Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

This campaign offer is not a scam, but in summary is it even worse than a SCAM because the client likes even to earn from the call center. But the centers are guilty by themselves, if they are accepting the conditions in the contract. Each business owner need to know what he is doing and he is responsible for his own decision.

The client is Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. located at 2419 E Commercial Blvd Ste 100, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308-4042, website http://www.bahamascruiseregistration.com. By taking a look at the website of the U.S. Better Business Bureau (BBB) then we’ll find about the Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. that there have been during the last 3 years 1,253 complaints closed with the BBB from which have been 335 during the last 12 months. Already this shows which kind of business this company is running and how they are handling their customers. You’ll find at the site a government action too, which you can find in my article “FTC and ten state attorneys general take action against political survey robocallers pitching cruise line vacations to the Bahamas”.

Responsible for this campaign is The Marketing Source, Inc. located in 12551 Indian Rocks Rd. Suite 2, Largo., FL 33774 with owner Vance Vogel. A Robbie Middleton is promoting this campaign and makes the billing for this campaign. I don’t know if the conditions for this campaign got invented from the Caribbean Cruise Line, Inc. or from The Marketing Source, Inc. It does not really matter, but these conditions are a simple rip-off for the call centers which are working for them:

• The center is requited to use their CallAssistant System. The center has to pay $10 per week and per connection. The center is required to have at least 10 agents where each agent needs to handle 2 connections at the same time.
  That does not sound very much, but it is at least $200 per week and the center does not really get something for it. My opinion is that profiteering because the phone system itself has a value of around $500 - $600 and the CallAssistant system can only get used for the CCL campaign. This one which likes that this system has to get used has to pay for it. The call center has no benefit from it.
  
  
• CPD (Cost Per Deal) factor (see the Word document VVT CPD Explanation.docx (17.84 kb))
  The CPD reduces or increases the payout for the successful transfer. Already the name proves the cheat. The client does not have any costs per deal as the center gets billed for usage of their systems and for the VoIP minutes. Whether Caribbean Cruise Lines neither The Marketing Source is able to give an explanation for these costs per deal. With other words they like to make money from the call center.
  
  The costs per deal are even getting increased (lower payout for the center) for the following conditions:
  
  • Transferring a call where no customer was on the line
    Each cold called customer will hang up if he needs to wait too long for a transfer. In this case is not the call center which is transferring the call guilty
    
    
  • Transferring a call where the customer was not interested
    That depends on the mood of the agent which is picking up the line during the life transfer too and cannot get controlled from the sending center.
    
    
  • Transferring a call where the customer did not have a credit or debit card
    If the agent which picks up the line is not friendly or says the wrong words, I'll say that I have no credit cards too even if I have said before that I have one. Such a case can get proved by listening the recordings of the sending center only.
    
    
  • Transferring a call where mandatory recordings were not played
    If the CallAssistant system is good instead of quick and dirty programmed, then the transfer would not be possible if the mandatory recordings were not played.

  I have seen by myself that additional to the above rules is the transfer counter working wrong. It are getting 40% more transfers counted as really happened and it are getting calls transferred without any action of the agent. All this failures seems to have the only purpose to minimize the payout of the call center.

• The center is to required to buy VoIP from them
  Together with the other facts is this behaviour strange, because this one, which pays for it has to be able to chose the provider to buy from. As The Marketing Source Inc. and/or the Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. are showing at the points above that they even try to earn by profiteering from the call centers are even here only end user prices billed and not reseller prices.

By taking a look at the website of Caribbean Cruise Line Inc. (http://www.bahamascruiseregistration.com/) we see that their business model is not a trusted one and in not conform with any fair trading standards. At Google are getting a lot more complaints about the Caribbean Cruise Line Inc. found. I list here only a few. At Cruise Critic we can find that the passengers have to participate at a five hours timeshare presentation. At CBS news you can read how their customer get handled and your lead destroyed at the call center you’ll transfer the customer. Some of their methods are getting described at the Rip-Off Report, Complaints Board and Jim Walker’s Cruise Law News. Even at the customer reviews of the U.S. Better Business Bureau are 75% reporting a negative experience, 66.67% will not recommend and 33.33% are undecided in recommending this company.

You see how the Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. is handling their customers. Think about it how you will get handled from them as their supplier! A result can be looking like the following weekly billings sent out from The Marketing Source – Robbie Middleton:

Everybody which is working with such a company like Caribbean Cruise Lines Inc. need not wondering himself if the shit from them is coloring themselves too! A business which has during the last 3 years in average 1.15 complaints to get handled per day from the U.S. Better Business Bureau is fighting for the last cent until a government institution will force them to pay. A serious business will avoid to get listed in such a way at the U.S. Better Business Bureau.

Brokers are getting paid from their client to find call centers doing their campaigns and for this the broker are not asking if the center can make profit or not. Scammers like Omer Ali - Oceanspace Innovative service pvt Ltd are offering this campaign against an up-front fee of 2 Lakhs (INR 200,000 ~ US$ 3,014). You can now calculate yourself that in the case you get the campaign from the scammer and you make some little earnings with this campaign that you'll need years for getting your up-front fees back.

Domain registration data from themarketingsource.com:

Domain Name: THEMARKETINGSOURCE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1502506868_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2014-06-13T14:33:04Z
Creation Date: 2008-06-26T18:43:43Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-06-26T18:43:43Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Vance Vogel
Registrant Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Registrant Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Registrant City: Largo
Registrant State/Province: Florida
Registrant Postal Code: 33774
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.7272167773
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: admin@themarketingsource.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Vance Vogel
Admin Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Admin Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Admin City: Largo
Admin State/Province: Florida
Admin Postal Code: 33774
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.7272167773
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: sales@themarketingsource.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Vance Vogel
Tech Organization: The Marketing Source, Inc
Tech Street: 12551 Indian Rocks
Tech City: Largo
Tech State/Province: Florida
Tech Postal Code: 33774
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.7272167773
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: sales@themarketingsource.com
Name Server: NS8047.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS8048.HOSTGATOR.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-09-01T7:00:00Z <<<

Update September 5, 2015: Vance Vogel from The Marketing Source sent a statement from the FTC under which conditions prerecorded messages are allowed to getting played. This statement can get found in the article "FTC Statement Virtual Voice Technology - CallAssistant, L.C. - submitted by The Marketing Source - Vance Vogel"

Update September 7, 2015: Robbie Middleton from The Marketing Source sent a statement. This statement can get found in the article "The Marketing Source - Robbie Middleton - sent a bad joke instead of a proof"

It is difficult for offshore call centers to provide their services by using a legal way. On one side they need to work lucrative on the other side they need to keep themselves on the law and government regulations of the destination country of their calls, what makes their work very difficult.

If you are watching the following video or read the transcript from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan, then you’ll get it that you are not allowed to greet the called one with a recording and if the center likes to sell something – what is in the most cases the reason for the call from an offshore call center – then the client of the center needs to have a written permission of their victims, which should get called.

The first problem with the greeting done by a life person can get easily handled by adjusting the dial system that every time is at least one free agent is available who can take the call immediately and greet the called one.

If the client provides calling data the second problem can get solved too. In respect to the data protection law is the client not allowed to provide more detailed information as can get found in a public phone directory. In any case should keep the center a copy of the data transmission or the email with the access to the data for having a proof. The center shall keep the proofs at least 10 years in evidence.

We can find the following explanations from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan about Robocalls at the homepage of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC):

Few things can be more annoying than answering the phone while you're in the middle of something — and then being greeted by a recording.

If you receive a robocall trying to sell you something (and you haven’t given the caller your written permission), it’s an illegal call. You should hang up. Then, file a complaint with the FTC and the National Do Not Call Registry.

Transcript from the video above:

If you have a telephone, robocalls may be ruining your day. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you answer the phone and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, it's a robocall. If the recording is a sales message and you haven't given your written permission to get calls from the company on the other end, the call is illegal period.

So when you get an illegal robocall, here's what to do. Hang up the phone. Don't press one to speak to a live operator. And don't press any other number to get off the list. If you respond by pressing any number, it will probably just lead to more robocalls.

You might consider contacting your phone provider and asking them to block the number and whether they charge for that service. Remember that telemarketers change caller ID information easily and often. So it might not be worth paying a fee to block a number that will change.

Finally, contact the FTC to report your experience. You can do that online at ftc.gov or by calling 1-877-FTC-HELP. To learn more about illegal robocalls and what the FTC is doing to stop them, visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Another video from the FTC attorney Kati Daffan give some more information:

Transcript of the video above:

If you have a telephone, it probably seems like illegal robo calls are out of control. I'm Kati Daffan, an attorney at the Federal Trade Commission. If you pick up the phone, and hear a recorded message instead of a live person, that's a robocall.

Consumers are getting more and more robo calls, and they are not happy about it. As the number of calls has multiplied, the number of complaints has, too. The reason for the spike in robo calls has to do with technology. Companies are using auto dialers, that can send out thousands of phone calls every minute, for an incredibly low cost.

What's important is that the companies that use this technology don't bother to screen for the numbers on the National Do Not Call Registry. If a company doesn't care about obeying the law, you can be sure they're trying to scam you. You've probably gotten robo calls about candidates running for office, or charities asking for donations. These robo calls are allowed. But any robo call that's trying to sell you something probably is illegal, unless you've given your written permission to get calls from that company.

The FTC has stopped billions, yes billions, of robo calls in the last two years. Tracing these calls is a tough job, and there are a few reasons for that. One, is that many different companies use the same, or very similar, recorded messages. Another, is that they fake the caller ID information that you see on your phone. That's called caller ID spoofing, and new technology makes it very easy to do. And the third, is that the robo callers often place the calls through internet technology, that hides their location.

At the FTC, we're continuing our aggressive enforcement efforts. And we're also looking for innovative, technological solutions to the robo call problem. For more information, please visit ftc.gov/robocalls. That's ftc.gov/robocalls.

Source: The Federal Trade Commission

Don’t forget that the fines in the U.S. are very high. Everybody who needs to defend himself in front of the law court will think first about himself and will very fast forget his given promises only for the reason that the fine will be a little bit less drastically. Your client will be coming first into the focus of the investigators, because you are selling his products. So your client or broker will in the best case provide the contact details of his partner in crime to the state attorney for getting a better deal for his own judgement. He will even try to make you alone guilty for his own fails. You need to have in this case proofs for your own protection and defense.

Krishna Varma does not know that blackmailing is a crime in each country. It is a pity that he got scammed, but that does not give him the right to become himself a criminal and blackmail others which have nothing to do with his case. He tries even to blackmail people which like to help him. Such a person has never learned something or have visited any school and cannot be a trusted business partner. With other words Krishna Varma did everything wrong what he could do wrong. Instead of asking for help and helping by the investigation he tried to blackmail everybody, which he found. With his try to blackmail others he destroyed every possibility that someone can help him.

If someone enters into a business, which does not bring him the expected profit, then he has the possibility to cancel the contract as soon as he gets it that he does not make any profit or he makes some losses. Blackmailing is not a legal way to correct his own wrong decision.

Krishna Varma from Hyderabad, email: iamkrishnavarma@gmail.com, does not understand how the offshore outsourcing business is functioning. Now he tries to impress with big words, baseless threats and blackmailing legal working companies. He is guilty by himself that he got scammed. He simple did not do his homework by making a background check. The mentioned campaign is for centers free available because the broker gets paid from the client.

That is a pity that he got scammed, but he can only file a case against this one, whom he has paid or he has made a contract and not against someone else. If he has paid any upfront fee then this one, which has taken the money has no contract with the client and would have disappeared already. The campaign itself is available for call centers free of charge and does not require any payments. Brokers and customers from brokers are not getting entertained.

The client will not pay something for that what he is not guilty for the case that he got scammed by the man in the middle method. If Krishna Varma likes to lose more money in such a case, than he can file a court case at the local court of the client. The Supreme Court and the court in India are not responsible for the case he has a contract with an U.S. company. Such a threat shows that Krishna Varma anything from business law. It would be recommended that he consults a good local attorney before he attacks others for his own fails. A cheaper way would be to file a case at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC has for this purpose an Complaint Assistant, which can get found at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/.

It is in the US not illegal to hire offshore call centers for calling US customers. Would it be illegal then he liked to be a partner in crime of an illegal activity. He needs to provide victims and proves that called customers got cheated. That will be very difficult for an outsider.

Everybody, who made wrong investments, is guilty by himself. The business is hard and not a playground. Maybe Krishna Varma thinks that he is still playing in the sandpit. If Krishna Varma has made investments without having a valid contract with the client then he is guilty by himself because he did not prove the promises and trusted to the words of the scammer.

I got forwarded the following email with the comment from Robbie Middleton: “I have never seen this name Krishna Varma.”. As I only try to help by listing the scammers without any financial interest I have tried to get in contact with Krishna Varma and asked him to send me the email headers for finding out the scammers. He sent an answer how he felt betrayed, but he did not send one of the email headers, which makes it possible to find the man in the middle. That a man in the middle is exists is fact because he is not known from the client, but he can work.

Instead of delivering the necessary data he tried to attack me too with a baseless complaint where even not proves can get listed and tried to blackmail me too:

http://www.complaintboard.com/rudolf-faix-complaints-l27003.html

 

What is this What the fuck you are doing from peoples Please i have no time to argue with you ok Kindly  tell To robbie to refund my loss pr else i will make you also in the list By a screen shot of your mail

If someone is listing scammer and scams then you'll find revenges wherever some postings are not getting verified. As I'm not offering something or selling something on the Internet I'm not interested in such a case to take any action against such a posting - it would keep me only busy. If someone does not trust me for such a unproved posting than it his problem and not mine. I have not more and not less if someone belives me or not.

Maybe Krishna Varma has been on drugs or drunk as he has written the following email:

From: Krishna Varma [mailto:iamkrishnavarma@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:08 AM
To: middleton
Subject: Fwd: Final Notice For you all TMS/VVT

 

Hello

TMS/VVT

My self i am Krishna Varma  From Hyderabad Leaving near by Your Head Office of VVT .

I have gathered total 19 companies which have been gone loss because of you all and also for your idiotic commissions and VOIP CPD . So here we are gathered and going to file a complaint on India And on the same way at Your place you i think the location of your Judicial Is http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/ and also at http://www.largo.com/department/division.php?structureid=33 and also on India and also in bangladesh and in india total 4 states were ready to put a case on their places and  I know the main Secrets of your business its an illegal to run an BPO Numbers dailling from India and also cheating USA citizens with your Technology.

The Final Conclussion is You have to pay the loss of mines or else i will be go head with all those companies and we all will send you to prison . with complete documentations and posters are also ready to post on your area walls and also in Web and linked IN with complete proofs and conversations of Robbie Vance Donna Dylan And new Guy VVT dont know his name perfectly . even i posted a complaint on your company but no response even a idiot have been commented too i wont leave any . and listen i invested 5 lakhs for systems and salaries of 4 months even i dint paid any uprent to any one i directly contacted to Robbie by seeing add on BPO Friends. 

No more Discussions if you all want to survive cool with your business you have to pay my loss of 3 Lakh because systems are my own no need for that . or else your company will we seased and you all will be in prison . for this even i will spend more 5 Lakhs to do this all. 

If you want you close this issue cool and calm then credit my amount on my account . 

If you wont reply to this mail you will directly get a call . from were the call comes even you wont think .

i am really frustrated with you all i just done for 4 months i have 5 lakhs loss if i do it for 1 year i have to die . if it comes i will die by writing your names and i will mention because of Robbie and Vance i am going to die . 

So clear this issue as soon as possible by this week or else the posts and posters will be going every were and every websites and linked in too... 

And VVT  this message is for the Indian guy you cant understand this tell him to read this 

Hello mr VVT naku ne peru telusu ne vuru telusu me babu garu cheyse pani telusu mariyadhaga nuvu indhulo nunchi thapuko ledu ante ne medha kuda kalipe vestha case motham 24 companies ready ga unnai case veyatanike aa robbie and vance gadi valla naku ochinna nastam 5 lakhs and VOIP baga yekuvga vesthunadu unlimited voip na dagara monthly 500$ ke chesthunna kotha campaigns anni . kani TMS vadu 1350$ for one month ante yearly 1 crore aaa motham motham baitake lagutha nenu yevaro telusukovali anni undhi kada na peru Krishna Varma . na status and na background chupistha . manchiga job cheskuntuunav and freelance lo manchi rating undhi andhuloni ma vurru dagara nundi ochi HYD lo yedo cheskuntunav  chesko kani VVT nunchi thapuko . na dagara proofs tho ready ga unna thatukoleyv direct ga ralengi vellipothav thamudu . 

naku niku ye kakshalu levu kani TMS ekada Indians ne loss chestunaru musti padesthunadu edheyna mana India meda unna respect aaa. 

Voip kavali ante nene estha okka company Voip Kosam valake nenu pay cheskunta . free ga thiskomanu voip charges lekunda bills veyamanu .

Conclusion For this all issues Pay my loss or else Make profits to the centers from now on wards. change your attitude and Way of your Commissions . 

Krishna Varma needs to understand first that he is guilty for his losses by himself. Nobody is pressured into working on this campaign. There are other campaigns without any up-front fees available too. The demand determines the supply. That means if nobody likes to take a campaign then the payment will rise and if many centers like to get this campaign than the payment will come down.

We can compare this case with the following email:

Hello Good day and How are you?
Firstly, I apologize for sending you this sensitive information via E-mail.
I am Mr. George Culmer from Lloyds banking Group United Kingdom.  I saw your
profile and I want to have a Joint Venture with you. You can view my website
and contact me for more details.
http://www.lloydsbankinggroup.com/Our-Group/directors/#
PLEASE REPLY ON THIS Email WITH YOUR MOBILE TEL: georgecul042@gmail.comMr.
George Culmer.
Mobile: +44 708 769 1912

The email looks like someone is searching a business partner, but this is only done at the first view. If we take a look at the email headers then we see the source of the email (I have made the source ip bold):

Return-path: <maria@villegaseditores.com>
Envelope-to: someone@somewhere.com
Delivery-date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:28:43 -0400
Received: from [66.132.241.237] (port=42078
helo=server.villegaseditores.com)
        by wdc003.hawkhost.com with esmtps
(TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256)
        (Exim 4.85)
        (envelope-from <maria@villegaseditores.com>)
        id 1ZV3mt-000G6N-2Q
        for someone@somewhere; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:28:43 -0400
Received: (qmail 13411 invoked by uid 48); 27 Aug 2015 05:48:04 -0400
Received: from 41.220.68.246 ([41.220.68.246]) by
 webmail.villegaseditores.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015
 05:48:03 -0400
Message-ID: <20150827054803.160813uan4n3913n@webmail.villegaseditores.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:48:03 -0400
From: George Culmer <maria@villegaseditores.com>
Reply-to: georgecull042@gmail.com
To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
Subject: JOIN VENTURE
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=ISO-8859-1;
 DelSp="Yes";
 format="flowed"
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9)
X-EsetId: 37303A296EDFC361617D62

If we take now a look at the location of the ip 41.220.68.246 we will find out that the email got sent from:

IP Address	Country	Region	City	ISP
41.220.68.246	Nigeria	Lagos	Lagos	Ip Adddress Assigned To Mtn N Mobile Data Services.

Does anybody think that this location is a trusted source?

Does anyone think that Lloyds Banking Group will refund the losses which you'll make with this scam?

If you are not making any background check in such a case and you'll make business in such a case you'll be guilty by yourself for your losses. If you even don't help any investigation in such a case than you are even stupid and have no chance to get anything back.

TechSai Solutions is hiding their identity on the web completely. They are using the free hosting service from webs.com, a free email address from outlook.com and a reply address to techsaisolutions@gmail.com. They don’t have any contact address at their website. Scammers like to have the possibility to disappear easily.

As TechSai Solutions has not enough money for an own domain is their offer nothing else than scam. Every real company takes the comfort of having a real domain and is using their real address for registering it. 

The offered Form Filling process without any accuracy is a dream. Not one client will give you any work without any quality parameters. Don’t forget that the personal computer is nearly 40 years old and for this you’ll not get any form filling process. Millions of data are getting converted every day. This data are getting converted by using programs with 100% accuracy in seconds and not by manual entering them.  Conversation programs are available for a price of under $100 if they are not already included in the toolset of the database. Why shall in this case a company spend thousands of dollars if they can get it for less than $100 and done it within a few minutes?

This is the scam email only for the purpose to scam for an upfront fee (One-Time Consultancy Fees) - If you have paid the scammer will simple disappear:

From: outlook_afd40a95a2f770d0@outlook.com [mailto:outlook_afd40a95a2f770d0@outlook.com] On Behalf Of TechSai Solutions
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:18 AM
Subject: Data Form Filling Process with Fixed Payout (Without Accuracy)‏‏‏‏‏‏

 

HELLO CENTERS

GREETINGS FOR THE DAY,

 We TechSai Solutions are looking for Call Centers who are interested in working on a Data Form Filling Process which is having a Fixed Payout.

For this process / campaign mentioned , the Client will provide an Online Portal to work on and the Agents need to fill the data which would be provided from the Client end on daily basis and submit the same. The demo form & demo data will be provided to the Center if required. The agents need to achieve a Target of 20 forms / agent / day. 

If we have to estimate, approximately 15 minutes are taken on an average by an agent to fill 1 form; if the Calculation is taken further the agents can approximately Fill 25 – 30 Forms very easily on each day basis.

 

Requirements to be fulfilled by the Centre for Client
Working Hours	As per Indian Hours
	Maximum working hours- 08 Hours / day
Working Days	Monday – Friday
Working Timings	09:00 Am – 05:00 Pm ( Indian Standard Time)
Target	20 Forms / per agent / per day
Training	Demo Training provided from Client End.
	05 Days Training.
	Training provided would be a Dummy Training.
	Training period not counted in Billing.

 

The process is a Fixed Payout Process. Client would be paying $1100 USD for each employee per month. The Fixed pay would be payable by the Client to the Center until the ongoing Contract is Valid as per the Time Period mentioned.

Also the Contract can be further renewed for following 3 Years, depending on the quality and productivity of the Agents and the renegotiation.

The Client will be providing a Bank Guarantee of $10500 USD from their Respective Bank and would be confirmed payable at any Nationalized Bank. The Bank Guarantee is provided for Security of the Center working on the process.

Where-as the Monthly Payout payment would be carried via Wire Transfer. There would be No Deduction or Hold of any payment.

One-Time Consultancy Fees

Royalty Not Charged

Centers interested in the Process can contact us via E-mail or Skype to discuss regarding the process.

--

Regards

TechSai Solutions

 

Website: - www.techsaisolutions.webs.com

Skype: - TechSaiSupport

Everybody is stupid and guilty by himself if he pays anything to them. He will get nothing in return!

Wesley Jon Pollard seems to be a scammer, but everybody, who’s got scammed from him, is guilty by himself. Wesley Jon Pollard could not show his face in the social networks and he did not have an own domain. He used the free hosting service from weebly for offering his scam campaigns. These people who have got scammed did not make their homework and there has even been nothing for making a background check. Their own greediness by hunting for a campaign has been the reason for their problems now.

At his LinkedIn account from Wesley Jon Pollard we’ll find a recommendation from a LinkedIn member Barry Bermudez. As Barry Bermudez has given him a recommendation is now the question open if Barry Bermudez is a partner in crime or not?

Updated August 28, 2015 (For this part are updates available take a look at the updates at the end of this article): Another partner in crime can be Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano (no public profile - see the pdf at the end of this report). Wesley Jon Pollard has given her a recommendation beginning with the words “Maria was recently appointed Director with us due to certain qualities she can bring on board that benefit our clients from all around the world ….”. This shows that she has been a director and a decision maker in the organization of Wesley Jon Pollard.

Maria was recently appointed Director with us due to certain qualities she can bring on board that benefit our clients from all around the world. She came highly recommended by a present client who had previously worked very closely with her.

She is very detailed orientated, committed and hard working when it comes to getting clients what they need and always places their first, addressing areas that other brokers cannot offer.

Very unique in many ways, we are very delighted to have Maria on board as a director and look forward to seeing her career being even more successful with us.

Another member found out that the name Wesley Pollard is used at the site http://dexterity-leads.com. It can be that Wesley Pollard is coming active again. The domain dexterity-leads.com got registered in Pakistan:

Domain Name: DEXTERITY-LEADS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1901864881_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
Updated Date: 2015-04-12T02:28:45Z
Creation Date: 2015-02-10T13:02:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-02-10T13:02:26Z
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Registrant Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Registrant Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Registrant City: Lahore
Registrant State/Province: Punjab
Registrant Postal Code: 54000
Registrant Country: PK
Registrant Phone: +92.3334268769
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: ypages.pk@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Admin Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Admin Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Admin City: Lahore
Admin State/Province: Punjab
Admin Postal Code: 54000
Admin Country: PK
Admin Phone: +92.3334268769
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: ypages.pk@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Mazhar Shahzad
Tech Organization: ALM Advertising Agency
Tech Street: M2-5 Eden Tower, Main Boulevard, Gulberg-III, Lahore, Pakistan
Tech City: Lahore
Tech State/Province: Punjab
Tech Postal Code: 54000
Tech Country: PK
Tech Phone: +92.3334268769
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: ypages.pk@gmail.com
Name Server: ns1701.websitewelcome.com
Name Server: ns1702.websitewelcome.com
DNSSEC:Unsigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact@publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>>Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-25T01:20:27+0000Z<<<

Scamadviser reports about the domain dexterity-leads.com:

Warning: A New Site Involving A High Risk Country
Alert Result: Registered contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: Technical contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: Administrative contact email address is a free one
Alert Result: This website is 195 Days old
Alert Result: The website expected life (365 days) is relatively short.
Alert Result: This website setup involves countries known to be high risk
Alert Result: This website is likely to be operating from a high risk country

We cannot be sure that Wesley Jon Pollard is active at the site registered in Pakistan, but on the site we find the names Kristy Beede, Wesley Pollard and Scott Bigelow (the name of a wrestler died January 19, 2007). You can observe that not one of these profiles has a picture. Scammers don't like to provide a manhunt picture by themselves.

As we see is the site registered in Pakistan and the provided addresses on the site are:

OBS, Portman Square, Marylebone, W1H. UK
OBS House, Margarita Heights, Batangas, PH. 4200 Tel: +63091506110390
OBS House, Taconic Road, Greenwich CT 06831 USA. Tel: (860) 377-1909

The UK address does not have any house and phone number. This address is incomplete and seems to got invented.

The US address is incomplete too. If you are using Google maps and take a look at the satellite pictures than you see that this is a forest area where you don't find any named houses.

Wesley Jon Pollard is active with his U.S. phone number on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/jon.pollard.980), LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dex-terity/100/53a/179) and Twitter (https://twitter.com/DexterityLeads). He is offering his scams via https://dexterityleads.wordpress.com/.

The Philippian address from Bantangas is invented too and the phone number is wrong written. Correct written is the phone number +639156110390. This phone number got used from Wesley Jon Pollard in his LinkedIn Pulse postings:

• https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-watch-out-when-taking-call-center-brokercampaign-pollard
• https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/call-center-campaign-big-game-change-uk-telecom-wesley-jon-pollard
• https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-use-services-responsible-call-center-broker-wesley-jon-pollard
• https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/call-center-broker-goes-beyond-service-support-wesley-jon-pollard
• http://outoftheboxsolutions.weebly.com/blog/call-center-campaign-a-big-game-change-for-uk-telecom-and-broadband (2016-02-25: Link removed Website already not available)
• http://targetdata.weebly.com/contact.html

And we can find the same phone numer at the website from rollingdice.in:

ROLLINGDICE PUNE
Unit No. 4, Building No. D, Below Panchratna Apartments, Bhairobi Nala, Wanowrie, Fatima Nagar, Pune - 411040
+91-77-67984-645

ROLLINGDICE KOLKATA
D/25 B P Township, opposite to GouldSmith School Kolkata - 700094
+91-33-65555-144

ROLLINGDICE PHILIPPINES
OBS House Margarita heights batangas PH 4200
+63-915-611-0390
info.hr@rollingdice.in

Domain registration data of rollingdice.in:

Domain Name: ROLLINGDICE.IN
Registry Domain ID: D9085202-AFIN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-01-07T06:06:42Z
Creation Date: 2015-01-07T13:06:42Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-07T13:06:42Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: CR184611386
Registrant Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: Garia
Registrant City: Kolkata
Registrant State/Province: West Bengal
Registrant Postal Code: 700032
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.7767984645
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: sudarshan.mitra87@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID: CR184611388
Admin Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: Garia
Admin City: Kolkata
Admin State/Province: West Bengal
Admin Postal Code: 700032
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.7767984645
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: sudarshan.mitra87@gmail.com
Registry Tech ID: CR184611387
Tech Name: Sudarshan Mitra
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: Garia
Tech City: Kolkata
Tech State/Province: West Bengal
Tech Postal Code: 700032
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.7767984645
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: sudarshan.mitra87@gmail.com
Name Server: NS09.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS10.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-25T2:00:00Z <<<

We had a similar scam from Wilpower Infotech - the name of the scammer has been Christine Wisner:

• Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner
• Christine Wisner - she tries to explain me that I'm wrong
• Christine Wisner tries to save what can still be saved

For the case someone has more information or better information about this case please feel free to contact me and I'll include your proves into the posting.

LinkedIn Profile from Wesley Jon Pollard (.pdf) (995.34 kb)

LinkedIn Profile from Barry Bermudez (.pdf) (646.29 kb)

LinkedIn Profile from Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano (.pdf) (686.21 kb)

Facebook Jon Pollard actual profile (.pdf) (4.44 mb)

Updates August 26, 2015

Bruce Young informed me about Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano:

Maria was scammed too Rudolf, she was made and led to believe by Wes too, victims as well. For Barry, Wes, was with his legit company.

Sim Antonio informed me about Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano:

Its just that this Maria is clean, she was a victim as well.

As for Maria, I think she is not aware, what she told me as we did communicate is that she removed all her connections with Wes

I can vouch for you she is clean, she is a victim as well. She is pursuing Wes as well.

Maria was able to removed Wesley's recommendation . Please Sir, she is absolutely a victim here of Wesley as well.

Christopher Caudle sent me the following email:

Hi ref the post some information for you.

Ref Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano I have been assisting in the hunt for Wesley for a long time but ref Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano she has never been nor is a director for any of his companies, I do know that Wesley put all these recommendations on without her knowledge, and she has been trying to get hold of Wesley ever since to have it removed. She does not have a contract with Wesley and she is a freelancer and is NOT employed by the company as a director. Wesley used her to send out all his documents, contracts etc to centres. So i hope you can correct the post made about her as its not true.

I would say that your criticism of centre owners are unjust in this case, as they did due diligence and everyone they spoke to seemed to point to Wesley's out of the box company as being ok.

As a former friend of Wesley (I am no more since this) I can say that as an ex police officer in the uk, that he has committed fraud and theft against centres. Currently the police are fully aware and are acting to make an arrest soon.

So you know how this started I paste below a copy of the email I sent to the Philippine police regarding Wesley, which has finally led to where we are today after a long and exhaustive investigation by me, obtaining contacts he knows, obtaining all phone numbers of him, and his home address.

I think you are doing a fantastic job keep up the good work, I will give you updates as and when i hear from the police via Maria who has been helping me track Wesley as she is as shocked as everyone is more so.

Crime Report Details;

Blotter 1078pg.0038 of 30th July 2015

National Police No +63746611489

Police Officer dealing: PO2 ELVIRA DULNUAN

From: lord.caudle@surecalltelecoms.co.uk [mailto:lord.caudle@surecalltelecoms.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:03 PM
To: 'bcpo.toc@yahoo.com' <bcpo.toc@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'bcpo.operations@yahoo.com' <bcpo.operations@yahoo.com>
Subject: Wesley Jon Pollard

Attached photo of Wesley Jon Pollard with his wife and son.

Dear Sir,

I wish to report Wesley Jon Pollard owner of Out of the Box solutions, as missing presumed kidnaped, since 7th July 2015.

The circumstances around his disappearance are as follows.

I have known Wesley Jon Pollard for many years. He lives in the Philippines and owns the company mentioned, which has a large number of important clients on his books. He arranges call centres for his clients, and makes a point of visiting each one to vet the company and ensure their procedures match their application. His mother is Jacqui Pereira, his sister is Corinna Pollard and he has a daughter Mercedes Pollard.

His itinerary was as follows:-

UK left on 3rd July for Philippines

Arrived Philippines on 5th July

Philippines left on 8th July at 15:05 to Malaysia arriving 18:40

Malaysia left on 8th July at 22:10 to Bangalore India arriving 23:40
Staying at Oberi Hotel

Call made by centre owner Naveen Kumar to Wesley on +639156110390 who answered, Mr Naveen Kumar asked if they should meet, Wesley said no he was tired and he was going to sleep, claiming he was in the Oberi hotel.

Bangalore left on 10th July at 07:50 to Delhi arriving 10:35

Delhi left on 10th July at 11:10 to Dehradul arriving 12 noon.
Staying at JW Marriot hotel

13th July visits to a number of centres in Dehradul
14th July staying in same hotel JW Marriot.

Dehradul left on 15th July at 19:40 to Delhi arriving at 20.30

Staying at Leela Palace Hotel

15th July until 21st July staying in Delhi

22nd July left 10:00 to Mumbai arriving at 12:15
Staying at JW Marriot hotel

Was supposed to meet Naveen Kumar as he was to meet at the centre at 9am, Mr Naveen called him and asked shall he pick him up, to which Wesley said no I have my own arrangement.
Wesley did not show up

Wesley was supposed to be in Mumbai until 27th.

I have checked with all hotels and he neither stayed at the hotels nor made any reservations. His laptop is on and he is showing as away on skype, this is unusual when he goes away he always shows offline. Also he is not answering his mobile, which is again unusual, as he is always contactable. He has not been on his Facebook page since 7th July and we cannot make any contact with him whatsoever.

It is my opinion having served for 10 years with the British Police (now retired) that Wesley Jon Pollard was not in India and never arrived there, I do not believe he was in Malaysia either, and that he is somewhere in the Philippines possibly kidnapped.

He did on a call when drunk one day say to his representative, that he had a million in the bank, this could easily have been overheard, but this is conjecture.

As he still is missing and his clients and centres are very worried about their contracts, I have taken over to try to help Maria Reburiano save his business from problems and I am talking with clients and centres to assure them that Wesley will contact them soon.

I therefore formally request that this case is looked into as a missing person possibly kidnapped, and that appropriate resources are engaged to find Wesley and ensure his safety and safe return.

Regards
Lord Christopher Caudle
Direct DDI (+44) 1865731223
Email; lord.caudle@surecalltelecoms.co.uk

Lord Caudle
Chairman

Update September 8, 2015:

Christopher Caudle likes to get some more publicity in this case and tried to impress me with the following statements on Skype:

From a legal standpoint as it can still be clearly read it would come under slander and libel, as it was not true, the hosting company would also be liable as well. I'm only just saying as I was in the police for 10 years so I know. I would not want to see maria take it down a legal route, which might happen anyway if she ended up harming herself because of all this. Do let me know what you think Rudolf.

That is exactly what everbody likes to read if he is opening Skype. The problem is only that Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano did not only accept the recommendation, where she got called to be a director from Wesley John Pollard, she called herself in her LinkedIn profile "Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano. Title: Director for Sales / BPO (Philippines) at Out of the Box Solutions". As much as I like to help her for the reason that she has tried to help the scammed ones to find Wesley John Pollard, but she has chosen exactly the wrong way for getting help.

The Internet is viral and it is not so easy to get something out of the Internet as many services are archiving the contents. Even Google still lists sites from her publishing, which got already deleted from the source. In her own case you'll find still the entries in Google:

Interesting is in any case that we not only find at Eynsham online an entry where he describes himself as “I served the village as a Section Officer (Sgt) for Thames Valley Police Special Constabulary for 10 years, and started the first Eynsham foot patrols.”, we find an entry at Campaignprovider.com a page with the title “lord chris caudle's Page” (.pdf (197.20 kb)). The page has the first entry from February 2, 2012 (.pdf (180.64 kb)) and the last entry from September 10, 2014. At Christopher Caudle's LinkedIn profile (.pdf (459.36 kb)) does not get anything found about his work as Section Officer. At his LinkedIn profile are only jobs as CEO and chairman listed. It seems that Christopher Caudle is really a multi talent.

Christopher Caudle seems to have a problem with his elf-esteem and likes to title himself to be a Lord. The definition of the British title Lord can get found in the Encyclopaedia Britannica. However the name of Christopher Caudle does not get found in the Members of the UK House of Lords directory.

I don’t know the real background why Christopher Caudle stands up in this way for Maria. Anyone can make his thoughts by himself about the reasons. My opinion is that he thinks to know everything and does not accept any technical arguments from others. He knows the meaning of "it seems to be" otherwise he would not call in his Facebook postings for self-justice, he would use the official and legal way to file his complaints.

I’m sorry for Maria’s publicity in this case and everybody shall accept that she tries to help in the case against Wesley John Pollard. Please don't judge her for her past in this case. Maybe she got cheated too. Everybody is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty and even in the case she get's found guilty for something in this case, is active repentance an extenuation.

Other articles in the connection with the case about Wesley Jon Pollard:

• Is Christopher Caudle more than just a friend of the alleged scammer Wesley Jon Pollard?
• The red herring and/or deception around Wesley Jon Pollard – out-of-the-box-solutions
• Christopher Caudle likes to get more publicity for Ma Eliza Reyes Reburiano

lord-chris-caudle's-Page-CampaignProvider.pdf (197.20 kb)

Lord-Chris-Caudle-(NEW)-UK-PPI-Personal-Injury-Sales-Process.pdf (180.64 kb)

Lord-Caudle-LinkedIn.pdf (459.36 kb)

Update Jan. 18, 2017: The Link to http://eynsham-pc.gov.uk/processtype_tmm.asp?MenuHeadID=122&amp;ProcessType=41&amp;MenuSubID=57 got removed as it already returned error 404 - not found. If you like to know more about Chris Caudle, then visit the page http://eynsham-pc.gov.uk and enter Caudle into the search form. There are some results. :)