During a few weeks I commented each posting from Kavitha Kavi with a scammer warning. It seems to me that some people did not believe it and have been thinking that it is for a revenge or some other reason. Sorry, but I even don't know Kavitha Kavi and I have never made any business with Lexicon Technologies.
Their advertisements have been already suspect:
- Not one broker, which has real campaigns, need to advertise them every few hours.
- Good campaigns are getting taken very fast from the centers.
- Only scammer cannot show their face in public. They need to be afraid that they can get identified, listed and cannot be lazy any more. In such a case they need to do a real work if they like to survive. For real work they are too lazy.
Real people and business owners are able to show their own face, because they don't cheat someone.
- Only scammer are praising (liking) themselves. All others know that self praising is not a reputation.
- Only scammer are using phrases like "Last Chance", "Limited Slots", "Limited Seats" and "HURRY". As they are lazy they are using the same advertising during a few months.
Real and good business partners give you enough time for making a good deal.
- Real business partners are interested in having a long term business relationship and promote their products.
Scammer are only behind the money. You can identify them already by reading their advertisements - there is every time the money what you can earn the main topic, because they even don't know the product and are to lazy informing themselves.
Remember: As more somebody is promoting (spamming) as higher is the risk to get scammed.
Rudolf Faix hat Folgendeskommentiert:
Lexicon Technologies, Chennai is a SCAM
Some people are not reading the warnings from others. Their own greediness is driving them into making business in the hope to earn. I certainly do not feel sorry for the deceived - they were even warned by my comments. Everybody needs to make his own experiences.
An Austrian proverb says: It is cheaper to learn from the mistakes of others than from our own. But the will of man is his heaven
kavitha kavi _ LinkedIn.pdf (5.42 mb)
A business is only good if the risk is low and the earnings are high. In the following offer is it a good business only for the SCAMMER. The center owner has even the risk to end up in jail while the scammer is hiding himself.
A friend forwarded me the following offer and asked me about my opinion:
Hello!
We outsource US Inbound Technical Support Campaign! from more than 3 years and complete genuine in terms of accounts & calls. We operate from Mumbai, India. We do not charge any Royalty, consulting fees & security deposit.
We keep transparency in our Business.
The following are the details of the process:-
Agents required: 10 or more
Technician: 1 or more
US Toll Free Number
Payment Gateway
Dialer
Lease line with minimum speed of 2 MBPS
Website (Optional)
Computer's with good configuration.(Windows 7 preferred)
Pricing for Windows, Pop u calls: (Prepaid System)
1. Price for 10-50 calls - Rs. 850/- per call
2. Price for 51-100 calls - Rs. 800/- per call
3. Price for 101-200 calls - Rs. 750/- per call
4. Price for 201-350 calls - Rs. 700/- per call
Note: 30 paid test calls per day will be provided only for 3 days at start, 30 calls for 3 days.
The following are the details of the US Inbound Tech Support Campaign:-
1. Campaign will be running for minimum 10 calls only.
2. The payment for the campaign will be in advance. Minimum 48 working hours ago (Wire Transfer). No Credit is given on any grounds.
3. Calls will be received from US / Canada customers only.
4. Timings for the campaign to start are 10:00 pm to 5:00 am IST (Monday - Friday).
5. Call recording to be provided, if required.
6. Center should have a US / Canada Toll Free Number only.
7. Minimum 10 - 12 calls will be routed per slot.
8. Daily MIS report for the calls is to be shared at EOD compulsorily for verification. If not shared, the report provided from contractor will be final and undebatable..
9. If any issue or problem occurs, campaign will be paused and will be active once it is approved by the Contractor itself.
10. Any called missed or abandoned due to lack of technology or late communication will be counted as paid call to the client.
11. Calls Category – Webmail calls, Pop up calls, Antivirus calls, Tablet calls, PC running slow, MAC calls, Printer calls, Antivirus not downloading or running etc..
12. We are no where concerned whether the center makes sale's out of the Inbound calls or not.
As we provide the best calls and there is also some effort shown from the center to up-sell the customers.
13. No replacement for calls will be given on any grounds.
PS: No free or test calls provided. Only Serious Call Centers / BPO contact me and please don't waste mine as well as your time.
Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Priyesh Rao
Cell - +91 9820557973
Skype - priyesharao
Website - www.euroanswerllc.com
Reference Center in Begumpet, Hyderabad
How is the scam working? Let us take a closer look:
- The center has to provide a payment gateway. That means the center is billing to the customer directly. Each credit card payment can get rejected after the credit card holder receives his monthly statement. So the center has the risk for the transaction.
- The center has to provide Toll Free numbers for US and/or Canada. That means the call center is paying for the incoming calls and the phone number is registered to the centers. A hidden registration is not possible for phone numbers. In the case of a fraud the owner of the phone number is responsible.
- How the Toll Free number, which is previous not known, arrives in the Pop Up that the customer can call it?
The legal way is to show a number on a website or in advertisements. In all other cases it will come from only from a malware. Remember, the number is not known previous.
It need to be only a toll free number because the customer shall call it instead of consulting a friend or a computer repair center located near to his place.
For all other purposes like a call by using a software on a computer, tablet or smartphone you even don't need a phone number. Such calls can get routed directly over the Internet.
- The center has to pay for the Pop Up calls, This is the way how the scammer is making his money.
- The owner of the domain euroanswerllc.com are hiding themselves behind a proxy service at the domain registry
If we put now the facts together, then we see that the center is not working for a client. In this case the center acts as a reseller because the center need to buy the calls and makes the billing with the caller directly. The center is responsible in front of law for the product. The center cannot hide themselves in anonymity like the SCAMMER do, because the center is taking the money and the phone number is registered to the center. If one customer goes in front of the law court than the center owner will end up in jail. He has make the fraud and not the real scammer
In any case the center owner has a high risk to end up in front of the court, because Ignorance is no protection against prosecution.
Domain Name: EUROANSWERLLC.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1866035335_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
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Creation Date: 2014-07-08T17:35:08Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-07-08T17:35:08Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Reseller: Google Inc.
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Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
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Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
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Name Server: NS45.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS46.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
Thomas Tryon is using the identity (name and picture) of the author Thomas Tryon, which died already Sep 4, 1991.
The risk to get scammed from such people is 99%. He even did not like to understand the warnings written in my comments under his postings. A "Director of Database Management" is reacting in another way than he. It seems that he is not mature enough to make serious business. So it looks like the full content of his profile is only a fake or a big lie.
Source: Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tryon
Picture from Thomas Tryon: http://www.openroadmedia.com/thomas-tryon
LinkedIn profile of Thomas Tryon - safehavenleads.com: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=311097574&goback=%2Egde_1530777_member_5981562875347562497
LinkedIn offer from Thomas Tryon - safeheavenleads.com in the group Call Centre search: https://www.linkedin.com/groupAnswers?viewQuestionAndAnswers=&discussionID=5981562875347562497&gid=1530777&goback=#commentID_null
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Today (2015-03-09) I got a LinkedIn message, which shall make me rich. I think that other members from LinkedIn have gotten a similar message with the following content:
First thanks for accepting my Invitation on LinkedIn, I hope My message meets you in good health. It's my pleasure to introduce myself via this means. I am Ms Rose LEE Wai Mun, Vice-Chairman and Chief Executive With Hang Seng Bank Corporation Limited, I am responsible for all areas relating to accounting functions and financial reporting.
I have business proposal to share with you, Write to me on my private email, msroselewaimun@gmail.com to discuss in Details.
I apologize if you find this arbitrary and irrelevant.
Regards,
Ms Rose LEE Wai Mun
As I expect a scam about a long laying fund there I have answered the message to the given email address and expect now a story about a missing customer with millions of $ on a bank account, which has the same last name like me. For showing this to you, I have sent a short answer to the given email address:
Rudolf Faix <rudolffaix@gmail.com>
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Hi Rose
Please send me the details about your business proposal.
best regards
Rudolf Faix
2015-03-10:
Like I have expected it yesterday, I have received such an email. Don't take the bait. The next follow up will be the advance fee scam.
Dear Faix
Thanks so much for replying to my email address, I know this will come as a surprise to you but let me formally introduce myself to you.I am Ms Rose LEE Wai Mun Vice-Chairman and Chief Executive at the Hang Seng Bank Plc. I am contacting you concerning an abandoned sum of $22,500,000.00 USD. In June 2004, A customer called Fernando Faix foreign contractor with Royal Dutch Plc came to our bank for business discussions and investment, As the officer in charge of his transaction then, I encouraged him to consider various growth of funds with prime ratings. Then he invested Nineteen Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Dollars only. Based on my advice, we were able to spin the initial deposit with profit and interest to 22.5 million U.S Dollars. After few months; My bank (Hang Seng) sent several notice to him without response and unfortunately, my client died in a car crash along with his nuclear family at France while on sabbatical in the summer of 2008, may their soul rest in peace. He died without leaving a Will and several efforts were made to find his extended family through your embassy without success. Because of the sensitive nature of private banking, most customers don't nominate next of kin in their investment, also usually in most cases leave their WILLS in our care, in this case; our now deceased client died in-testate.
It is quite clear now that our dear client died with no known or identifiable family member. According to practice, the Private banking sector will by the end of this year broadcast a request for statement of claim to Hang Seng Bank Ltd, failing to receive viable claims they will probably revert the deposit to the Management of Hang Seng Bank Ltd. This will result the money entering the Hang Seng accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my hands and out of the private banking division. What bothers me most is that according to the laws of my country at the expiration of Ten {10} years the funds will revert to the ownership of the Hong Kong Government if nobody applies to claim the funds.
Now, I am prepared to give the necessary details to you as the closest surviving relation of our deceased customer (Fernando Faix). I am also proposing that after a successful execution of the business deal, the funds will be shared in the ratio 40/60. You will get 40% and I will be entitled to 60% as the initiator of the deal. You know that I must have done my home work already before contacting you. Although the project is capital intensive, I know I will be able to pull it through following proper banking and legal Channels with your assistance at your end. I will tidy up the legal aspect with the assistance of a lawyer who will prepare all the documents that will be needed to transfer the money from Hong Kong to your country. Once more, I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail and forget I ever contacted you, I ask that you do not be vindictive and destructive; do not destroy my career. Opportunities like this only comes once in a lifetime. I am a family woman and this is an opportunity for me to give my family the best in life. I would want you to think about this and let me know your decision. If you give me a positive response, I will give you the relevant INFORMATION for the successful transfer of these funds and we both enjoy it in peace.
If you give me positive signals on my email:
msroselewaimun@gmail.com, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you not contact me via official Channels else I will deny knowing you and about this project. You can also check on my biography from this link as well
http://bank.hangseng.com/1/2/about-us/directors-organisation/board-of-directors#irenelee you can also call our official line
+852-2822-0228 but do not talk about this transaction or I may deny knowing you, when you call? Ask of Ms Rose LEE Wai Mun (Hang Seng Bank) and if I am on seat, then your call shall be transfer to me, what I will want you to do is to abolish the call before I talk because my official line are not secured means to reach me bearing in mind, the nature of this transaction, because they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management.
I await your response.
Regards
I stop at this time the communication with this scammer. The follow up will be only an advanced fee scam.
For the case that such a email would not be only scam, you would make yourself punishable and will end up in jail for helping in betraying the government, which gets in such case the heritage.
The following list give you an overview how you can identify a scammer and bad selling products without making a background check - only by reading their offers with an open mind:
- Earnings in the spotlight
Every advertising, which puts the amount of earnings into the spotlight, is nothing else than scam. As higher the promoted earnings are, as less reachable they will be for the case it is not a scam.
- Pay per sale
Even the client knows that his product is hard to sell. If the client has an easy selling product, than he would offer only an hourly rate for the sales people.Each business is done for making profit. Nobody likes to pay more than absolutely necessary.
- High commission per sale
As higher the promised commission per sale is as more difficult is it to sell the product. Nobody likes to pay more than it is absolutely necessary to find someone to doing the work.
- Offer without a picture of a real person or of a celebrity
The salesperson already cannot show his face in public. Maybe he/she has scammed already some people and need to hide himself for this purpose. It is also possible that such a person gets searched already by the police or Interpol. They are browsing the social networks too.
- Offers without an email address
Such an offer is only a time waster. Such people even don’t know that the world has 24 time zones and are expecting that everybody is waiting for them.
- Calling data (phone numbers with names) are not provided by the client
Address agencies are already to expensive for the client. He expect that you are making with already heavy used data a big business. Hopefully the client will be able to pay the center for their work,
- “genuine” offers
Where is only written about a “genuine” campaign or product than it is only scam. The person, who is offering something like that, does not even know what he is offering.
- Email me for more details
That is only a time waster. Such people are only collecting email addresses. Maybe they can sell It somewhere. A normal salesperson will describe his product very well, because he has less work with false requests in this case. Why he should make more work for himself than necessary.
- Call me for more details
That is even a larger time waster. Such a person is already afraid from the written words, which can get used against him. For this he likes to speak only. Such offers are in each case only a scam.
- Act fast phrases like "Last Chance", "Limited Slots", "Limited Seats", "HURRY UP", etc.
The best translation would be: Don’t prove the offer or make a background check. In such a case you’ll find the scam immediately.
- Any upfront fees – however they are getting called
That is the plumpest scam ever. If a client likes that you are using special software, than he has to pay for it. Maybe the client is already nearly bankrupt and cannot pay already the products, which you should use. In such a case he would even not be able to pay you for your work in the case it is not only a scam.
- Royalty fees
It proves only that the “broker” has no contract with the client. For this is it already scam.
- Security deposit
A security deposit is given normally to this one, which is working and has some investments to do. This is in the case the call center, because they are investing in staff and phone minutes. The broker gets paid from the client for whom he is working.
- Exuberant praising a product or campaign
You will not be able to sell such a product to normal people. Such products are normally overpriced and trash. The purpose of such a behavior is to find stupid people, which will buy it. With the exuberant praising of a product or campaign the salesperson likes to hide the known problems of the product.
- MLM – Multi Level Marketing
In such a system are getting low quality products for a very high price sold. The product price needs to pay your upline and need to be a winning for the company. You need to be happy if you are at least earning the costs you have with it.
- Repeated posting of the same campaign
Real campaigns need to get posted only once, they get very fast taken. If a campaign gest posted longer as a few days then is in any case something wrong with the campaign.
- The offer sounds too good to be true
In this case the offer is only a scam
As more from the above points are fitting to an offer as higher is the risk for running into a trap.
If the offer is interesting than you should continue with making a background check to avoid getting scammed.
A list of proved scammer can get found in the menu entry Scammer Exposed.
Offers from trusted and validated brokers can get found in the menu entry Fair Campaign Offers.