then forget the offer. You even need not continue using this script. The possibility that you got the offer from a scammer is in this case already 99%. Only scammers are in need to hide themselves in the anonymity of the Internet.

Start with the picture search if a picture of your business partner is provided. It is easy if you are using Google Chrome for browsing.  Put your mouse pointer over their profile picture and by doing a right click chose “Search Google for this image”.  If you don’t have this option then you can save the image at your local hard disk (right click at the image and chose “Save image as..” from the context menu). Afterwards you go open http://images.google.com, click at the camera symbol and upload your picture. Google is able to take a picture from an url too, but it has no access to some membership sites.

Don’t let yourself get fooled from the result set, because you will also get the same picture with the name from their followers on the social networks and even from similar pictures (googles computers are thinking that the picture is looking similar).

Try to find negative comments and the use of different names in the profile on other sites used for the person shown at the picture.  Most of the scammers are using pictures found at the internet, which are showing important persons or celebrities.

If your search has been negative until now, then continue with the real domain name of your business partner. Use the email domain or the link, which they have sent you. Use http://www.scamadviser.com for checking their domain reputation.  If the given postal contact address is not matching with the registered domain name or they are using an anonymizing service for the domain name, then your business partner has something to hide. Real companies are proud about their products and their name is their trademark. For this they will not hide themselves in the anonymity of the Internet. Only scammers are hiding themselves.

Locate the place or the area of the world from where they have sent you an email. For this you need to consult the documentation of your email client or you use Google to find out the way how to get the Internet email headers for your email client. In the Internet email headers is the way described which the email has taken. Simple copy the Internet email headers into the form shown at the free online tool found at http://mxtoolbox.com/EmailHeaders. You get a route list, which the email has taken on it way with the ip addresses.

You can check the location of this ip addresses by using the free site http://www.iplocation.net/. The location shall match the promoted location and country of your communication partner. Be aware, that the location can be the next larger city next to the address of your communication partner.

If you have did not find something negative about your new business partner, then you should continue with using Google search.

Google has few search options, which can help you to find something out about your new business partner. This search will take a lot more time. Search for the name of your business partner, the name of his company in all possible combinations.

Search with an exact phrase:
Put quotation marks around words "[any word]" to search for an exact phrase in an exact order. Keep in mind that searching with quotes might exclude relevant results. For instance, a search for "Alexander Bell" will miss pages that refer to Alexander G. Bell.

I use this function for searching names and domain names of my business partner. Especially by searching a specific domain name is it very helpful. Scammer sites are getting very fast documented by others and you are able to review their comments.

Search within a specific site:
Precede your query with site: if you know you want your answer from within a specific site or type of site (.org, .edu). For example: site:edu or site:nytimes.com.

As you can search inside a specific site, you can exclude specific sites, by excluding them. To exclude them from the result set you need only put a dash in front. Example -site:linkedin.com for not listing all the contacts from LinkedIn

Find related pages:

Use the related: operator to find pages that have similar content by typing related: followed by the website address. For instance, if you find a website you like, try using related:[insert URL] to locate similar websites.

In any case, even if you did not find out something bad about your new business partner, you should take the lowest possible risk for making business. Sorry, but a perfect instruction for not getting scammed is not available. Think every time that even companies cannot give you money for doing nothing. Every offer, which seems too good to be true, is only scam. So don't turn off your brain if you get a very good offer. Don’t get greedy. One side wins in each in each business, which is done. It is the seller - otherwise he would not sell it.

Other Fraud Warning Sites

A list of proved scammer can get found in the menu entry Scammer Exposed.

Offers from trusted and validated brokers can get found in the menu entry Fair Campaign Offers.

 

A translation of a promoted call center campaign at LinkedIn

Recently I found a call center campaign at LinkedIn, which has been looking good at the first view:

LOOKING FOR CENTERS FROM (INDIA, SOUTH AFRICA AND PHILIPPINES)

5 year old Tech Support Company based in Texas looking for "experienced" call centers to outsource our outbound tech support sales. We have centers in India working for us from more then 4 years and generating good profits.

Pay-out from $50 to $185 for per sale.

 

Analyzing the product:

The product is not really a bad idea. As the company is based in in a small city, with a population of around 40000 people, called Hurst in Texas, the local possibility for offering a computer service has not really a big chance. Remote service and support can be a possible income.

Negative aspects:

  • A remote service works only if the computer is still running and has a connection to the internet

  • It can be only a software service for optimization of the performance, virus removal (as long the virus is not blocking the Internet connection), spyware scan and malware removal.

  • The service is limited to Windows and Office

  • The offered service "Setup a new system" cannot get done from remote. A transport of the computer can result that the computer does not work when it arrives back to the customer. The reason is very simple: From the vibrations during the transport a card or a plug can lose the correct contact. For this is it better for the customer to visit a computer repair center locally.

  • The company exists already nearly 5 years. They are offering 4 different plans for home users and 2 different plans for business use. The monthly rate is with $15.95 the same for all plans. The initial price for home users varies from $195.95 until $349.95 only the contract time is different. At the website is no reason written why someone should make a contract for 3 years for $349.95 initial with additional $15.95 per month instead of a contract for 6 months for $109.95 + $15.95 monthly. The only difference is the initial price. What the benefits of the higher price and the longer contract time are is missing. Maybe they don't know it by themselves. In this case the telemarketer has no arguments to sell a higher priced plan.

  • Compare at Amazon the price of a new computer in the USA with the maintenance plan what the telemarketer should sell: a complete computer set including monitor, keyboard, mouse and Windows 7 is actually at Amazon for $160 (Dell) available. The setup can get done with the help of the Dell Hotline. An argument for the price is in this case really missing.

In sum is the product not really a runner. In the USA is it normally that the monthly price is coming less as longer as the contract is running.

 

I try now to translate this advertisement for you:

You need to know that the average call center agent in the USA gets $27000/year ($2250/month or $15/hour)..I have simple divided the yearly salary by 12 and the monthly salary by 150 hours like it is in Europe usable. This company is located in Texas, There is the average income for a call center agent even lower. It is there $26000/year, which makes a hourly rate of $14.45

The offered pay out from $50 - $150 per sale is looking at the first view good, but only on the first view.

Let's take the lowest offered commission per sale, which is $50. A one is not really realistic, because for this the arguments for selling it are already missing.

The company would be positive in labor costs if she would sell each 3 hours and 33 minutes one product per agent by having own telemarketers. The company itself does not believe in their own sales possibilities at such a rate. For this they try to find a call center from a low wage country, which even takes the risk of the product. Maybe the call center should even provide the data for the sales.

My opinion is that very good and very experienced agents will be able to sell in average one product per day as long as the marketing of the product will not get improved. If the marketing will reduce the sales price, the pay out per sale will go down too or the company will not be able to survive and pay you.

So centers think about how long can you work for $50. Maybe you sell one product per 10 hours per agent in average. Are you able to survive with this income?

The sentence "We have centers in India working for us from more than 4 years and generating good profits" is only promotion and for this I can say only: "Never trust a statistic which you did not fake by yourself"

 

Source offer: LinkedIn offer

Source product: www.fixmycomputerdude.com

 

Spam and scam with "FREE" eBooks

The most of this “FREE” eBooks are not really free. You have at least to drop your email address and mostly some more information about yourself. In the best case you get some usable information from the eBook, which is belonging to the general knowledge. In the most cases you only get a promotion for any other services or the eBook ends where it is coming interesting. There you find a link for continuing reading. If you click the link, you’ll end up at a pay site.

The result will be in any case that you get flooded with spam, because your data get traded together with the topic of the eBook. For this reason the scammer will know already in what you are interested. As more information you need to enter as higher will be the earning for your information.

So don’t forget, nothing is for FREE at the world. You have to pay with your personal data. This data are getting used to spam you and this data are getting sold. For this be AWARE from FREE eBooks. You pay in any way with your personal data for information, which you can get free from the Internet if you know how to use some search engines.

If something is free, then it will be written on a web site or it will be downloadable without any registration.

A few days ago one LinkedIn member even tried to earn money by using ad.fly for a self-compiled list of scammer. The greediness is endless from some people.