Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

Recently I got forwarded a form filling project "US LOAN CUSTOMERS DATA DIGITALIZATION PROCESS". Already the title told me that the project is nothing else than scam. U.S. consumer date are protected by law. Banking data and loan data are high sensible data and are for this reason to get special protected. Public available are normally not more than data found in a phone directory.

The offer is from 9frramez Info Service LLP, which should be an ISO 9001-2008 certified company for the case even the the ISO certification is not a fake too. Their staff member can even not show her own face at her LinkedIn profile. It seems that Safiya Begum (for the case it is her true name) does not like to provide a manhunt picture by herself. The same is valid for their director, which is using at LinkedIn the name "9 frramez" and a graphic instead of a profile picture. The Facebook profile of 9frramez does not look in a better way.

It seems that both are believing that it is enough to promote dream campaigns and get for their inventions huge advanced fees. In any case is the comment interesting with which I got the campaign description forwarded:

Greetings of the day.

 

please find the attachments of the campaign.

These guys have Diwali offer for me in the payment which ill send you in another mail.

To talk about work, when i visited their registered office they showed me the work in the software they going to provide me for the work. I have seen the the software, seen them working on it.

I had searched for their companies master data in mca21.com an Indian government website. I will send those details too.

when i visited one of their vendor(center which is working on their project like other centers) he told me that he paid some amount while getting the project, though there is a delay in the payback, client is paying the bills without fail. He is running a home based BPO where he is living with his family. He showed me the mails of work he's been allotted. his employees are working through team viewer. I had observed everything and didn't find anything to doubt him.

Coming to 9frames they were a bit rude when i asked them for another center details. Previously they used to call me of their own, but now when i called them about the center details they were rude. I just said them "fine then....thank you".

 

Please go through all of them.

Attached has been the project description as pdf-file and the following screenshot:

The above screenshot shows that the data are computer generated and for this reason already stored in a digital way. There is no need for any manually action to convert the data into another format or storage ares. This can be done by converting data on the direct way. Such a data conversion is faster (depending on the system itself will take such a export/import procedure a few minutes and not 11 months like described in the pdf-file) and is 100% error free. In any case is a dataconversion cheaper than any manual workforce.

For this free invented project the scammer likes to get  "SERVICE FEE Rs.2.00 Lakh + (14% Service Tax) for Each 5 Seats or Rs.3.75 Lakh + (14% Service Tax) for Each 10 Seats". I know that scammer don't like to use their brain and they are thinking if they invent a campaign then it needs to be very expensive. But they are even to stupid to invent a campaign for a scam which can hardly get identified, because their brain is not in training.

That they even ar too stupid to remember their own company name gets shown if we take a look at their company registration data:

Even at their domain registration they are not able to write their real company name: 

Domain Name: 9FRAMES.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D164739177-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-10-17T00:20:39.00Z
Creation Date: 2012-02-17T06:37:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-02-17T06:37:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Registrant Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Registrant Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Registrant Street: BSR PLAZA
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: VIJAYAWADA
Registrant State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Registrant Postal Code: 520008
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +1.8662466199
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Admin Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Admin Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Admin Street: BSR PLAZA
Admin Street:
Admin City: VIJAYAWADA
Admin State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Admin Postal Code: 520008
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +1.8662466199
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID: a8c6baa9958a049c
Tech Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Tech Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Tech Street: BSR PLAZA
Tech Street:
Tech City: VIJAYAWADA
Tech State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Tech Postal Code: 520008
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +1.8662466199
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Name Server: NS1.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
Name Server: NS2.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-08-16T19:42:11.00Z <<<

The second domain registration data 9frramez.com:

Domain Name: 9FRRAMEZ.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1856910805_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-08-17T13:26:04.00Z
Creation Date: 2014-05-01T10:13:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-05-01T10:13:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Registrant Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Registrant Street: BSR PLAZA
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: VIJAYAWADA
Registrant State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Registrant Postal Code: 520008
Registrant Country: IN
Registrant Phone: +1.8662466199
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Admin Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Admin Street: BSR PLAZA
Admin Street:
Admin City: VIJAYAWADA
Admin State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Admin Postal Code: 520008
Admin Country: IN
Admin Phone: +1.8662466199
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: KRRISHNA VARADA
Tech Organization: 9FRRAMEZ
Tech Street: BSR PLAZA
Tech Street:
Tech City: VIJAYAWADA
Tech State/Province: ANDHRA PRADESH
Tech Postal Code: 520008
Tech Country: IN
Tech Phone: +1.8662466199
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 9frramez@gmail.com
Name Server: NS1.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
Name Server: NS2.JUNIPER.ARVIXE.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-08-16T21:21:44.00Z <<<

Update March 12, 2016: A Neelesh tries to impress me with big words:

Hi there!

It was very nice to see about our company that it is a scam on your blog.

We request you to share your address details to proceed legally on this particular issue.

We have completely gone through our previous track and didn't find nothing wrong with our people.

So, that we have escalated the matter to our admin department to take legal action against you.

We really cannot understand, no such person as mentioned in your blog visited our company and no people have behaved rudely with your people.

Anyways, It is better to you to remove the post asap, else we wanted to file suit on you after have confirmed that there was no such wrong things from our end.

Awaiting for your reply.

Regards
Neelesh
9frramez

Author information

Name: Neelesh
E-mail: neelesh.9frramez@gmail.com
IP address: 49.207.255.142
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.87 Safari/537.36 

It seems that Neelesh is even too lazy to look into the full legal disclaimer of this website or into the domain registration data. There he would find my address he is asking for.

Sure, each scammer does not recognize his own fail. The problem is only that 9frames Info Services LLP does not have any client for the offered campaign because loan data are in the U.S. protected by law and the outsourcing client would get fined with US$ 16,000 per record. If we are calculating how many records a center with 5 or 10 seats can enter during one day then we see that the client would pay millions of dollars for each day as a fine. For this reason the complete offshore outsourcing campaign will not make any sense because the client will pay in sum more than to let it typing by the most expensive staff of his own company.

So Neelesh, please file a law court case and bring the evidence that I'm wrong in my opinion. I'll bring you the victims, which got already scammed from from 9framez Info Services LLP.

Update November 18, 2015: The following shows how scammer are thinking how they can build up a business and how they are thinking how they can continue if they are getting catched to be scammer.

I have written the article one day after I have warned the scammer Phani Indra - Malladi Phanindra immediately as he had published the scam campaign in Facebook. In the hope that nothing will happen to him, he continued posting copying one campaigns after another from other sources where he even didn't know the source. It did even not make any difference for him if the campaign is genuine or not. He even does not have any knowledge how to identify a scam campaigns and he has ignored my warnings. Only important for him has been to make money. The way to get money and if the payer gets something for his money has not been important for him.

As the most of the campaigns are only available against an advanced fee are the campaigns nothing else than scam. A real client is searching for a broker or consultant which is near of his place and not abroad. The clients likes to have the possibility to make a complaint immediately and directly as soon as something goes wrong. If a client is searching abroad then he is searching directly for a center and not for a middle man. In this case he likes to avoid the kids game "Chinese message" and save the fee for the broker. For this reasons are 99.9% campaign offers with source from low wage countries nothing else than scam.

On this article he has shown an reaction and started to delete the campaign offers from his site after he even used a friend, which tried to explain me in the Facebook group "the campaign is from a friend":

My opinion is that people which have such a kind of friends don't need some enemies - such people are already punished with these kinds of friends!

Afterwards he started to delete the campaign from his site savebpo.com. In the social networks are the offers still available - only the link to his site is not working. Here a screenshot from the scam offer in Facebook from today morning:

As I told him, that he does not have any contract or permission with Deep Blue Marketing and for this he needs to remove the campaigns from Deep Blue Marketing too, he replied: "Are you talking about the UK Boiler Survey campaign with hot key transfer. Project ?". This answer shows that he even does not know the source of the campaigns and he had never any contact with any client or another broker. He has only copied campaigns from suspicious sources in the hope of getting rich from the up-front fees.

After he has deleted some campaigns - only from his site, he sent me the following message at Facebook:

I have just moved all energy campaigns to trash
All done now
I request you to remove my name from your blog
If you find any other scam or fraud projects in my site
Please contact the author

Sorry, but business is not a kindergarten game. For doing business you need to build up a reputation. Only to change the author of the site and using different names for the fraud does not bring a good reputation and does not release the owner of the site from beeing liable for the content. With other words is it nothing else than a nice try for continuing scamming centers by saying it is only a market place. Even a bad reputation is a reputation.

The whole story shows only how the scammers are trying to play man-in-the middle. For the case that the offered campaign is a real campaign how they like to make money with copy & paste. If the campaign is a scam than they get at least the up-front fee. In any case is it scam, because they even don't know who is the provider of the campaign and from where they have copied the campaign.

Original article November 17, 2015: Yesterday I found some unbelievable campaign offers in the social networks. The offers got posted from Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra the owner of the domain savebpo.com. A warning about the scam offers got ignored from him, because today morning the offers still exists in the social networks and on his site savebpo.com. It seems that he thinks that he can get rich by asking an advanced fee from centers. In one worse case he even thinks that he can get 7 Lacs (US$ 10,574) for a campaign where data from the client need to be accessible to the salesperson. The client will get fined from the US FTC (Federal Trade Commission) with US$ 16,000 per record. AT&T had paid in the past for such a failure, where data got stolen during an outsourcing process and the fines have been even cheaper, US$ 25,000,000. This ones, which don't believe it can take a look at the FTC site or at my report about this case.

Not one client will take the risk to get fined. A client likes to save money by an offshore outsourcing process and not pay more than his top workers get paid for doing the job. As in the traditional outsourcing countries (Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.) the consumer and customer data are protected by the data protection law and the fines for breaking the law are very high, not one client will outsource any campaign where the center needs to have access to their database. It does not matter if the data are getting misused by the center or stolen from by a someone else during a data breach. The business owner is liable in any case because he has collected the data.

Let us take a look at the offered scam campaign first

US International Inbound: Insurance Sector

Project description:

US Customer Care Process is to handle Inbound Calls of the customers who wanted to Inquire / Renew / claim / Transfer Insurance / Address or Other Modification.

• +/- Calls could be in Health Insurance in regards to : HMO, PPO, EPO and Miscellaneous Insurance of (Visitor Insurance, Green Card holders Insurance, Student Health Insurance,J1 Visa Insurance, OPT Students Insurance, Europe Travel Insurance, Health Insurance for Visa, International Health Insurance, Group Travel Insurance, Short-term Heath Insurance, Discount Cards, Global Employees Group Insurance .
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Property and Casualty Insurance in regards to: Property (flood, earthquake, home, auto, pet) and Casualty (errors and omissions, workers’ compensation, disability, liability).
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Reinsurance in regards to: Insurance of Proportional, Non Proportional, Risks Attaching Basis, Losses Occurring basis, Claims –Made basis.
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in vehicle Insurance in regards to: insurance of cars, trucks, motorcycles, and other road vehicles.
  
  
• +/- Calls could be in Life and Health insurance in regards to: Insurance of Health (Dental, Vision, Medications), Life (Long-Term Care, Accidental Death and Dismemberment, Hospital Indemnity), Miscellaneous (Europe Travel Insurance, Trip Cancellation Insurance, Cruise Insurance, Missionaries Insurance, marine Crew Insurance), Annuities (Securities) and Life and Annuities.

Seats : 10 Seats X 3 Shift
Payout : $10 Per Hour Per Agent
Billing : Approx 35 lakhs for 30 Seats. (Advance Billing for 1 Month at the time of Go Live)

Payment methodology: The Business Associate will diligently carry out Inbound Customer Care work; Business Associates will get calls on a regular daily basis as per below mentioned terms and conditions. Client agrees to provide Validation formats/Process document and other necessary information for processing documents to the Business Associate at the time of work commencement. The Business Associate shall submit the Reports as per schedule provided by the client; however Payouts are be released after getting the QC report of (bi-weekly) that particular period. The Client will pay each bill within maximum 5th of each month, all then payouts are going to be release after Quality Check Certificate. The Payout can be raised through e-mail or Fax and followed by hard copy. Q.C will be provided in 10-15 working days.

Quality: The Business Associate shall maintain accuracy of 84.99% for the processed as per Quality score card terms and norms. If the Business Associate cannot reach 84.99% accuracy on 1st submission then the Client shall give the Business Associate another 15 days for rectifying the mistake in future workings and there after the Client has the right to terminate this agreement on receiving 3rd Quality report with a further notice.

Documents Required:

• Company Profile and DOT Certificate
• Company’s LOI (Letter of Interest)
• Director’s Proof along with Senior Management Profile
• Pan Card o Company’s Registration Proof
• Center’s Screen Shots

Technical Requirements:

• 2 MBPS Leased Line + Server ( Min 8 GB RAM IBM X360 with Xeon Processor )
• 10-12 Seats capacity with 12 computers along with 12 headphones.
• Dual core Computers (Minimum) + 1 GB RAM.
• Server: “IBM X360 (Xeon Processor) with 8 GB RAM and 1 TB HDD (Minimum or more than that).
• PABX, ACD and CRM are from Client Side 4 MBPS Leased Line or we also accept if center wanted to use their Thin Clients shall operate in a Fiber rich environment with its own bandwidth.
• In Each Slot, A team of 10 (Ten), Agents (the Team), 1 Team Leaders, one Trainer. All mentioned above must be provided in One week, starting from the day this agreement is signed.

Commercial Charges Apply : Signup amount: INR 7,00,000

If you are interested contact us @ contact.savebpo@gmail.com or call us at 9701875999/ 8143444986

Please don’t ask for more details as you got them all in this post.

The offered campaign needs the knowledge of an insurance salesman. The education of an insurance salesman takes in Europe 3 years. How can agents, which don't know anything about insurances and centers where even the center owners don't know something about the law in foreign countries, will be able to handle such a job? How good the education in India is and how much interest about foreign laws gets already shown by offering such a sham campaign. The scammer is even too stupid to invent a real scam campaign.

That education of the scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra has been not better than passing far away from any school gets shown by the fact that he requires IBM X360 Xeon Processor for the center. it shows only that he has no idea about the requirements of a call center and the work of a call center. A client will not load any application to the server of the center. Into forms are getting only some text data to the server of the client submitted. Such a datatransfer to websites can get done at the lowest speed of a mobile Internet connection. Depending on the used codec from the center and the VoIP provider is additional a bandwidth between 8kBit/sec and 80kBit/sec per seat necessary. A bandwith of 1MBit/sec would be plenty enough for a center with 10 agents.

The scammer Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra from savebpo.com seems even to be stupid, because I have warned him in a chat about the scam. As everybody can see it in the provided protocol below he agreed with it and continued to post more of his scam campaigns instead of deleting them. The provided timezone is GMT+1:

1:32pm Save Bpo:
Thank you for your caution
Ill look into this
but i see there are 3 centers running this process from 18 months
Can you help me with this ?

1:45pm Rudolf Faix: You can only delete it because it is against the U.S. consumer protection law. Some other option is not possible

1:45pm Save Bpo:
Hmm, Thank you
Well i got partnered with callcentersindia.com and got these projects
Do you think its worth to work with them ?

1:46pm Rudolf Faix: Each inbound project with consumer data is nothing else than scam (countries: Australia, Canada, European Union, U.S.)

1:47pm Save Bpo:
Sorry
with callcenterpartner.com *

1:47pm Rudolf Faix:
That is nothing else than an advanced fee scam. Agents would even not be able to handle it without a few month training
You should know about the law in the different countries before you are offering something

1:49pm Save Bpo: True

1:49pm Rudolf Faix: the only possible and legit campaigns are lead generation

1:50pm Save Bpo: Ill have a look into them

2:13pm Rudolf Faix: callcenterpartner has the campaign not at their homepage. Have I overseen it?

He did even not stop with his copy and paste process from callcenterpartners.com. He even copied the campaign from Deep Blue Marketing where onshore U.S. centers are getting searched. It seems that he thinks that U.S. companies are searching in India or on India websites for campaigns. For this idea you need to have studied, like he has written on his LinkedIn profile, at the Kakatiya University. We all know that intelligence is not commercially acquirable. Without thinking he has copied all campaigns from callcenterpartners.com - even the scam campaigns where data needs to get used, which are protected by law and not one client will give a center access to these data.

The above campaign gets found in the callcentersform.com and rssing.com. With other words the scammer even does not know from where he is copyng the campaigns. The only purpose or the campaign offers is to get an advance fee. That is nothing else than SCAM!!! All actions of the scammer are showing only how lazy he is. Malladi Phanindra / Phani Indra is even too lazy to invent his own campaigns. It seems to be very hard for someone which likes to have studied at an University to use his brain.

Summary

• Not one client will risk to get fined with millions of dollars for giving you access to his customer database. The fine is much higher then the client is able to save on such a project.
  
  
• Uneducated agents are not able to handle such a job
  
  
• Everwhere where you have to pay to get some campaigns you'll get only scammed
  
  
• Fees for the broker or consultant need to get paid from this one, which hires the broker or consultant and not from the company which shall do the work.
  
  
• Real brokers with a contract with a client have to work for the client and not for the center for this the client has to pay them
  
  
• Scammers like Phani Indra / Malladi Phanindra are thinking they can get rich by creating a website and copy and paste from others without any knowledge of the content. They even don't know that not one client is searching for a broker or consultant from abroad!
  For this reason it does not make any sense to create a platform like savebpo.com in India. Not one client will use it.
  
  
• Scammers from India are normally not listed with their sham companies on the site Ministry of Corporate Affairs (http://www.mca.gov.in/DCAPortalWeb/dca/SearchCIN.do). But be aware you can get scammed from listed companies there too.

Domain registration data from savebpo.com:

Domain Name: SAVEBPO.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1844257178_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-12-24T19:02:11Z
Creation Date: 2014-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-25T23:50:36Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Phani Indra
Registrant Organization: SaveBpo
Registrant Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Registrant Street: Malkajgiri
Registrant City: Hyderabad
Registrant State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 500047
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9701875999
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Phani Indra
Admin Organization: SaveBpo
Admin Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Admin Street: Malkajgiri
Admin City: Hyderabad
Admin State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 500047
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9701875999
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Phani Indra
Tech Organization: SaveBpo
Tech Street: 3-156/9/6,Vimaladevinagar
Tech Street: Malkajgiri
Tech City: Hyderabad
Tech State/Province: Andhra Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 500047
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9701875999
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: kornersudden@hotmail.com
Name Server: NS1.IPAGE.COM
Name Server: NS2.IPAGE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-11-16T12:00:00Z <<<

Recently I got the information about a unbelievable campaign offer in LinkedIn. The offer is from Virat Singh from India. The way the impressing offer is written declares already the scam:

Australian Tourism Inbound Process with high paying /Advance payment

+91-8154002711

The scammer Virat Singh seems not knowing why companies are outsourcing into low wage countries and why not one company or client will not trust and not search for a broker abroad. You can be sure as higher the earning promises about this invented campaign are as higher will be the advanced fee the scammer is asking for and you can be sure that the scammer will disappear or will not be reachable any more as soon as he got the money from the center. Even if the campaign would be offered free of charge you can be sure that the campaign is nothing else than scam because a client or company from Australia is by law not allowed to give you access to their customer or consumer database. Tourism data are personal data from the consumer and this data are protected by the data protection law. For this you will not be able to do something with an inbound caller. For picking up the phone, say a greeting and connect the caller with a responsible person you'll not get paid because that can be done from the person the call should get connected too.

The scammer Virat Singh likes to be a photomodel otherwise he would use his own picture in his profile and not a picture from a photomodel. I think more in his case that he does not like to provide a manhunt picture by himself:

Virat Singh

Business Development Manager at Gobalio

Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India | Outsourcing/Offshoring

LinkedIn public profile: https://in.linkedin.com/in/viratsingh20

Already the fact that Virat Singh has blocked my profile at LinkedIn is confirming his scam. That this action does not help a scammer gets shown here. I have a few family members, which are allowing me to use their login credentials and with the help of some proxy servers a scammer can even not be sure from which country I'm using other login credentials.

I'm more in worry about the center owners, who believe in such a scam offers. It shows only that they even have not any education, don't know anything about outsourcing work, don't know anything about the law in the traditional outsourcing countries and are just thinking that they are able to get rich just by opening a center. People, who are too lazy to inform themselves about the job and the offer are guilty by themselves if they get scammed.

Everything which sounds too good to be true isn't true. So you should read the previous comments too. Virat Singh has clearly stated the scam in his own comment:

We charge Upfront . Because we are Providing Authentic BPO Projects Contact Only If You are Legitimate Business Man

The problem is only that the scammer Virat Singh is by himself not a legitimate business man. He even does not know who has to pay a broker. A broker gets paid from the company which hires him. He has to work in the interests of the company he pays him and for this reason is there no client behind the invented campaign. The whole campaign is nothing else than an advance fee scam.

Centers if you have too much money support the poor ones instead of such a scammers like Virat Singh. If you are supporting the poor people you'll even are making the world to a better place. I'm sure that if you are going out of your house or flat you'll find enough people which need your support.

Here are the screen shots from the scam offer for the case that LinkedIn has taken the scam campaign already offline:

Not one client from the traditional outsourcing countries will search for a broker or consultant abroad. The clients like to have a security and for this reason they will hire a outsourcing broker or consultant which is living near of them. For the case that something is running wrong with the project they are in this case immediately able to make a complain directly. The client would have not more security if he would hire a center directly instead a broker or consultant from abroad. The client would even save the salary for the broker. Why in this case should he hire a broker or consultant from abroad? Based on this rule are 99.99% of all the outsourcing campaign offers with source in the low wage countries are nothing else than SCAM!!!

It seems that an old well known scammer - Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd. - is already not able to pay their staff. That is normally the start of the end from a company because the unpaid staff will become a whistle blower. So it seems to be happened to Harsha Urs too. Harsha Urs sent out with Facebook messaging and posted in the India Consumer Complaints Forum the following information:

Hello friends! I am going to introduce an organization WHITEWAVE OUTSOURCING as a fraud organization. It will take money from clients and then not provide the services in a proper manner. At the same time it will not provide salary to employees.

Organization provide me the cheque of below details
Bank- ICICI Bank
Branch- M.I.Road Branch JAIPUR- 302001.
A/c no. 676405500146
Organization Name- Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd.
Cheque No. 038608
Date of issue- 1/11/2015

I submit the cheque on 4th Nov but when the cheque goes into process stage they canceled the cheque.

Contact Numbers of Amigos Outsourcing Pvt. Ltd are not working.
Contact number of my senior Mr. Ansh Rawat- 7874485470 is switched off
Contact number of my peer Kunal- 9015744403 is switched off
Owner name Rajeev Lamba. Pan No.- ABZPL9242R
Organization Pan Card No.AACFW1203D

I left the organization last month. Please do not sign any agreement with them. If you want to do FIR or want to take any legal action you can go through for that.

A short Google search found the website whitewaveoutsourcing.com (2016-02-25: Link removed website already not reachable) and at the website there are three non-voice campaign offers. One is an insurance form filling project and the second one is Data Mangement Form Filling. Both are Word or PDF copy and paste work. From the nature of the data protection law in the traditional outsourcing countries are both projects nothing else than a scam offer. The third project should be an E-Book Publishing project where each seat has a work load of 500 books, which need to get converted from "Word to URL". As the nature of e-books is that they are already digital and not in Word available is even this project nothing else a scam.

As all the three projects are only scams are even no clients for the offered projects available. The company Whitewave Outsourcing likes only to scam the centers. For scamming clients are they too stupid to get clients.

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Nice from Harsha Urs to provide the tax registration data from Whitewave Outsourcing for the case that someone like to bring them in front of the law court:

Update Jan. 18, 2017:
Link from the Facebook profile Harsha Urs (https://www.facebook.com/harsha.urs.7) removed as it returns error 404 - not found.

Scammers like WeyBee Solutions - Sangini Mishra from venturasoftwares.com can get easily identified by reading their offers. Such scammers don't have any education and no idea from outsourcing work. As they are even too lazy to learn this scammers are offering campaigns which are not possible by the data protection law in the traditional outsourcing countries.

You can also be sure that not one outsourcing client is searching for a broker or consultant abroad. In such a case the outsourcing client could search for center which is doing his work directly and save the payment for the broker or consultant. An outsourcing client is searching for a broker or consultant in his area for the reason that if something is running wrong to have someone to complain directly.

The email from Sangini Mishra - you'll find my comments after each offer:

From: sangini mishra [mailto:sanginimishra259@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:49 PM
Subject: BPO PROJECTS

 

HI ,

Greetings from VS,

We are international BPO Provider.

Our Company and Projects details are as below.

 

Ventura software’s is a fast growing Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) and a Data Center Solutions Company based at Gujarat, India. We provide cost effective and value added Data Center solutions to our clients. We leverage on our experience and expertise to offer unmatched BPO and Data Center services. Our solutions are customized to reduce cost, increase productivity and quality.

you can visit our website www.venturasoftwares.com

 

Project Details:-

 

1) HR PAY ROLL

This project is an online project .

you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 31 fields in a one form.

We will provide you minimum 180 forms and maximum 200 forms per day per seat.

Payout is Rs 1 per field i.e. Rs 31 per form.

Rework will also provide, if you will get low accuracy.

 

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 139500/- with maximum forms (4500*31) per seat.

This Projects work is available for Monday to Friday (5 days a week). Saturday is available for rechecking the work.

Advance charges is  Rs22000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

95.01%-100.00%                   :   100% PAYMENT

90.01%-95.00%                     :    80%  PAYMENT

85.01%-90.00%                     :    60%  PAYMENT

80.01%-85.00%                     :    40%  PAYMENT

75.01%-80.00%                     :    20%  PAYMENT

61.01%-75.00%                     :    1 TIME REWORK FOR FIRST MONTH

< 60.01%                                :    NO REWORK

The facts:

• Payroll calculation gets done monthly
• The data for the payroll calculation are getting stored in a database
• Each database has an import and export function
• Payroll data are protected by law in the traditional outsourcing countries

If you are using your brain then you'll get it that the above campaign is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Not one company makes the payroll calculation manually
  
  
• Each payroll calculation program stores the data in a database and each database has an import/export function. So why someone needs to enter data manually if he has the possibility to do it fast and with 100% accuracy?
  
  
• A company, which has a staff count of more than 4000 (200 forms per agent per day * 20 days per month) has the necessary reporting software to get the results with 100% accuracy and by pressing only one button. They don't need some manually with failures entered data!!!
  
  
• If you take a look at the accuracy table then you already get it that they have the data available to verify the entered data. So why they shall pay you for something they don't need?
  
  
• Why a company shall take the risk getting fined by outsourcing such a kind of data processing?

2) FISCAL

This project is an offline project , you have to fill the entries on the client software.  There are 28 fields in a one form.

We will provide you 6000 forms for 25 days per seat.

Payout is Rs 22 per form.

Monthly earning with full accuracy is 1,32,000/

Rework will also provide, if you will get low accuracy.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance charges will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

98% - 100%          : Rs 22 per form

96% - 97.99%       : Rs17 per form

93% - 95.99%       : Rs 13 per form

90% - 92.99%       : Rs 9 per form

87% - 89.99%       : Rs 5 per form

85% - 86.99%       : Rework available once

< 85%                   : NO REWORK

The facts:

• Not one company will make their tax reporting manually.
• In the most traditional outsourcing countries are getting tax declarations transmitted electronically
• Failures is reporting tax will result in a fine in the high of 100% of the wrong reported tax

By using your own brain then you'll find out the above work is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Not one company makes the tax calculation manually
  
  
• Each tax calculation program stores the data in a database and each database has an import/export function and each tax calculation program will transmit the results directly to the tax office or will generate the complete form for the tax office. So why someone needs to enter data manually if he has the possibility to do it fast and with 100% accuracy?
  
  
• A company, which has a staff count of more than 6000 (6000 forms per agent per month) has the necessary tax calculation and reporting software to get the results with 100% accuracy and by pressing only one button. They don't need some manually with failures entered data!!!
  
  
• If you take a look at the accuracy table then you already get it that they have the data available to verify the entered data. So why they shall pay you for something they don't need?
  
  
• Tax data are protected by the data protection law. So why shall a company take the risk getting fined by outsourcing such a kind of data processing?

3) PURCHASE

This project is an offline project, you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 38 fields in a one form.

We will provide you minimum 230 forms and maximum 250 forms per day per seat.

Payout is Rs 0.55 per field i.e.Rs 20.9 per form.

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 114950/- with maximum forms (5500*20.9) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

95.01%-100.00%          :   50 paisa per field

90.01%-95.00%            :   30 paisa per field

85.01%-90.00%            :    20 paisa per field

80.01%-85.00%            :    10 paisa per field

< 80.01%                      :    NO REWORK

purchase.docx (291.43 kb)

The Word document contains only the following screenshot:

Such a form filling is useless for the following reasons:

• As at the scan is no billing address found is it not possible to use such a bill in the financial records of the buyer. The buyer could collect the trashed bills in front of the supermarket too.
  
  
• The supermarket itself has a digital readable form stored in their own database. They don't need manual entered data.
  
  
• As there are accuracy parameters given are the correct data available for calculating the accuracy result. So why someone should pay you for something what is available?

4) MEDICLAIM

This project is an offline project , you have to fill the entries on the client software.       There are 70 fields in a one form.

We will provide you 4000 forms for 22 days per seat.

Payout is Rs 0.50 per field i.e. Rs 35 per form.

Monthly Earnings with full accuracy is Rs. 140000/- (4000*35) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs18000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

100%- 97%        :  35 INR/FORM

96.9%-93%        :  30  INR/FORM

92.9%-87%         :  20  INR/FORM

86.9%-80%         :  7  INR/FORM

79.9%-60%         :   3  INR/FORM

59.9%-40%         :   1  INR/FORM

< 40%                 :   NO REWORK

mediclaim.docx (286.73 kb)

The Word document contains only the following screenshot:

The offered form filling process is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• Medical data are in the traditional outsourcing countries - in this case USA - highly protected by law. Fines for breaking the law are dramatically and ruinous. Not one company takes the risk to get fined for breaking the law.
  
  
• As in the USA are getting such data directly collected at the place where the data apply. This data are getting transmitted electronically to the insurance company. There is no reason to enter data manually.
  
  
• Here does the scammer even don't know who is responsible for bandwidth, server, software, training, technical  support. The outsourcing client likes to get the work done on his way. For this are all this charges the problem of the client and not the problem of the center which is doing the work!!! Maybe the scammer has been drunk or under drugs by inventing this caampaign.

5) Checking Work:-

250 pages will provide for checking

Time Duration is 15 Days.

Monthly earning with full accuracy is Rs. 25000/-

Advance charges is  Rs10000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

90.1% - 100.0%      :25,000/- (Rs 100/- Per page)

80.1% - 90.0%        :18,750/- (Rs 75/- Per Page)

70.1% - 80.0%        :12,500/- (Rs 50/- Per Page) 

60.1% - 70.0%        :6250/- (Rs 25/- Per Page)

50.1% - 60.0%        :3000/- (Rs 12/- Per Page)    

Below 50.1%           :Nil (Slot terminate)

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I have converted the .tif file to a standard .jpg file to show it immediately here:

The above offered work is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• As we see the above text is nothing else than a scanned computer printout. That means the text is already electronically stored available. The owner of the copyright has the text in a computer readable form stored available. If someone else like to copy it, than is it against the copyright law and the fines for breaking the copyright law are very high in the traditional outsourcing countries. For this reason nobody will offer such a work.
  
  
• As this job has accurancy parameters given, the result needs to get proven against the available data. So why someone shall pay you for a work, which is already done?

6) EXCEL

This project is an offline project,  you have to fill the entries on the client software.

There are 15 columns in a one row.

Time Duration is 11  Days.

We will provide you 5000 rows per seat.

Payout is Rs 9 per row.

Earnings with full accuracy is Rs.35000/- (5000*7) per seat.

Advance charges is  Rs10000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance  charges  will be refundable at the end of agreement

Payout is based on following accuracy parameter.

97.01%-100.00%   :   INR 7.00 per row

95.01%-97.00%     :   INR 5.50 per row

94.51%-95.01%     :   INR 4.50 per row

93.01%-94.01%     :   INR 3.50 per row

92.01%-93.01%     :   INR 2.00 per row

90.01%-92.01%     :   INR 1.00 per row

< 90.01%               :   No Rework

The above work offer is nothing else than scam for the following reasons:

• We see that the content is nothing else than a computer generated list. If a computer can generate the list the above way then it is possible to generate the output result in the way how the data are needed. That is a much faster and cheaper way than to enter the data manually. So why someone should pay you for something what he can have faster and with 100% accuracy.
  
  
• As there are accuracy parameters in the project offer are the data already available to calculate the accuracy. So why someone should give you work and pay you for it if he has the result already available?

 7) LOAN

This project is an online project, you have to fill the entries on the client software.

We will provide you 26 forms per day per seat.

There are 250 to 300 fields in a one form.

Working day is Tuesday to Saturday (5 days a week) and working hours is 8 per day.

Payout is fixed USD 1000 per month per seat.

There is NO accuracy level.

There is NO BLANK field allowed.

Advance charges is  Rs22000/-per seat for bandwidth charges, server  charges, software’s charges, training charges, technical  supports charges

Advance charges is fully refundable in the  1^st billing.

loan1.TIF (139.16 kb)

I have converted the above .tif file to a standard .jpg file to show the form here:

The above form filling offer is nothing else than scam, because banking data (loan are banking data) are highly protected by the data protection law. Such data are getting collected at the front desk of the bank where their client is asking for the loan. The banking staff is updating or entering the data directly to the computer. There is no reason to outsource such a work and take the risk for getting fined from the government.

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if you have any queries than contact us.
Please fill free to contact us.
Contact details: Sangini Mishra
Contact number: 7048278826

Thanks & Regards

Sangini  Mishra

If some center owner gets scammed from WeyBee Solutions - venturasoftwares.com - Sangini Mishra, then he is guilty by himself because he is more stupid than the scammer.

The fact that the work is for the center only against hudge up-front fees available confirms that the scammer WeyBee Solutions - venturasoftwares.com - Sangini Mishra has no contract with any client and for this reason no other income possibility than the up-front fee. Every word in the above email is nothing else than a big lie!!!

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