Offshore Outsourcing & Scammer

Blog about offshore outsourcing and scammer in the outsourcing industry

Presumptive scammer Christine Wisner

Yesterday Willpower Infotech Limited contacted me over Skype and he told me that he got scammed from Christine Wisner. He is missing a payment of $15 000 and he cannot contact her. I have tried to contact her by Skype, her phone number +63-2-371 1478 and her fax number +63-2-371 1479. Both numbers are not in service and no reaction on her Skype.

A search at LinkedIn resulted in two profiles for Christine Wisner

Christine Wisner
Managing Director at West Wood Co.
NCR - National Capital Region, Philippines
Marketing and Advertising

Cristine Wisner
Marketing Head at Wildwood Co.
NCR - National Capital Region, Philippines

Aktuell: Westwood Co.

Education:
De La Salle Santiago Zobel School
Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA), Business Administration and Management, General
2005 – 2007

Education:
ABE International College of Business and Accountancy - Manila Branch
Master of Business Administration (M.B.A.), International Marketing
2006 – 2009

University of Waterloo - St. Paul's United College
Bachelor's degree, Business, Management, Marketing, and Related Support Services
2004 – 2006

Christine Wisner Cristine Wisner
ph.linkedin.com/pub/christine-wisner/97/79a/a80/en ph.linkedin.com/pub/cristine-wisner/80/b69/931/en

Both profiles get found in the attached pdf documents.

A search in the public phone directory about the company West Wood Pvt. Ltd. ended without any result. Even a reverse lookup has not given any result. A company, which is hidden, will not be able to make any business.

A Google search brought only a result of the Indian company West Wood Pvt Ltd, 15 Annamalai Nagar ,Thillai Nagar, Tiruchirappalli, Tamilnadu ( East ) - 620018, which is trading with Plywood, Veneers & Laminates business and has nothing to do with a marketing company.

Each company, which is trading with something and each marketing company, have at least a website and a registered domain. Companies, which are having a land line are normally listed in the public phone directory.

I recommend to everbody to make a background check about your business partner before starting making business. Carry all the facts together and decide about making business on the base of that information what you could get proved. Don't believe only to the words of a salesperson.

Keep copies of all emails, contracts, chats etc. In such a case you will be able to warn others. If you are getting scammed then take the relevant copies and warn others by listing the scammer in all the call center groups and forums. Inform about the scam as much people as possible.

Christine Wisner _ LinkedIn.pdf (842.1KB)

Christine Wisner _ LinkedIn 2.pdf (223.8KB)

Update: The story continues - Christine Wisner tries to save what can still be saved

 

Lexicon Technologies - Kavitha Kavi - a scammer, which cannot show her/his face

During a few weeks I commented each posting from Kavitha Kavi with a scammer warning. It seems to me that some people did not believe it and have been thinking that it is for a revenge or some other reason. Sorry, but I even don't know Kavitha Kavi and I have never made any business with Lexicon Technologies. 

Their advertisements have been already suspect:

  • Not one broker, which has real campaigns, need to advertise them every few hours.

  • Good campaigns are getting taken very fast from the centers.

  • Only scammer cannot show their face in public. They need to be afraid that they can get identified, listed and cannot be lazy any more. In such a case they need to do a real work if they like to survive. For real work they are too lazy.
    Real people and business owners are able to show their own face, because they don't cheat someone.

  • Only scammer are praising (liking) themselves. All others know that self praising is not a reputation.

  • Only scammer are using phrases like "Last Chance", "Limited Slots", "Limited Seats" and "HURRY". As they are lazy they are using the same advertising during a few months.
    Real and good business partners give you enough time for making a good deal.

  • Real business partners are interested in having a long term business relationship and promote their products.
    Scammer are only behind the money. You can identify them already by reading their advertisements - there is every time the money what you can earn the main topic, because they even don't know the product and are to lazy informing themselves. 

  

Remember: As more somebody is promoting (spamming)  as higher is the risk to get scammed.

 

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Some people are not reading the warnings from others. Their own greediness is driving them into making business in the hope to earn. I certainly do not feel sorry for the deceived - they were even warned by my comments. Everybody needs to make his own experiences.

An Austrian proverb says: It is cheaper to learn from the mistakes of others than from our own. But the will of man is his heaven

 

kavitha kavi _ LinkedIn.pdf (5.42 mb)

 

Call centers read the given scripts and conditions very carefully

As more closely I take a look in the offshore outsourcing business as more I come to the conclusion that either the offshore call center themselves should get deceived or it should help to cheat others.

I got the following email with attachments forwarded. For easier reading I have opened the documents and pasted their content into the email. The script shows how the customer is getting betrayed.

It is a game to make the called one afraid that he does not get his medication in the future. That is already a big fault in selling. That has nothing to do with a serious sale. It looks like the client has no chance to sell his products in a serious way to someone. For this purpose he need to use such criminal methods.

If you are looking at the from me read marked parts of the email, then you see that you get only paid if the lead is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies. All other medications are not getting paid.

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: diabetic LT
From: "Visionary Leads" <info@visionaryleads.com>
Date: 2/4/15 10:47 am
To: jorell@visionaryleads.com

OUTSOURCEDIABETIC SCRIPT.DOCX

Hi! Is (patient) available?

Hi (patient)! I'm calling from Health Source. I just want to let you know Mr./Mrs. (patient) that you may no longer be receiving your diabetic supplies in the mail and I just wanted to make sure that you will be getting your diabetes supplies on time.

Do you mind me asking the last time that you got your diabetic supplies in the mail?

Ok! I'm going to get you setup. I just have to verify some basic information.

-Verify the address:

Are you still located at _________?

Can I have you Date of Birth?

Also, can I have your primary health insurance?
(No Medicare Part B or Medicaid)
(Diabetics with Medicare accompanied with private insurance, Share private insurance with Pharma Rep)

Before I'm going to transfer you to the pharmacy specialist that's going to get you setup, I just want ask you if there are any issues with your health that I may be able to help with?

-(Site exaples-e.g. back pain, join pain, diabetic neuropathy etc.)

Because you are eligible to receive a new compounded pain cream at little to no cost to you. The pain cream is a much more effective option than normal medication.
Also, it will help get rid of any pain you may be having.

-Ask for the pain location (start with the most severely affected location)

Ok! Great. Just make sure you CLEARLY STATE that you are willing to switch suppliers to the pharmacy affiliate, so you can receive your mention supplies on time and on a regular basis. Just one second while I get the diabetic specialist on the line. She is going to verify your doctor and make sure you have the proper billing information for your insurance and then we will get that sent out for you immediately.

Please stay on the line okay?
----transfer call----
(WHEN TRANSFERRING A CALL ALWAYS PROVIDE THE DIABETIC’S PRIVATE INSURANCE TO PHARMA SPECIALIST)


DIABETIC LIVE TRANSFER GUIDELINES.DOCX
LIVE XFER DIRECTIONS:

It is important inform the patient they may need to switch suppliers. A Diabetic specialist will explain the detailed options after verifying Contact Info/ Insurance info / Dr. Info.
Specialists will accept introduction with either short or long form info.

  TO TRANSFER A CALL TO THE DIABETIC SPECIALIST: AGENT INTERFACE:
TRANSFER>Presets>MedCare Pharmacy>DIAL WITH CUSTOMER>LEAVE 3 WAY CALL

INTRODUCE THE PATIENT TO THE SPECIALIST AND LET THE AGENT KNOW WHICH PRODUCT THE PATIENT IS INTERESTED IN (EX: DIABETIC TESTING SUPPLIES, PAIN GEL, ETC).

IF YOU HAVE ASKED THE PATIENT FOR INSURANCE/DR INFO, THEN TELL THE SPECIALIST THE INFO YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY WITH THE PATIENT.
PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY AND LEAVE THE CONFERENCE QUIETLY.
ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE INTRODUCTION QUIETLY LEAVE THE CALL.
ANY NOISE DURING THE RECORDED ENROLLMENT PROCESS WILL VOID THE LEAD.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

HEALTH SOURCE

- Health Source represents Pharmacy affiliates. Our purpose is to supply quality Pharmacy services and products to the comfort and privacy of our patients homes at little or no cost to the patient.

- We are looking for patients who need diabetic testing supplies.

-We offer all meters/strips, medical supplies, Braces, and Compound Rx Medications shipped to the patients home on a regular basis at no cost to them.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agent Notes:

- Remember only transfer when the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy.

- When a patient asks a question that you do not know, simply transfer the call and inform the patient "a diabetic specialist will better answer your question, If you would like I can transfer you now……(xfer to Pharmacy)".

- Engage patients in conversation that will stimulate a positive rapport without wasting time. Be efficient with your time and know when to hangup. Many patients will speak on and on with no intention of enrolling in our service……. Reports, Graphs, and Call-Data Metrics reflect a positive correlation between top producing agents to agents with the longest call time averages.
On average, the best agents spend more time on on each call because they stay close to the script, establish a rapport, all while speaking clearly and slowly.
      Ex: Confirm a street
address/dob/PolicyInfo/doctor/etc, Ask about the weather, mention a personal experience, discuss your health concerns, etc.. NEVER let a patient control a conversation. Stick to the point and get back to your script as quickly as possible.

- Remember only transfer if the patient is interested in receiving Diabetic testing supplies by mail. This service is provided by our affiliate pharmacy located in sunny south Florida,

Sent from my iPhone

John Krawczyk
Visionary Leads
CMO
215-949-3636
www.visionaryleads.com
www.seomanagementconsultants.com
www.classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists)
www.diabeticdesk.com

I’ll suggest in this case making for your own security a recording of the transferred call. This is technical possible if your VoIP system is staying in the media path after the transfer. It uses a little bit more traffic but you have afterwards something what you can present to any fraud investing official.


The client is only paying per lead and it seems to be very hard to sell his products. Why else should he write already the fraud into the script?

 

If we take a look at the listed domains in the signature than we find out that:

  • seomanagementconsultants.com is registered at May 15, 2012, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • visionaryleads.com is registered at June 3, 2013, where the registrant, admin and tech contact is John Krawczyk
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) is a new domain, registered at September 30, 2014. This site is already registered to an address in India and has a corresponding bad reputation.
  • diabeticdesk.com is also a new domain, registered at November 23, 2014. This site is registered to an India address and has a very high risk.
  • classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) and diabeticdesk.com are hosted at a server, which have one more high risk site on it: ropemediahouse.com
  • Interesting is in any case that ropemediahous.com and classesanddegree.com (2016-02-25 Link removed - Domain already not exists) have the same owner, who does even not know what is a street and a house number:
    classesanddegree.com: Rope Media Pvt Ltd, Gurgaon, 122001 Haryana, India, +91.9818555403
    ropemediahouse.com: Rope Media Private Limited, Vasant Kunj, 110070 New Delhi, +91.01244306053

If we take a look at the website www.diabeticdesk.com then we know why only leads for diabetic measurement products are getting paid. There is no other product offered then diabetic measurements. Drugs are not offered. For this the necessary drugs will not get shipped. It would be better to get a campaign from or for a drugstore. In such a case the call center will not cheat some people.

 

The name John Krawczyk sounds and seems to be a Polish name. In combination with the facts above I remember an old Austrian proverb: “Come and visit Poland - Your car is already there.”

It seems for me that there is an organized fraud happening. It can be possible too, that John Krawczyk is getting used from the scammer from India.

 

Registration information of the used Domains:

Domain Name: SEOMANAGEMENTCONSULTANTS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1720656451_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-16T10:52:36Z
Creation Date: 2012-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-15T22:00:03Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: (215) 609-0122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: (215) 543-5736
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: (215) 609-0122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: (215) 543-5736
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: FIRST CHOICE DEBT RELIEF
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: (215) 609-0122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: (215) 543-5736
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-05T21:00:00Z
Domain Name: VISIONARYLEADS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1805955020_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-06-04 07:52:36
Creation Date: 2013-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-06-03 15:17:46
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: John Krawczyk
Registrant Organization: SEO
Registrant Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Registrant Street: suite 300
Registrant City: Trevose
Registrant State/Province: Pennsylvania
Registrant Postal Code: 19053
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 2156090122
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: John Krawczyk
Admin Organization: SEO
Admin Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Admin Street: suite 300
Admin City: Trevose
Admin State/Province: Pennsylvania
Admin Postal Code: 19053
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 2156090122
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: John Krawczyk
Tech Organization: SEO
Tech Street: 5 Neshaminy Interplex
Tech Street: suite 300
Tech City: Trevose
Tech State/Province: Pennsylvania
Tech Postal Code: 19053
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: 2156090122
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS71.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS72.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-07-31T19:00:00Z
Domain Name: CLASSESANDDEGREE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1878271185_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Creation Date: 2014-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-30T09:27:16Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Registrant Street: Gurgaon
Registrant City: Gurgaon
Registrant State/Province: Haryana
Registrant Postal Code: 122001
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9818555403
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Admin Street: Gurgaon
Admin City: Gurgaon
Admin State/Province: Haryana
Admin Postal Code: 122001
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9818555403
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Pvt Ltd
Tech Street: Gurgaon
Tech City: Gurgaon
Tech State/Province: Haryana
Tech Postal Code: 122001
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9818555403
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: DIABETICDESK.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1886767790_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-11-23T15:42:00Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited [link removed] Status: clientUpdateProhibited [link removed] Status: clientRenewProhibited [link removed] Status: clientDeleteProhibited [link removed] Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Registrant Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Registrant City: Lucknow
Registrant State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Registrant Postal Code: 226010
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.9161867901
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Admin Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Admin City: Lucknow
Admin State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Admin Postal Code: 226010
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.9161867901
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Organization: Magna Outsourcing
Tech Street: CP-31 1st Floor Sonka Galaxy Tower Gomti Nagar
Tech City: Lucknow
Tech State/Province: Uttar Pradesh
Tech Postal Code: 226010
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.9161867901
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2015-01-21T16:00:00Z
Domain Name: ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM this domain is only at the same Server.
Registry Domain ID: 1860052127_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Creation Date: 2014-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-24 12:58:24
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Rope Media
Registrant Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Registrant Street: Vasant Kunj
Registrant Street: Vasant Kun
Registrant City: New Delhi
Registrant State/Province: Delhi
Registrant Postal Code: 110070
Registrant Country: India
Registrant Phone: +91.01244306053
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Rope Media
Admin Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Admin Street: Vasant Kunj
Admin Street: Vasant Kun
Admin City: New Delhi
Admin State/Province: Delhi
Admin Postal Code: 110070
Admin Country: India
Admin Phone: +91.01244306053
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Rope Media
Tech Organization: Rope Media Private Limited
Tech Street: Vasant Kunj
Tech Street: Vasant Kun
Tech City: New Delhi
Tech State/Province: Delhi
Tech Postal Code: 110070
Tech Country: India
Tech Phone: +91.01244306053
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Name Server: NS1.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
Name Server: NS2.ROPEMEDIAHOUSE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: [link removed] update of WHOIS database: 2014-11-17T14:00:00Z

 

Diabetic Desk.pdf (324KB)

 

Another kind of identity theft - intuitcorp.co.uk - intuit.co.uk

In the case of an identity theft of a company the thief has the problem with his contact details. In such a case an offer from a company can get easily proofed by calling the phone number, which is written in the public phone register or at their official website.

A friend from LinkedIn has forwarded me the following message:

Hi Rudolf,

Please see below the company's profile Email which I received to initiate a business setup. Could you please validate this profile and let me know is it a genuine one or not.

HI,

Greetings for the day!!!

Thanks for your mail, I appreciate your interest. I would request you to send me your company profile so that I can forward it to my management for the initial screening and if it is short-listed we will get back to you and I will schedule a meeting online with my management and will take it further to the next level. For more details please visit www.intuitcorp.co.uk

If need any legal details, Please verify the details on the Federal UK government website of Companies house UK.

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk

Company Incorporation no.- 02679414
look forward to your reply. 

Regards
Samar Kanuajia
+44-750-975-7530 (Off.)
+44-793-746-7159 (Mob.)
Skype ID- samar.intuit-corp

The given website has been at this time 7 days old. The public registry UK Companies House has given the information that the company got founded January 21, 1992. The given office phone number in the LinkedIn message (+44-750-9757530) is a mobile phone number and not a fixed line. Such a phone number can get registered for free by using the FWCall service for free.

The phone number +44-750-9757530 is nowhere listed. Wether on the website or on any other register. Even the phonebook of BT did only list their official phone number.

There is no reason for such a company like intuit.co.uk to have a mobile phone number for their office and another mobile phone number for private use. Confusing has been that the domain intuitcorp.co.uk has been only 7 days old. Their main domain intuit.co.uk is already nearly 19 years old.

 

Fraud with Windows Pop Up calls - euroanswerllc com

A business is only good if the risk is low and the earnings are high. In the following offer is it a good business only for the SCAMMER. The center owner has even the risk to end up in jail while the scammer is hiding himself.

A friend forwarded me the following offer and asked me about my opinion:

Hello!
We outsource US Inbound Technical Support Campaign! from more than 3 years and complete genuine in terms of accounts & calls. We operate from Mumbai, India. We do not charge any Royalty, consulting fees & security deposit.
We keep transparency in our Business.

The following are the details of the process:-
Agents required: 10 or more
Technician: 1 or more
US Toll Free Number
Payment Gateway
Dialer
Lease line with minimum speed of 2 MBPS
Website (Optional)
Computer's with good configuration.(Windows 7 preferred)

Pricing for Windows, Pop u calls: (Prepaid System)
1. Price for 10-50 calls  - Rs. 850/- per call
2. Price for 51-100 calls - Rs. 800/- per call
3. Price for 101-200 calls - Rs. 750/- per call
4. Price for 201-350 calls - Rs. 700/- per call
Note: 30 paid test calls per day will be provided only for 3 days at start, 30 calls for 3 days.

The following are the details of the US Inbound Tech Support Campaign:-
1. Campaign will be running for minimum 10 calls only.
2. The payment for the campaign will be in advance. Minimum 48 working hours ago (Wire Transfer). No Credit is given on any grounds.
3. Calls will be received from US / Canada customers only.
4. Timings for the campaign to start are 10:00 pm to 5:00 am IST (Monday - Friday).
5. Call recording to be provided, if required.
6. Center should have a US / Canada Toll Free Number only.
7. Minimum 10 - 12 calls will be routed per slot.
8. Daily MIS report for the calls is to be shared at EOD compulsorily for verification. If not shared, the report provided from contractor will be final and undebatable..
9. If any issue or problem occurs, campaign will be paused and will be active once it is approved by the Contractor itself.
10. Any called missed or abandoned due to lack of technology or late communication will be counted as paid call to the client.
11. Calls Category – Webmail calls, Pop up calls, Antivirus calls, Tablet calls, PC running slow, MAC calls, Printer calls, Antivirus not downloading or running etc..
12. We are no where concerned whether the center makes sale's out of the Inbound calls or not.
As we provide the best calls and there is also some effort shown from the center to up-sell the customers.
13. No replacement for calls will be given on any grounds.

PS: No free or test calls provided. Only Serious Call Centers / BPO contact me and please don't waste mine as well as your time.

Thanks & Regards,
Mr. Priyesh Rao
Cell - +91 9820557973
Skype - priyesharao
Website - www.euroanswerllc.com
Reference Center in Begumpet, Hyderabad
How is the scam working? Let us take a closer look:
  • The center has to provide a payment gateway. That means the center is billing to the customer directly. Each credit card payment can get rejected after the credit card holder receives his monthly statement. So the center has the risk for the transaction.

  • The center has to provide Toll Free numbers for US and/or Canada. That means the call center is paying for the incoming calls and the phone number is registered to the centers. A hidden registration is not possible for phone numbers. In the case of a fraud the owner of the phone number is responsible.

  • How the Toll Free number, which is previous not known, arrives in the Pop Up that the customer can call it?
    The legal way is to show a number on a website or in advertisements. In all other cases it will come from only from a malware. Remember, the number is not known previous.
    It need to be only a toll free number because the customer shall call it instead of consulting a friend or a computer repair center located near to his place.
    For all other purposes like a call by using a software on a computer, tablet or smartphone you even don't need a phone number. Such calls can get routed directly over the Internet.

  • The center has to pay for the Pop Up calls, This is the way how the scammer is making his money.

  • The owner of the domain euroanswerllc.com are hiding themselves behind a proxy service at the domain registry

If we put now the facts together, then we see that the center is not working for a client. In this case the center acts as a reseller because the center need to buy the calls and makes the billing with the caller directly. The center is responsible in front of law for the product. The center cannot hide themselves in anonymity like the SCAMMER do, because the center is taking the money and the phone number is registered to the center. If one customer goes in front of the law court than the center owner will end up in jail. He has make the fraud and not the real scammer

In any case the center owner has a high risk to end up in front of the court, because Ignorance is no protection against prosecution.

Domain Name: EUROANSWERLLC.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1866035335_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: [link removed] Date: 2014-07-08T17:35:08Z
Creation Date: 2014-07-08T17:35:08Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-07-08T17:35:08Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
Reseller: Google Inc.
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Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
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Admin City: Scottsdale
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Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
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Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
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