Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

I have described at my article Scammer: Apostotlebpo.In - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma how the centers are getting scammed. Here I describe now the way how a scammer tries to get campaigns which he can sell to others without doing some work by himself. A lot of people are dreaming about such an income possibility.

His standard answer "Nobody is paying for shit leads" is nothing else than a self protection. If he would run a real business he would provide a list of the leads together with the reason why the lead is a bad one. As scammers are lazy and everybody can see it in the Skype conversations, which I had with Kshitij Tripathi during one year where he is even too lazy to forward any proofs. He even don't try to get his money back by using the authorities, which he says that he got scammed for. This fact shows that he has only invented the stories and is not able to provide any proof for anything.

After publishing this article Kshitij Tripathi tried to defend himself at LinkedIn. By commenting he has forgotten that he declared himself in the Skype communication with me to be nothing else than a liar:

Kshitij Tripathi

i have proofs of centers of your country ryan valenzuela those are working for me more than one year and they know i how i work still nothing matters lol, keep going i am enjoying

For the case that the above statement is not a lie for protecting himself (each proof is missing), then Kshitij Tripathi has lied in the following Skype communication with me, where he tried to make the impression of having a call center. In any case has Kshitij Tripathi confirmed that he is nothing else than a liar. A liar can never be a trusted business partner.

The following Skype communication with Kshitij Tripathi aka KT Robby (Skype: kt.robby) shows the way how he likes to get campaigns for his man-in-the-middle "business". The problem is only that he even don't know how a call center business is functioning and he repeats the same invented story again and again. He thinks that he can even sell some scammer stories to me. It seems that he even don't know that I need only to open the website from LinkedIn or Facebook and pick any random offer to get a source for a new article about a scammer. He has been even too lazy or not able to send me any proof for his stories, which he repeated every time he contacted me on Skype.

[26.04.2015 03:51:53] KT Robby: hello
[26.04.2015 03:51:54] KT Robby: sir
[26.04.2015 06:46:22] *** KT Robby möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen

Hi Rudolf Faix, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[26.04.2015 06:58:18] *** Rudolf Faix hat Kontaktdetails mit KT Robby ausgetauscht. ***
[26.04.2015 08:03:33] KT Robby: hey
[26.04.2015 08:03:58] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[26.04.2015 08:04:17] KT Robby: morning sir
[26.04.2015 08:04:20] KT Robby: i am good
[26.04.2015 08:05:43] KT Robby: well i am looking for campaign just to extend my business, right we are running us based outbound campaign
[26.04.2015 08:06:28] Rudolf Faix: I'm not a campaign broker. I only put scammer on the grill and good offers into the spotlight
[26.04.2015 08:06:39] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:06:44] KT Robby: sorry abt dt
[26.04.2015 08:06:59] KT Robby: so any NPO is in your contact
[26.04.2015 08:07:49] Rudolf Faix: Take a look into my blog there you can find some details including contact details in the menu "Fair business partners"
[26.04.2015 08:07:55] KT Robby: i know a sacam,er , u wanna catch him
[26.04.2015 08:08:27] KT Robby: its will be biggest scam of usa
[26.04.2015 08:08:38] Rudolf Faix: If you can document the scam, then you can forward the proves to my email rudolffaix@gmail.com
[26.04.2015 08:09:48] KT Robby: hez running long distance business from silv communication and saying to custome that i am calling from at&t and verizon and ur monthly telephone bills are going to be cheaper but its not like dt , customer got higher amount of bills
[26.04.2015 08:11:10] Rudolf Faix: That is the difference between promotion and reality. For this the customer needs to complain at the FTC
[26.04.2015 08:11:35] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:12:18] Rudolf Faix: I'm hunting this scammer, which are scamming the call centers.
[26.04.2015 08:12:53] KT Robby: wchich scammer
[26.04.2015 08:13:29] Rudolf Faix: Take a look at https://blog.wwpa.com/category/Scammer-Exposed
[26.04.2015 08:13:44] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:14:10] Rudolf Faix: There you have all my victims collected
[26.04.2015 08:14:20] KT Robby: alright
[26.04.2015 08:14:52] KT Robby: wat d best i can do i can give u d only rec of customer and agent
[26.04.2015 08:15:46] KT Robby: one recording when they will be saying to customer that nothing will be change nothing will be charge and in the other rec their international and long distance calls are going high
[26.04.2015 08:15:52] KT Robby: and its b to b campaign
[26.04.2015 08:15:59] KT Robby: very highlighted sam
[26.04.2015 08:16:03] Rudolf Faix: You see like I have documented the scam. So I need a link to their profile and to their offer. You should provide also the emais or skype protocols where you got scammed.
[26.04.2015 08:16:31] KT Robby: i dunn want my name plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[26.04.2015 08:17:28] Rudolf Faix: That can be made invisible. Take a look as I have made names invisible too at some screenshots.
[26.04.2015 08:17:53] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:17:58] KT Robby: any reward
[26.04.2015 08:18:24] Rudolf Faix: No, because I'm not earning something by putting scammer on the grill
[26.04.2015 08:18:39] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:18:54] Rudolf Faix: It is only my hobby and a revenge for a friend, which needed to close his center for getting scammed
[26.04.2015 08:19:44] KT Robby: here the client and the centre both are scamming customers
[26.04.2015 08:21:13] Rudolf Faix: I reach only centers and not the clients. The centers are mostly not knowing what they are selling and if the promises getting kept. In this case the only the client is responsible for his campaign
[26.04.2015 08:21:59] Rudolf Faix: The centers are only responsible if they could know about the scam. This is the case with the Windows Pop Up calls
[26.04.2015 08:22:21] KT Robby: i told u this rest of depend n you sir
[26.04.2015 08:22:29] KT Robby: its a veri big scam
[26.04.2015 08:22:39] KT Robby: i can send u d rec if u wants
[26.04.2015 08:22:43] KT Robby: dan u can think
[26.04.2015 08:22:54] Rudolf Faix: Please send me the details
[26.04.2015 08:23:17] KT Robby: okay
[26.04.2015 08:23:44] KT Robby: but plzzz centre owner knows me so i dunn need my name
[26.04.2015 08:24:19] Rudolf Faix: I'll hide your name in by publishing the scam
[26.04.2015 08:27:28] KT Robby: ok
[26.04.2015 08:28:00] KT Robby: so can u plz suggest any npo for this because its my aim to run a npo campaign plzzz
[26.04.2015 08:28:19] KT Robby: u can take it as a reward if u dunn mind,, sir
[26.04.2015 08:28:35] KT Robby: i know a guy may be u also know him
[26.04.2015 08:28:50] KT Robby: npo name is TELECARE
[26.04.2015 08:29:04] Rudolf Faix: As I have written before, take a look into the menu "Fair Business Partners" of my blog. What is published there is available.
[26.04.2015 08:29:57] KT Robby: ok
[26.04.2015 08:30:06] KT Robby: let me take a look , sir
[26.04.2015 08:30:08] Rudolf Faix: I did not find more then the offered campaigns there
[26.04.2015 08:30:59] Rudolf Faix: The contact details are in each article included
[26.04.2015 08:31:11] KT Robby: ok sir

Like I mentioned before, I did not get any email from him about the scam. For this reason is it for me only a fairy tale.

[27.04.2015 05:08:08] KT Robby: hello sir
[27.04.2015 05:08:39] KT Robby: thnak u for mopening my eyes , in was going to do business with jo soft technologioes with inbound campaign
[27.04.2015 05:08:42] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[27.04.2015 05:08:51] KT Robby: i am okay sir
[27.04.2015 05:09:37] KT Robby: did u scam jo soft technologoes .,, right
[27.04.2015 05:10:09] KT Robby: did u car-tch dam
[27.04.2015 05:10:09] Rudolf Faix: No. I reported them only
[27.04.2015 05:10:31] KT Robby: they ae offerine me for inbound campIGN
[27.04.2015 05:10:43] KT Robby: asking me 10 lakh money
[27.04.2015 05:11:00] Rudolf Faix: each upfront is only a scam
[27.04.2015 05:11:07] KT Robby: okay sir
[27.04.2015 05:11:15] Rudolf Faix: Take a look into my blog under scammer
[27.04.2015 05:11:22] Rudolf Faix: there you find them listed
[27.04.2015 05:11:23] KT Robby: i just look out
[27.04.2015 05:11:28] KT Robby: dts why i asked u
[27.04.2015 05:11:38] KT Robby: thanku so much i just addedc with u
[27.04.2015 05:11:50] KT Robby: otherwise i was losting my money
[27.04.2015 05:11:50] Rudolf Faix: you are welcome
[27.04.2015 05:12:26] KT Robby: hows kathy enteprises for time warner telecom to run b to b campaign for long distance
[27.04.2015 05:12:57] Rudolf Faix: Kathy sisks is a good broker
[27.04.2015 05:13:12] KT Robby: okay
[27.04.2015 05:14:04] KT Robby: can i deal with her
[27.04.2015 05:14:21] Rudolf Faix: Yes, there is no risk
[27.04.2015 05:14:43] KT Robby: thanku so much
[27.04.2015 05:14:51] KT Robby: i send u d rec.
[27.04.2015 05:14:57] KT Robby: give me ur mail id
[27.04.2015 05:15:11] Rudolf Faix: rudolffaix@gmail.com
[27.04.2015 05:15:25] KT Robby: send u wait
[27.04.2015 05:15:52] KT Robby: can u plz suggest kathy for campaign, trust me we can un good
[27.04.2015 05:16:23] KT Robby: its a big scam
[27.04.2015 05:16:35] Rudolf Faix: I have listed Kathy Sisks in the Fair Business Partners
[27.04.2015 05:17:04] KT Robby: company name is SILV communication, united telecom, they just outsorced the campaign in India
[27.04.2015 05:17:24] KT Robby: they are scamiiing usa people for the last 8n yeas
[27.04.2015 05:17:50] Rudolf Faix: OK, are they using the Kathy Sisk Campaigns?
[27.04.2015 05:19:13] KT Robby: noppp
[27.04.2015 05:19:22] Rudolf Faix: OK
[27.04.2015 05:19:28] KT Robby: they got personal long distance campaign
[27.04.2015 05:19:38] KT Robby: can i call u, if u dunn mind
[27.04.2015 05:20:20] Rudolf Faix: Here is it early in the morning and my family is still sleeping. It is 5:20am
[27.04.2015 05:20:42] KT Robby: okay
[27.04.2015 05:20:48] KT Robby: no issue , sir
[27.04.2015 05:21:08] Rudolf Faix: I don't like to wake them up. Later you can call me
[27.04.2015 05:21:20] KT Robby: right now i am working with MAKO Marketing LLC for Diabetics
[27.04.2015 05:21:31] KT Robby: can u plz tell me how sthey guys
[27.04.2015 05:21:40] KT Robby: clieny=t nam eis Omar Solari
[27.04.2015 05:21:45] Rudolf Faix: I don't know them
[27.04.2015 05:22:45] Rudolf Faix: You can check their offers by the provided list: https://blog.wwpa.com/post/scam-and-scammer-how-to-identify-them
[27.04.2015 05:25:03] KT Robby: but you make a update for kathy sisk for medical compensation for scameers
[27.04.2015 05:25:11] KT Robby: what does it means
[27.04.2015 05:25:49] Rudolf Faix: I did not make an update
[27.04.2015 05:26:05] KT Robby: ok
[27.04.2015 05:26:23] KT Robby: u can check
[27.04.2015 05:26:54 | Bearbeitet 05:27:09] Rudolf Faix: There is only a ping back for a link. 2 campaigns can get combined
[27.04.2015 05:27:36] KT Robby: ok
[27.04.2015 05:27:46] Rudolf Faix: Time Warner and Call Save USA can get combined
[27.04.2015 05:28:01] Rudolf Faix: Where do you see the update?
[27.04.2015 05:28:58] KT Robby: so i can work with kathy for time warner
[27.04.2015 05:29:07] Rudolf Faix: yes

In the above communication Kshitij Tripathi proofs that he is even not able to use Google for searching and verifying offers. He even has been thinking that I'll do it for him for the reason that he is too lazy for it. Instead of taking a look at the provided links he thinks that it easier to ask me for campaigns on Skype.

[06.05.2015 12:13:15] KT Robby: hello sir
[06.05.2015 12:13:16] KT Robby: der
[06.05.2015 12:13:47] Rudolf Faix: Good afternoon
[06.05.2015 12:13:56] Rudolf Faix: How are you?
[06.05.2015 12:14:08] KT Robby: i am doing great sir, what about you
[06.05.2015 12:14:23] Rudolf Faix: Thanks, I'm ok too
[06.05.2015 12:14:45] KT Robby: actually i just send an offical mail to kathy sisk regarding the campaign but still i ahvnt got any reply
[06.05.2015 12:15:27] Rudolf Faix: I have not more information from them as I have published
[06.05.2015 12:15:39] KT Robby: okay
[06.05.2015 12:15:58] KT Robby: any new updates for the genuine clients
[06.05.2015 12:16:17] Rudolf Faix: In this case I would publish them
[06.05.2015 12:17:38] Rudolf Faix: I see only that the NDA from Kathy Sisk got 150 times downloaded until now. That are a lot of requests
[06.05.2015 12:18:04] KT Robby: so i need to work with kathy, correct
[06.05.2015 12:18:30] Rudolf Faix: If you not find some better campaigns
[06.05.2015 12:18:53] KT Robby: ok sir
[06.05.2015 12:19:33] Rudolf Faix: I only list the good offers. I don't have anything from it.
[06.05.2015 12:20:55] KT Robby: tnku so much, i was just requesting you kindly if u can forward a mail from your side on the behalf of me for campaign so that will be my pleasure on working with kathy sisk and i will also help you in finding scammers
[06.05.2015 12:21:40] Rudolf Faix: I have no influence to Kathy Sisks
[06.05.2015 12:22:12] Rudolf Faix: or another person from my blog. I make this only for not getting bored during my retirement
[06.05.2015 12:22:39] KT Robby: ok but u know the point is that they are many appoinmnet for centres reach to kathy
[06.05.2015 12:23:02] Rudolf Faix: Yes, I know it from the downloads from my blog

Depending the on the way he tried to get campaigns from a real broker like Kathy Sisk Enterprises, he will get an answer or not. Normally are marketing agencies not entertaining some campaign brokers from abroad. There are so many call centers available, which are searching for some campaigns that there is no need to hire some people for reselling their campaigns. Campaigns are for call centers free of charge. There is no need to pay for someone, who is only additional announcing real campaigns.

[06.05.2015 12:39:42] KT Robby: hey
[06.05.2015 12:40:24] KT Robby: i ahve got a scammer , i am sendind details in your mail with there ip and everything, i just personally chat with her, she was trying to scam me
[06.05.2015 12:41:00] Rudolf Faix: ok, send it to rudolffaix@gmail.com
[06.05.2015 12:42:17] KT Robby: rfx53@gmx.at
[06.05.2015 12:42:23] KT Robby: sir this is your mail id
[06.05.2015 12:43:40] Rudolf Faix: you can send it to rfx53@gmx.at too
[06.05.2015 12:47:37] KT Robby: i just send u all the details in your rudolffaix@gmail.com check out
[06.05.2015 12:47:54] Rudolf Faix: ok
[06.05.2015 12:56:24] Rudolf Faix: Typical scam from Africa. In this case from Senegal
[06.05.2015 12:56:41] KT Robby: yup
[06.05.2015 12:56:44] KT Robby: from senegal
[06.05.2015 12:57:11] KT Robby: she was trying to scam asking for money
[06.05.2015 12:57:17] KT Robby: its a big one
[06.05.2015 12:57:46] KT Robby: actually my brother is working for indian cyber security
[06.05.2015 12:57:47] Rudolf Faix: This scam is already known since 20 years
[06.05.2015 12:57:53] KT Robby: okay
[06.05.2015 12:58:10] KT Robby: so we just report to cyber cell also
[06.05.2015 12:58:37] Rudolf Faix: Sure, you can report it where ever you like
[06.05.2015 12:58:58] Rudolf Faix: Mostly is sent from hacked email accounts

This time he got really a scam email, but this emails are getting sent out in masses and everybody on the Internet knows this kind of scam already and it did not have anything to do with call centers.

Now it is coming interesting:

[29.08.2015 05:39:46] KT Robby: hello sir
[29.08.2015 05:39:50] KT Robby: how are you
[29.08.2015 05:39:54] KT Robby: i need your help
[29.08.2015 06:34:28] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
Please write your questions
[29.08.2015 06:42:10] KT Robby: sir i was working with mako marketing lls and they tuk my $3515 and get sales of one and half month and blamed me that i am editing the calls
[29.08.2015 06:42:45] Rudolf Faix: Is mako marketing an Indian company?
[29.08.2015 06:42:51] KT Robby: i am really a poor boy any how i started my business just to take rent from my friendz so i was not aware of the rules of paypal
[29.08.2015 06:42:56] KT Robby: its usa company
[29.08.2015 06:43:30] Rudolf Faix: Real USA or only an US address?
[29.08.2015 06:43:44] Rudolf Faix: Check it with the IP addresses of the emails
[29.08.2015 06:44:13] KT Robby: so in the beginning paypal hold my payment so i thought no problem they told me to reverse the payment to the person to whom you are getting payment so i refund my four months payment and he took my whole payment az i make solution of getting payment
[29.08.2015 06:44:47] KT Robby: this is us company a famous company of boca raton , florida
[29.08.2015 06:44:59] KT Robby: omar solari and italo solari both are brothers
[29.08.2015 06:45:14] Rudolf Faix: I don't know this company, but you can file a complaint at the FTC
[29.08.2015 06:45:46] KT Robby: i reqiested him a lot that please refund my those payments wchich you already been paid but he started saying i am talking to my client and all rubbish and dan he blocked me
[29.08.2015 06:45:57] Rudolf Faix: Omar and Italo are not US names.Omar is Arabic. Italo I have never heard
[29.08.2015 06:46:00] KT Robby: you can search www.makomarketing .net
[29.08.2015 06:46:21] KT Robby: yes they are spainish and living in usa trust me
[29.08.2015 06:47:10] KT Robby: please help me because you are the only one who can help me ;; i want to amke a successful person but he stopped my dreams and everything finish
[29.08.2015 06:48:20] KT Robby: my family and no1 is supporting me only i know hw i am survivng ;; i reuuested hima lot that please refund my paymnet wchich you already been paid to em ;ll you already have tuk sales of one and half month dunn give me that payment but he denied and started telling me false promises
[29.08.2015 06:49:07] Rudolf Faix: one moment
[29.08.2015 06:49:40] Rudolf Faix: File your complaint at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
[29.08.2015 06:49:46] KT Robby: whenhe knews that now i got solution of getting $3515 dan on the next day he told me that you were editing the calls and started forcing mem
[29.08.2015 06:49:57] KT Robby: am i will be getting any response on this isr
[29.08.2015 06:50:00] KT Robby: sir
[29.08.2015 06:50:37] Rudolf Faix: You have only the chance to get the case solved if you are filing a complaint at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
[29.08.2015 06:50:56] KT Robby: okay
[29.08.2015 06:51:03] KT Robby: and you cnat do nothing
[29.08.2015 06:51:55] Rudolf Faix: I can only list them as a scammer. This will not bring your money back
[29.08.2015 06:53:05] Rudolf Faix: You need to send your proves to the FTC. They will make a decision on it. It is cheaper to file it by yourself to the FTC than to hire an attorney
[29.08.2015 06:53:16] KT Robby: but please list them they are millionaire one if they gave my little money nothing gone of dam ;; i know how much i work hard and they destroyed my dreams and due to dam
[29.08.2015 06:53:30] KT Robby: can i call you for a while sir
[29.08.2015 06:53:48] Rudolf Faix: My Internet is slow at the moment
[29.08.2015 06:54:02] KT Robby: ok
[29.08.2015 06:55:06] Rudolf Faix: This guy can help you too:
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[29.08.2015 06:55:41] Rudolf Faix: He is advertising "If an US client owns you money I can help"
[29.08.2015 06:55:52] Rudolf Faix: He helped already a few centers

For the case that he got really scammed from Mako Markeing LLC, then he did not make any background check about his client. In this case it seems that he has trusted only to the explanations from Omar and Italo Solari. Not one real millionaire will tell you that he is a millionaire. If he would have made a simple Google search he would have found at least one red flag about them in the Call Centers Forum:

User: JackJill
Date: 24-04-2014, 12:43 PM
I want to spread this info: Blacklist Mako Marketing LLC operated by Italo Solari and Omar Solari. These guys are fraud. They will not honor their payment obligations to call centers. Spread the word. The international call center community should be warned against them. Do not trust them. I will not waste my time with this if we were not defrauded by these persons. I just want to warn all other call centers who may be their current or future victims.

It seems that Kshitij Tripathi has been too lazy to make a simple Google search or too credulous.

It even does not help if he repeats his accusations if he will not send me any proof for the scam. Without any offers, links to offers and profile, copy of contracts, etc. I'll not do something, because the complaint can be a fake too and I don't let myself get used for a private war. I told Kshitij Tripathi already during August where he can get some help in his case. It seems that he did nothing because at the authorities he has to provide some proofs too. For this reason I think that he has the case only and tried to repeat his allegations in the month November:

[19.11.2015 22:52:36] KT Robby: hello
[19.11.2015 22:52:46] KT Robby: sir
[20.11.2015 06:01:30] Rudolf Faix: Good morning
How are you?
[20.11.2015 06:06:24] KT Robby: I am doing gr 8 si r
[20.11.2015 06:06:26] KT Robby: howare you
[20.11.2015 06:06:52] Rudolf Faix: I'm ok. Not one scammer tried to kill me until now. :)
[20.11.2015 06:08:11] KT Robby: ohhh
[20.11.2015 06:09:33] Rudolf Faix: From time to time I need some fresh meat for feeding the homeless cats here. Normally I'm putting a scammer on the grill for them. :)
[20.11.2015 06:09:43] KT Robby: ohhh
[20.11.2015 06:09:45] KT Robby: gr8
[20.11.2015 06:09:53] KT Robby: (nazar)
[20.11.2015 06:10:42] KT Robby: do you remember earlier I discussed to you regarding my payment dt I was scammed by usa client named omar c solari owner of mako marketing llc
[20.11.2015 06:11:07] KT Robby: recently he also scammed one more person as I know
[20.11.2015 06:11:25] KT Robby: dancho krisvim ; she discussed to you on behalf of me
[20.11.2015 06:12:18] Rudolf Faix: To write an article about him I need some facts like campaign offer, links to the offers, links to the profile, etc. You can send me these details to rudolffaix@gmail.com
[20.11.2015 06:12:31] KT Robby: ok sir thanks a lot
[20.11.2015 06:12:49] KT Robby: usually he works with 3-4 months and after dy he tuk payment and never send
[20.11.2015 06:14:10] Rudolf Faix: In this case would be copies about payments good too. and about the return request, etc. Everything which is documenting the scam is helpful
[20.11.2015 06:14:56] KT Robby: how he scammed me
[20.11.2015 06:15:31] Rudolf Faix: As more documentation I get from you as easier is it to write an article
[20.11.2015 06:16:30] Rudolf Faix: In the most cases I can see the scam already in the offer, but in some cases I need to get more. It depends on the kind of the scam
[20.11.2015 06:16:43] KT Robby: I was getting payment in my paypal account but anyhow paypal stopped my payment so the payment of whole 4 month was in my paypal account an dthe whle savings around $5000 and paypal toled me you have two options that either you need ot wait for 6 months dan automatically paymen will transfer to your bank account otherwise you can send the payment to the person whom you got
[20.11.2015 06:17:32] KT Robby: and as I send the payment in his paypal account he just said that you were making mistake sin calls and he tuk all my savings
[20.11.2015 06:17:50] KT Robby: and just due t him I am not able to stand up
[20.11.2015 06:18:01] KT Robby: he tuk my all savings
[20.11.2015 06:18:47] Rudolf Faix: The reader,, which are not involved into the details, need to understand it too.

The mail from paypal will help too in documenting the system.

Wh did you not wait the security time from paypal. Why you sent it back?
[20.11.2015 06:19:35] KT Robby: I needed of money cz there were many expenses so I thought I will transfer the funds into his account an di will us eothe rmode for getting the money
[20.11.2015 06:19:45] KT Robby: but he just tuk my whole savings ;; si r
[20.11.2015 06:20:32] Rudolf Faix: That has been to expect. If you are sure that you are right then never send some money back.
[20.11.2015 06:20:43] KT Robby: he is very rich person dan why did he do this ;;; nothing gone on taking my money but everything gone of mine
[20.11.2015 06:21:05] Rudolf Faix: Are you sure that he is a rich person?
[20.11.2015 06:21:14] KT Robby: he is miaalionair e
[20.11.2015 06:21:23] Rudolf Faix: You can even find beggars on the street in Florida
[20.11.2015 06:21:43] Rudolf Faix: You'll find there people sleeping on the street
[20.11.2015 06:21:45] KT Robby: mako marketing llc
[20.11.2015 06:21:56] KT Robby: ths is his company
[20.11.2015 06:22:21] Rudolf Faix: A company does not guarantee an income. You can create a company there for less than Us$100
[20.11.2015 06:22:23] KT Robby: he is running 300+ centres in world
[20.11.2015 06:22:33] Rudolf Faix: Have you verified it?
[20.11.2015 06:22:42] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:23:12] Rudolf Faix: Did you call all the centers and he has provided you the phone numbers?
[20.11.2015 06:23:30] KT Robby: yes I have his all the details sir
[20.11.2015 06:24:34] Rudolf Faix: I have in Austria around 2000 phone numbers free, which I can use. If you like you can call me too. Especially I'll enjoy if you are calling me on premium numbers. :)
[20.11.2015 06:25:20] Rudolf Faix: If you like to hear different voices - no problem I can switch you to different call center agent too
[20.11.2015 06:25:24] KT Robby: please help me sir
[20.11.2015 06:25:42] Rudolf Faix: Do you see how the scam works by this example?
[20.11.2015 06:25:49] KT Robby: you are th eone who can help me
[20.11.2015 06:25:53] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 06:26:23] Rudolf Faix: I have even phone numbers from the state of NY
[20.11.2015 06:26:31] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:26:41] KT Robby: so any solution for getting the money
[20.11.2015 06:26:58] Rudolf Faix: FTC - Federal Trade Commission
[20.11.2015 06:27:05] KT Robby: what they will do
[20.11.2015 06:27:12] KT Robby: there are many cases running on
[20.11.2015 06:27:17] KT Robby: one more will add
[20.11.2015 06:27:44 | Bearbeitet 06:28:07] Rudolf Faix: Your problem is only that you have sent the money back. That means you have agreed with the complaint to Paypal. So your chance to get the money back will be nearly zero
[20.11.2015 06:28:10] KT Robby: but I have prrof of paypal dt I sne dmoney to omar account
[20.11.2015 06:29:22] Rudolf Faix: He made a complaint to paypal. Paypal told him that he need to file a court case. For this they have locked the amount.
You sent the money back and for this he even don't need to file a court case
[20.11.2015 06:29:49] Rudolf Faix: You have given him the money and have accepted the complaint he made at paypal
[20.11.2015 06:30:07] KT Robby: he didn't made any complaint to paypal
[20.11.2015 06:30:25] Rudolf Faix: In this case paypal would not lock the amount
[20.11.2015 06:30:41] KT Robby: can I call you si r
[20.11.2015 06:31:06] Rudolf Faix: Paypal amounts are normally available after a few days you'll receive them.
[20.11.2015 06:31:16] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:32:09] KT Robby: I mean I have mail copies of the payment wchich I refund to omar account
[20.11.2015 06:32:17] Rudolf Faix: It does not bring anything to call me. I need to have first the documentation of the case. Without the documentation is everything I can say only speculation
[20.11.2015 06:32:44] KT Robby: he seriously killed me completely
[20.11.2015 06:32:52] KT Robby: just due to him I am not able to stand
[20.11.2015 06:33:00] Rudolf Faix: I have only explained you the right situation and how it is interpreted in front of law court when you send money back to someone
[20.11.2015 06:33:17] KT Robby: so I need ot file complaint to ftc
[20.11.2015 06:33:24] Rudolf Faix: For the situation now you are guilty by yourself
[20.11.2015 06:33:31] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 06:33:36] Rudolf Faix: You can file a complaint against him
[20.11.2015 06:33:52] Rudolf Faix: You can take a debt collector
[20.11.2015 06:34:02] Rudolf Faix: That are now your possibilities.
[20.11.2015 06:34:08] KT Robby: how I will get it
[20.11.2015 06:34:30] Rudolf Faix: The chance to get it will be very low because you sent the money back
[20.11.2015 06:35:15] Rudolf Faix: You would be in a better shape if paypal would have taken it back on his complaint
[20.11.2015 06:35:34] KT Robby: but I hve the proof of my paypal wchich I refund to omar paypal account the whole amount an drecs of paypal supervisor in wchich he said payment has been send to his account
[20.11.2015 06:35:59] KT Robby: can paypal take it back again from omar
[20.11.2015 06:36:02] Rudolf Faix: But with this proof you have accepted that you got the amount in an error
[20.11.2015 06:36:09] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:36:18] KT Robby: s I will be getting this paymen t
[20.11.2015 06:36:20] Rudolf Faix: No, because you have sent it back already
[20.11.2015 06:36:49] Rudolf Faix: I think you need to proceed to a law court. That will take a lot of time
[20.11.2015 06:37:51] Rudolf Faix: I hope that you have some evidence about your work that you have better chances against him in front of law court. Evidences are for example call recordings
[20.11.2015 06:38:13] KT Robby: and now dze days is der any campaigns providers from your eyes those are working fine and sending payment properly so I ca run my home
[20.11.2015 06:38:20] KT Robby: yes I have all the evidences
[20.11.2015 06:38:31] KT Robby: i have recording on speaking with omar for payment
[20.11.2015 06:38:49] Rudolf Faix: OK, that will help you,
[20.11.2015 06:39:24] KT Robby: so i need to complaint to ftc
[20.11.2015 06:39:25] Rudolf Faix: There is kathysiskenterprises.com, ianmhaines.co.uk
[20.11.2015 06:40:52] Rudolf Faix: Yes, you need to file a complaint to ftc and you can try the service from Steve Mertensmeyer https://www.linkedin.com/in/myrsdebtcollectorsinc
[20.11.2015 06:41:16] KT Robby: i forward him msg on linked but dint get any reply
[20.11.2015 06:41:32] KT Robby: ianmhaines.co.uk
[20.11.2015 06:41:40] KT Robby: dts the name of company
[20.11.2015 06:41:53] Rudolf Faix: That is the link to his homepage
[20.11.2015 06:42:06] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:43:28] Rudolf Faix: The email of the debt collector Steve Mertensmeyer is SPMERTENSMEYER@MYRSCREDIT.COM
[20.11.2015 06:43:39] KT Robby: ok si r
[20.11.2015 06:43:46] KT Robby: how is dep blue marketing
[20.11.2015 06:43:54] KT Robby: lars b chriatsnsen
[20.11.2015 06:44:27] Rudolf Faix: He is ok too, His campaigns are promoted on my site as "Fair campaign offers"
[20.11.2015 06:44:38] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:44:58] Rudolf Faix: Would I promote a scammer in Fair Campaign offers?
[20.11.2015 06:45:23] KT Robby: no neve r
[20.11.2015 06:45:41] Rudolf Faix: So you have given the answer to your question by yourself
[20.11.2015 06:46:15] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:46:49] KT Robby: but i hope you can understand how they cheat people ;; we wrk very hard and he tuk my whole savings
[20.11.2015 06:47:32] Rudolf Faix: Yes, but for writing an article I need to have the documentation to show too.
[20.11.2015 06:47:46] KT Robby: i will give you everything
[20.11.2015 06:48:07] KT Robby: because ei wants everyone know his face cz in every eyes he is very fiar fr payment
[20.11.2015 06:48:22] Rudolf Faix: It is not enough to name someone to be a scammer without any proof. In this case he can bring me in front of the law court
[20.11.2015 06:49:00] Rudolf Faix: In Europe and U,S. is the law working very well
[20.11.2015 06:49:11] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 06:49:25] Rudolf Faix: I cannot simple disappear like the people in India
[20.11.2015 06:49:55] Rudolf Faix: Even if it would be possible, I don't like to start from the beginning again.
[20.11.2015 06:50:39] KT Robby: in india i would like to ask you i am getting many mails for back office campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:50:53] KT Robby: and the consultacies are charging upfront
[20.11.2015 06:51:10] Rudolf Faix: Every upfront is only SCAM
[20.11.2015 06:51:21] KT Robby: so in your views is der any good consultacy in india whom i can deal
[20.11.2015 06:51:32] Rudolf Faix: The client has to pay the broker because he has hired him
[20.11.2015 06:51:33] KT Robby: cz they are giving back office campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:51:49] KT Robby: yes ;; you are right sir
[20.11.2015 06:52:20] Rudolf Faix: No, you'll not find one real broker in India. Not one client will hire a broker from India or another low wage country
[20.11.2015 06:53:47] KT Robby: so is der any person in your knowledge whom i can deal for back office campaigns so i can run my life on track ;; please just help me for this cz you must be aware of these people
[20.11.2015 06:54:12] KT Robby: any back office campign wchich i can get from offshore country from any person wchich you knows
[20.11.2015 06:54:54] Rudolf Faix: There are no back office campaigns available because consumer/customer data are protected by law and nobody will give you access to it
[20.11.2015 06:55:26] KT Robby: okay sir
[20.11.2015 06:56:03] Rudolf Faix: For this reason you'll not find any offer without upfront and upfronts are nothing else than SCAMs
[20.11.2015 06:56:13] KT Robby: and any inbound for you know any bo cz you will be in touch of many big people so i can get
[20.11.2015 06:56:16] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 06:56:41] Rudolf Faix: What can you do with an inbound caller if you not have access to his data?
[20.11.2015 06:57:00] KT Robby: i am talking about inbound campaigns
[20.11.2015 06:57:11] KT Robby: any small campign with 10-20 seaters
[20.11.2015 06:57:33] Rudolf Faix: Yes I know and I have written about an inbound caller!
[20.11.2015 06:58:21] KT Robby: i mean there are many inbound call cntre in indai those are working for usa
[20.11.2015 06:58:28] Rudolf Faix: The same reason why there are no backoffice campaigns available are no inbound campaigns available
[20.11.2015 07:00:16] Rudolf Faix: Not one center from India has an Inbound campaign. Since 1998 is the consumer data protection law available, Each company would get fined with US$ 16,000 per customer record they give you access. AT&T has paid for such a failure US$ 25,000,000 fine
[20.11.2015 07:00:35] Rudolf Faix: Do you think anyone will take such a risk?
[20.11.2015 07:00:57] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 07:01:14] KT Robby: but in new delhi many inbound for uk and usa are running
[20.11.2015 07:01:20] Rudolf Faix: Than you need to search for such an idiot
[20.11.2015 07:01:25] KT Robby: smaal call centres and big centres
[20.11.2015 07:01:32] KT Robby: not like that sor
[20.11.2015 07:01:34] KT Robby: sir
[20.11.2015 07:01:48] Rudolf Faix: UK has fines of € 58,000 per case
[20.11.2015 07:01:53] KT Robby: omg
[20.11.2015 07:02:07] KT Robby: :O
[20.11.2015 07:02:24] Rudolf Faix: So that are nothing else than big lies - the centers which are working on inbound campaigns
[20.11.2015 07:02:58] Rudolf Faix: Remaining Europe (except UK) has fines of € 50,000 per case for giving consumer data out
[20.11.2015 07:05:13] Rudolf Faix: With Europe I mean the European Union. Switzerland is not a member of the European Union, but there the company owner even faces the sieved air in prison for giving consumer data out
[20.11.2015 07:05:30] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 07:05:41] KT Robby: so you mean i can never open an inbound
[20.11.2015 07:06:01] Rudolf Faix: Never because you'll not get access to the data
[20.11.2015 07:06:14] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 07:06:19] Rudolf Faix: The only valid and possible campaign is lead generation
[20.11.2015 07:06:29] KT Robby: yes
[20.11.2015 07:06:35] KT Robby: whom i can delal with
[20.11.2015 07:06:45] KT Robby: Kathy sisk and ian haimes
[20.11.2015 07:06:57] Rudolf Faix: I have given you already all the 3 brokers which I know
[20.11.2015 07:07:02] KT Robby: ok sir
[20.11.2015 07:07:08] Rudolf Faix: Lars you have forgotten in your list
[20.11.2015 07:07:16] KT Robby: hahaaaaaaaaaaa
[20.11.2015 07:07:47] Rudolf Faix: Maybe there are some more out there, but I don't know them
[20.11.2015 07:07:59] KT Robby: ok
[20.11.2015 07:09:11] Rudolf Faix: Outsourcing is dead already, So you'll not find a lot of brokers. The scammers and the greediness of the center owners have destroyed the outsourcing industry already
[20.11.2015 07:09:27] KT Robby: yes sir
[20.11.2015 07:09:30] KT Robby: you are right
[20.11.2015 07:09:50] Rudolf Faix: The center have traded their data and for this the law got changed
[20.11.2015 07:10:11] Rudolf Faix: That has been the start of the end from the outsourcing industry
[20.11.2015 07:10:44] Rudolf Faix: More than phone directory data are not available for anybody world wide

The above communication shows only that Kshitij Tripathi has not capable of learning. He even don't try the ways of law, which I suggested to him, for getting the money back. That shows that it is not his own money he has lost and he cannot provide any proofs. He expect that other are doing his work and he needs to take only the money. Afterwards he complaints about getting called to be a scammer.

[25.05.2016 05:50:10] KT Robby: hello gm
[25.05.2016 05:50:11] KT Robby: sir
[25.05.2016 05:50:17] KT Robby: here is kshitij tripathi
[25.05.2016 05:50:33] KT Robby: whom abhishek make post about me regarding his scammer friend arib ahmed khan
[25.05.2016 05:50:36] KT Robby: need tot alk you
[25.05.2016 05:50:43] KT Robby: and elt you knwo the whole stiry
[25.05.2016 05:51:08] KT Robby: thye are blaming my name only reason my friend joe johnson has caught them on doing scamming

I have counted during a Google search in the year 2016 9 complaints from different centers posted on different platforms against the Scammer: apostotlebpo.in - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma in the year 2016. Don't forget that the year 2016 is until now only 6 months old. For a detailed list simple read the article Scammer: apostotlebpo.in - Kshitij Tripathi - Gaurav Sharma. This fact shows us that the scammer is Kshitij Tripathi and not someone else.

It is every time funny if a scammer contacts me by Skype and does not seems to know why I call him to be a scammer. So has done it Sandeep Yadav too. He does not feel guilty for scamming others. For him is it nothing else than ecommerce and he does not feel himself guilty if the center gets nothing for their hard earned money. I call this kind of business understanding nothing else than scam, fraud, crime, etc.

That Sandeep Yadav is a chronic liar gets already shown at his profile in the section education. It seems that he is even too stupid to fake his own education. On December 18, 2015 I made a pdf-printout from the LinkedIn profile of Sandeep Yadav for my last scammer report ("Scammer: Sandeep Yadav - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosysos.com - does even not know what legal services are"). The pdf-file can get found here. There is written about his education:

Gujarat University
Bachelor of Commerce (B.Com.), Business, Management, Marketing, and
Related Support Services
2013 – 2019

k kaa shahtri comerce college
Master of Computer Applications (M.C.A.), 2013, B
2013 – 2015

While 2019 (we have now 2016) can get accepted as a type mismatch, I did not believe that someone can go working and make two different studies during the last semester of one of his studies. In his profile has been written that he has been working since January 2015 as project manager for the MNC group.

If we take now a look into the LinkedIn profile from Sandeep Yadav (.pdf), than we see there is written (Copy & Paste - it is not a type mismatch from me):

Gujarat Univercity
Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A
2011 – 2014

If we are comparing the data than we see that the Scammer does not know the dates he visited the University and he does not know which University he visited.

The scammer Sandeep Yadav seems to be so proud about his invented education, because this is the most important point in his Skype chat with me. First he complained that I have been calling him to be scammer and afterwards he immediately complained about my statement that he does not have any education. What can you expect from someone, which even don't know which University he visited?

Here is the full Skype communication with the scammer Sandeep Yadav from ACE Infosys. The provided time is GMT+1:

[22.02.2016 06:04:45] yadav sandeep: hello
[22.02.2016 11:23:06] *** yadav sandeep möchte Sie auf Skype hinzufügen

Hi Rudolf Faix, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[22.02.2016 11:24:12] *** Rudolf Faix hat Kontaktdetails mit yadav sandeep ausgetauscht. ***
[22.02.2016 11:24:31] Rudolf Faix: Hello
[22.02.2016 11:26:28] yadav sandeep: How are you sir ?
[22.02.2016 11:26:43] Rudolf Faix: Thanks, I'm ok
How are you?
[22.02.2016 11:26:55] yadav sandeep: I am good
[22.02.2016 11:28:18] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix you mentioned on Linked In that I am scammer , but i still not understood what scam i did ?
[22.02.2016 11:29:09] Rudolf Faix: Did you not follow the provided link?
[22.02.2016 11:29:45] yadav sandeep: as per that link you have mentioned that i am not Graduate .
[22.02.2016 11:30:16] Rudolf Faix: One moment, I'm searching for your name in the blog
[22.02.2016 11:31:05] yadav sandeep: As we do outsource all shorts of BPO
[22.02.2016 11:31:20] yadav sandeep: voice and non voice projects with reference centers
[22.02.2016 11:31:45] Rudolf Faix: I got it already you made from the online shoe and apparel provider an airline
[22.02.2016 11:33:44] yadav sandeep: revently we got new campaign of Zappos ,that is US based company for E commerce
[22.02.2016 11:34:09] yadav sandeep: and they are starting to give customer support for Airlines
[22.02.2016 11:34:33] yadav sandeep: and in that process we are charging the consultancy from the Advance billing
[22.02.2016 11:34:55] yadav sandeep: So Mr. Faix now tell me what scam we are doing ?
[22.02.2016 11:35:21] Rudolf Faix: Your company is ACE infosys?
[22.02.2016 11:35:48] yadav sandeep: Yeah
[22.02.2016 11:37:26] Rudolf Faix: Zappos Airlines Inbound Voice process
Shipping BPO Non Voice process
Axis Bank
Topbuy.com.au
are all scam campaigns
[22.02.2016 11:38:15] yadav sandeep: You know what is Axis bank process ?
[22.02.2016 11:38:22] Rudolf Faix: Not one campaign is possible by the law of the outsourcing countries
[22.02.2016 11:38:30] yadav sandeep: that checque collection process in India
[22.02.2016 11:38:37] Rudolf Faix: Not one bank is able to outsource some inbound process
[22.02.2016 11:39:47] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix Axis bank process is not Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:40:11] yadav sandeep: that is Checque collection from the Cheque drop boxes
[22.02.2016 11:41:03] Rudolf Faix: Your offer is non voice process for BPO centers
[22.02.2016 11:41:15] yadav sandeep: yes we are
[22.02.2016 11:41:32] yadav sandeep: As we have Aircel Form Filling
[22.02.2016 11:41:49] Rudolf Faix: Which barcode do you like to handle in the shipping BPO non voice process?
[22.02.2016 11:41:51] yadav sandeep: Aircel is leading telecome company in India
[22.02.2016 11:42:26] Rudolf Faix: I have not listed an Aircell campaign
[22.02.2016 11:42:47] yadav sandeep: i am talking at presently we have this one.
[22.02.2016 11:43:26] yadav sandeep: Apart from this we have PF form filling (Providand Fund)
[22.02.2016 11:44:40] Rudolf Faix: I have listed an Airline "Zappos", a barcode shipping process, non voice voice form filling process with no target :), the axis bank, topbuy.com.au
[22.02.2016 11:46:13] yadav sandeep: Zappos Inbound as i said this is not Airline Company they will provid ticketing service to the customer

The promotion for this campaign looks a little bit different than Sandeep Yadav tries to explain now:

If the campaign has been a real one why ACE Infosys has deleted this campaign immediately as my article "Scammer: ACE Infosys - aceinfosysos.com - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosys.co.uk - Niraj Shah" got published? I will not delete an article or a posting if I know that the provided information is true. Even if the information is wrong, than I'll write an update with an excuse and the correct information and strike through the wrong information.

[22.02.2016 11:46:25] Rudolf Faix: In December got listed a Dell inbound project, ADVANCE AND DAILY BILLING WITH INBOUND PROCESS, DIRECT SIGN UP
[22.02.2016 11:46:56] yadav sandeep: Yes we were having Dell Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:47:12] Rudolf Faix: https://blog.wwpa.com/post/2015/12/19/scammer-sandeep-yadav-viral-pithadiya-aceinfosysos-com-does-even-not-know-what-legal-services-are
[22.02.2016 11:47:41] yadav sandeep: there is a Client In India who is already running Dell Non voice and with good performance he got Voice campaign to run
[22.02.2016 11:47:53] Rudolf Faix: ou can download there the pdf file of your own posting
[22.02.2016 11:48:22] yadav sandeep: But he was not able to run that campaign and he outsourced it as a Authorised vendor

Wow, a center, which is not able to run a campaign, can forward/resell this campaign from a big U.S. company, which lets make their contracts from their own attorneys. I think more that the center owner did not read his own contract for the case the campaign existed.

[22.02.2016 11:48:58] yadav sandeep: Viral Pithadia is our web developer

With this message Sandeep Yadav is confirming how much he has learned at the University for his "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A", but I'm sure for this is the University from Gujarat guilty and not he by himself. Only unsuspecting people let registering their domain in the name of some staff. Viral Pithadia is the owner of the domain. If ACE Infosys fires Viral Pithadia than they are losing their domain together with their staff.

[22.02.2016 11:48:59] Rudolf Faix: Sure, because this process does not exist.
[22.02.2016 11:49:25] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix we have all the proofs.
[22.02.2016 11:49:47] yadav sandeep: and running Center In Banglore (India)
[22.02.2016 11:50:13] Rudolf Faix: You only need to take a look at the consumer protection law of the different countries and than you'll see that such a process is not possible by law-
[22.02.2016 11:51:37] yadav sandeep: You have also listed Axis Bank process ?
[22.02.2016 11:51:43] yadav sandeep: so what about that ?
[22.02.2016 11:51:56] yadav sandeep: its not Inbound
[22.02.2016 11:52:20] Rudolf Faix: Yes, banking data are especially protected. No bank likes to run into bankruptcy
[22.02.2016 11:52:50] yadav sandeep: its not to bankruptcy
[22.02.2016 11:53:13] yadav sandeep: Its Cheque collection from the Drop boxes.
[22.02.2016 11:53:39] Rudolf Faix: They will run into bankruptcy as soon the people get it that their data are getting stolen or misused
[22.02.2016 11:53:40] yadav sandeep: and Bank is paying INR 250 for per drop box
[22.02.2016 11:54:12] yadav sandeep: there is no need to use data in this process

Sure there are no data in this process. The data written on the cheques are public data and you can copy it everywhere. It does not matter if a few cheques are missing or someone gets access to the giro accounts as he knows already the account numbers and the names from the cheques. A bank, which offer such a work will run into bankruptcy before she can pay the outsourced center. Not one customer will have trust into such a system.

[22.02.2016 11:54:15] Rudolf Faix: The same way like Zappos is an airline?
[22.02.2016 11:54:56] Rudolf Faix: Checks are the same like money. For this purpose each bank has special security rules.
[22.02.2016 11:55:18] yadav sandeep: In Zappos also no need to use Data its ticket window and ticketing counter like make my trip.

I see how the scammer Sandeep Yadav understands the travel business: Everybody knows that he does not need to provide personal details and credit card information when he is booking a flight. For this reason the airplanes are all empty because the passengers need not provide any payment at the time of booking. For this reason the travel agencies are overbooking the airplane by selling each seat 5 times. If more people are coming to the departure than have place in the airplane the airline simple takes another unused airplane out of the hangar, take the next free grew, make the pre-flight check (which is done within a few minutes), fill some kerosene and start without any flight registration with the remaining people to the same destination.

[22.02.2016 11:56:11] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix Axis bank process sign up we are doing into the Head office of bank in India.
[22.02.2016 11:56:22] Rudolf Faix: Sure an online distributor for shoes, clothing and accesories
[22.02.2016 11:56:40] yadav sandeep: its Ecommerce company

With this statement has confirmed Sandeep Yadav, a "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A", that he even don't know the meaning of the word e-commerce (WikiPedia).

[22.02.2016 11:57:19] Rudolf Faix: Zappos has only made a joint venture promotion at the airport of New York with Jetblue. That has been a marketing gag and not more
[22.02.2016 11:58:26] Rudolf Faix: If you not believe me than go to http://www.zappos.com/
[22.02.2016 12:01:19] Rudolf Faix: Here you'll find the source about their marketing gag http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-mo-airline-passengers-getting-some-love--001-photo.html
[22.02.2016 12:03:07] Rudolf Faix: http://deliverbliss.com/zappos-airlines-a-first-class-ticket-to-customer-experience/
[22.02.2016 12:05:25] Rudolf Faix: As you are offering campaigns, which are not existing and like to take upfront fees, how would you call yourself in this case?
That is scam, fraud, crime
[22.02.2016 12:07:39] yadav sandeep: No Mr. Faix we are always doing the contract that if due to any reason the process not would be there will refund your money
[22.02.2016 12:08:27] yadav sandeep: and we are doing veryfication personally after that only we are outsourcing
[22.02.2016 12:08:54] yadav sandeep: maximum we preffer to outsource the process with reference center.
[22.02.2016 12:09:24] yadav sandeep: where you can check thier payment proofs and all things but with some procedure.
[22.02.2016 12:11:10] Rudolf Faix: It is very simple, you are offering something what does not exist. Others are forwarding me their complaints and I make the background check. If the background check is negative than it will result in an article about the scam.
[22.02.2016 12:12:51] Rudolf Faix: That not all get their money back can get read at:
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/bycompany/ace-infosys-ahmedabad-a408272.html
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-ahmedabad-fraud-amp-scam-company-c1220141
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-ace-infosys-from-ahmedabad-are-fraud-people-c1209262
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-b113440
http://www.consumercomplaints.in/ace-infosys-freelance-job-c1159210
[22.02.2016 12:14:47] yadav sandeep: that all is false.

This complaint is only solved because a wrong company got complained. aceinfosys.com, a leading Medical Service Provider company based in California, USA got complained.

Sure we all know it. If it is written about themselves is it all only a defamation. As soon as something is gets written about someone other than it needs to be true! That shows that the education has stopped in the pre-kindergarten area of Sandeep Yadav and his partner in crime Chhaya Sharma:

[22.02.2016 12:14:58] yadav sandeep: we have agreement with them
[22.02.2016 12:15:13] yadav sandeep: they took process and unable to complete that work
[22.02.2016 12:15:35] yadav sandeep: and after completing 2-3 months they are saying need money back
[22.02.2016 12:15:43] yadav sandeep: tell me how its possible
[22.02.2016 12:16:03] yadav sandeep: we are consultant not taking complete money in our pocket
[22.02.2016 12:16:30] yadav sandeep: and if you are not able to complete that work so that is not our folt.
[22.02.2016 12:17:05] yadav sandeep: we have lots of proofs of we made payment to them for whatever they worked.

Sure Mr. Sandeep Yadav, everybody will believe you that the center has been so much thankful that they have written how thankful they are into the Complaint Board. For example is one complaint, which show the kind of payments you have done and which proves you have:

whatever the projects they outsource it’s all fake projects, they charge money too much and they will rotate that money for payments by 10% in the amount what we paid and they won’t respond at all

and

This company has cheated me of 1, 50, 000 for three seats in freelance adposting job saying daily payments. its been over months n i have recieved just bits and pieces of payment, there is a problem while posting, no body is there to provide a solution.

Already these two messages are showing the kind of scam, which ACE Infosys is running. Additonal likes the scammer Sandeep Yadav making us to believe that ACE Infosys is playing man-in-the-middle. For the case that they are really reselling campaigns, what I don't believe, are they guilty by themselves for not verifying their source and are for this reason a partner in crime of the scammer. It does not make any difference if they are the partner in crime or the criminals by themselves. In any case they have broken their commercial duty of diligence. I know for this is again the University from Gujarat guilty, because they did not teach it to the scammer with the "Bachelor’s Degree, B.COM, A". Remains only the question how the University of Gujarat could teach him this business law as the scammer has never visited any University?

Not the centers are not able doing the work on the invented campaigns, the scammers are using a little bit from the upfront fee and let the centers doing something and make a statement that the work got done with too many failures. It is nothing else than a crime!

[22.02.2016 12:18:21] Rudolf Faix: That is your statement and the kind of your processes are all against the consumer protection law. It fits all so nice together
Even with your own words in this conversation: Zappos Inbound as i said this is not Airline Company they will provid ticketing service to the customer
The problem is only that they are even not dealing with tickets
[22.02.2016 12:20:02] yadav sandeep: Mr. Faix you should learn more about Zappos.
[22.02.2016 12:20:28] Rudolf Faix: What do you like to teach me about Zappos?
[22.02.2016 12:21:03] Rudolf Faix: Do you like to teach me that travel data are not protected by law?
[22.02.2016 12:22:32] Rudolf Faix: Have you ever read the U.S. Consumer procetion law? Do you know that for each misused record Zappos will pay US$ 16,000 fine? Where are they able to save something by outsourcing?

At this point the scammer Sandeep Yadav from ACE Infosys seems to have been running out of arguments because he did not reply me until now. It looks like that Sandeep Yadav believes that his scammer income will go down because he made the following posting for a new pyramid system:

The site cashpackets.com got registered 55 days ago (Creation Date: 2015-12-27T15:36:00.00Z), is using a privacy protection service and the most visitors are coming from Russia and Ukraine. The only work you need to do is to promote the site for getting new members. Conclusion: Nothing else than a new pyramid system, cheap, quick and dirty programmed as even the FAQ page is not working.

Older reports about ACE Infosys - Sandeep Yadav:

• Scammer: ACE Infosys - aceinfosysos.com - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosys.co.uk - Niraj Shah
• Scammer: Sandeep Yadav - Viral Pithadiya - aceinfosysos.com - does even not know what legal services are

As there a few people which are playing man-in-the-middle is it not easy to discover the real start of the scam. The chain is running from Sun Edison Inc. via Richard Doyen (USA) to Emmanuel Logan (Pakistan) to Reginald Alexandre (USA) until the campaign reach the call center located again in Pakistan. All involved parties have a reason to scam and to use the workforce from others without paying them:

1. Sun Edison Inc.
   The shares from Sun Edison Inc. getting traded at the New York Stock Exchange (Symbol: SUNE). Sun Edison Inc. is calling themselves:

   SunEdison Inc is a developer and seller of photovoltaic energy solutions, an owner and operator of clean power generation assets. The Company is also engaged in the development, manufacture and sale of silicon wafers to the semiconductor industry.

   By expanding the news from the New York Stock Exchange a lot of investor alerts and calls from attorneys for a class action lawsuit against Sun Edision Inc. are getting found. Investors have lost a lot of money with Sun Edison Inc. Examples for these calls for a class action lawsuit are getting found at Business Wire articles from February 1, 2016, November 12, 2015 and Barron's Tech Trader Daily.

   A call center which is working for a company like Sun Edison Inc. needs to use normally the name of the client and not allowed to say that they are calling from a company with a name like "Home Solar Experts". Hiding the real company name makes only sense if the company Sun Edison Inc. has something to hide.

2. Richard Doyen
   More suspicious to be a scammer is Richard Doyen. He is nothing else than a simple junior salesman at Sun Edison Inc without any previous sales experience. In his LinkedIn profile (.pdf) he is titling himself since June 2015 to be a "Residential Energy Consultant at SunEdison". Any information about a energy or technical background knowledge is in his LinkedIn profile missing. He writes by himself about his job at Sun Edison Inc.:

   SunEdison is the number one renewable energy company in the world. My responsibilities are to facilitate solar sales for qualified home owners in New Jersey. I am building the outside sales force and implementing the SunEdsion culture.

   In the comment to my article Scammer: Reggie Alexandre - centers and others are not getting paid has Richard Doyen written:

   I came to know about this post by Emmanuel as he is working for me in NJ. I am a Residential Energy Consultant at Sun Edison and as far as the leads are concerned which Emmanuel sent me those where pathetic with bad quality. Emmanuel has already shared my feedback for those leads. I haven't payed any money to Emmanuel yet as we didn't get anything out of the leads he sent over. Emmanuel is good guy to work with as he delivers quality work, this is the first time I came across when his quality wasn't good. But he told me that he was moving to another place and he outsource the work to Reggie and further he outsourced it to zeeshan, so that's was the reason why quality wasn't good.

   The above comment got sent from:

   IP Address	Country	Region	City	Postal Code
   108.35.216.108	US	New Jersey	Maplewood	07040

   In the above comment is declaring Richard Doyen himself to be a scammer and a liar.

   The first lie gets already found in the comment where Richard Doyen is writing "I came to know about this post by Emmanuel as he is working for me in NJ." This statement is already wrong because Emmanuel Salamat also known as Emmanuel Logan is located in Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan. He is nothing else than "broker" for call center campaigns. He is not working in New Jersey, USA.

   Emmanuel Salamat / Emmanuel Logan has been commenting the article "Scammer: Reggie Alexandre - centers and others are not getting paid" from the IP address:

   IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
   119.153.149.155	Pakistan	Punjab	Rawalpindi	Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited

   It is for a scammer easy to say without bringing up any evidence that the quality of the calls has not been good. That are doing other scammers too. I think more about the case that Sun Edison Inc. is even not knowing that they have hired a call center and that the junior salesman Richard Doyen (he has been at this time less than 6 months the salesman job and did not have any previous experience in energy sales at this time) had the idea to let others working for him.

   Richard Doyen provides at his LinkedIn profile the following career:

   • Assistant Restaurant Manager, September 2001 - September 2005, 4 years 1 month
   • U.S. Army, different jobs, January 2006 - January 2015, 9 years 1 month
   • SunEdison, since June 2005 until now, 9 months

   If we take a look at the previous career from Richard Doyen then the question "From where the sales experience shall come from?" is coming up. It seems that Richard Doyen likes to maximize his own earnings and he simple decided not to pay the peoples working for him.

   Here are some recordings from the generated leads. For data protection reasons I have only removed the personal data. The original files are still available:

   • Recording from November 25, 2015:
   • Recording from December 7, 2015:
   • Recording from December 9, 2015:

   What did the junior salesman Richard Doyen expect to get? Did he expect that the called ones will drop their hard earned money into his postbox? Maybe it is time for the scammer Richard Doyen to wake up from his bad dream?

   For Richard Doyen makes it more sense that the call center needs to name themselves "Home Solar Experts". In such a case he is avoiding complaints and call-backs to his company where his fraud would get discovered.

3. Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan
   Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan had written on February 4, 2016: "I have paid reggie $300 for 10 approved leads from my own pocket for the lead generation and I have the proof of it with me". It is nice that he has the proof with him, but why did he not show us the proof? I think that the proof does not exist and cannot get shown for this reason.

   For me are there a few more questions still open:

   • Why shall Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan paying for leads from his own pocket? Has there something happened that he has mixed up some leads with other centers?
   • Why got now 10 of the "pathetic with bad quality" leads approved?
   • Why Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan is not knowing the agreement with the call center? There is written that each approved lead has the price of $55 and not $30! Is it another way for maximizing the earnings of the scammers? For me it seems that the scammers Emmanuel Logan and Richard Doyen are working very tight together.
   • Why Emmanuel Salamat should send some money to Reginald Alexandre located in the U.S. as he knows that the call center is located in his own country Pakistan? Would it not be cheaper from the bank transfer fees that he pays the center directly and send to Reginald Alexandre only his own portion of the payment?

   For Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan makes it only sense that the call center is calling with the name "Home Solar Experts" if he likes to trade the generated leads to different clients. In this case he would not have provided the name Sun Edison Inc. as client, but it can be that he is the partner in crime from Richard Doyen or Richard Doyen is his own invention. In any case is the IP Address from Richard Doyen's comment posting not from a proxy server.

4. Reginald Alexandre / Reggie Alexandre
   Reggie Alexandre has immediately provided the name of his upstream in the chain. For him is the same information about the company name, the call center is calling from, valid like for Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan.

   Emmanuel Logan has written in his comment: "I have paid reggie $300 ...". That means it has happened in the past. I had a Facebook chat with Reggie Alexandre on February 5, 2016. I have used this public provided information from Emmanuel Salamat for asking Reginald Alexandre. I understand his answer that he will forward the money to the call center as soon as he receive it.

   Here is a screenshot from the Facebook chat with Reginald Alexandre:

   

   Reginald Alexandre seems to have forgotten, that already a few people are already earning as the campaign have been already in Pakistan. He has been thinking he can make some additional money by bringing the campaign back to the U.S. and forward it again to Pakistan. For this reason he is a partner in crime with the other scammers.

In summary is the campaign nothing else than a scam campaign. The scam started with Richard Doyen and he find some helpers, which did not prove the provided information of the campaign. A junior salesman can even not sell something without a confirmation from a higher instance. It seems that Richard Doyen tried to enrich himself from the work of people living in a low wage country. The greediness from Emmanuel Salamat and Reginald Alexandre completed the scam.

That Emmanuel Salamat aka Emmanuel Logan is nothing else than a big liar gets shown by the fact that the promised $300 did not arrive at the call center in Pakistan until now. Emmanuel Salamat thinks that people are getting full from his empty promises.

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Reggie Alexandre (https://www.facebook.com/reggie.alexandre?fref=ts) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

The scammer Reggie Alexandre alias Reginald Alexandre does not really know what his job is and where he is living. You find different profiles with different information about him at the social network sites like Google+, Facebook and LinkedIn. This should be already a big warning and a red flag for making business with him. People which are lying need a memory like an elephant. The scammer Reggie Alexandre seems to have a memory like an ant because he even don't remember the different information he gives about himself in the social network.

We find about Reggie Alexandre at Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/reggie.alexandre):

• Chief Executive Officer at Solar Energy Connections and Chief Executive Officer at Binary Traders' HQ
• Studied at Florida Atlantic University
• Lives in Sunny Isles Beach, Florida
• From Boca Raton, Florida
• 2,083 friends

Scammers are lazy. The scammer Regginald Alexandre is even to lazy to take care for his domains. He seems to be so successful that he is not able to pay the hosting fees for his domain solarenergyconnections.com and the domain registration fee for Binarytradershq.com because this domain expired already after one year. The income for an CEO of two scam companies seems to be not as high as expected.

At LinkedIn we find Reginald Alexandre (https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginald-alexandre-881447100):

Founder at Solar Energy Connections, LLC (Lead Generation/ Live Transfers)

West Palm Beach, Florida Area

Renewables & Environment

Actual	Solar Energy Connections LLC, Market Wealth Movement LLC
Before	Nationwide Relocation Services
Education	Florida Atlantic University

Nice that we can find here his next scam company with the name "Market Wealth Movement LLC". It is again a sham company which likes to trade with binary options. https://www.statelog.com/market-wealth-movement-llc-boca-raton-fl tells us that the business is registered:

Registration Details

Business name: MARKET WEALTH MOVEMENT LLC

File Date: 01/21/2015

Filing type: FICTITIOUS NAME

Source: FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE - DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS ^[1]

Last update: 01/30/2015

Registered agent

Agent Name: NICHOLAS CORSALINI

Street: 10969 BAL HARBOR DR

Locality: BOCA RATON, FL 33498

County: PALM BEACH

At the same address we'll find the already known "SOLAR ENERGY CONNECTIONZ LLC", which does not have enough income to paying their hosting services and additonal "ALEXANDRE ENTERPRISES LLC".

At Google+ (https://plus.google.com/u/0/116849259726747328993/about) we find

Reginald Alexandre
Works at Solar Energy Connections
has visited: FAU
Lives in Sunny Isles Beach Miami

Founder of Solar Energy Connections
Solar Energy Connections
CEO/Founder, 2015 - today
Lead generation

I think that everybody understands that such a busy CEO of three companies does not remember to pay his bills, let others work for him without paying them and even does not remember the correct writing of his company names (registered: Solar Energy Connectionz LLC - he writes: Solar Energy Connections LLC). The Facebook pages Binary Traders' HQ and Solar Energy Connections are in any case cheaper than an expensive domain. It even makes a good impression to some investors if the provide websites binarytradershq.com and solarenergyconnections.com are not reachable. In this case Reginald Alexandre has the argument that he is not trashing investors money for useless and very expensive websites.

Such a busy CEO like Reginald Alexandre needs to have also two Skype accounts - one for each ear or is it one for each hand. The first one Reggie Alexandre from Boca Raton, USA:

The second Skype account using the same picture - Reggie Alexandre from Sunny Isles, Florida, USA:

In the following screenshot told Reginald Alexandre on December 16, 2015 to the center that he has sent the payment about 2 hours ago (full screenshot available by clicking on the image):

The only thing what Reggie Alexandre did not tell is the reference number as he did not have one. He tried to use the workforce from the center as long as he could get it. It makes a higher earnings for him not paying the workforce of others and it is much cheaper not paying someone for his work. It is easier to hide himself instead of paying (full screenshot available by clicking on the image):

As shown above he is not answering to any message. That one way of scamming others. In such a case you are as victim in a good shape because you can use the authorities for retrieving your payment. Additional you are able to file a case at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC).

Everybody knows that you can maximize your earnings by forget paying your bills!

Domain registration data of solarenergyconnections.com:

Domain Name: SOLARENERGYCONNECTIONS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1933255120_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
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Creation Date: 2015-05-28T17:36:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-05-28T17:36:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: Namecheap.com
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 00000
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Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
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Registry Admin ID:
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Admin Street:
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Tech Street:
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Name Server: NS493.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM
Name Server: NS494.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-05-28T10:36:13.00Z <<<

Update January 30, 2016: Additional to the comment on this article the scammer Reginald Alexandre has sent an "evidence" with the comment "Allow me to bring the truth to the table. I have valuable insight to the real story." for his statements (click on the picture to enlarge):

The proof shows only that Emmanuel Logan alias Emmanuel Salamat tells to Reginald Alexandre that he needs one more day for processing the payment. It does not show any rejection or a reason for it.

It does not make any difference if Reggie Alexandre got scammed by himself or not. Reginald Alexandre and not Emmanuel Logan (Skype ID: emmanuel.salamat) has hired a call center and did not pay them. For this reason is Reginald Alexandre the scammer because he ordered a call center, confirmed the payable leads and did not pay. If Reggie Alexandre got scammed than he has to pay the call center from his own pocket. That is the risk everybody has if he is playing man-in-the-middle and by making business. This "proof" confirms only the incapability in business of Reginald Alexandre!

If we take a look at the Skype profile from Emmanuel Logan

than we see already that this guy is not using his real name. A normal person will ask this guy about his real name. Would it be Emmanuel Logan or Emmanuel Salamat? This fact shows additional the bungling manner in business from Reginald Alexandre. He likes to forward his own risk in business to the call centers hired by him and thinks that he only need to say that the before confirmed leads are from worse quality.

Reginald Alexandre is bragging at his profiles in the social networks as CEO, Founder, Chief Officer from the companies Solar Energy Connections LLC, Binary Traders' HQ and Market Wealth Movement LLC. For the case that this companies really exists than he is publishing a list of his fails. Such people, without any knowledge in business, cannot be successful if they are not able to check if someone is trustful or not.

It can be a consolation for Reginald Alexandre that intelligence is not commercially available and the world is nothing but a large zoo where also scammer have their place.

Update January 31, 2016: It is funny how stupid Reginald Alexandre is. He thinks that he can play man-in-the-middle between a call center and a scammer from Pakistan. Emmanuel Logan alias Emmanuel Salamat is from Pakistan and not like written at his Skype and LinkedIn profile from the U.S. Someone which lies already about so small things like his place of living will lie in more important cases too. Such a person cannot get trusted for making business with him. The call center campaign got offered from Emmanuel logan alias Emmanuel Salamat at LinkedIn Pulse on October 19, 2015.

Reggie Alexandre has been supporting a scammer and even did not verify the provided information from the scammer. Real business men are working in a more secure way. For this reason is his argument found at the comment to this article nothing else than a lie for his self protection:

This is why I'm only working with American agents in my agents at home. I don't run into quality issues. When the buyers don't want to buy the lead it creates issues. His rejection rate was outstanding

The same way Reginald Alexandre has been confirming the quality of the leads at a Skype chat before:

And here he is confirming that the center should continue their work by sending more leads:

If the leads would be so terrible like the scammer Reginald Alexandre likes to make us to believe, than the communication would be looking very different. The scammer likes to get as much as he can for free. It does not matter for him if the center can survive or not, there are so many centers which he can scam for financing his own life.

If I take a look at the above chat, I even don't believe that Reggie or Reginald Alexandre is really living in Florida. In any case seems that English is not his mother tongue. I think more that he is an refugee which tries to finance his life by scamming others. The only problem is that he is even too stupid for scamming. If Reggie Alexandre is really U.S. citizen than he could apply for a job at the NASA. They are offering a job where he does not need some money anymore because all his living costs and expenses will get handled from the NASA. The only problem is that he will feel himself very lonesome and it is a trip without return - the trip to the planet Mars. I think nobody at the earth will miss a scammer!

We can see in the following email for what the recordings are getting really used. The center got their own recordings as a promotion of the "work" from another center:

From: Zeeshan Khan Niazi <xeeshankhanshani@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Recordings + Script
To: Rudolf Faix <rudolffaix@gmail.com>

Hello Rudolf ,,, am Glad you asked me for the answers that am more than happy to provide you .

i am lucky that i have found a backup of our conversation into my smartphone over Skype where he by himself have appreciate and admired the Quality that we have provided him and also i have sent you the email that have a Report attached with it so you can see that even on the solar campaign we got closer to 70% Approval Ratio from Reggie Which is even above than average approval rate that most of the people are getting normally ,,, So the reports he sent us will confirm you that he is giving false arguments regarding our Quality ,

His conversation with Emanuel Logan is in Jan 2016 but our leads were supposed to be paid in Start of DEC 2015 so there is months difference between..so i dont know and i cannot see what money he is asking from Emanuel ,Weather for My appointments or any Other Business ,

Emanuel is a Pakistani Guy but he is Christian that's the reason he have 2 names that's Christan people have here mostly 1.local name or Islamic and other one is Christian name,,. e.g ,,Chris Ali , Kareem Joseph etc , he contacted me recently to purchase Leads but i have declined his offer he never sounded trustworthy,,,

The the interested thing is that i last night an Indian guy asked me for some solar project that offers him but i always ask for the recordings in the start to see what kind of Agent center have , so he sent me 4 recordings ,,,, and you will not believe that i was amazed to see that he sent me best recordings and one of the recordings was my agent's Recording so i asked him who is this agent and where he is from and he sounds good so that Indian guy told me that this is his agent working in his center ,, lol ,, i told him this agent is my team lead and is sitting next to me ,Firs he refused to believe but than he told me that Emanuel sent him these recordings claiming these are Emanuel's agents and than Indian guy sent be few more recordings and all were mine,,, and the thing to note is these were the Leads i sent to Reggie ,,, lol

so when other people are giving leads or my agents as an sample of Quality agents still Reggie is pointing on our Quality ,, there is always room for improvement and my agents are not top class agents but they are Good we never Give any false work to anyone ,,,we are know for our Quality ,,

I hope this story will make sense to you and have all your answers you can reply to reggie including snapshots of conversation .

Zeeshan

If someone is thinking logically then he will get it that the campaign offer is nothing else than a scam. Real clients like to go offshore for saving money and not for spending more. Not one client, which has all senses still together, will buy leads from an untrustworthy source where he knows that the leads are getting sold many times. Not one client will hire a broker or consultant from abroad because if something is running wrong, the client likes to have the responsible person reachable.

By looking at this construction what we have found at the scam here we see that the leads would be very expensive as there is a Reggie Alexandre and an Emmanuel Logan/Salamat which like to earn from the work of the call center. Does anyone think that a client will pay all these incomes as he can have everything cheaper? A client goes offshore because he likes to save money and not to spend more!

Already for the idea to resale a campaign, which is getting offered on the social networks from a Pakistan guy, should Reginald Alexandre consult a madhouse doctor for a check-up. I think that he needs some urgent help provided from a psychiatric hospital.

The problem of all scammers is that they lie so much that they are not able to remember their lies. For this reason the scammer Reginald Alexandre does not remember his own statements and tries to find now some excuses with arguments that are getting easily rejected from his previous statements. For this reason, the scammers get caught in contradictions.

Update February 4, 2016:  If you are following the comments on this article you can see how funny it is if scammers are discovering themselves. They are even too lazy to use their own brain. Reginald Alexandre has already confirmed in the Skype chat on December 1, 2015 the good quality of the generated leads with his words  "you can send as much as you feel comfortable with" and "after first payment im sure you will ramp up". Now the scammer like to make us to believe that the quality of the leads have been very poor.

On the other site the scammers are showing in their comments how the campaign got sold. As source is naming a Richie D, which is afraid to provide his full name, a company with the name Sun Edison. The only company with the name Sun Edison I have found at Google is:

Type	Public
Traded as	NYSE: SUNE
Industry	Renewable energy
Founded	1959
Headquarters	Maryland Heights, Missouri Belmont, California
Key people	Ahmad Chatila, President & CEO
Products	Polysilicon, Solar Wafers, Photovoltaic Plants, Solar Modules, Solar Energy
Revenue	US$2.484 billion (2014)[1]
Operating income	(US$536 million) (2014)[1]
Number of employees	7,300 (2014)[1]
Website	www.sunedison.com

Actually reports Google a Share price: SUNE (NYSE) 2.80 $ +0.01 (+0.36%)
3. February, 19:49 GMT-5.

For the case that Richie D is really working for that company than it will be time for him to search for a new job. Each company will fire such staff which is destroying their reputation.

Let us following the sales way of the reported campaign:

1. Sun Edison (USA)
2. Richie D (IP: 108.35.216.108, United States, New Jersey, South Orange, Provider: Verizon Online Llc)
3. Emmanuel Logan (IP: 119.153.149.155, Pakistan, Punjab, Rawalpindi, Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited)
4. Reginald Alexandre (IP: 107.181.59.90, United States, Florida, Boca Raton, Hotwire Fision)
5. Zeeshan's call center (Pakistan)

All five like to make money with the generated leads. For this reason remains no money for the call center which has done the work. The problem in their arguments is that place 4 - Reginald Alexandre has already confirmed the quality of the leads on December 1, 2015. Place 2 - Richie D and 3 - Emmanuel Logan are saying now at the begin of February that the leads have been worse. How stupid are these scammers? It seems that they don't know that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

The case shows how easy it is for scammers to earn money while sleeping. All they need to say is "the generated leads" have been terrible instead of paying the centers. It even does not matter if one of their group has already confirmed the quality of the leads. In such a case they are even thinking that such a report will disappear for the only reason of their own contradictions!

I think that they are even not understanding with their untrained brain what in the real world is happening. For this reason they are trying even to bring up fake evidences. They are even not understanding that an investigator has more evidences as he is publishing during the first step.

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Reggie Alexandre (https://www.facebook.com/reggie.alexandre?fref=ts) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

Sounds good? Does it not sound too good to be true? Think about it. The center owner needs only to pay the travel costs of the trainer!

You are right. Sure, it is a plain advance fee scam. It is the newest idea from the well-known scammer Christine Wisner. Scam reports about Christine Wisner are getting already found at:

• Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner
• Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong
• Christine Wisner tries to save what can still be saved

Let us take first a look at the terms the scammers are using for their unbelievable offers:

• Advance Billing
  A billing is every time in advance and does not include an "advance payment". Nobody will pay before he gets a bill. For this reason is a bill nothing else than a simple form without any value if the bill does not get accepted from the recipient. You don't have any guarantee that the bill will get paid.
  
  Let us take an example: Even the supermarket cashier makes your bill in advance, before he receives the payment. At this time the supermarket cashier even does not know if you are able to pay the sum. That is called "advance billing". The only difference between the scam offers from the social networks and the supermarket is that the customer has to pay the bill before leaving with the purchased goods the supermarket.
  
  
• Advance Payment
  Let me use the same supermarket example for the "Advance payment". If you enter the supermarket and before you take the shopping cart you have to pay the goods which you like to buy. Afterwards you collect your merchandise and go to the cashier again. The cashier will check if you have not taken more than you have paid in advance. For the case you have taken more than you have paid you need to pay the difference. You'll get some money back for the case you did not find all the goods you liked to buy.
  
  Would you choose such a supermarket for your daily needs? If your answer is no then ask yourself why someone should be someone so stupid and pay you before you did the work? Do you really think that others are silly? A successful business owner does not give you money as a gift. He is only successful because he knows his business and is not irrational acting.

Only scammers are writing such offers into the social networks and are hoping to find a senseless person which is paying their advance fee (however they are calling it - security deposit, consultancy fee, VoIP costs, etc.):

PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDITED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN STARTEC TELICOM AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.

Startec Telecom, full name Startec Global Communications Corp, shares are getting traded at the NASDAQ. At their NASDAQ profile is written:

STARTEC is a rapidly growing, facilities-based international long distance carrier which markets its services to select ethnic U.S. residential communities that have significant international long distance usage. Additionally, to maximize the efficiency of its network

At Startec's company profile is written:

Building on that tradition, Startec is dedicated to being the leading provider of communication services to communities around the globe. Startec services connect worldwide communities spanning the Pacific Rim, Middle East, North Africa, Russia, Central Europe, and North and South America. We provide our services through a flexible network of owned and leased facilities, operating and termination agreements, and resale arrangements. Startec technology assets include an extensive network of IP gateways, international gateways, domestic switches and ownership in undersea fiber optic cables.

Does anybody believe that such a company hires a broker or consultant from Kolkota, India which is a well-known scammer?

Does anyone believe that such a company like Startec Global Telecom is sending a trainer on the costs of the call center from Hongkong to an unknown call center placed in the area of Hyderabad, India?

Such a business behavior would destroy the reputation of a company. The share values of Startec Global Telecom would in such a case go down to the area of the penny stocks and the responsible person would get fired.

Such a company knows how to hire staff, freelancers and subcontractors. If such a company hires someone than the hired one would get paid from them and not opposite round. As such a company is dealing with VoIP they would even make the recordings by themselves and you would even not have the chance to manipulate or edit them. For this reason and the reasons found above is the offer nothing else than a scam.

This scam gets initiated from Christine Wisner and afterwards she changes her identity to Joslyn March and uses the Skype ID joslyn.paul103. At this profile is written that she is from Toronto, Canada. She likes to get a flight ticket from Hongkong to your place while she is chatting from Kolkota, India. Here is her Skype profile:

The picture in the above profile got stolen from a photo model and should hide her real nationality.

By searching at Google for the exact phrase "client can stop the process with out any notice during the first 15 days trial period" I found another offer at the already well-known scammer platform SaveBpo.com:

The complete offer of the "US INBOUND CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE WITH VERY GOOD PAYOUT" campaign (.pdf) is the following:

CAMPAIGN : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE
PAYOUT : $10 / Hour / AGENT
TIMING : 24 X 7
NUMBER OF AGENTS : 10 agents 24 x 7
ADVANCE BILLING : 15 DAYS PRE-PAYMENT ON THE FIRST DAY OF GOING LIVE.
CONTRACT TIME : 1 YEAR
TRAINING : PROVIDED BY CLIENT ( 5 DAYS ). UNPAID TRAINING
PROCESS DETAILS : CUSTOMER CARE SERVICE. INBOUND CALLS AND EMAIL.
CENTRE MUST COVER THE EXPENSE FOR CLIENTS CENTRE VISIT
CLIENT CAN STOP THE PROCESS WITH OUT ANY NOTICE DURING THE FIRST 15 DAYS TRIAL PERIOD
AFTER FIRST 15 DAYS IT WILL BE A 1 YEAR CONTRACT.
MAN POWER : 30 AGENTS, 3 TEAM LEADER , 2 QUALITY HEAD.
AFTER 15 DAYS OF TRIAL , IT WILL BE MONTHLY PRE-PAYED BILLING CYCLE.
CLIENT MUST BE GIVEN FULL DAILER ACCESS
** NO CALLS MUST BE EDIATED
** PAPER WORKS AND DOCUMENTATION WILL BE DONE IN PERSON BETWEEN xxxxxxxxxx AND THE CONTACT CENTRE.
COMMERCIAL PART IS INVOLVED PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME

Here gets even offered $10 per hour per agent for a not existing campaign. Which support can get given to the caller if the agent cannot get access to the customer database? Remember that AT&T had to pay a fine of US$ 25,000,000 for copied/stolen customer data during an outsourcing process. Why shall one company take the risk to get fined like AT&T?

The next question is why a company likes to outsource some telemarketing campaigns offshore? The answer is very simple, they like to save money by taking advantage of a lower wage in the offshore country. If we take a look at the average payment for telemarketers in the USA then the offered payment is the same like in the USA. By taking a look at PayScale Telemarketer Salary for the United States, than we see that the average salary is $10.07 and the minimum is $7.86 (data from September 2015):

By looking at the data above, we see that telemarketers can get hired for less than $8 per hour. So why should hire a company from the U.S. a broker or consultant from India and offer a higher payment for the telemarketers. A company from the United States can hire and fire in the U.S. telemarketers for less and how they need them. Even the fee for the man-in-the-middle, the useless broker or consultant from India, can get saved in such a case.

Additional gets the same campaign under the tite "US Telecom Customer Service Inbound Only One Slot Available" (.pdf) found at the scammer platform BPO Project World from India. At this site shows the scammer how urgent he needs already money, because he writes that only one slot is remaining on this not existing campaign. Additional have even 12 amateur or "like to be" call centers asked for more information.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to http://www.bpoprojectworld.in/us-telecom-customer-service-inbound-only-one-slot-available/ and http://www.savebpo.com/project/us-inbound-customer-care-service-good-payout/ removed as they are already returning error 404 - not found.