Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

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Scammer: Vrogem Global Solutions - Gourav Jain

The scammer Gourav Jain from Vrogem Global Solutions tries to sell dream work to call centers. He did not get it until now that at the traditional outsourcing countries is it forbidden by law to give access to consumer and customer data for outsiders  Only stupid ones will take such campaigns where they need to pay for working in the case if the campaign even exists..

The email offer of the scammer Gourav Jain:

Vrogem Global Solutions

Greetings..!!!

Dear Center

We are offering Genuine Inbound and Outbound Process with advance payouts. Direct signup with client , on line and onsite signup option available.Currently available Projects are:

1. Vodafone Inbound ( Value Added Services)
2. Verizon Inbound
3. XML Tagging ( Non Voice)
4. Chat Support
5. More Process are available

For more details please contact Gourav : 8013815198 or mail us at vrogemglobal@gmail.com

Only Inbound Calls, No sales or transfer....


Regards:
Gourav Jain
8013815198
Vrogem Global Solutions


CALL CENTER SETUP | INBOUND PROJECTS | INTERNATIONAL COMPANY SETUP | PAYMENT GATEWAY SOLUTIONS | VOIP SOLUTION | LEADS | 

Copyright © 2015 vrogem global, All rights reserved.
You are receiving this email because we got your contact from database as a reputed and fast growing call center or it company.

Our mailing address is:
vrogem global
20/ Janata Sarani
Calcutta 700001
India

The scammer Gourav Jain from Vrogem Global Solutions confirms In the following email that he has no contract with the client by asking for upfront fees:

From: gourav jain <vrogemglobal@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Call Center Projects
To: Hamza Khan <hamzaalikhan7@gmail.com>


Dear Mr. Hamza Ali Khan,
 
Sorry for late reply, Yes we do have upfront as we are providing genuine inbound projects, but all projects will sign up after reference check of existing centre and payment proof.
 
 
 
Regards,
Gourav Jain 

Everybody, which pays for getting work, is guilty by himself if he gets scammed. The stupid scammer Gourav Jain from Vrogem Global Solutions is hoping that he finds some call center owners, which are more stupid then himself.

 

Scammer: Mohan Raj - Bangalore - phone: 8971727049 - skype: ivr.mohanraj

Mohan RajSuch a system, which Mohan Raj is offering, will not work with in any case. He is sending out a campaign called "VoIP Termination Process", where you shall call Premium Phone Numbers from different countries. It is easy for him to offer such a process without any upfront or consultancy fee, because he scams you with the VoIP fees. For the case that such a Premium Phone Number is reachable from your VoIP provider, then the fee for such a Premium Phone Number is not equal to the landline fee. The fee to call such a Premium Phone Number is much higher, because the service provider get paid for receiving the call.

I give you an example from Austria. There we have Premium Phone Numbers, where the caller pays € 3.64/minute (€ 3.03 excl. tax). The service provider gets paid € 2.70/minute excluding tax. The calling time is limited to 30 minutes per call. Even we, if we make a test calls to such of our own numbers are losing € 0.33 per minute.

Summary: A Premium Phone Number is normally not reachable from abroad. Very seldom you'll find a VoIP provider, where you can call such a Premium Phone Number and if you find one, then the rate for such a call will be in any case higher than the payout rate. Even if the VoIP provider has not listed such destinations explicit you'll see that your prepaid balance will be earlier zero or your monthly bill will be much higher than expected.

Why do you think he needs you for this project?
If the system would work, than you need nothing else than GoAutodial, which does the job without any agent!!! You are needed only for paying the very high bill!!!

The SCAM offer from Mohan Raj:

VoIP Termination Process

 

Call Premium Number and Earn Every Minute from 2 Rs to 20 Rs

1)   ProcessType: Non-Voice (You Need not to speak to anyone, you just call the premiumnumber and wait till call gets disconnected)

2)   No Accuracy No target

3)   24/7 Working Time

4)   No separate man power required

5)   No Upfront or Consultancy or Signup Charges

Process Details:

Premium Numbers:

Premium-rate telephone numbers are telephone numbers for telephone calls during which certain services are provided, and for which prices higher than normal are charged. Unlike a normal call, part of the call charge is paid to the service provider (client), thus enabling businesses to befunded via the calls. While the billing is different, calls are usually routed the same way they are for a toll-free telephone number, being anywhere despite the area code used. These telephone numbers are usually allocated from a national telephone numbering plan in such a way that they are easily distinguished from other numbers.

 

Premium routes and minutes:

These kinds of routes are basically used for dialing the premium rate numbers. Without the premium routes you will not be able dial at premium numbers. VoIP do have white and grey or CLI or non CLI and premium as well, we will only work at premium routes for calling the premium rate numbers no other services are used here.

What’s Your Work?

1)    You just need to terminate your cheap VoIP on our Client Premium Number.

2)    No Need to speak to anyone

3)    Our Premium Numbers will get connected automatically and disconnected automatically. Every call will stay up to 1 hour in line.

 

 

Procedure to Start:

1)    If your premium VoIP is ready, ask us for destination and payout rates.

2)    Then, we will give login id and password for a CDR portal where you can track every second of your traffic.

3)    We will give u dialers to dial and help u to place many calls at a time in single system

4)    Our Technical support team will help you in training and support available 24/7

5)    Start earning for every call and get paid daily.

Payout

Payout depends on Premium Number and Destination you are calling.

For Example, Our top paying destination

Country Name                                 Payout

Cameroon                                        8.30rs/minute

Chad                                                 5.25rs/minute

Comoros                                           9rs/minute

Somalia                                            8Rs/Minute              

France                                              6rs/minute

Latvia                                                8Rs/Minute                         

Bosnia                                              4rs-6rs/minute

UK                                                     5Rs/Minute                         

Poland                                              3Rs/Minute

Congo                                                          8-10Rs/minute and so on………

Your Earning depends on

 1) Your Premium VoIP Cost

 2) Destination Chosen

 3) Minutes Burnt.

Normally, Using Single system you can burn more than 5000minutes. So you can earn 5000 to 10000 Rs every day.

Minimum Requirementsto Start Process:

1)   Minimum 1 System

2)   Internet Connection

3)   Premium VoIP Minutes to call IPRN

Payment:

Payment: Daily

Mode: PayPal, Western Union, Bank Wire (you can choose anyone)

CRM, Dialer, Report will be provided.

Training: Yes

NOTE: You should have your minutes ready. We are not charging anything for Premium Numbers, CRM, Dialer and Login ID Creation.

For further discussion Contacton Skype: ivr.mohanraj

VoIP Termination Process.pdf (133.29 kb)

 

Scammer: Gaby Anderson - stanfordonlinecourses.com

Each Scammer makes mistakes. Even if they invest a little bit into their scam they are making mistakes. So Gaby Anderson with stanfordonlinecourses.com is making mistakes.

Gaby AndersonHis first mistake is his profile picture. He uses the profile picture of a photo model, which gets found at Google on 436 search pages. The original picture gets found at questmarketing.org. He has used this profile picture on his profile at LinkedIn and Facebook [2016-02-25: Link removed as the Facebook profile under https://www.facebook.com/ganderson84?fref=nf already not exists]. He deleted already the picture from his LinkedIn profile.

The Stanford University has no reason to hide their domain registration by using a proxy service, They are proud about their name and they are even hosting their servers and services by themselves. Their online courses are hosted at http://online.stanford.edu/ This gets shown if we take a look at the domain registry data for stanford.edu:

Domain Name: STANFORD.EDU
Registrant:
   Stanford University
   The Board of Trustees of the Leland Stanford Junior University
   241 Panama Street, Pine Hall, Room 115
   Stanford, CA 94305-4122
   UNITED STATES
Administrative Contact:
   Domain Admin
   Stanford University
   241 Panama Street Pine Hall, Room 115
   Stanford, CA 94305-4122
   UNITED STATES
   (650) 723-4328
   sunet-admin@stanford.edu
Technical Contact:
   Domain Admin
   Stanford University
   241 Panama Street Pine Hall, Room 115
   Stanford, CA 94305-4122
   UNITED STATES
   (650) 723-4328
   sunet-admin@stanford.edu
Name Servers: 
   ARGUS.STANFORD.EDU         171.64.7.115, 2607:f6d0:0:9113::ab40:773
   AVALLONE.STANFORD.EDU      171.64.7.88, 2607:f6d0:0:9116::ab40:758
   ATALANTE.STANFORD.EDU      171.64.7.61, 2607:f6d0:0:d32::ab40:73d
Domain record activated:    04-Oct-1985
Domain record last updated: 23-Mar-2015
Domain expires:             31-Jul-2016

Their name is their trademark. Such an university will not hire telemarketers for promotion their online education.

If we take a look at Gaby Andersons domain stanfordonlinecourses.com, then we see that the register data are hidden behind a proxy service and the nameserver are not the same like from stanford.edu, Additional has been the domain created on January 6, 2015. The domain is now 4 months old:

Domain Name: STANFORDONLINECOURSES.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1894354618_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2015-01-06T15:28:52Z
Creation Date: 2015-01-06T15:28:52Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-06T15:28:52Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC

Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-05-06T22:00:00Z

As we know that scammer are lazy gets the website http://www.stanfordonlinecourses.com [2016-02-25: Link removed as the domain standfordonlinecourses.com already not exists] forwarded to https://lagunita.stanford.edu.

Let's take a look at Gaby Andersons offer in Facebook:

Facebook offer from Gaby Anderson

-Inbound / Outbound EDU Campaign-
Hourly Rate: $20/hour/agent
Payment Cycle: Weekly
Program Description: Take a call from students who's interested enrolling in college
Leads: Included
Dialer: Included
Voip: Included
We prefer centers in Philippines!
For more info you can contact me at:
Email : ganderson@stanfordonlinecourses.com
Skype : stanford.ganderson

You can expect, that nobody from USA will outsource for $20/hour/agent. Nobody likes to pay more then absolute necessary. In the campaign detail description is even written: $20.00/hour with $3.00/hour increase after 3 months of service. For this money nobody will hire an offshore call center. He can have it for the same price in the USA too.

As written in the announcement the scammer is preferring call centers from the Philippines. I got forwarded a Skype communication from Gaby Anderson:

Hello Mr.Anderson
[5/21/2015 10:55:34 PM] Hamza Ali Khan: Do you still have that inbound campaign?
[4:01:02 AM] Gaby Anderson: Yes
[4:01:30 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: Can you send me the details to my email please?
[4:01:40 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: hamzaalikhan7@gmail.com
[4:01:47 AM] ***  ***
[4:08:27 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: Great!
[4:09:29 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: So are you hiring on individual basis or call centers only?
[4:09:51 AM] Gaby Anderson: CAllCenter
[4:09:58 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: Wonderful!
[4:10:14 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: Please visit our site for the company profile smile emoticon
[4:10:26 AM] Hamza Ali Khan:
[4:12:05 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: we have been working with a number of overseas clients for last 8 years.
[4:15:03 AM] Hamza Ali Khan: Let me know what will be the process moving forward.
[4:16:44 AM] Gaby Anderson: Let me Tell you Directly before i pass you to my campaign manager CALLCENTER IN INDIA BANGLADESH PAKISTAN we require them to have a safety deposit with us justy to be sure they would comply to the job

Exactly here is the scam. A safety deposit has to receive the center and not the broker. The center is doing the work. The broker or the client has no risk especially if the provide the phone system and VoIP minutes. In this case they are able to stop a center even without any notice. For this the safety deposit is nothing else than a big SCAM.

A IP-check of his Skype connection locates him today at 10:15am Philippines time with the IP address 49.145.213.188. The geolocation shows that he is operating with his fraud from Manila and is using the provider PLDT.

Screenshot Skype Geo IP location from Gaby Anderson

Whois information:

% [whois.apnic.net]
% Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html
% Information related to '49.145.128.0 - 49.145.255.255'
inetnum: 49.145.128.0 - 49.145.255.255
netname: Consumer_DSL
country: PH
descr: PLDT_BNKHME60I01_DHCP
descr: This space has been assigned as DYNAMIC
admin-c: NA185-AP
tech-c: RA328-AP
status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
changed:  removed email address 20130424
mnt-by: PHIX-NOC-AP
mnt-irt: IRT-PLDT-PH
source: APNIC
irt: IRT-PLDT-PH
address: Philippine Long Distance Telephone Company
address: 6/F Innolab Building
address: Boni Avenue, Mandaluyong City
+address: Philippines
e-mail:  removed email address
abuse-mailbox:  removed email address
admin-c: AR238-AP
tech-c: NA185-AP
auth: # Filtered
mnt-by: PHIX-NOC-AP
changed:  removed email address 20101117
changed:  removed email address 20101126
source: APNIC
person: Nilo Agir
nic-hdl: NA185-AP
e-mail:  removed email address
address: 6/F Innolab Building, Boni Avenue, Mandaluyong City
phone: +632-584-1045
country: PH
changed:  removed email address 20080526
changed:  removed email address 20110427
mnt-by: PHIX-NOC-AP
source: APNIC
person: Rolando M. Araw Jr
nic-hdl: RA328-AP
e-mail:  removed email address
address: 3/F MGO Bldg, dela Rosa St, Makati, MM, Phils
phone: +632-836-2569
country: PH
changed:  removed email address 20101117
mnt-by: PHIX-NOC-AP
source: APNIC
% This query was served by the APNIC Whois Service version 1.69.1-APNICv1r0 (UNDEFINED)

Conclusion: The scammer Gaby Anderson with his domain stanfordonlinecourses.com is misusing the good name of the Stanford University for his fraud action. He does everything to hide his identity. I hope the police will catch him soon and stop his fraud.

 

Facebook profile Gaby Anderson.pdf (628.57 kb)

LinkedIn profile Gaby Anderson.pdf (3.64 mb)

SOC-Call-Center-Requirements.pdf (316.97 kb)

 

Scam campaign from mpavistechnologies.com

mpavistechnologies.comI had one campaign listed from mpavistechnologies.com, which has not been scam. I have delisted this campaign as soon as I found Tech Support offers from mpavistechnolgies in Facebook. The tech support offers are all scam. The calls are getting generated by scareware, which is called computer fraud. From advertisements, even on Google, you'll not get enough calls, that it will be profitable to sell the calls. All the consumer protection organizations around the world are already warning about the "Tech Support calls".

I got forwarded a campaign from mpavistechnlogies.com. mpavistechnologies.com did not send me the campaign description directly, because they know that I'll classify such a campaign only as scam.

Q & A

You will be calling potential customers all over the U.S. Looking for customers, who are interested, cooperative, are the home owner and are not currently under contract with another security company.  You will live transfer those calls to our closing agents.

Do you charge set up fees?
We do not charge set up fees nor do we charge for the right to do the campaign. All we ask is that you pay for your VOIP.

We are investing in you - We supply the dialer, Leads and the VAKA (non-voice software). This all costs money that we provide to you for free - We also are investing our time, not only getting you set up, but also the initial and ongoing training.

 

  • If you decide to supply the dialer, then are the costs of the dialer your problem and not the problem of the call center. The call center can do nothing to influence this costs and for this are this costs not the problem of the center. Any existing dialer or the call center is not increasing his value because it is not get used. 

  • Data and leads are the problem of the client. If the data or the leads are not good, then the best call center will fail. 

  • You like to use VAKA, for this are the costs for the software your problem and not the problem of the center. If you think VAKA is the best solution for you, then you need to supply it and you'll never be able to bill it to the call center.

  • You are investing your time? If you decide to that a call center has to use your system, then you have to train them on your software. For this you get paid from the client!

So you have can even not say that you are investing already enough for the center if you are really investing NOTHING!!!

 

What are the VOIP charges?
The cost of the VOIP is .0079 per minute - You should budget $2 - $4 per agent per day

Can you use your own VOIP Provider?
No. We require that everyone use our VOIP provider, both the opening centers and the closing centers. The reason we do it is to avoid all the tech issues and to provide you with accurate reporting on all calls. Our calling plan allows for all the calls to be connected through tier one and two providers and offer more termination points and outgoing channels that any other provider. Because everyone is on the same system, using the same VOIP provider we do not experience latency issues, echoes, delays and disconnections. The calls are clean and flawless.

Do you profit from the centers using your VOIP Provider?
No. We do not profit from this. You get charged, what we get charged.

Can you deduct the VOIP from future payouts?
The VOIP must be prepaid in order to get started. It is not our VOIP Company (3rd party) - We do not pay it for you.
We will set up the VOIP account for you and provide you with the web portal and show you how to proceed

You will have complete control, as you will have access to the Web Portal (VOIP provider) there, you will be able to load your minutes and receive your VOIP reports

As you provide dialer, leads, client software, etc. you should not search for call centers, which are paying your VoIP minutes. The call centers have no possibility to influence the dialing behavior, the data quality and all surroundings. For this you have to provide the VoIP minutes too. In this case you can run your own center with your own agents. For what you'll need some call centers in this case? With this offer you show that you need them only for paying your phone bills and the salary of the agents!!!

YOU SHOW WITH THIS OFFER ALREADY THAT YOU NOT TRUST INTO THE CAMPAIGN!!!

PayPal
You must set up a PayPal account both to make payment to VOIP provider and to receive payment from us. It is really simple to do - Just go to their website and set up an account - It is the easiest method and the cheapest

What is the pay out?
We will pay you $6 per transfer, with a 60 second buffer

What is a 60 second buffer and why is it needed?
A 60 second buffer means, that when the call is transferred the closing agent has 60 seconds to determine if the transferred call was a qualified transfer, meaning the customer was interested, cooperative, was the home owner (not a renter) and was not under contract with another security company - if the call goes 60 seconds or greater, the transferred call will be considered billable and therefore you will be paid on it.

Here you show exactly what I have said before. You don't trust your data and your product. For this you offer a pay per sale. You are proofing that already in your next sentence "they must be a home owner". With this you show that you have data, but they are not selected to be from home owners. The call center shall sort the data out for you. With such data you can only offer a pay per hour per agent!!!

What are the qualifications for a transferred call?
There are 2 criteria for the calls to be transferred - 1) they must be a home owner and not a renter 2) they must not be under contract with another security company. They can have a preexisting security system; they just can’t be under contract, meaning the contract must have expired. We cannot accept either of the above - Therefore, it is in the agreement - If we see that you are transferring an unacceptable amount of renters or customers that are under contract, we will terminate the arrangement. - It means your agents are not doing their jobs, asking the correct questions and getting the correct answers

What can my center achieve?
That really all depends upon you and your agents - Your agents should be able to achieve 4 billable transfers per day each - Keep in mind, in an 8 hour day that is only 1 transfer every 2 hours. Your agents will be speaking to 500 people a day - That’s 1 out of every 125 people.

Your agents will be dialing 3000 - 5000 numbers per day each - speaking with between 300 - 500 customers a day

Let us make an example: In average a call gets answered after 3 times ringing. 3 times ringing is taking around 15 seconds. If we are dialing 3000 numbers then we can calculate the dialing time of 15 seconds * 3000 calls / 3600 = 12.5 hours for a 10 hours working day (Monday until Thursday).

The other way is you are using a dialer, which is already illegal in the USA. In this case you need to have a lot of money for the fine from the FTC. If you have millions of dollars why do you cry in this case about the VoIP minutes? It is nice from you that you are providing the dialer, because in this case you will get the punishment and not the center.

Take a look at http://news.wwpa.com/post/2015/04/30/ftc-and-ten-state-attorneys-general-take-action-against-political-survey-robocallers-pitching-cruise-line-vacations-to-the-bahamas. The responsible companies got punished with fines over 5 millions of dollars. Why are you crying about VoIP minutes and hourly rates for the agents if you have so much money in your wallet?

In any case your system is dialing and that need to be done on your own bill and not on the bill of the center. The center has no influence on this dial behavior.

 

What is your pay schedule?
The week starts on Friday and ends on Thursday - You will be paid the next day (Friday) - You will be paid via PayPal.

Is it possible to send payment to our international merchant account?
No, only if it is attached to your PayPal Account.

Calling Schedule
All times are based on EST. At present, we are open from 9am - 7pm EST Monday - Thursday, 9am - 5pm EST, Friday and 12pm - 5pm EST on Saturday.

53 hours of calling per week = 3180 minutes * 0.0079 = 25.122 $/week or in average 4.187 per day (6 days)

Training.
The scripts and training, we will provide them once the agreement is returned

Please go to tmicomm.com and watch the demo video.
I will personally do a live the training session with all your agents. The training will last approximately 1 1/2 hours. The training is divided into 4 sections 1) Background on the campaign 2) Dialer how it works – how to transfer 3) VAKA – How it works – how the system is laid out, what the recordings to use and when 4) listen to sample recordings of agents on their first days on the job. This will illustrate what the agents can expect and what not to do. It will get them past the learning curve quickly.

Your agents will then role play with each other - One will act as the customer, the other the agent. This will help get them familiarized with the system. Once you feel the agents are proficient, you will be free to start dialing.

Reports Disclosure
You will receive reports everyday showing exactly how many transfers were sent, how many of them where billable, all call durations and how much money is due.

You will also be granted admin access to the dialer reports. You will be able to live monitor your agent’s calls. Have access to all the recordings both, on the opening side and also on the closing side. In addition, you will be able to monitor your agent’s activity. You will know when they sign in, when they are on pause, how many calls they took and the result.

How long does it take to set up?
The set up process is very easy. Once we receive the agreement back, we will set you up in the system. Once that is complete, we will set up your VOIP account. You will then prepay your VOIP. Once set up you will change the audio settings on each agents work station. It will take a few minutes for each one. We will provide explicit directions that are easy to follow. In the event, you still need help our tech department will assist you. The whole process lasts about an hour.

this is http://tmicomm.com/main/?page_id=32
training which we will follow

mpavistechnologies.com shows with this offer that they have no idea from the call center business and from the rules of the FTC. They are only searching for someone, which is taking the risk for their campaigns. This one, which takes the risk has no possibility to influence and reduce the risk.

 

 

SCAM: Windows pop up calls - the best way to end up in jail

Not one company will call, email, or pop up on a web page saying you are infected with a virus

If software detects a virus or a malware or a virus then it will remove the suspicious files or put them in quarantine and block the access to it. That is the way virus and maleware scanners are working. There is no need to call someone and pay some extra money.

If you are buying such calls, then you are supporting the malware programmers with your payment. You are in this case the accomplice of the fraudster. As computer fraud is a crime, you’ll get prosecuted and can end up in jail.

Don’t forget that VoIP calls can get the same way traced like the money flow. Even if you are booking a “high risk payment gateway” you’ll get prosecuted, because before someone will go into jail instead of you he will tell to whom he has forwarded the money and give all his documentation to the investigating officers.

THERE IS NO WAY TO HIDE YOURSELF IN FRONT OF THE LAW!!!

For you are only this “Tech support calls” secure, where you get paid from your client and not where you get paid directly from the caller!!!

 

Windows Pop-Up calls source